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[SOLVED] Soft Brick - Flash to stock ROM with Odin?

Yesterday I was unable to turn on my phone. It loads the normal bootscreen, then the T-Mobile startup animation plays. It gets stuck at the huge S on the screen. A lot of people suggest flashing through Odin, but I'm not familiar with doing that. I saw the "[Solution Thread] Step by Step on how to flash any Gingerbread ROM.", but my device is froyo, and I just want to stay with stock ROM. I imagine I just follow the steps, except substitute stock with step 3. Where can I download the stock ROM though?
Thanks. I probably missed a thread explaining exactly what I'm asking, but if anyone could deal with a noob like me who knows nothing, that'd be greatly appreciated.
UPDATE: I did some goggling and found this. It looks pretty reliable, but can someone approve it for me? I'd rather not screw up my device:
http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-to-flash-updateupgrade-samsung_21.html

Use this guide with the Galaxy S 4g (you can also use ODIN version 1.85 instead of 1.7 if you like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
and pick one of the froyo roms (KB5, KC1, KD1) that are setup to use with ODIN here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554&highlight=bible

mike-y said:
Use this guide with the Galaxy S 4g (you can also use ODIN version 1.85 instead of 1.7 if you like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
and pick one of the froyo roms (KB5, KC1, KD1) that are setup to use with ODIN here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554&highlight=bible
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Thanks, I'll try this. Downloading this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836

mike-y said:
Use this guide with the Galaxy S 4g (you can also use ODIN version 1.85 instead of 1.7 if you like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
and pick one of the froyo roms (KB5, KC1, KD1) that are setup to use with ODIN here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554&highlight=bible
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I did that, and I did it successfully, but it didn't fix my problem. I described the status of my phone on the original post, can you look at it and try and tell if it's bricked or what do I need to do?

I'm not exactly sure of what you've done so far (not in the mood to run through all the links) our how it qualifies as "successful" considering the issue remains. Anyway this is what you can do for a fresh start:
1) download the following to your computer:
a) "odin"
b) "kc1 stock + root"
c) "super one click"
d) "kies mini"
2) Open Odin on your computer
3) Load up Odin and ALL of the KC1 files(note, Odin will repartition)
4) Flash and let the phone reboot.
5) Load super one click and UNroot
6) Load kies mini and let it update your phone kd1
Hope this helps!
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QUIETLYloud said:
I'm not exactly sure of what you've done so far (not in the mood to run through all the links) our how it qualifies as "successful" considering the issue remains. Anyway this is what you can do for a fresh start:
1) download the following to your computer:
a) "odin"
b) "kc1 stock + root"
c) "super one click"
d) "kies mini"
2) Open Odin on your computer
3) Load up Odin and ALL of the KC1 files(note, Odin will repartition)
4) Flash and let the phone reboot.
5) Load super one click and UNroot
6) Load kies mini and let it update your phone kd1
Hope this helps!
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what do you mean Odin will repartition? Does that mean I'll lose my data?

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but your data, that's not on your sd, is already gone unless you:
1) have a nandroid backup
2) created a titanium backup
3) let google backup your data
Any of that apply to you?
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QUIETLYloud said:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but your data, that's not on your sd, is already gone unless you:
1) have a nandroid backup
2) created a titanium backup
3) let google backup your data
Any of that apply to you?
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I created a titanium backup in the past, yes.

either way, i wouldnt recommend using TB as your main source of backup. it works, but you will eventually have glitches in random apps.
go the the bible thread. find the noobs guide to odin in the op. follow it. that should restore your phone. once you do this, let me know and i'll walk you through the rest.

jager555 said:
either way, i wouldnt recommend using TB as your main source of backup. it works, but you will eventually have glitches in random apps.
go the the bible thread. find the noobs guide to odin in the op. follow it. that should restore your phone. once you do this, let me know and i'll walk you through the rest.
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I already did that. It didn't solve my problem.

so you are still stuck at the galaxy S startup screen?

Yeah, unfortunately.

ok. can you try getting into recovery mode? if not, then you should be able to get into download mode. make sure odin is up and running prior to you plugging the phone into the computer.

