[Q] How Do You "Start From Scratch"? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Been noticing some quirky behavior with my trusty ol' S2 lately.
The usual factory reset/wipe hasn't seemed to help.
Is there a way to basically "nuke" everything on the internal card, comparable to doing a format/OS reinstall on a PC?

Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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jd1639 said:
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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Thanks!
Is this a "wise" route to take or are is there another way to sort out the "gremlins"?

vexille said:
Thanks!
Is this a "wise" route to take or are is there another way to sort out the "gremlins"?
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Yeah it's wise. Wipe everything and Odin stock.
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jd1639 said:
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?

vexille said:
Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
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Use twrp to wipe the internal. It's a different wipe than factory reset or the caches. Flashing with odin will not wipe the card. If you have a card reader you could take it out and format it that way.
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jd1639 said:
Use twrp to wipe the internal. It's a different wipe than factory reset or the caches. Flashing with odin will not wipe the card. If you have a card reader you could take it out and format it that way.
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Thanks.
Currently have CWM on the S2 (but have used TWRP on my tablets).
Should I replace CWM or does it have the same functionality?

vexille said:
Thanks.
Currently have CWM on the S2 (but have used TWRP on my tablets).
Should I replace CWM or does it have the same functionality?
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Cwm had an option to wipe/format the internal card too I believe.
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Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?

vexille said:
Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
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Yeah
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vexille said:
Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
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Yes it does, it puts the stock recovery back on. If you want it back you'll have to flash that with odin too.
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vexille said:
Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
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from my restoring to stock sticky
5. FACTS AND TROUBLESHOOTING ON FLASHING STOCK FIRMWARES
FLASHING FIRMWARES DOES NOT WIPE YOUR SDCARDS, INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL: note: back them up just in case.
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jd1639 said:
Yes it does, it puts the stock recovery back on. If you want it back you'll have to flash that with odin too.
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Is it better to load it via Odin or through the CWM app on the Play store or is that also 6 of one half dozen of another?
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vexille said:
Is it better to load it via Odin or through the CWM app on the Play store or is that also 6 of one half dozen of another?
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If you already have cwm and want twrp, load it thru cwm. But if you odin a stock rom cwm won't be there anymore.
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if you want cwm on stock the app from play wont work, same goes for twrp
best or only way to install cwm/twrp on stock is through odin
once either are installed you can flash either one through the custom recovery using the zip files for the recoveries
read about the recoveries in the Q&a forum sticky [HOWTO] THE ULTIMATE NEWB GUIDE > | INSTALL CWM/TWRP | ROOT | UNROOT |the SKYROCKET

vincom said:
if you want cwm on stock the app from play wont work, same goes for twrp
best or only way to install cwm/twrp on stock is through odin
once either are installed you can flash either one through the custom recovery using the zip files for the recoveries
read about the recoveries in the Q&a forum sticky [HOWTO] THE ULTIMATE NEWB GUIDE > | INSTALL CWM/TWRP | ROOT | UNROOT |the SKYROCKET
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OK, so I've read and re-read through all the steps and here's what I think I need to do...
1. Flash stock ATT radio using CWM (currently have CM10 and my understanding is that going back to stock via Odin will not restore radio).
2. Return to stock via Odin process.
3. Install TWRP via Odin process.
4. Return to joys of custom ROMs...
Did I miss something or have the order wonky?

vexille said:
OK, so I've read and re-read through all the steps and here's what I think I need to do...
1. Flash stock ATT radio using CWM (currently have CM10 and my understanding is that going back to stock via Odin will not restore radio).
2. Return to stock via Odin process.
3. Install TWRP via Odin process.
4. Return to joys of custom ROMs...
Did I miss something or have the order wonky?
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you need to read more slowly lol, flashing stock firmware via odin restores everything including radio but flashing it first wont hurt if its for that firmware, but yes the steps are right but read the op of rom to see which radio works for said rom.

vincom said:
you need to read more slowly lol, flashing stock firmware via odin restores everything including radio but flashing it first wont hurt if its for that firmware, but yes the steps are right but read the op of rom to see which radio works for said rom.
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Somewhere in one of the guides I could swear there was a statement that going from CM10 back to stock would not reset the radio.
Anywho...
The process worked like a charm; many thanks to everyone who helped out.
The stock ROM loaded perfectly and I got TWRP on instead of CWM; I actually like it better than CWM now that I kicked the tires a bit on it.
I ended up putting the stock radio back over the CM10 version - not sure if it's just my area or AT&T voodoo but it works better for me.
The only gremlin this didn't fix was a problem with Pandora streaming. I stream it via Bluetooth in my car and when I skip or "thumbs down" about 50% time the stream signal is broken.
Bluetooth still shows it connected but it no longer plays and the phone audio is borked as well.
I'm wondering if this is a Pandora issue or maybe a CM10 and Pandora quirk..

