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[Q] samsung galaxy s 4g VS Vibrant

I currently have samsung vibrant ,its battery drains too fast ,might be some problem with it
I have the option of replacing it with another vibrant or samsung galaxy s 4g
which one is better ?
I have heard that samsung galaxy s 4g has only 512 MB internal while the vibrant has 16GB
is that too little to the way that makes it defective or to impede downloading apps on it (since most of the apps should be downloaded on the internal memory )?if so is there any solution for that other than rooting the device ?
I love the idea of having a front facing camera and a better battery life which feels like an upgrade
but im concerned about that memory issue .are you guys happy with this phone ?I need to decide today

Don't think I have ever heard of anybody really running out of app space. With the fota fix and links2sd app you should have zero issues with internal memory.
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Exodian said:
Don't think I have ever heard of anybody really running out of app space. With the fota fix and links2sd app you should have zero issues with internal memory.
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what does the fota fix do ?
I tried the links2d ,it wont move all the applications ,there will be many applications which can't be moved like the yahoo mail.weather app,facebook,etc

Are you planning to root the phone? Fota fix is where you overwrite the firmware over the air (fota) files. These files eat up about 150 MB of internal storage. Links2sd should be able to move all non system apps to
The SD card as long as your phonevis set up right. All this depends on rooting though.
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Exodian said:
Are you planning to root the phone? Fota fix is where you overwrite the firmware over the air (fota) files. These files eat up about 150 MB of internal storage. Links2sd should be able to move all non system apps to
The SD card as long as your phonevis set up right. All this depends on rooting though.
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I know less about rooting ,and dont know how to root
-but if i did,will I prevent my phone from receiving OTA update or to update the os to android gingerboard when it's available ?
-also will that void the warranty on the phone from tmobile ?

about 150 MB of internal storage. Links2sd should be able to move all non system apps to
The SD card as long as your phonevis set up right. All this depends on rooting though.
how to make phonevis set up right ?

and also how to gain a root access ?that what link2sd asked for to move apps

and also how to gain a root access ?that what link2sd asked for to move apps

Rooting voids warrenty. Rooting a stock phone is very simple. You can update to an officially released gingerbread by using kies. No need for ota updates. Even going pure stock I think I would go with the sgs4g. Using apps2sd will ease the burden of apps on the internal memory. Not all apps can be moved that way but you shouldn't need to move them all.
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I just moved my wife from her broken Vibrant to a GS4G too and it was fine. I didn't put any rom on it or even root it this time. She has a 16GB external SD card that I moved over but nothing else. She has loaded her apps back up and so far has not seen any problems with memory. She uses her phone pretty heavily and I think she would have seen problems by now. It is a snappy phone and seems to do a little better on battery for her too. If I wasn't thinking about getting the Galaxy Nexus next month I think my phone would have mysteriously become broken and needed to be replaced too!

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[Q] How to use APP2SD in asus

hi there...
i am newbie here i want to ask to you, i have an asus slider but i think it has same system with transformer, but it cannot use app2sd, when i click the on sd card tab, it says "The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device"
i don't know how to repair it... please tell me if you know how to make it normal
thanks

Honeycomb doesn't support moving apps to the external sd card. LINK2SD however does allow a symbolic link to apps on an external card, which does look like you moved the app to external. The issue is that if you partition your sd card, you will probably have to reboot to see the second partition. I'm not sure, but you might have yo be rooted to use LINK2SD.

You cold try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21142499

Why would you want to use app2sd?
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App2sd
Wouldn't you want to use app2sd because you are running out of space on your internal card and you want to install more apps?