After finishing with Odin, it boots into recovery mode anyway. I can still get into download mode also, and yes I made sure it was up and running.

wait. what are you flashing in odin? please odin to raver's kc1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129933
you should not boot back into cwm recovery. once it goes to samsung recovery, just select reboot normally and let the rom load.

jager555 said:
wait. what are you flashing in odin? please odin to raver's kc1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129933
you should not boot back into cwm recovery. once it goes to samsung recovery, just select reboot normally and let the rom load.
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Used this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836. I didn't boot back into cwm recovery, it was Samsung recovery.

Great, so just reboot from the recovery and you should be ok
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Nope, still gets stuck at the start-up screen.

Try to factory restore and wipe cache from the recovery.
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Will wiping cache delete apps and contacts?

[Q] Using ODIN erase all data?

I've tried searching and just can't seem to find a definitive answer. I'm wondering if when you do the root method using ODIN (This one) if it erases all the data on the tablet or not?
The reason I'm asking is I've got a tablet for my son and I would like to try and back up some of his save games off my tablet and transfer them to his new (nook color already rooted) so he doesn't have to start over from scratch. I'd probably like to do this using Titanium Backup which I can figure out myself, but I just don't want to try the rooting method without having at least a little hope that my files won't be erased.
Thanks,
-- Zeustopher

Zeustopher said:
I've tried searching and just can't seem to find a definitive answer. I'm wondering if when you do the root method using ODIN (This one) if it erases all the data on the tablet or not?
The reason I'm asking is I've got a tablet for my son and I would like to try and back up some of his save games off my tablet and transfer them to his new (nook color already rooted) so he doesn't have to start over from scratch. I'd probably like to do this using Titanium Backup which I can figure out myself, but I just don't want to try the rooting method without having at least a little hope that my files won't be erased.
Thanks,
-- Zeustopher
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flashing by ODIN will erase all data.. root+ Titanium Backup

romari0 said:
flashing by ODIN will erase all data.. root+ Titanium Backup
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Thanks for the reply. I was afraid that might be the case...
Does anyone have any ideas on another way I can back up the game saves without having root? Or better - I saw on the Note 10.1 forums that they've got a way to achieve root by just flashing a root-injected stock rom through the stock recovery. Is something like that possible with our tablets?
(For reference this is the posts/pages I'm referring to about the note 10.1 root method where they don't lose apps, etc: Here and Here)
-- Zeustopher

As i think so he played the game in stock rom non rooted then you want to root tab to backup
So you could flash via odin the root files and no erase will be done as total erase by odin occur only when you flash a full stock firmware not the root files
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Mohamedselim said:
As i think so he played the game in stock rom non rooted then you want to root tab to backup
So you could flash via odin the root files and no erase will be done as total erase by odin occur only when you flash a full stock firmware not the root files
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Oh I didn't realize that you could do that. What files would I need to flash exactly?
Thanks.
-- Zeustopher

What is your tab model number ?
To choose the right tutorial and files for your tab
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Mohamedselim said:
What is your tab model number ?
To choose the right tutorial and files for your tab
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I guess that might be important, huh?!
Galaxy tab 2 10.1 - GT-P5113
Thanks,
-- Zeustopher

I think this is the right tutorial and it includes the files needed for rooting
Read carefully every post multiple times and choose only the files for 5113
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
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Mohamedselim said:
I think this is the right tutorial and it includes the files needed for rooting
Read carefully every post multiple times and choose only the files for 5113
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
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Sorry I am so late replying back to this thread. College stuff came up which I needed to focus on.
I'm confused on the exact process I need to follow to flash only the Root files through ODIN. The instructions in that tutorial are for flashing the "CWM Root for Tab2 10.1" files through ClockworkMod Recovery. I've not had any experience with flashing things through ODIN and I'm not sure what I need to do to make sure that happens correctly. Does ODIN support flashing just root files like this (even if it looks like they are designed for CWM)? I was under the impression that if it was designed for CWM then it must be flashed using CWM.
-- Zeustopher

Does anyone have any further insight into flashing just the root files through ODIN and not the recovery? I just want to make absolute sure that I know what I'm doing before I give it a try.
Thanks,
-- Zeustopher

As a general rule, .tar files are for odin and. zip files for CWM. You can use my guide (link in signature) to root as it's a bit more detailed.