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Wiped and Formated, Now Cant Flash?

Usually I just wipe data, cache, and dalvik. Today though I did this plus formated data, cache, and system. I never do this but the JellyWiz rom I was flashing said to do so. Since I did this the rom will not flash.
E: Can't open /external_sd_Root/Incubus26jc_JellyWiz_VZW_9_14_12_RLS3.zip (bad)
Installation aborted.
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When I tried restoring the old JB version I was updating from it gave me a MD5 mismatch error. When I tried to restore my original stock root which I have restored from several times without issue it just gave me "Error while restoring /system."
Need help! Stuck in recovery with no idea what to do
Try flashing a firmware through odin: 0
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i9100g user said:
Try flashing a firmware through odin: 0
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Not really sure what this means to be honest. I rooted using odin but what do you mean by flashing a firmware?
josbor11 said:
Not really sure what this means to be honest. I rooted using odin but what do you mean by flashing a firmware?
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Yes, do that again. Boot into Download mode(Batt pull to turn the phone off) then hold vol down+home+power till the prompt comes up.
Flash the root66 image using Odin from there.
Brian Gove said:
Yes, do that again. Boot into Download mode(Batt pull to turn the phone off) then hold vol down+home+power till the prompt comes up.
Flash the root66 image using Odin from there.
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I can just flash 66 as is? Don't have to flash a stock unrooted version first like you do when you brick?
Do you have any idea why this could have happened? I did everything it said on the page and even watched an installation video for the ROM following every step by step instruction. What the hell does formatting system, data, and cache do in recovery? Never had done it before and as soon as I did my phone just messed up. Also, if I flash 66 using odin will my old backups work again?
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I can just flash 66 as is? Don't have to flash a stock unrooted version first like you do when you brick?
Do you have any idea why this could have happened? I did everything it said on the page and even watched an installation video for the ROM following every step by step instruction. What the hell does formatting system, data, and cache do in recovery? Never had done it before and as soon as I did my phone just messed up. Also, if I flash 66 using odin will my old backups work again?
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I'm guessing there was a bad download and sadly your nandroid might have been corrupted.
Yes if you flash root66 hopefully your backups will work if they aren't corrupted.
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voodoomanx said:
I'm guessing there was a bad download and sadly your nandroid might have been corrupted.
Yes if you flash root66 hopefully your backups will work if they aren't corrupted.
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Cool thanks. Flashing 66 now through odin. My backups have worked fine before (the exact same ones that just failed). Once this is finished and I test out my backups (assuming they work) how should I go about reflashing JellyWiz? Should I format the system, data, cache again or just do the normal wipes? I'm afraid formatting will mess it up again. Is CWM inferior to TWRP? Thinking about using a different recovery after all of this.
josbor11 said:
Cool thanks. Flashing 66 now through odin. My backups have worked fine before (the exact same ones that just failed). Once this is finished and I test out my backups (assuming they work) how should I go about reflashing JellyWiz? Should I format the system, data, cache again or just do the normal wipes? I'm afraid formatting will mess it up again. Is CWM inferior to TWRP? Thinking about using a different recovery after all of this.
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I personally use cwm and to me it's more a matter of preference. I too have had a error restoring backups once and it was after a system wipe. A word of advice, because this saved me, keep a ROM on your SD card at all times to be able to just flash in an emergency.
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kintwofan said:
I personally use cwm and to me it's more a matter of preference. I too have had a error restoring backups once and it was after a system wipe. A word of advice, because this saved me, keep a ROM on your SD card at all times to be able to just flash in an emergency.
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A rom of Root 66?
Is it cwm flashable? I keep synergy as an emergency backup.
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A rom of Root 66?
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dont listen to him...flash root66 thru odin as already mentioned and go from there...use my guide if need be.
droidstyle said:
dont listen to him...flash root66 thru odin as already mentioned and go from there...use my guide if need be.
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I think you missed my point, at this point he needs Odin. However, if you keep a zip on your SD card then if your backups gasp like his situation he can just fish that zip. It was simply some advice for future reference, were not all next to a computer ask the time. For people like me that just get an urge to flash it helps to have backups like this.
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No one is addressing the format question originally asked. Why is formatting being requested on yhe newer jb rom's, and what (in detail) does it do?
Many posts that people are soft bricking thier devices because of formatting instead of just wiping.
What's the deal, want some real answers here, and I think many others do too.
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No one is addressing the format question originally asked. Why is formatting being requested on yhe newer jb rom's, and what (in detail) does it do?
Many posts that people are soft bricking thier devices because of formatting instead of just wiping.
What's the deal, want some real answers here, and I think many others do too.
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in order to flash jellywiz i had to do the following or else i bootlooped:
wipe data/factory reset
wipe dalvik cache
format system
flash rom
booted up flawless.
i also used this methid for paranoid android...i will probably update my guide with this. unfortunately i cant give any info on what formatting system is actually doing. never had to do this before??
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No one is addressing the format question originally asked. Why is formatting being requested on yhe newer jb rom's, and what (in detail) does it do?
Many posts that people are soft bricking thier devices because of formatting instead of just wiping.
What's the deal, want some real answers here, and I think many others do too.
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I don't know why they are suggesting it but it doesn't do anything beyond the normal factory reset and then the zip formatting system itself.
Its just the manual way of doing what a clean flash does.
Why are people having issues restoring nandroids after doing this? Apparently bootlooping occurs after format/jb install/restore previous nandroid.
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I don't know why they are suggesting it but it doesn't do anything beyond the normal factory reset and then the zip formatting system itself.
Its just the manual way of doing what a clean flash does.
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if im not mistaken formatting the system deletes the rom/kernel itself...normal factory reset from cwm recovery only deletes rom data/cache.
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Why are people having issues restoring nandroids after doing this? Apparently bootlooping occurs after format/jb install/restore previous nandroid.
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edit* good question!
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if im not mistaken formatting the system deletes the rom/kernel itself...normal factory reset from cwm recovery only deletes rom data/cache.
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Yeah you're right but the zip of the ROM 99% of the time formats system also.
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Yeah you're right but the zip of the ROM 99% of the time formats system also.
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i wonder why i had to format system to get the latest jellywiz rom to not hang on galaxy s splash screen? it makes no sense.
Also, how does a format not erase your nandroids? It should also wipe titanium backups if they are not on your external. Am I wrong on that? Could formatting lose certain bits of info that the nandroid may not have partitioned, and that's why the restores are not working correctly?
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Add on: good info guys
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[Q] Rooted my verizon s3 with instructions on this forum and now I'm am stuck