With most of the 16/32 GB available for apps i don't see a need.

i have to highly disagree i outgrew the 32 gb the day i got it ( to the op search there are scripts and such to do what you want its not just install and go and you need to be rooted i believe to do it).
if i install all the apps and games i use on a daily basis i would need 2 tf101's 32gb and the other stuff i use occasionally still would need a external hard drive to store extra stuff on to install when i needed it. and its always made me laugh when this gets ansewered like "theres 16 or 32 gb on the tf101 you dont need apps2sd on a tablet with honeycomb" or anything to that effect. especially considering the games today steadily climbing in size i have seen em with well over a gb installed for one game, and im sorry i dnt digg having to uninstall and install something just to play a different game.
for alot of people it may be plenty but i think people might want to refrain from assuming everyones needs are similar to yours. i and many others do need apps2sd or something similar and i couldnt do without it.

^^^Yeah I see your point.

neofreek01 said:
i have to highly disagree i outgrew the 32 gb the day i got it ( to the op search there are scripts and such to do what you want its not just install and go and you need to be rooted i believe to do it).
if i install all the apps and games i use on a daily basis i would need 2 tf101's 32gb and the other stuff i use occasionally still would need a external hard drive to store extra stuff on to install when i needed it. and its always made me laugh when this gets ansewered like "theres 16 or 32 gb on the tf101 you dont need apps2sd on a tablet with honeycomb" or anything to that effect. especially considering the games today steadily climbing in size i have seen em with well over a gb installed for one game, and im sorry i dnt digg having to uninstall and install something just to play a different game.
for alot of people it may be plenty but i think people might want to refrain from assuming everyones needs are similar to yours. i and many others do need apps2sd or something similar and i couldnt do without it.
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neofreek01 said:
i have to highly disagree i outgrew the 32 gb the day i got it ( to the op search there are scripts and such to do what you want its not just install and go and you need to be rooted i believe to do it).
if i install all the apps and games i use on a daily basis i would need 2 tf101's 32gb and the other stuff i use occasionally still would need a external hard drive to store extra stuff on to install when i needed it. and its always made me laugh when this gets ansewered like "theres 16 or 32 gb on the tf101 you dont need apps2sd on a tablet with honeycomb" or anything to that effect. especially considering the games today steadily climbing in size i have seen em with well over a gb installed for one game, and im sorry i dnt digg having to uninstall and install something just to play a different game.
for alot of people it may be plenty but i think people might want to refrain from assuming everyones needs are similar to yours. i and many others do need apps2sd or something similar and i couldnt do without it.
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So, how many apps and games is that? Also...since you use them all on a daily basis...but need two 32GB devices, how do you do it?

SiNJiN76 said:
So, how many apps and games is that? Also...since you use them all on a daily basis...but need two 32GB devices, how do you do it?
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im not sure i understand your question. i dnt use 2 different 32gb devices,basically just an example of the space requirements i would need.
32gb just isnt enough, and yeah its a bunch of apps i have 200+ apps backed up on titaniumbackup. i use my tf101as a tool as well as a toy and i guess pullin double duty requires some storage space

Need moaaar space too. :/
It's actually not too hard to run out of space while a lot of games nowadays take up to 3GB... Take some Music and some Movies to that and tada...
Also I'm using a lot of emulators and the Roms take theire space too. TF101 + Ps3 Controller + HDMI = FUN everywhere!
(Please don't start to tell people what to put on theire tablet and what not now. You are welcome NOT to use your tablets full potential!)
Anyway... any solutions? Got TF101 4.0.3 Revolver. Android Assistant says: "There are no apps to move blabla". I'm kinda sure there was a time, when I was able to move them. If I remember right, there actually was a "move to SD" button in the native Apps-Menu of Android.

I'm pretty sure that the only solution is to use link2sd along with the DirectoryBind app. You move the apps with link2sd and those huge 3G data files with DirectoryBind.
I have a 64G microSD installed and with both of those apps in use quite a bit of free internal space now.
Warning: As of Android 4.2+ DirectoryBind no longer works because of the file system changes to support multiple users. Just in case you're running a custom ROM.
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Thanks for the info!

