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Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 AT&T version....

E ..... I'm not sure if anyone else gave any thought to this, but ever since AT&T officially announced they'd be carrying the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, I was wondering if the internals (processor) would be different? A good example would be how the original Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 Wi-Fi version came equipped with a 1ghz Tegra 2 chip, yet when AT&T picked it up, they went with a 1.5ghz S3 chip (with LTE support of course). As someone who played with both models thoroughly, the 1.5ghz AT&T variant did make for a noticeably smoother experience compared to its Tegra 2 counterpart - Both devices completely stock I must add.
So back to the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, although it has been officially picked up by AT&T, news sources have been very vague on the specs of this particular model. If history provides any clues as what to expect, hopefully the AT&T SGT 2 10.1 will have a 1.5ghz S4 chip which seems to be doing a great job at powering all the other devices its incorporated in.
My ultimate question is has anyone seen or heard anything in regards to this or any other possible changes for the AT&T model???

[Q] Differences between models

Please can anyone tell me what is the difference between the Galaxy Tab models 3100, 3110 3113?

Brianrh said:
Please can anyone tell me what is the difference between the Galaxy Tab models 3100, 3110 3113?
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P3100 has gsm, p3110 and 3113 are wifi only, p3113 has IR and 3110 does not

basically get the p3113. I have it as it was the only model available anyway at bestbuy. the p3100 you can make calls on it while the other 2 are mostly to access the internet. you can also download Skype if you need to make a call for emergencies.
I use my rezound to provide 4g wifi to my tablet. cool thing about the p3113 is that you can change the tv chanel that's one of the uses for the IR. I used it to amuse myself at the expense of my gf for about 2 days.
the p3113 is also 1/2 the price of the p3100 and it doesnt require a monthly plant.
anyway it all depends what you want to do with your tablet.

Thanks for the info guys.
My family are buying me one for Christmas so all I know is that it was bought from the Carphone Warehouse here in the UK. I guess from the details above that it will probably be a 3110.

Brianrh said:
Thanks for the info guys.
My family are buying me one for Christmas so all I know is that it was bought from the Carphone Warehouse here in the UK. I guess from the details above that it will probably be a 3110.
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Correct. P3113 is only sold in the US.

acefsw said:
P3100 has gsm, p3110 and 3113 are wifi only, p3113 has IR and 3110 does not
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Awesome! Concrete, concise answer! Ten points to Gryffindor! (?)
No, really, this should be in a sticky Thanks!

acefsw said:
P3100 has gsm, p3110 and 3113 are wifi only, p3113 has IR and 3110 does not
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I know this is a bit obvious but it needs to be said I guess for the 10.1 users the guide to the 7 inch models would be the exact same for the10.1 inch models - The 5100 has 3g, 5110 solely wifi (which I use) and the 5113 american wifi model!
I know this was an obvious statement but am sure it was only a matter of time before someone WOULD ask! :cyclops:

jaggythistle said:
I know this is a bit obvious but it needs to be said I guess for the 10.1 users the guide to the 7 inch models would be the exact same for the10.1 inch models - The 5100 has 3g, 5110 solely wifi (which I use) and the 5113 american wifi model!
I know this was an obvious statement but am sure it was only a matter of time before someone WOULD ask! :cyclops:
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Yup like with virtually EVERYTHING Samsung makes you have an International version (x110) and a US version (x113), and these also have a 3G version (x100) with x being 3 for the 7" version and 5 for the 10.1" version, with the core difference being the US models get an IR blaster.
But then there is also a Verizon 4G version that uses a completely different model number string (SCH-I705).

This maybe so but on the back of the UK one it says 3113
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daniel644 said:
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But then there is also a Verizon 4G version that uses a completely different model number string (SCH-I705).
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So will a ROM designed for the 5100 series work on a Verizon tab 2 or will you lose functionality? I've been searching various forums and haven't found anything that specifically says it will or won't work for a Verizon tablet.
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From what I've read at this point it appears the VZW 10" Tab 2 isn't even rooted yet. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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I'd bet you'd lose mobile data, if not soft bricking the tab entirely...
If I were u, I'd wait until there's a ROM for the vzw tab... or if you're adventurous you could try one... but nandroid first!
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PieceKeepr said:
So will a ROM designed for the 5100 series work on a Verizon tab 2 or will you lose functionality? I've been searching various forums and haven't found anything that specifically says it will or won't work for a Verizon tablet.
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My understanding is that there may be hardware differences besides just the lte capability, and I don't think there is a stock firmware on sammobile to restore it with if things go south. I know there is a root for the 7 inch, (at&t maybe), but no roms and if you screw up the root process---particularly skipping cwm backup or failure of a backup---it's a brick. I would search the model number and read a lot before considering rooting.