Everything was fine with the root however I used a font app installer that got the phone stuck in a boot loop (on the rainbow screen). How do I get back to rooted JB?
Did you do a back up of your original rom? You need to get back into recovery...
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No I didn't. I didn't see that in the instructions or I missed it. Any thoughts on how to get back to rooted JB?
Well if the font app got you into the boot loop then I don't think you lost root, I would get back into recovery wipe cache and hit reboot... See if that works... Good luck
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Unfortunately, I tried that. I think I did an accidental factory reset too but nothing has brought it back from the boot rainbow screen.
Did you unlock using EZ Unlock v1.2? You only mentioned that you rooted.
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No, I didn't use that. I followed the instructions to root found here (worked no problem until I met that $&#^%#& app) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439 I think I can reset using Odin I just don't know what to use
Aight, well did you unlock the bootloader? Your response dictates the suggested route to resolve this.
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I did follow the instructions to unlock the bootloader
If that's the case then you just need to boot into recovery and flash a rom. If you were running just stock rooted & unlocked VRBLK3, it's easier to just flash a rooted stock rom like the official VRBLK3 leak here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034118
Try just flashing that, without wiping, then boot into the rom.
or
If you were on a custom rom, just reflash that rom via recovery and you'll be fine. Unfortunately you lose all your settings of you wipe data in recovery so try reflashing either option without wiping if you absolutely need to try recovering whatever data already exists in your current rom. If this doesn't work, format data, wipe cache then flash the rom.
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I will give it a shot and let you know. Thanks so much! I was on stock ROM btw.
Cool, this should work
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Ok, this is a zip file. Does it have to be on the phone? If so, how do I put it there?
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Ok, this is a zip file. Does it have to be on the phone? If so, how do I put it there?
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Yes it does need to be there. If you have an sdcard just drag and drop onto it directly then flash in your custom recovery. Conversely, you should be able to boot into recovery and try connecting your phone to the laptop then dragging the zip over.
The longer method will be to Odin flash VRBLK3 and start all over from there.
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I am in Clockwork Mod recovery and my comp is not recognizing my phone as it did earlier.
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I am in Clockwork Mod recovery and my comp is not recognizing my phone as it did earlier.
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I don't use CWM but did you go to Mounts and Storage and select "Mount /sdcard"? Does it connect now?
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I went there but it didn't seem to do anything when I selected mount sdcard and conversely didn't connect either
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I went there but it didn't seem to do anything when I selected mount sdcard and conversely didn't connect either
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Aight well since that failed, you have to do this the long way: Odin flash the VRBLK3 rooted image from your laptop onto your phone. Choose one of the two images for VRBLK3 and follow the directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436
Edit: I realize I didn't ask but do you have an sd card?
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That worked! Thanks so much. Now, what is the best practice for backing things up so that I don't have this problem again? Should I root first then backup? Do I still have to unlock bootloader? Just wanting to handle this properly from this point forward.
It should be rooted already if you installed the Odin files from MrRobinson thread. It should come with either SuperSU or SuperUser correct? You also should still be unlocked but you can re-unlock using EZ Unlock v.1.2 from the following thread and you're undeniably unlocked. You'll hear a brief audio message if it worked.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
Also, please perform a nandroid back in CWM so you have something stable to return to if something goes awry in the future. That backup would have cut all this down to one simple step. You don't need to be unlocked to perform a nandroid however you do need to be rooted with a custom recovery.
Lastly, perform an IMEI backup using the "Comprehensive IMEI Backup" thread in the dev section. Do this and save the resulting Synergy zip from backup methods A and B in more than one place not on your phone. This is more so a precaution because flashing things in recovery can and may result in a complete loss of connection with Verizon.
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[Q] Re-Rooting?