HTC Chacha-One of the worst phone i had ever seen

Dear All Developers
I m using mobile since last 11 years,i had never seen worst phone like htc chacha.
Very bad battery Backup
Camera is not much impressive as 5 mp
internal memory is very low-can play games & download more application even u root ur mobile..
WCDMA/3G is not working for me
Screen is to small for touch
Before HTC CHACHA i was using Galaxy pro,that was really good
My mobile usage is very high,I m Requesting to everybody to please help to unroot this mobile & guide me that how to lock the boot loader again so i can get some help from htc,they will not listen me becoz i had rooted & unlock the bootloader from HTC DEV...Also need stock rom so i can get back to original setting & all stock applications...
Please help Me ASAP

We are all aware of these so-called "problems" with the Chacha, and plenty of reviews state the same. I bought mine after making an informed decision, after reading as many reviews as I could find.
We all know that if you are a heavy user the battery life will be awful.
We all know the internal memory is very low (unless you use a custom rom and a2sd).
We all know the screen is slightly too small for regular touchscreen use, and most of us bought it for the hardware keyboard.
The camera (in my opinion) is the same quality as my HTC Desire, if not a bit better.
3G not working is likely a signal issue in the areas you use it.
You cannot re-add the warranty by re-flashing a stock ROM as there is a secure warranty flag in the software which is changed when the bootloader is unlocked and cannot be readded.
You could have found all of the issues you give without rooting the device and voiding your warranty. I don't think HTC would be able to fix your "problems" even if it was still under warranty.
I'm not trolling here, just being realistic.

munishjoshi said:
Dear All Developers
I m using mobile since last 11 years,i had never seen worst phone like htc chacha.
Very bad battery Backup
Camera is not much impressive as 5 mp
internal memory is very low-can play games & download more application even u root ur mobile..
WCDMA/3G is not working for me
Screen is to small for touch
Before HTC CHACHA i was using Galaxy pro,that was really good
My mobile usage is very high,I m Requesting to everybody to please help to unroot this mobile & guide me that how to lock the boot loader again so i can get some help from htc,they will not listen me becoz i had rooted & unlock the bootloader from HTC DEV...Also need stock rom so i can get back to original setting & all stock applications...
Please help Me ASAP
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hey
Battery is roughly equal to or better than the majority of android phones i have previously owned
Camera is ok for a budget phone - 5mp and a flash is rare on phones of this price range! (and much appreciated)
The internal memory is low but there are various threads on this site explaining how you can improve this (including a factory reset)
if 3G is not working it would be an issue with custom rom you installed - (common fault on some custom roms) which is a risk you should be aware that you run.
as for the phone I agree with the previous poster where I personally got this phone due to the qwerty keyboard and android mix - for its price its a great handset

r2b2 said:
We are all aware of these so-called "problems" with the Chacha, and plenty of reviews state the same. I bought mine after making an informed decision, after reading as many reviews as I could find.
We all know that if you are a heavy user the battery life will be awful.
We all know the internal memory is very low (unless you use a custom rom and a2sd).
We all know the screen is slightly too small for regular touchscreen use, and most of us bought it for the hardware keyboard.
The camera (in my opinion) is the same quality as my HTC Desire, if not a bit better.
3G not working is likely a signal issue in the areas you use it.
You cannot re-add the warranty by re-flashing a stock ROM as there is a secure warranty flag in the software which is changed when the bootloader is unlocked and cannot be readded.
You could have found all of the issues you give without rooting the device and voiding your warranty. I don't think HTC would be able to fix your "problems" even if it was still under warranty.
I'm not trolling here, just being realistic.
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since 2011 feb till 4 days ago, i owned an HTC desire. - The pictures taken with it was awsome. And the battery last me 1,5 day.
Since 4 days ago, my usage for mobile wasn't changed. Only the phone. Now I have an HTC cha cha.
The battery is ok for 12 hours. After that.. is dead.
And the pictures.. noisy and unfocused sometime. if you upload some of your chacha pictures, I will do the same. ..
maybe some of us are unlucky and got some lemon camera batch.
what do you say?

