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I hope this is the correct forum to ask these questions.
1: Can someone help me understand the lack of compatibility between the Transformer and a decent chunk of apps that seem to work just fine on other Android Tablets.
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2: Does the Transformer Prime have these exact same issues?
Is Asus just using an unusual hardware setup that no other vendor is using or is the software just that borked?
The Transformer is an OK piece of hardware and I wouldn't mind upgrading to a prime or even a 700 when they release but if they will have (or already do have) the same issues I will be switching to another hardware company for my next Android tablet.
I am running stock Rom and just don't feel like going through the hassle of using one of the modded OS's unless they are just "that much better".
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.
Grumsh said:
I hope this is the correct forum to ask these questions.
1: Can someone help me understand the lack of compatibility between the Transformer and a decent chunk of apps that seem to work just fine on other Android Tablets.
And
2: Does the Transformer Prime have these exact same issues?
Is Asus just using an unusual hardware setup that no other vendor is using or is the software just that borked?
The Transformer is an OK piece of hardware and I wouldn't mind upgrading to a prime or even a 700 when they release but if they will have (or already do have) the same issues I will be switching to another hardware company for my next Android tablet.
I am running stock Rom and just don't feel like going through the hassle of using one of the modded OS's unless they are just "that much better".
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.
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What applications are you talking about specifically? Only ones I know of are gameloft games, but I figured out how to make them work by editing a few lines within the apk thanks to a guide I found awhile back.
Yes,
A list of the ones you want that are not working would be good..
While I do get the market telling me that there is a few that are not for the transformer..
I usually push them to my phone then transfer them over..and they work fine..
Also..as this is a Q/A.. refer to this post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14728247
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dgcruzing said:
Yes,
A list of the ones you want that are not working would be good..
While I do get the market telling me that there is a few that are not for the transformer..
I usually push them to my phone then transfer them over..and they work fine..
Also..as this is a Q/A.. refer to this post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14728247
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Sorry I forgot about operation Iron fist ( been a while since I have posted here I mainly lurk ). While Game loft games are an example there are others that are not games which made me decide to finally ask the question.
Grumsh said:
Sorry I forgot about operation Iron fist ( been a while since I have posted here I mainly lurk ). While Game loft games are an example there are others that are not games which made me decide to finally ask the question.
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You should try getting the apk by other means if the market says its not compatible (like from your phone for ex.) If all else fails, you might have to 'edit' the apk like I did.
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I2IEAILiiTY said:
You should try getting the apk by other means if the market says its not compatible (like from your phone for ex.) If all else fails, you might have to 'edit' the apk like I did.
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Mind linking to that method of editing apk's you found? Thanks.
Saav said:
Mind linking to that method of editing apk's you found? Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25509954#post25509954
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25509954#post25509954
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Much appreciated, thank you.
I'm sure its a little pre-mature since it just came out here in the U.S. yesterday but, has anyone heard anything about the tf700 getting the bootloader unlocking tool? My tf700 is on its way here now, and all thought I'm sure its great stock, I have to have my custom rom's.
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No definites, but I read on here yesterday that the Prime got it within a month, so I would wager that by early August things will get up and running.
MartyHulskemper said:
No definites, but I read on here yesterday that the Prime got it within a month, so I would wager that by early August things will get up and running.
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I only said this about TF300, not the Prime, but I have hopes set high too
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I only said this about TF300, not the Prime, but I have hopes set high too
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Ah yes, that was it. Oh well, even a more recent example.
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Ah yes, that was it. Oh well, even a more recent example.
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I remember the Prime got it in about a month. The forums were flipping out though, they couldn't handle not having it yet, so Asus put it out there.
I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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smashingtool said:
I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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What are you talking about. Every single Android device starts with a locked bootloader when it's released. ASUS has been pretty quick with unlocking tools so far.
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What are you talking about. Every single Android device starts with a locked bootloader when it's released. ASUS has been pretty quick with unlocking tools so far.
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His issue is more that the warranty is voided than it shipping locked. To which I agree with him, but its not a dealbreaker since literally the only devices that DONT do that are the Nexus devices.