I know the title may sound odd, but let me explain. I rooted my phone a while back and have flashed plenty of ROM's. I think that there is something wrong and would basically like to take it back to the starting point....that point you get right after you have rooted it for the first time. What would be the best way? I ask because I do not want to return it to stock as in this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867253)
Do I act as if I have never rooted it and run it through the ODIN process?
If so, what method as lately I have seen more than one.
Thanks all.
Whats the difference between the time after you first rooted your phone vs it being rooted now? Idk maybe use supersu built in options for restoring root?
There isn't any way to do it for now only computers can do that.
Odin flash a rooted VRBLK3 image from mrRobinson thread in the dev section. Use the /sdcard wipe tar. You'll then need to unlock the bootloader if you intend to flash kernels or roms again.
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SlimSnoops....I used this version on my sons when I rooted it....is this the same way as MrRobinsons and will it work?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
sideoutjj said:
SlimSnoops....I used this version on my sons when I rooted it....is this the same way as MrRobinsons and will it work?
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
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This is a great guide but is written for rooting a phone for the first time. What Slim was suggesting was to install a pre-rooted image onto your phone after cleaning it properly. If you want to do it this was since it is familiar to you, I would return to stock using the guide in the stickies and then using the guide that you referenced to root and unlock. Make sure that you back everything up including the IMEI. Good luck!
OK..so I go and do this first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436&highlight=mrrobinson
Then go do the root in the link I posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2046439
You mentioned cleaning...what do you mean by that?
Sound right?
sideoutjj said:
OK..so I go and do this first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436&highlight=mrrobinson
Then go do the root in the link I posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2046439
You mentioned cleaning...what do you mean by that?
Sound right?
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All you need is download the "full wipe" version from here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390214368362234355 then:
First, use Titanium to backup all your apps.
1. Remove your micro sdcard (it will wipe your card if you don't remove)
2. Boot into download mode (volume down + home + power buttons)
3. Use Odin to flash that image and remember only select PDA.
Once you boot up you will have a like factory setp with root. Do your normal setup then use Titanium to restore all your apps. That's it.
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All you need is download the "full wipe" version from here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390214368362234355 then:
First, use Titanium to backup all your apps.
1. Remove your micro sdcard (it will wipe your card if you don't remove)
2. Boot into download mode (volume down + home + power buttons)
3. Use Odin to flash that image and remember only select PDA.
Once you boot up you will have a like factory setp with root. Do your normal setup then use Titanium to restore all your apps. That's it.
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AWESOME...Thanks. I have used 4.1 and 4.2 ROM's and I just think that something is not running right, so I want to basically start over and pick a ROM I like,
Figured it out...thanks
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I have to ask...but how do I do the following per his instructions: Extract the root66_VZW_I535VRBLK1.tar.md5 from the .7z file you downloaded.
I downloaded the .7z file, but how do I extract the .md5 file from it? I have tried WinRar and 7Zip...neither likes it for some reason.
Thanks
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It is supposed to end in "md5"
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Odin flash a rooted VRBLK3 image from mrRobinson thread in the dev section. Use the /sdcard wipe tar. You'll then need to unlock the bootloader if you intend to flash kernels or roms again.
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Can someone who has never rooted their phone use the MrRobinson method to root for the first time?
Clyde Tacoma said:
Can someone who has never rooted their phone use the MrRobinson method to root for the first time?
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Yes! Although I see you created a thread and received an answer there as well.
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Yes! Although I see you created a thread and received an answer there as well.
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After I hijacked this thread I decided maybe creating my own was probably a better way to go. And maybe it will be easier for someone to find the same answer in the future. But it never hurts to have multiple opinions so thanks for your reply! I feel much more confident now that I wont brick another phone.