Thanks Everyone for Replying the Post
I had Delete some stock application also but the memory is still at 70 mb after install some application....we can never play games on this coz for playing games u can have gud internal memory..i had rooted also & install link2sd & app2sd enabler but there not the worth....
crap phone...i think i should sale it & but another one....
SORRY HTC

munishjoshi said:
I had Delete some stock application also but the memory is still at 70 mb after install some application....we can never play games on this coz for playing games u can have gud internal memory..i had rooted also & install link2sd & app2sd enabler but there not the worth....
crap phone...i think i should sale it & but another one....
SORRY HTC
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If you delete stock apps you will NOT get free memory. You will get some reserved system memory freed up. Which you cannot use, unless you want to integrate application updates into your ROM using Titanium.
@GxG - airsoft much, eh?
'ssup man, it's me

thanks alex..u r right i get the same sapce after deete those application..i wan get back to stock rom as i discussed with with you on ms...i have the rom files,please suggest how to flash to get back to stock rom with all application..i have the backup of all the files i had deleted but m unable to install them again.i had taken backup using root uninstaller...please alex i really need ur help to get orignal stock rom o my mobile..i had done factory reset but dnt get stock rom & deleted applications....
thanks in advance

The bad battery and low memory are fixable to some extent... Can't comment on the camera since I don't use it. And the screen size is the sacrifice you make for the QWERTY keypad in a candybar form.
My girlfriend has no complaints after we found the work arounds for the battery life. But then again, she is not a heavy user. She uses her phone for reading ebooks and music aside from the usual text and call.
There are ways to fix some of your issues. But if the hardware issues are dealbreakers for you, then get a phone with a bigger screen and bigger battery capacity. The chacha is decent for it's price. Wouldn't say that it is super amazing though...

munishjoshi said:
Dear All Developers
Very bad battery Backup
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Battery is not the best - but still not the worst. For me it's fine with 1 1/2 days.
Camera is not much impressive as 5 mp
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I didn't notice anything bed with the camera. Only problem is: when it gets dark, pictures get red.
internal memory is very low-can play games & download more application even u root ur mobile..
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That's the only real problem, yes.
WCDMA/3G is not working for me
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No problems here (GSM/UMTS), reception of both WiFi and network seems to be very good.
Screen is to small for touch
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Well, if you need big screens then why did you go for a Chacha? For me the screen is fine.

I completely agree with Flexmaen.
My biggest problem was the internal memory and the battery. After rooting, buying a new battery and using Juice Defender, my problems have subsided. I'm liking the Status way more than my previous phone (BlackBerry).

hi all,
i gonna to buy CHACHA and i see it is very good
bbut i see problem with moving to SD but i see on HTC website and as i know on android 2.3 we can easliy move apps to SD
htc.com/help/www/howto_iframe.aspx?id=73282&type=1&p_id=394
Moving applications to or from the storage card
Move downloaded applications to the storage card if the internal storage on HTC ChaCha is getting low. Or, if your storage card is getting full, you can also move applications from the storage card to the internal storage.
Note: You can only move applications that are not preinstalled on HTC ChaCha.
From the Home screen, press , and then tap Settings.
Tap Applications > Manage applications.
On the Downloaded tab, tap the application you want to move.
Choose whether to move the application to the storage card or to HTC ChaCha.
is this wrong
and about battery is there i buy another original battery is it will be good ?
thnx

m_wafek said:
hi all,
as i know on android 2.3 we can easliy move apps to SD
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Yes, but they still will leave some data on the internal storage. So when I installed about 70 Apps my internal memory was full and not much that can be done than.
and about battery is there i buy another original battery is it will be good ?
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If you battery was that bad I'd change it on guarantee.
You can try to improve battery life by using CPU tuner (needs root) or Juice Defender or just turn off data transfer manually.

Thanks Everyone for Replying the Post
Totally agree with all of u guys that but still we need to think that if we r spending money on any android phone for using email & social networking or playing games on this....if company have launch this phone with lots of feature then they should also place a good battery to use these feature...i dnt like this mobile just becoz of two reason-battery & internal memory...