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I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
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If your willing to spend a extra $60, buy a squaretrade warranty for two years. Everything is covered, even if you drop it in a pool. On something this expensive, $60 for two years of awesome insurance is pretty cheap. They don't mind a unlocked bootloader either.
ASUS's statement is that you MAY lose your warranty after doing this, not that you WILL. In this respect they don't diverge much from HTC or - I believe - Samsung (not that I'm ASUS's fanboy, just saying). Search xda forums, there was a bunch of people who got their Primes fixed on warranty's conditions after unlocking, rooting and going into a bootloop.
I have never seen a confirmed case of a mfr denying hardware warranty for rooting, unlocking or flashing roms. I've returned/rma'd several defective devices with one or more of those attributes. Now if you brick it flashing then all bets are off.
Also, so you don't like nvidia, cant live with propritary usb connector(micro usb can't charge this baby anyway), and cant deal with unlocking bootloader. Just exactly what tablet are you going to buy that doesnt have any of those issues and isn't 49.99 from china?
Microusb charges tablets just fine. My touch pad, for example, has it.
I'll wait?
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ASUS's statement is that you MAY lose your warranty after doing this, not that you WILL. In this respect they don't diverge much from HTC or - I believe - Samsung (not that I'm ASUS's fanboy, just saying). Search xda forums, there was a bunch of people who got their Primes fixed on warranty's conditions after unlocking, rooting and going into a bootloop.
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Good to know, but I'm still a bit wary...
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smashingtool said:
I came here to ask if the bootloader is locked. This makes me sad. I'm not willing to lose my hardware warranty to flash roms. This, plus the lack of micro-usb and the use of nvidia will force me to buy something else.
It's a shame, the tablet is amazing in every other way.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Like everyone is saying, You can still get warranty service for hardware issues even if your unlocked. The only downside to unlocking is ASUS won't give your tablet OTA updates, but you can still download and flash the firmware from the asus support website. And chances are if you're unlocked, you're not using the stock firmware.
I think asus has to use their own proprietary plug that to make it work with the dock. You are still given a cable which plugs into your transformer on one end and into a usb port on the other end, so so lack of microusb is really a non-issue.
Don't understand what's wrong with Nvidia, most of the issues so far seem to be software related. Tegra also comes with some nice bells and whistles.
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Microusb charges tablets just fine. My touch pad, for example, has it.
I'll wait?
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I assume the power throughput needed to charge the two relatively large batteries at once pretty much excludes microUSB charging cables (which use standardized maximum power on the pins). For smaller battery capacity, less-capable tablets, such as, with all respect, your TouchPad, it's indeed fine. What are you waiting for, if I may ask? Till, somewhere, somehow, ASUS decides to heed your lonely call for microUSB and ditches it on newer iterations (or units) of the Infinity? Just kidding, obviously, but the question still stand, especially when you couple it to the (pretty much sure-fire near-)future availability of the unlocked bootloader.
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Like everyone is saying, You can still get warranty service for hardware issues even if your unlocked. The only downside to unlocking is ASUS won't give your tablet OTA updates, but you can still download and flash the firmware from the asus support website. And chances are if you're unlocked, you're not using the stock firmware.
I think asus has to use their own proprietary plug that to make it work with the dock. You are still given a cable which plugs into your transformer on one end and into a usb port on the other end, so so lack of microusb is really a non-issue.
Don't understand what's wrong with Nvidia, most of the issues so far seem to be software related. Tegra also comes with some nice bells and whistles.
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Sorry but that is incorrect. The Asus warning and agreement is very clear on this. If you unlock your bootloader they basically have nothing for you what so ever. Hardware included.
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newellj79 said:
Sorry but that is incorrect. The Asus warning and agreement is very clear on this. If you unlock your bootloader they basically have nothing for you what so ever. Hardware included.