MultipleMonomials said:
As a general rule, .tar files are for odin and. zip files for CWM. You can use my guide (link in signature) to root as it's a bit more detailed.
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Thanks. I'll go give them a shot. It is good to see that simply doing the rooting won't wipe all my data.
-- Zeustopher

romari0 said:
flashing by ODIN will erase all data.. root+ Titanium Backup
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Firstly If flashing the same rom [yes I am talking about the whole firmware package not just root files] It won't wipe your data partition.
I've experienced it myself.
I've flashed the whole stock firmware downloaded from sammobile.com to the base stock firmware but it didn't wipe my internal memory.
My apps, contacts and messages were intact.
but having a backup is advised.
I'm confused on the exact process I need to follow to flash only the Root files through ODIN. The instructions in that tutorial are for flashing the "CWM Root for Tab2 10.1" files through ClockworkMod Recovery. I've not had any experience with flashing things through ODIN and I'm not sure what I need to do to make sure that happens correctly. Does ODIN support flashing just root files like this (even if it looks like they are designed for CWM)? I was under the impression that if it was designed for CWM then it must be flashed using CWM.
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Just in case you wish to have root without leaving your stock recovery then try CF_Auto_root.tar, you have your stock recovery with you.
Does anyone have any further insight into flashing just the root files through ODIN and not the recovery? I just want to make absolute sure that I know what I'm doing before I give it a try.
Thanks,
-- Zeustopher
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Rooting means pushing su libraries into system directories which is not possible with odin. There these custom recoveries come handy.
since root adb is accessable using these recoveries, they can easily install root into your device.
A healthy advice: Since you flash your device using odin [the only way... yet] for rooting. It will hit the flash counter in your device. use triangle away app from play store to remove it and get it to 0 so that you have your warranty with you. also remove your root and custom recovery before going to a service center..

Flashin tru odin won't remove your data..
it'll just write over the "data" thats included in the rom
if u use odin just to root..
it well just push root to system/app and /xbin or bin folder..
so u wont loose anything

[Q] Rooted my verizon s3 with instructions on this forum and now I'm am stuck

Everything was fine with the root however I used a font app installer that got the phone stuck in a boot loop (on the rainbow screen). How do I get back to rooted JB?

Did you do a back up of your original rom? You need to get back into recovery...
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No I didn't. I didn't see that in the instructions or I missed it. Any thoughts on how to get back to rooted JB?

Well if the font app got you into the boot loop then I don't think you lost root, I would get back into recovery wipe cache and hit reboot... See if that works... Good luck
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Unfortunately, I tried that. I think I did an accidental factory reset too but nothing has brought it back from the boot rainbow screen.

Did you unlock using EZ Unlock v1.2? You only mentioned that you rooted.
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No, I didn't use that. I followed the instructions to root found here (worked no problem until I met that $&#^%#& app) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439 I think I can reset using Odin I just don't know what to use

Aight, well did you unlock the bootloader? Your response dictates the suggested route to resolve this.
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I did follow the instructions to unlock the bootloader

If that's the case then you just need to boot into recovery and flash a rom. If you were running just stock rooted & unlocked VRBLK3, it's easier to just flash a rooted stock rom like the official VRBLK3 leak here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034118
Try just flashing that, without wiping, then boot into the rom.
or
If you were on a custom rom, just reflash that rom via recovery and you'll be fine. Unfortunately you lose all your settings of you wipe data in recovery so try reflashing either option without wiping if you absolutely need to try recovering whatever data already exists in your current rom. If this doesn't work, format data, wipe cache then flash the rom.
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I will give it a shot and let you know. Thanks so much! I was on stock ROM btw.

Cool, this should work
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Ok, this is a zip file. Does it have to be on the phone? If so, how do I put it there?

nctiger said:
Ok, this is a zip file. Does it have to be on the phone? If so, how do I put it there?
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Yes it does need to be there. If you have an sdcard just drag and drop onto it directly then flash in your custom recovery. Conversely, you should be able to boot into recovery and try connecting your phone to the laptop then dragging the zip over.
The longer method will be to Odin flash VRBLK3 and start all over from there.
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I am in Clockwork Mod recovery and my comp is not recognizing my phone as it did earlier.

nctiger said:
I am in Clockwork Mod recovery and my comp is not recognizing my phone as it did earlier.
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I don't use CWM but did you go to Mounts and Storage and select "Mount /sdcard"? Does it connect now?
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I went there but it didn't seem to do anything when I selected mount sdcard and conversely didn't connect either

nctiger said:
I went there but it didn't seem to do anything when I selected mount sdcard and conversely didn't connect either
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Aight well since that failed, you have to do this the long way: Odin flash the VRBLK3 rooted image from your laptop onto your phone. Choose one of the two images for VRBLK3 and follow the directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436
Edit: I realize I didn't ask but do you have an sd card?
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That worked! Thanks so much. Now, what is the best practice for backing things up so that I don't have this problem again? Should I root first then backup? Do I still have to unlock bootloader? Just wanting to handle this properly from this point forward.