Flexmaen said:
Yes, but they still will leave some data on the internal storage. So when I installed about 70 Apps my internal memory was full and not much that can be done than.
If you battery was that bad I'd change it on guarantee.
You can try to improve battery life by using CPU tuner (needs root) or Juice Defender or just turn off data transfer manually.
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lot of thnx

munishjoshi is a loser!
1 - scumbag steve, buys phone before asking
2- scumabg steve, hidding ads for samsung!!

m not a looser buddy
i had just given my point of view..if u like this phone then it doesn't means that u r a winner or i m looser..this is open forum..everybody can give their feedback..if somebody spend money on any gadget then they should have some expectation from that....
Hope u don't mind buddy.....
Enjoy HTC CHACHA
stayfidz said:
munishjoshi is a loser!
1 - scumbag steve, buys phone before asking
2- scumabg steve, hidding ads for samsung!!
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munishjoshi said:
Dear All Developers
I m using mobile since last 11 years,i had never seen worst phone like htc chacha.
Very bad battery Backup
Camera is not much impressive as 5 mp
internal memory is very low-can play games & download more application even u root ur mobile..
WCDMA/3G is not working for me
Screen is to small for touch
Before HTC CHACHA i was using Galaxy pro,that was really good
My mobile usage is very high,I m Requesting to everybody to please help to unroot this mobile & guide me that how to lock the boot loader again so i can get some help from htc,they will not listen me becoz i had rooted & unlock the bootloader from HTC DEV...Also need stock rom so i can get back to original setting & all stock applications...
Please help Me ASAP
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With a beginning like "Dear all developers" and an ending like "Please help Me ASAP" you sound like we made the phone
Look, the point is we all know about these problems. I'm using the phone since October and I know that a lot of the problems you have stated have been discussed in the general thread like 5 times each. You should have checked first before buying the phone.
Let this be a warning to everyone, learn to search and research.
For example, a few statistics from our forum:
General section:
Threads: 336
Posts: 2,686
Dev section:
Threads: 103
Posts: 2,649
Do you really think that no one ever stated that the battery is poor in at least one of the above threads/posts? I can pin-point two threads discussing about how bad the battery is and what replacements you can buy on ebay for example.

As the guys have said the solution to a usable android phone with great keyboard is within your grasp!
I use osr
Have the cpu tweaked using the settings in that rom. Have ext on the sd card so currently over 100mb free on the phone.
Green Power for good measure.
Much much better than when it came out of the box now!
sent usin' tapatalk innit.

the battery issue is not only for HTC phone but to almost all android phone with similar capacity. it's depend on how u using the phone. since you are a heavy mobile user, in the first place you shouldn't have choose this phone... i'm been using android, ios, winmo except bb phone. the battery life mostly depend on how u use it.

Phone finally fast

Hey Guys,
I finally got my phone to work at a decent speed. Here are the things I did:
1. Used Apps2SD to move the apps from internal storage to SD Card. Wondering why this helped? As far as I understand the apps are run in RAM and internal storage is used for storing data and apks etc. RAM is freed up by Android as and when needed but freeing up internal storage doesn't give android more RAM.
2. Use Autorun Manager to prevent some apps from starting up and remaining in memory. Now this I understand because this gives more RAM to android and avoids unnecessary swapping when applications are started up.
3. Used 'SD Booster' to increase sd cache size to 8192Kb. This gave some initial benefits but later on it became very slow as usual.
Bottom line is I am still puzzled by Android memory and SD card management. I am pretty sure though process swapping in and out of memory is what caused my phone to slow down. My Samsung Droid Charge is supposed to have 512MB of RAM but most memory managers show only 374MB and 2 GB of internal storage and most tools show only 1.2GB. Why would this be? Am I missing something or should I use a different tool to analyze my memory.