A good tip before you flash the new official JB UCMC1

Hello...
I saw that many users have a hard time flashing official roms using ODIN, and since Samsung and AT&T released their official JB UCMC1 and many users reported bootloops following the successful flash, here's a good approach I always use to avoid any problems in and/or following the flash procedure..
1.Since most of us are using custom recoveries, and they offer much superior functionally, boot into your custom recovery (doesn't matter what, cwm or TWRP).
2.DO A NANDROID BACKUP before you do anything to your external sdcard.
3.Wipe data/factory reset..
4.Format system/data/cache
5.If you have no external sdcard SKIP THIS STEP,plus this is optional (I prefer and do) : Format internal sd card..(I know many "smart" guys will jump here saying no need
(Of course my backups are on external sdcard..)
6.Now you're almost completely wiped and ready..
7.Power off your device.
8.Hold vol. up AND down simultaneously AND connect your OEM usb cable..
9.Now you're on Download mode..
10.Proceed with ODIN flash..
And now you can flash perfectly fine and without any chance of bootloop or and fear of previous rom leftovers..
Moreover, in case of any other emergency (not related to the above steps), and since boot and recovery partitions are still intact, you can power off, reboot to recovery and restore a previous nandroid if necessary..
Hope this might help.
Thanks
quikt said:
here is a better tip, flash mohan's odex or deodex ucmc1 through CWM or TWRP and skip odin.
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The topic title says the official JB UCMC1, which is flashed in ODIN.So head to mohan's topic and suggest your tip there..
mahanddeem said:
Would you please post the link to that ? does it say how to (or suggest) wipe before you ODIN ?
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If you odin you wipe everything, including any custom recovery No need for all the Mickey mouse.
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mahanddeem said:
Read again...Nothing about wiping external sdcard...Who suggested wiping external ?
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Why do you suggest internal? Don't you know that's where most apps default to save. Including pictures, music etc.
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jd1639 said:
If you odin you wipe everything, including any custom recovery No need for all the Mickey mouse.
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Why do you think bootloops occur after flashing stock rom using odin ?
mahanddeem said:
Why do you think bootloops occur after flashing stock rom using odin ?
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That's why you do a factory reset in the stock recovery after flashing in odin if you get a boot loop.
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jd1639 said:
Why do you suggest internal? Don't you know that's where most apps default to save. Including pictures, music etc.
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Oh thanks...I just knew that...how shameful I didn't know that before ?
Ok, back to topic,
all my data is on external
jd1639 said:
That's why you do a factory reset in the stock recovery after flashing in odin if you get a boot loop.
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Good, having to go to stock recovery after a bootloop to do factory reset proves the theory that leftovers from your previous roms flashes are there( in /data and /cache...because those are the 2 partitions that will be wiped after factory reset) and needs to be cleaned...And provided that stock recovery doesn't allow system wipe,it's not better than doing those wipes BEFORE you flash (and at that time before you ODIN you have a better recovery that can wipe all partitions)
Any informed computer use would agree that cleaning is done before you install(and not the other way around, because it would be stupid)..
Thanks buddy..
mahanddeem said:
The topic title says the official JB UCMC1, which is flashed in ODIN.
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Huh? Dude, get your facts straight, ODIN is NEVER official nor will ever be . The problem is posts like this noobs take and pollute dev threads. The only thing OFFICIAL is via Sammy OTA update or Kies (unless it came preinstalled).. and no sammobile is NOT official...where is xcrazydx
mohan_kr said:
Huh? Dude, get your facts straight, ODIN is NEVER official nor will ever be . The problem is posts like this noobs take and pollute dev threads. The only thing OFFICIAL is via Sammy OTA update or Kies (unless it came preinstalled).. and no sammobile is NOT official...where is xcrazydx
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Aren't the tar stock roms were taken from kies cache in windows(i.e. during a kies update) and then uploaded ?
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[Q] Fastest way to flash back to stock 4.1.2