PieceKeepr said:
So will a ROM designed for the 5100 series work on a Verizon tab 2 or will you lose functionality? I've been searching various forums and haven't found anything that specifically says it will or won't work for a Verizon tablet.
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From what I've noticed the x100 versions have separate ROMs due to it being 3g and no it blaster but the x110 and x113 have ROMs that work on both not sure if this will help its just my observations :good:

I'll hold off until I see something solid for the Tab 2 LTE. I can't afford to brick it.
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The variety of galaxy s3's

I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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deadlocked007 said:
Buy a nexus 4 and then you don't have to choose
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I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would buy a Nexus 4 if the Play Store wasn't sold out all the time
@OP, I personally have never used LTE, but I can't imagine that it's significantly faster in real-world usage than HSPA+. IMO, you should go for an international SGS3 (assuming they work on T-MO US) and live without that ridiculous carrier branding you Americans are used to .

Nickdroid86 said:
I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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You would need one specifically for T-Mobile's LTE network. If you want to buy a T-Mobile LTE-capable phone NOW, you should get the Note 2, which has an LTE chip/antenna inside that is disabled for now. Just like 3G frequencies differ across carriers, so do LTE frequencies. No existing LTE devices on other carriers will work on T-Mobile's LTE. I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.

Product F(RED) said:
I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I don't think so. That's crazy.

The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.

sy224048 said:
The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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You're wrong on all accounts:
1. The Nexus 4 has slight LTE capabilities on one or two bands, which are used by AT&T, and they're weak because there's no power amp for the antenna. It happens to be left over from the Optimus G because they share the same motherboard, but it was cheaper to leave it on then to make a totally separate assembly line. There is no T-Mobile LTE compatibility in the Nexus 4.
2. The Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. T-Mobile themselves said that they're releasing a new version of the Galaxy S3 with LTE for their network. The Note 2 HOWEVER, has been proven to have an LTE chip hidden inside.
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.

Product F(RED) said:
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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klin1344 said:
Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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I never said it was worse. I just said it's not faster. Also to add on yo what you said, the S4 has better battery efficiency. It really depends on what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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P.s. I find a nexus 4 8gb, brand new on Craigslist, but I have to pay $49 to sign on to solavei wireless (uses T-Mobile) should I just get that, pay the month they make me pay up front, then just switch in a T-Mobile card? Solavei is prepaid, so I'm not worried about black listing.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Like said MOST OF THEM WILL NOT. Google first, ask later. The s3's from other networks will not work with the 4g/hspa network because they do not have the antenna for the aws spectrum we use.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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No. Only the T-Mobile one will work because it's the only one that supports 1700 MHz (AWS). Most international phones don't support 1700 MHz (T-Mobile is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz), but will work on AT&T's bands (850/1900 MHz). However T-Mobile has been very slowly moving over to the same bands as AT&T, so soon you'll be able to use any AT&T compatible phone on T-Mobile.

I'm probably best off buying the nexus 4
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos and plus exynos is good in data rendering and executing. Plus encrypting your work is really fast on exynos even better than intel processors.
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qazibasit said:
I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.

zelendel said:
See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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Yeah, I have the i9300 and that's the only thing that erks me. We have the more powerful phone, we can modify Samsung ROMs, but we pretty much have (actually stable) nightlies for AOSP/AOKP based ROMs. I would have gone with a US carrier S3 if it wasn't for the S4 Dual. I game heavily (GTA 3/VC, Dead Trigger, NFS:MW, MC4, etc), so I rely on the fastest processor out there. The S4 Dual is capable as a CPU, but the Adreno GPU that comes with it is meh. The 2GB of RAM is just futureproofing and doesn't affect performance. If the US S3's had the S4 Pro (Quad), I'd have bought one. The Note 2 seems enticing but I think it's too big for me.

{Discussion} Torn between a HDC s4 or a moto G

My galaxy nexus radio problems and sprints terrible service in my area have made me decide that I need a change. I am looking to move to an AT&T prepaid service. My price limit is $200. I would like to have a phone that has removable batteries which the cloned s4 has. I like the size and design of the s4 better than the 4.5" moto g. The factors that are holding me back from the s4 is the lack of reviews on it. If its reliable stock or rooted, I would probably go with that. The reason the Moto G is in the running is that it will be at my door in 2 days and I know if I have any issues, I can call motorola as opposed to trying to deal with some chinese seller. The lack of reviews for the cloned s4 have me up in the air. There are threads here for the S4 but no real reviews. Can any owners comment on how they like using/owning the device?
THanks!!