Not sure about RAM but usually when u buy a hard drive the bigger the hard drive the lower the actual number of gigs. Maybe it is actually 1.2GB
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1. This one must be a placebo effect because if anything moving apps to sd card will make the phone slower. Our internal memory has way higher i/o speeds (especially on ext4) than the measly class 2 sd.
2. This is usually not a good idea. The processes you "block" will actually still run but they will be insta-killed. They will keep trying to start up and will drain the battery.
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JihadSquad said:
1. This one must be a placebo effect because if anything moving apps to sd card will make the phone slower. Our internal memory has way higher i/o speeds (especially on ext4) than the measly class 2 sd.
2. This is usually not a good idea. The processes you "block" will actually still run but they will be insta-killed. They will keep trying to start up and will drain the battery.
Sent from my handheld computer using electromagnetic radiation.
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Thats what I thought. Im no guru, but out of all the reading Ive done, they have all said that moving apps from the sdcard to internal speeds up things.
Im looking at ways to speed up my wife's droid charge. Shes been complaining about it and finally gave me the go on rooting and maybee ROMing. I would like to stick to stock if possible so she wont run into any problems but if I have to I will install a custom rom. Any links?

Nope this is no placebo effect. The phone has become very fast. There are several posts that say that moving the apps to sd card speeds up the phone. In fact of all the things this is what sped up my phone the most. Why else would app2sd be so popular? Read #4 on http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/b...lean-up-and-speed-up-your-android-smartphone/ .
To further speed up my phone I am trying to overclock. My phone is stable at 1.2GHz but at 1.3 GHz it reboots after some time. To make it stable at 1.3GHz should I increase the voltage at that frequency?

salilsurendran said:
Nope this is no placebo effect. The phone has become very fast. There are several posts that say that moving the apps to sd card speeds up the phone. In fact of all the things this is what sped up my phone the most. Why else would app2sd be so popular? Read #4 on http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/b...lean-up-and-speed-up-your-android-smartphone/ .
To further speed up my phone I am trying to overclock. My phone is stable at 1.2GHz but at 1.3 GHz it reboots after some time. To make it stable at 1.3GHz should I increase the voltage at that frequency?
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Read it again. That's only about getting extra app space on smaller-storage devices. They actually recommend against moving things you use frequently in your linked article.
I'm with the others. Any gains you're seeing from this are placebo. There's nothing inherently faster about external storage.
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salilsurendran said:
Hey Guys,
My Samsung Droid Charge is supposed to have 512MB of RAM but most memory managers show only 374MB and 2 GB of internal storage and most tools show only 1.2GB. Why would this be? Am I missing something or should I use a different tool to analyze my memory.
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It has a total of 512MB RAM, and that is for everything, so the GPU and other such things have to take their share from the total pool. On the GB releases, that leaves us with 374MB. It's better than it used to be. On the Froyo releases, we only had 327MB to work with.

bubarub said:
Not sure about RAM but usually when u buy a hard drive the bigger the hard drive the lower the actual number of gigs. Maybe it is actually 1.2GB
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No, on a hard drive (or solid state drives or even SD/memory cards), what you buy is what you get. However, due to formatting, space reserved for backup/spare sectors, and what is considered a "gigabyte" to manufacturers vs consumers (1000 mb vs 1024 mb) you often end up with around 95% (probably off on that percentage) of the stated capacity. With RAM this is not the case, as that type of memory doesn't need formatting as its holding raw data with the computer making up its structure. And manufacturers of RAM are in agreement with consumers as to what a gig is.
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bubarub said:
Not sure about RAM but usually when u buy a hard drive the bigger the hard drive the lower the actual number of gigs. Maybe it is actually 1.2GB
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This is the difference between a gigabyte and a gibibyte. Hard drives are usually advertised in gigabytes (literally 1 billion bytes), while most OSes use gibibytes (2^30 bytes, or 1,073,741,824 bytes), since they do everything in "base 2", or binary. So an advertised 10GB hard drive has 10 billion bytes. Once you format the drive, the OS reports size in gibibytes, so you end up with:
Code:
10,000,000,000 / 1,073,741,824 = ~9.31GiB
That's also why if you look on most hard drive packages, it says "formatted size may be different than advertised size" or something similar.
Just a random fact of the day. Feel free to ignore it.
On topic: I don't believe the giga/gibi (or in the case of phone RAM, mega/mebi) is the issue. 512MB converted to mebibytes is roughly 488MiB. I believe the Charge is a 512MB device with some of that memory reserved for OS/system-only purposes. I could be wrong on that, however, so if anyone could clarify that'd be great.
Edit: Could have sworn I read through all of the replies before replying myself. I guess I didn't because multiple people beat me on both points by a day. Sorry about that duplicate info.