What way is the fastest and most secure to flash back to the stock samsung 4.1.2 image? Is there anyway I can use fastboot to format my entire phone and then push the stock image to it? I think there is an easy way to skip the flashcounter and ODIN. I am on CM10.2.1 (stable) and after countless ROM flashes and going back between 4.3 and 4.4 I have so many folders and directories and partitions it is crazy. How can I wipe the entire phone so nothing at all is on it and go back to TW 4.1.2.
A link to a guide would be helpful also. I can't seem to find one.
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With what you are asking for, you want Odin. Odin flash this file and it will wipe your phone clean and restore you to stock, unrooted VRBMF1 4.1.2. You will want to root and unlock. Do not take any OTAs when your phone boots up. Follow section 5 of Droidstyle's guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Just use the tar file I linked below in Odin:
Only flash if it ends in .tar or .tar.md5, here is the VRBMF1 tar:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
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Thank you so much man. Trying it tonight.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
With what you are asking for, you want Odin. Odin flash this file and it will wipe your phone clean and restore you to stock, unrooted VRBMF1 4.1.2. You will want to root and unlock. Do not take any OTAs when your phone boots up. Follow section 5 of Droidstyle's guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Just use the tar file I linked below in Odin:
Only flash if it ends in .tar or .tar.md5, here is the VRBMF1 tar:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
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It doesn't mention it anywhere. Do I need to worry about triangle away coming from CM10 back to TW4.1?
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ErikFry said:
It doesn't mention it anywhere. Do I need to worry about triangle away coming from CM10 back to TW4.1?
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Depends if you have any ticks on the counter if you do you should triangle away before you odin. Are you planing on staying on touchwiz or will you be rooting unlocking and flashing a new rom? because if that is the case you could just wipe internal sd in twrp or clockwork mod then flash your desired rom on a nice clean internal sd.
ThePagel said:
Depends if you have any ticks on the counter if you do you should triangle away before you odin. Are you planing on staying on touchwiz or will you be rooting unlocking and flashing a new rom? because if that is the case you could just wipe internal sd in twrp or clockwork mod then flash your desired rom on a nice clean internal sd.
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I plan on flashing cleanrom8.1
If I wipe internal SD in recovery will it fix all extra file paths and partition problems I had before? And does wiping internal SD wipe the recovery?
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ErikFry said:
I plan on flashing cleanrom8.1
If I wipe internal SD in recovery will it fix all extra file paths and partition problems I had before? And does wiping internal SD wipe the recovery?
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It will do a format so as long as the partitions are the correct size it should fix any problems. Recovery will stay just as it was before the wipe. When you go to do the wipe just click on everything but external sd. I cant remember if it says format or wipe but do it a few times before you flash cleanrom and you should be on empty canvas to write your rom to. Just be warned that there is a format data option in twrp I believe (been a long time since I have seen a unmodified version) that will erase everything including external sd so don't use that. Also dont forget to have clean rom on your external before you start!
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ooooohhhhh I hope you see this! If it only has sd card as a option in the wipe menu that is probably your external sd.
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If it only has sd card as a option in the wipe menu that is probably your external sd.
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So make sure I'm just wiping internal SD right?
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ErikFry said:
So make sure I'm just wiping internal SD right?
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correct. I am a worry wart and remove my sd before I wipe. not necessary but i cant format it if its not inserted.
ThePagel said:
correct. I am a worry wart and remove my sd before I wipe. not necessary but i cant format it if its not inserted.