It should be rooted already if you installed the Odin files from MrRobinson thread. It should come with either SuperSU or SuperUser correct? You also should still be unlocked but you can re-unlock using EZ Unlock v.1.2 from the following thread and you're undeniably unlocked. You'll hear a brief audio message if it worked.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
Also, please perform a nandroid back in CWM so you have something stable to return to if something goes awry in the future. That backup would have cut all this down to one simple step. You don't need to be unlocked to perform a nandroid however you do need to be rooted with a custom recovery.
Lastly, perform an IMEI backup using the "Comprehensive IMEI Backup" thread in the dev section. Do this and save the resulting Synergy zip from backup methods A and B in more than one place not on your phone. This is more so a precaution because flashing things in recovery can and may result in a complete loss of connection with Verizon.
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[Q] Cant unlock bootloader or Restore to stock or re root

i rooted it already, the only thing ive changed is the font on the phone, i want to update to the 4.2.1. jelly bean ROM but i didnt know about unlocking the bootloader till i tried to unlock it today and nothing is working. Ive tried everything with odin, CASUAL, nothing. so i figured if i restore back to stock then root again incase something went wrong and it wont let me in odin. Keeps saying fail. I download root checker and it tells me i dont have proper root access. Even though i have superuser. I have no clue what the problem is now and im stuck. Please help ..

What is your current phone info under About Phone? How exactly does Odin fail? There's not much that can go wrong address long as you're inputting the correct files and are actually in download mode. What you could do is just:
1) Odin flash MrRobinson rooted TW 4.1 JB
2) use EZ Unlock v.1.2 to unlock
3) install your preferred custom recovery
4) flash whichever rom you want
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SlimSnoopOS said:
What is your current phone info under About Phone? How exactly does Odin fail? There's not much that can go wrong address long as you're inputting the correct files and are actually in download mode. What you could do is just:
1) Odin flash MrRobinson rooted TW 4.1 JB
2) use EZ Unlock v.1.2 to unlock
3) install your preferred custom recovery
4) flash whichever rom you want
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I'm running 4.0.4. And the first thing I tried was ez unlock and it said failed and asked if I'm rooted.

Dsolo23 said:
I'm running 4.0.4. And the first thing I tried was ez unlock and it said failed and asked if I'm rooted.
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How are you booting into download mode (for Odin) on your phone? Also, do you have "su" in this directory: System/xbin/
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SlimSnoopOS said:
How are you booting into download mode (for Odin) on your phone?
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Volume down, home and power. It worked before the first time I rooted it using odin but now it fails me everytime

try this
Dsolo23 said:
Volume down, home and power. It worked before the first time I rooted it using odin but now it fails me everytime
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IF your running on 4.0.4 try this. Look in the solutions section, this may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065285
please give a thanks to funkymonk101 for his awesome advise. i take no credit for this, i'm only trying to pass on the information from others.
Good luck

ssphaneuf said:
IF your running on 4.0.4 try this. Look in the solutions section, this may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2065285
please give a thanks to funkymonk101 for his awesome advise. i take no credit for this, i'm only trying to pass on the information from others.
Good luck
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Problem is.. I've tried that already lol it always says fail no matter what I try. Literally

Dsolo23 said:
Problem is.. I've tried that already lol it always says fail no matter what I try. Literally
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Could you tell me if you have "su" in this directory : System/xbin/
Are you saying that your phone will not boot into download mode using the three finger combo? Or are you saying the file that you flash in Odin is failing? There's a little ambiguity here. If you can't boot into download mode BUT you do have su, try either:
1) without quotes, this adb command: "adb reboot download"
OR
2) Download Terminal Emulator, then type:
su
reboot download
Then try Odin flashing a stock image.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Could you tell me if you have "su" in this directory : System/xbin/
Are you saying that your phone will not boot into download mode using the three finger combo? Or are you saying the file that you flash in Odin is failing? There's a little ambiguity here. If you can't boot into download mode BUT you do have su, try either:
1) without quotes, this adb command: "adb reboot download"
OR
2) Download Terminal Emulator, then type:
su
reboot download
Then try Odin flashing a stock image.
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No I can get into download mode but I never tried the commands. I just don't understand why it keeps failing me, tried a couple different stock files and all fail. Appreciate the help