Cilraaz, let's just say you compiled both answers into a single post...
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The number one lesson I learned from buying this phone
Check the amount of run time memory before you buy a phone, especially if you have two companies like Verizon and Samsung loading bloatware. You were forced to root the phone and rid yourself of the bloatware, or not buy apps. I totally agree with the OP. He is 100% correct about the run time memory.
So I restored back to factory to get ready for another root. After the required Verizon and Samsung updates, hitting the clear memory button, I'm using 268MB of 373MB. Now I know the OS can swap, (because we love paging), but it really is ridiculous. I can't wait until March. Good luck everyone.

dbaps said:
Check the amount of run time memory before you buy a phone, especially if you have two companies like Verizon and Samsung loading bloatware. You were forced to root the phone and rid yourself of the bloatware, or not buy apps. I totally agree with the OP. He is 100% correct about the run time memory.
So I restored back to factory to get ready for another root. After the required Verizon and Samsung updates, hitting the clear memory button, I'm using 268MB of 373MB. Now I know the OS can swap, (because we love paging), but it really is ridiculous. I can't wait until March. Good luck everyone.
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I couldn't understand what you are saying here. From what I understand you are saying that is that when you rooted your phone you had 512MB of memory but after you installed Verizon and Samsung updates it started saying you had 373MB. So is it that Samsung and Verizon updates are taking away about 147 MB of memory? What is going to happen in March?

salilsurendran said:
I couldn't understand what you are saying here. From what I understand you are saying that is that when you rooted your phone you had 512MB of memory but after you installed Verizon and Samsung updates it started saying you had 373MB. So is it that Samsung and Verizon updates are taking away about 147 MB of memory? What is going to happen in March?
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No. Hardware wise the Charge has a total of 512 mb of RAM. The GPU and other hardware have to take from that pool, and the end result is that the Android OS has 373 MB of RAM to use. Verizon and Samsung bloatware and updates have no control over the hardware aspect, but the bloatware DOES utilize some ram while the phone is running (but does not take from that pool). March is probably when his upgrade is.
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salilsurendran said:
Hey Guys,
I finally got my phone to work at a decent speed. Here are the things I did:
1. Used Apps2SD to move the apps from internal storage to SD Card. Wondering why this helped? As far as I understand the apps are run in RAM and internal storage is used for storing data and apks etc. RAM is freed up by Android as and when needed but freeing up internal storage doesn't give android more RAM.
2. Use Autorun Manager to prevent some apps from starting up and remaining in memory. Now this I understand because this gives more RAM to android and avoids unnecessary swapping when applications are started up.
3. Used 'SD Booster' to increase sd cache size to 8192Kb. This gave some initial benefits but later on it became very slow as usual.
Bottom line is I am still puzzled by Android memory and SD card management. I am pretty sure though process swapping in and out of memory is what caused my phone to slow down. My Samsung Droid Charge is supposed to have 512MB of RAM but most memory managers show only 374MB and 2 GB of internal storage and most tools show only 1.2GB. Why would this be? Am I missing something or should I use a different tool to analyze my memory.
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What rom are you using? My son went swimming with his fascinate and I'm in the process of reviving my dc. I have compiled a few odds and ends and am mostly concerned about speed as well.
texbuck

texbuck said:
What rom are you using? My son went swimming with his fascinate and I'm in the process of reviving my dc. I have compiled a few odds and ends and am mostly concerned about speed as well.
texbuck
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I am using Eclipse 1.4 with PBJ.