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Hopefully you are still awake. I wiped internal memory and did a factory reset for safety (don't worry I removed my SD card haha) And I flashed CleanRom8.1 zip and it said it was successfully flashed. When I rebooted the device I got the "please enter pin or password for this encrypted device" message with an area to type in. This phone has never been encrypted. What do I do? If I wiped internal why would anything other than what I flash be on the phone.
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Hopefully you are still awake. I wiped internal memory and did a factory reset for safety (don't worry I removed my SD card haha) And I flashed CleanRom8.1 zip and it said it was successfully flashed. When I rebooted the device I got the "please enter pin or password for this encrypted device" message with an area to type in. This phone has never been encrypted. What do I do? If I wiped internal why would anything other than what I flash be on the phone.
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Never heard of that happening. Is it before it starts to boot?
SlimSnoopOS said:
With what you are asking for, you want Odin. Odin flash this file and it will wipe your phone clean and restore you to stock, unrooted VRBMF1 4.1.2. You will want to root and unlock. Do not take any OTAs when your phone boots up. Follow section 5 of Droidstyle's guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Just use the tar file I linked below in Odin:
Only flash if it ends in .tar or .tar.md5, here is the VRBMF1 tar:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
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SlimSnoop I'm wondering if you have any suggestions for my most recent conundrum. Thank you for your help!
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Never heard of that happening. Is it before it starts to boot?
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I wiped Internal memory, wiped data&cache, reboot....bootscreen.....la la la la...."Enter PIN or Password" screen appears. For a brief moment my statusbar is shown. The phone appears to be in airplane mode. It does not show the proper time either.
ErikFry said:
I wiped Internal memory, wiped data&cache, reboot....bootscreen.....la la la la...."Enter PIN or Password" screen appears. For a brief moment my statusbar is shown. The phone appears to be in airplane mode. It does not show the proper time either.
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I did a quick Google and it looks like for some reason or another that rom installed encrypted. A factory reset should fix your problem.
ThePagel said:
I did a quick Google and it looks like for some reason or another that rom installed encrypted. A factory reset should fix your problem.
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Did not work, still there. But Im trying kitkat again. Quantum seems very stable. The wiping internal drive helped with my other issues though.
ErikFry said:
SlimSnoop I'm wondering if you have any suggestions for my most recent conundrum. Thank you for your help!
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I have seen this issue before but mostly that encyption popup is displayed in TWRP. I don't recall seeing any one method that ultimately worked for people. If you search for "encrypt" in this Q/A forum, there are 7 pages of results with a lot of inconclusive results or workarounds. I've skimmed the first 3 pages and haven't seen anything that stands out but I've seen similar issue reported by a few others.
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I have seen this issue before but mostly that encyption popup is displayed in TWRP. I don't recall seeing any one method that ultimately worked for people. If you search for "encrypt" in this Q/A forum, there are 7 pages of results with a lot of inconclusive results or workarounds. I've skimmed the first 3 pages and haven't seen anything that stands out but I've seen similar issue reported by a few others.
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Thank you for looking. You would think with an internal memory wipe, factory reset and system wipe it wouldn't be encrypted. Funny thing is...I've never encrypted it either, maybe touchwiz is not for me. Life is telling me something haha.
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ThePagel said:
I did a quick Google and it looks like for some reason or another that rom installed encrypted. A factory reset should fix your problem.
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Thank you for your help Pagel!
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Erik, did you have any luck going from 4.3 back to 4.1? I'm getting the firmware upgrade error.
Any thoughts?

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