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I know the warning says otherwise, but people have still managed to get their ulocked transformers fixed. Either asus has somehow decided to still do hardware repairs, or the warranty centers put off checking the devices. I personally wouldn't count on it. Make sure your transformer is issue free before unlocking, and don't send it in just because you bricked it.(which shouldn't be possible unless you tried to overwrite the bootloader and lost fastboot)
I'm just saying the odds are if your unlocked, you're still going to get warranty service.
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Since no bootloader unlocking tool is available, does that mean I can't even flash a stock rom?
Got mine from China and itching to get US or UK or whatever rom on it, but I can't seem to find anything in the forum
I believe you already got a response to that in another thread.
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d14b0ll0s said:
I believe you already got a response to that in another thread.
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Thanks for your reply, and for the write-up you did in the other thread.
I had already read it when I posted here but it isn't clear to me - probably my bad, I'm used to flashing my Samsung Galaxy S (1&3) but I've never done it on a tablet and it seems different. I haven't found any clear instructions on doing so for the TPI.
I get that you used SuperCharger V6, it didn't work and froze up your tablet, then you got it to work as you described.
So, I don't know if I still need to use SuperCharger (which from what I gather is not a modified rom??) or just copy the files you mentioned to the SDcard, and once the files are copied how to get to recovery mode and if root is even required :s
I'm very sorry if these things seem obvious to you all, but the TPI forum is still a bit empty and I couldn't find this info here. Don't even know if what works for the Prime will work for Infinity so I'm not sure I should go digging there as well.
So, I sent Asus tech support a question about the Dynamic Contrast functionality on the TF700. Basically, I described the "side-effect" of the screen getting brighter and dimmer as the amount of white on the screen changes (which is the dynamic contrast) and was asking if there was any way to disable this "feature" either now or planned in the future.
Their answer - they told me to do a factory reset! <sigh>.
Why do they *always* tell people to do that, even when it has *nothing* to do with the question!?!??! Man, is that annoying....
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Hey, about the dynamic contrast that you're talking does it happen when you swipe through your home screen (gets dim and bright). I sent a similar inquiry to ASUS about this and they also asked me to do a factory reset which doesn't make any sense to this problem.
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DerekJT said:
Hey, about the dynamic contrast that you're talking does it happen when you swipe through your home screen (gets dim and bright). I sent a similar inquiry to ASUS about this and they also asked me to do a factory reset which doesn't make any sense to this problem.
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Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The TF700 is the only tablet where I've seen it. I can live with it normally, but watching certain videos is just annoying as hell because of it!
At least let me enable/disable the feature as needed!
When I replied and asked again for them to confirm that the TF700 does in fact use dynamic contrast, their answer was "not that I know of". What the hell kind of answer is that? You work for Asus - find out!!
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jtrosky said:
Their answer - they told me to do a factory reset! <sigh>.
Why do they *always* tell people to do that, even when it has *nothing* to do with the question!?!??! Man, is that annoying....
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I was told to enable software rendering in Internet Explorer 9 when I asked about the TF700 I/O performance issues, so that was of much help of course.
I guess we shouldn't expect more from first-line support...
Wow, that's pitiful.
jtrosky said:
Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. The TF700 is the only tablet where I've seen it. I can live with it normally, but watching certain videos is just annoying as hell because of it!
At least let me enable/disable the feature as needed!
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My Xoom does exactly the same since Android 3.x , even now with the 4.1.1 update it still have this annoying dynamic-contrast
I've found that turning on IPS+ and then turning the brightness down to a bearable level helps when I'm watching videos.
The dynamic contrast really bothers me when I'm watching my anime because the faces get all flushed out and everyone looks pale like Rei (I mean, wtf ASUS, how could you do that) and the screen flickers. I find rebooting usually fixes the problem, or using different media players.
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So, I sent Asus tech support a question about the Dynamic Contrast functionality on the TF700. Basically, I described the "side-effect" of the screen getting brighter and dimmer as the amount of white on the screen changes (which is the dynamic contrast) and was asking if there was any way to disable this "feature" either now or planned in the future.
Their answer - they told me to do a factory reset! <sigh>.
Why do they *always* tell people to do that, even when it has *nothing* to do with the question!?!??! Man, is that annoying....