Dsolo23 said:
No I can get into download mode but I never tried the commands. I just don't understand why it keeps failing me, tried a couple different stock files and all fail. Appreciate the help
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Ahh ok, clears it up for me. Well, Droidstyle's guide has the stock images for VRALG1 and VRBLK3 (I think). For you, it's probably easier to use VRALG1 stock image then root again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
I have to ask, where were you downloading your Odin stock images from? I haven't heard of many folks having issues with Droidstyle's at all.
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Ahh I've never tried that link. Will get back to you in a lil bit. Thanks!
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Any luck?
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Gotta go to work, im gonna try tonight
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Ahh ok, clears it up for me. Well, Droidstyle's guide has the stock images for VRALG1 and VRBLK3 (I think). For you, it's probably easier to use VRALG1 stock image then root again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
I have to ask, where were you downloading your Odin stock images from? I haven't heard of many folks having issues with Droidstyle's at all.
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I also can not install anything with out fail in odin! When I try to install anything from sd card I get failed to verify signature, I do not have unlocked bootloader or rooted phone. its completely stock. Is there anyway to unlock bootloader from odin? my main problem is the SIM card Check in the begging of the phone as I do not have a Verizon Sim at all.

Just tried and nothing. After a minute the last thing Odin says is "end..." and nothing happens
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nlopez1907 said:
I also can not install anything with out fail in odin! When I try to install anything from sd card I get failed to verify signature, I do not have unlocked bootloader or rooted phone. its completely stock. Is there anyway to unlock bootloader from odin? my main problem is the SIM card Check in the begging of the phone as I do not have a Verizon Sim at all.
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What are you trying to do? If you're using Odin to flash anything, your phone needs to be in download mode: hold power button, volume down, and home. Odin will not recognize your phone otherwise.
Dsolo23 said:
Just tried and nothing. After a minute the last thing Odin says is "end..." and nothing happens
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When does Odin say this? After it does the file verification once you have selected the file from your computer? Or after you press Start?
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SlimSnoopOS said:
What are you trying to do? If you're using Odin to flash anything, your phone needs to be in download mode: hold power button, volume down, and home. Odin will not recognize your phone otherwise.
When does Odin say this? After it does the file verification once you have selected the file from your computer? Or after you press Start?
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HI! I was able to get into the phone with a Verizon sim and unlock the bootloader and root. with the root I was able to uninstall all Verizon software and able to do a factory restore with NO VERIZON SIM CHECK! SO NOWWWW!!! my question is I want to unlock the phone and use on Tmobile I do not care about 3g or anything like that just a working unlock for calls and text! Also anyone know a good Rom for Tmobile on this device???

SlimSnoopOS said:
What are you trying to do? If you're using Odin to flash anything, your phone needs to be in download mode: hold power button, volume down, and home. Odin will not recognize your phone otherwise.
When does Odin say this? After it does the file verification once you have selected the file from your computer? Or after you press Start?
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I'm sorry I feel like such an idiot. After I downloaded the zip file I never extracted it lol I did it this time and now I'm stock on 4.0.4 is there a way to root and unlock downloader at the same time because the last way I rooted didn't unlock it

Dsolo23 said:
I'm sorry I feel like such an idiot. After I downloaded the zip file I never extracted it lol I did it this time and now I'm stock on 4.0.4 is there a way to root and unlock downloader at the same time because the last way I rooted didn't unlock it
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Haha it's all good. I only know of the two phase way, root first then unlock using EZ Unlock v.1.2. Section 1 of Droidstyle's guide will sort you out if you're on ICS 4.0.4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Can someone please help. I cannot get any roms installed it allways failed verifying it tells me its rooted but I cant get any roms flashed.
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[Q] How Do You "Start From Scratch"?

Been noticing some quirky behavior with my trusty ol' S2 lately.
The usual factory reset/wipe hasn't seemed to help.
Is there a way to basically "nuke" everything on the internal card, comparable to doing a format/OS reinstall on a PC?

Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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jd1639 said:
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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Thanks!
Is this a "wise" route to take or are is there another way to sort out the "gremlins"?

vexille said:
Thanks!
Is this a "wise" route to take or are is there another way to sort out the "gremlins"?
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Yeah it's wise. Wipe everything and Odin stock.
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jd1639 said:
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?

vexille said:
Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
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Use twrp to wipe the internal. It's a different wipe than factory reset or the caches. Flashing with odin will not wipe the card. If you have a card reader you could take it out and format it that way.
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Use twrp to wipe the internal. It's a different wipe than factory reset or the caches. Flashing with odin will not wipe the card. If you have a card reader you could take it out and format it that way.
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Thanks.
Currently have CWM on the S2 (but have used TWRP on my tablets).
Should I replace CWM or does it have the same functionality?

vexille said:
Thanks.
Currently have CWM on the S2 (but have used TWRP on my tablets).
Should I replace CWM or does it have the same functionality?
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Cwm had an option to wipe/format the internal card too I believe.
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Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?

vexille said:
Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
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Yeah
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vexille said:
Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
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Yes it does, it puts the stock recovery back on. If you want it back you'll have to flash that with odin too.
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vexille said:
Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
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from my restoring to stock sticky
5. FACTS AND TROUBLESHOOTING ON FLASHING STOCK FIRMWARES
FLASHING FIRMWARES DOES NOT WIPE YOUR SDCARDS, INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL: note: back them up just in case.
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jd1639 said:
Yes it does, it puts the stock recovery back on. If you want it back you'll have to flash that with odin too.
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Is it better to load it via Odin or through the CWM app on the Play store or is that also 6 of one half dozen of another?
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vexille said:
Is it better to load it via Odin or through the CWM app on the Play store or is that also 6 of one half dozen of another?
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If you already have cwm and want twrp, load it thru cwm. But if you odin a stock rom cwm won't be there anymore.
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if you want cwm on stock the app from play wont work, same goes for twrp
best or only way to install cwm/twrp on stock is through odin
once either are installed you can flash either one through the custom recovery using the zip files for the recoveries
read about the recoveries in the Q&a forum sticky [HOWTO] THE ULTIMATE NEWB GUIDE > | INSTALL CWM/TWRP | ROOT | UNROOT |the SKYROCKET

vincom said:
if you want cwm on stock the app from play wont work, same goes for twrp
best or only way to install cwm/twrp on stock is through odin
once either are installed you can flash either one through the custom recovery using the zip files for the recoveries
read about the recoveries in the Q&a forum sticky [HOWTO] THE ULTIMATE NEWB GUIDE > | INSTALL CWM/TWRP | ROOT | UNROOT |the SKYROCKET
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OK, so I've read and re-read through all the steps and here's what I think I need to do...
1. Flash stock ATT radio using CWM (currently have CM10 and my understanding is that going back to stock via Odin will not restore radio).
2. Return to stock via Odin process.
3. Install TWRP via Odin process.
4. Return to joys of custom ROMs...
Did I miss something or have the order wonky?

vexille said:
OK, so I've read and re-read through all the steps and here's what I think I need to do...
1. Flash stock ATT radio using CWM (currently have CM10 and my understanding is that going back to stock via Odin will not restore radio).
2. Return to stock via Odin process.
3. Install TWRP via Odin process.
4. Return to joys of custom ROMs...
Did I miss something or have the order wonky?
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you need to read more slowly lol, flashing stock firmware via odin restores everything including radio but flashing it first wont hurt if its for that firmware, but yes the steps are right but read the op of rom to see which radio works for said rom.

vincom said:
you need to read more slowly lol, flashing stock firmware via odin restores everything including radio but flashing it first wont hurt if its for that firmware, but yes the steps are right but read the op of rom to see which radio works for said rom.
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Somewhere in one of the guides I could swear there was a statement that going from CM10 back to stock would not reset the radio.
Anywho...
The process worked like a charm; many thanks to everyone who helped out.
The stock ROM loaded perfectly and I got TWRP on instead of CWM; I actually like it better than CWM now that I kicked the tires a bit on it.
I ended up putting the stock radio back over the CM10 version - not sure if it's just my area or AT&T voodoo but it works better for me.
The only gremlin this didn't fix was a problem with Pandora streaming. I stream it via Bluetooth in my car and when I skip or "thumbs down" about 50% time the stream signal is broken.
Bluetooth still shows it connected but it no longer plays and the phone audio is borked as well.
I'm wondering if this is a Pandora issue or maybe a CM10 and Pandora quirk..