Ok so I can clearly see that my phone is becoming slow again. Not sure as to what it is related to. Though one thing that surprises me is that I overclocked the CPU to 1.2 GHz and set the governor as 'conservative' and sometimes even ' smartassv2' but it changes to 'ondemand' even though I never changed it to that value. Why is this happening?

salilsurendran said:
Ok so I can clearly see that my phone is becoming slow again. Not sure as to what it is related to. Though one thing that surprises me is that I overclocked the CPU to 1.2 GHz and set the governor as 'conservative' and sometimes even ' smartassv2' but it changes to 'ondemand' even though I never changed it to that value. Why is this happening?
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Kernel? OC app?
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salilsurendran said:
Ok so I can clearly see that my phone is becoming slow again. Not sure as to what it is related to. Though one thing that surprises me is that I overclocked the CPU to 1.2 GHz and set the governor as 'conservative' and sometimes even ' smartassv2' but it changes to 'ondemand' even though I never changed it to that value. Why is this happening?
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Plugging the phone into a pc does that for some reason.
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I have to agree that even though my phone was initially fast it slowed down considerably after some time. Frustrated I then backuped my phone using Titanium backup and installed Tweaked 2.2 Rom + PBJ. But this time I did the conversion to EXT4 and the phone has become super snappy and the fastest I have ever seen. However, I am not rejoicing right now because I have only installed some very necessary apps like navigation, yelp etc. Don't know if the phone will be come slow after I install more apps. On Seepu I can see for the first time my used memory is green and this probably is a major reason why the phone has speeded up. Another factor is the EXT4 conversion.

Infinity was known for slowing down over a short period of time. Tweaked 2.2 is quite a bit better. But running a Droid Charge for several days without rebooting it once in a while will cause it to slow down too. Just reboot when it starts slowing down. It should help.

Before I add any more apps I want to save this state of the phone so that I can go back to this if the performance degrades. What do I have to do for this? I used Titanium backup but I see that it saves app data and you have to install each individual app. What I want is to make one click and restore my phone back to the state it previously was. Should I do a nandroid backup

[Q] Swap File, External Apps Partion, etc.

Hello people,
I got my Xperia L a couple of days ago and I have it running successfully with Vengeance + Clean n Tweaked after a loooot of tries.
This is my first Android phone after HTC Wildfire! Loving it so far [Was uber slow out-of-the-box though]
Anyway I want to know how beneficial it is to create a swap file on the External SD card and use it. Does it make a big difference in performance? If yes how do I achieve this?
Secondly I really want to be able to move user apps to External Storage. I tried moving them from within the Clean Master app and it did work BUT when I restart my phone the Xperia Home(launcher) app keeps crashing(until the SD card is initialized I guess). The easy fix is to open the notification bar or something for a minute before going back into to the Home Screen. So yes this kinda works. Just want to know if there's a better way.
One idea comes to mind is making a separate ext2/3/4 partition on the External SD Card and using that for user apps. Will the home launcher still crash? I really don't want to use a custom launcher. If this is possible how do I do it?
I read about the mod to make External memory as Internal. Does everything work correctly with that? However if partitioning is possible I would prefer that as opposed to using the whole External SD Card as internal memory.
Lastly, since I don't have 10 posts yet I can't post to DEV threads yet so I want to thank people from about 10 to 15 different threads which I referred to in the last 24 hours. lol!
p.s. I have a SanDisk 32GB Class 10 Micro SD Card

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I think what you searching for is Link2SD
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w1040 said:
I think what you searching for is Link2SD
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Thanks for the reply. I read all about the app and I think It MIGHT cause trouble at some point so I'm gonna stay away from it for now. Maybe when I want to play a HUGE game I'll use it. Good to know how to!
Anyone wants to shed some light regarding the swap file question?

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