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Einride said:
I was told to enable software rendering in Internet Explorer 9 when I asked about the TF700 I/O performance issues, so that was of much help of course.
I guess we shouldn't expect more from first-line support...
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As with all larger companies nowadays, the first line of support is staffed with green maqaques or some other species of monkey -- I can't believe they're hiring primates as any primate species I know of has higher intelligence than this. They don't even read. Look for Einride's original thread in the forum, it's bloody hilarious.
I hate canned responses, but this is what the customer gets when the company "optimizes" its processes. All goes to Hell.
Einride said:
I was told to enable software rendering in Internet Explorer 9 when I asked about the TF700 I/O performance issues, so that was of much help of course.
I guess we shouldn't expect more from first-line support...
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I'm waiting for Microsoft to launch Internet Explorer 9 for Android. It will be the best thing since slice bread, gone will be the issues of web pages not working properly and having to select Desktop all the time.
The Android tablet exclusive IE9 browser will perfectively crafted to operate in the same manner that IE9 operates in a Windows 7 environment only it will be in a Android OS environment.
:fingers-crossed:
+Silverlight support
+Flash Support even in JB in IE9 Android.
Microsoft would be a big hit if they do this.
:fingers-crossed:
Microsoft Office 2012 for Android coming soon.
I think that the line "s/he's not doing anything a highly trained monkey couldn't do" suddenly took on new meaning.
I only notice this in power-saving mode. Switch to balanced/performance and it's gone (or at least not noticeable).
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I only notice this in power-saving mode. Switch to balanced/performance and it's gone (or at least not noticeable).
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I only use balanced mode, but it is still quite noticeable - someone suggested switching to IPS+ mode, which does help, but it's just *too* bright in certain settings!
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what kind of problem is this, i didn't know there is an issue like this on this high-end tablet, should i cancel my order? or does it have something to do with auto brightness setting?
It's supposed to be a feature. Unfortunately, it's a damn annoying one.
d14b0ll0s said:
I think that the line "s/he's not doing anything a highly trained monkey couldn't do" suddenly took on new meaning.
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You and I keep having these sexually-connotated side discussions, ey?
Where I grew up (Amsterdam), there are entire city parts filled with something roughly resembling trained monkeys. I guess their reproductive capabilities form their performance pinnacle, although that is not too hard if it's the only thing you can perform.
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MartyHulskemper said:
You and I keep having these sexually-connotated side discussions, ey?
Where I grew up (Amsterdam), there are entire city parts filled with something roughly resembling trained monkeys. I guess their reproductive capabilities form their performance pinnacle, although that is not too hard if it's the only thing you can perform.
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So you mean that when they're responding to our e-mails they're just simply f...ing ([with] us)?
It all really gets me to remember a good ol' classic, userfriendly.org
I am trying to find the other thread on this, but can't.
Has a solution been found for this?
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I am trying to find the other thread on this, but can't.
Has a solution been found for this?
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Nope, and since it is a 'feature', I wouldn't count on it getting 'fixed'. (Personally, I do not find it annoying, but I can see why other users are bothere by it.)
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For the Tapatalk users out there (with Tapatalk, the Sticky posts don't show unless you specifically look for them) - we've come up with a solution to the "Dynamic Contrast"/"SmartDimmer" problem!
Please check this great Sticky thread for details - lot's of good stuff in here - don't want Tapatalk users to miss it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28427614
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Hi, I'm on the verge of unlocking, but I don't know what benefits would I get. I'm rooted already and I was thinking of just waiting for jb. So what should I do fellas?
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hit173 said:
Hi, I'm on the verge of unlocking, but I don't know what benefits would I get. I'm rooted already and I was thinking of just waiting for jb. So what should I do fellas?
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I'm waiting for JB. I typically do the custom ROM thing with my Android devices but on the TF, I don't like the fact that unlocking voids the warranty. Given ASUS recent history with Android tablets and the weak development scene, it strikes me as not worth the risk at this time. Root is sufficient for me right now.