I don't own it yet but i don't think you will be able to use 3g on att because of the frequency bands. You should check yourself but I think t mobile 3g will work.
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What - no phone model!?

Is it true that there isnt a phone model of Notepro 12.2 - only wifi-only and 4G/lte but no a model that is capable to GSM calls too?
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There is a phone call feature in both 3g SM-901 and in the 4G LTE SM-905 and simply if you wouldn't be able to make GSM calls then why would they include phone dialer
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That is good news! I asked about this from a retailer and they said that 4G is only a tablet. Im considering to upgrade my N8000 and the GSM phone calls is a must have feature.
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I wish I waited for a LTE Model but I do like my Wifi Note

enigma_x said:
That is good news! I asked about this from a retailer and they said that 4G is only a tablet. Im considering to upgrade my N8000 and the GSM phone calls is a must have feature.
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Samsung always include a phone dialer in their tablets and thats pretty helpful for some prople who don't want to carry a tablet and a phone etc
FateZero said:
I wish I waited for a LTE Model but I do like my Wifi Note
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lol if i were you i also wouldn't have waited bc of the excitement haha but one good thing about the wifi version is they are always first to get root and rom

MONSTERELLEVEN said:
Samsung always include a phone dialer in their tablets and thats pretty helpful for some prople who don't want to carry a tablet and a phone etc
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It was a main reason for me to buy N8000 at the first place (tablet, phone, pen). I didnt like the idea carrying a tablet and the phone with me, so N8000 was the answer. And now when I have also Sony Smartwatch 2, I live in a heaven =) I cant go back in time and have a phone and a separate tablet. No way! So I was abit disappointed when I didnt see specs about GSM network and the retailer said that NotePro (both wifi and 4G) is only a tablet, not a phone like my N8000. So probably they dont know real specs or they just have two models without a GSM networking ability.
Those models are:
Wifi+4G: SM-P9050ZWANEE
Wifi only: SM-P9000ZWANEE
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enigma_x said:
It was a main reason for me to buy N8000 at the first place (tablet, phone, pen). I didnt like the idea carrying a tablet and the phone with me, so N8000 was the answer. And now when I have also Sony Smartwatch 2, I live in a heaven =) I cant go back in time and have a phone and a separate tablet. No way! So I was abit disappointed when I didnt see specs about GSM network and the retailer said that NotePro (both wifi and 4G) is only a tablet, not a phone like my N8000. So probably they dont know real specs or they just have two models without a GSM networking ability.
Those models are:
Wifi+4G: SM-P9050ZWANEE
Wifi only: SM-P9000ZWANEE
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I definitely know what you mean and I also think the same as I want my tablet to include a dialer etc . you even could notice the dialer on the tablet package itself on both 3G and 4G LTE models. I will try to give you a link to YouTube video while the guy tried the dialer on the 3G model .
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I spent most of last year using an imported Galaxy tab 7.7 with 3G and could make calls that thing was great. I am sorry I sold it.

enigma_x said:
It was a main reason for me to buy N8000 at the first place (tablet, phone, pen). I didnt like the idea carrying a tablet and the phone with me, so N8000 was the answer. And now when I have also Sony Smartwatch 2, I live in a heaven =) I cant go back in time and have a phone and a separate tablet. No way! So I was abit disappointed when I didnt see specs about GSM network and the retailer said that NotePro (both wifi and 4G) is only a tablet, not a phone like my N8000. So probably they dont know real specs or they just have two models without a GSM networking ability.
Those models are:
Wifi+4G: SM-P9050ZWANEE
Wifi only: SM-P9000ZWANEE
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Google translate much? Lol.. kidding...... kinda
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What translation?
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i got the galaxy note pro 3G P901
comes with dialer phone -

ssaass said:
i got the galaxy note pro 3G P901
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Congratulations mate how much you paid for it and what about call quality ?
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Cost 780$ us
From my friend
Comes with nothing
gust charger and white box

Quite cheap. Wifi only costs 950 euros here (1300 us dollars), 4G is more. I havent found (yet) 3G model here... I wonder why those are always so expensive here and usually are also with lowest memory available. Like my N8000, it was sold only as a 16gb mem.
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