I will probably unlock it next year after the warranty is up.
unlock when you have a need or desire, ie reason, to. Basically, have a reason to flash to something. Otherwise, root will be sufficient.
That's basically me right now.
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unlock when you have a need or desire, ie reason, to. Basically, have a reason to flash to something. Otherwise, root will be sufficient.
That's basically me right now.
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what can i do with root? i havent done anything to it yet and im rooted. Any tips?
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hit173 said:
what can i do with root? i havent done anything to it yet and im rooted. Any tips?
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Yes, read the forum
Boes40 said:
Yes, read the forum
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nothing really good in the forums well at least for only rooted devices.
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what can i do with root? i havent done anything to it yet and im rooted. Any tips?
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The couple things I have done in the past with root.
1. Browser2Ram
Improves browser performance. This is as simple as installing the browser2ram.apk and reboot, then simply give superuser access. I use boat browser and to be honest, not sure if I gain much performance on it, but feels a bit faster.
Here is the thread: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...5-fix-browser-not-responding-browser2ram.html
2. Build.prop editing
I have done this in the past with my old two units. I felt things got a bit faster. Though uncertain if related, but after the build.prop editing I had couple episodes of random reboot, which I had never experienced. So my current unit, I have not changed build.prop and have not had any random reboot.
But if you are interested, this is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160
3. Volume
If you feel the volume out put is weak even at max, you can download applications that allow to boost volume beyond the maximum. I personally haven't done this.
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what can i do with root? i havent done anything to it yet and im rooted. Any tips?
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The couple things I have done in the past with root.
1. Browser2Ram
Improves browser performance. This is as simple as installing the browser2ram.apk and reboot, then simply give superuser access. I use boat browser and to be honest, not sure if I gain much performance on it, but feels a bit faster.
Here is the thread: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...5-fix-browser-not-responding-browser2ram.html
2. Build.prop editing
I have done this in the past with my old two units. I felt things got a bit faster. Though uncertain if related, but after the build.prop editing I had couple episodes of random reboot, which I had never experienced. So my current unit, I have not changed build.prop and have not had any random reboot.
But if you are interested, this is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160
3. Volume
If you feel the volume out put is weak even at max, you can download applications that allow to boost volume beyond the maximum. I personally haven't done this.
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Further, using Titanium backup you can create and restore backups of all your apps and system data. Moving apps to be system apps so they work better. Ie maybe it was a bug but if you use the beautiful widgets weather (asus weather is waayy to big) and click one click clean it wont open on next click. pushing to system fixed it.
If you like gaming check out gameCIH the app. (Look for it in the browser, I don't wanna link and get in some sorta trouble) This app once you know how to use it allows you to cheat on games lol. Some games when they update are designed to trick the app so if you backup with Titanium use cheats then back up again go into the market and select update it usually pulls over. ie Heroes Call money for example
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nothing really good in the forums well at least for only rooted devices.
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Did you read this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1758160&highlight=bloatware
thanks guys for all the info. i did do the browser to ram but i didnt really notice a difference on boat, but my chrome started to fc on me. The build prop its hard to do at the moment since i dont have much time on my hands, ill be glad if someone can post a tweak build prop that i can just download.
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Why root? First Titanium Backup. Two, BusyBox.
These things or using ADB or Android's SKU, you can remove bloatware or other ware you don't want. Currently, i would suggest just freezing them unless you know how to pull or add with ADB incase you need to factor reset because it may case problem if you do a factory reset.
After that, it's more what you're into. I like Sixaxis Controller. It's a really good app to let you use a PS3 controller with some games. Great with emulators. It also lets you map out touch controls. On a side note, Wiimote works well too, but it's uses a Wiimote and doesn't requite root, but not touch control mapping for games not programmed for a controller.
If you like to get apps not available in the US such as BBC iPlayer or NFL Game Pass, MarketEnabler. You can also use to this to get apps that are specific to carriers
RootKeeper is another good one. This will let you play Google Play movies since they don't, usually, play on rooted devices.
Screencast is an excellent screen capture and screen recorder.
Rooting itself unlocks a lot. Just depends on how you like play. Unlocking, that's for the bootloader and recovery, which would be specific for nandroid backups and flashing. Thus, were talking custom firmware, kernals and some custom scripts (these is usually where unlocking features that are build in, but not turned on for some reason). As of yet, the TF700T is very limited in these things.
Unlock... THEN ask what it's good for... THAT's the noob way!
Dude, you are doing it bass akwards. You rooted, and now are looking to see what you can do, then you want to unlock, "just because" I had the Prime for 7 months before I unlocked it and only did it then because I was backed into a corner, with Asus refusing to provide fixes anyone (we went 3 months with no updates, and then they pushed out the worst update of any they had ever provided.) THAT was when I unlocked, and 3 weeks later I regretted it. there was only a couple of ROMS (the ONLY reason to unlock if for a custom rom install) and they were all, just okay, nothing spectacular. Biggest mistake I made on the Prime. Granted there are ALREADY more roms out for Infinity, but the grass AIN'T always greener. I suggest you read THE ENTIRE THREAD for EVERY custom ROM for this device (or at least the ones you think sound worthwhile) THEN, after seeing all the BS those folks are going through (or all the joy they are having... there are ALWAYS pluses and minuses) you can decide to unlock or not. remember YOU CAN unroot. Unlocking is a one way street, and if you go into a bad neighborhood, here is no return trip.
Why people are always in a rush to root and unlock, without even knowing why they are doing these things is always a mystery to me. You are exactly the type of user that ends up crying in these forums how you briked your device. SLOW THE HELL DOWN. There is no magic bullet to make your tablet perfect. Time, and reason and logic and LEARNING are what will make you tablet perfect.
EDIT... Oh yeah, do you realize that if you unlock you won't BE GETTING JELLY BEAN? No from Asus, and not OTA. You will have to wait for a developer to pull it and make it flash-able for your unlocked tablet. Unlocked means no OTA updates again. EVER. Not that the developers aren't awesome, they are, but you will have burned your Asus bridge once and for all. Still "on the verge" of unlocking? Listen, I am sorry to be harsh, but the way you want to unlock is just wrong on so manly levels, if I saved you from yourself, you may be glad later. Don't forget, sine you are rooted, if you want to KEEP root, get Voodoo OTA Root Keeper (on Play Store) - and you have to run it BEFORE applying an OTA - not after if you want to keep root through an OTA update.
I'm sorry, but I tend to disagree with the above poster in most respects. The difference between stock ICS on the TF700 and Zeus 4.0 ROM on the TF700 is reason enough to unlock your device. Regarding voiding the Asus warranty - so what - from what I've read about their warranty service, it's almost useless anyway! My recommendation to anyone who unlocks their device is to get a SqureTrade warranty instead of dealing with Asus' piss-poor warranty service. This way you are covered with warranty and get the advantages of being unlocked. For the $80 (with coupon) for a 2 year standard + accidental damage warranty, you simply can't go wrong - it gives you complete peace of mind.
That being said, I do agree that you need to be careful and make sure you understand what you are doing before you unlock. But, it's not hard or complicated to unlock or flash custom ROMs - just read up and ask questions first if you are not sure of something and you'll be fine.
Regarding not getting Jelly Bean via OTA - it's not a big deal at all - there will be flashable JB-based ROMs within a day or two of JB being released (if not sooner).
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jtrosky said:
I'm sorry, but I tend to disagree with the above poster in most respects. The difference between stock ICS on the TF700 and Zeus 4.0 ROM on the TF700 is reason enough to unlock your device. Regarding voiding the Asus warranty - so what - from what I've read about their warranty service, it's almost useless anyway! My recommendation to anyone who unlocks their device is to get a SqureTrade warranty instead of dealing with Asus' piss-poor warranty service. This way you are covered with warranty and get the advantages of being unlocked. For the $80 (with coupon) for a 2 year standard + accidental damage warranty, you simply can't go wrong - it gives you complete peace of mind.
That being said, I do agree that you need to be careful and make sure you understand what you are doing before you unlock. But, it's not hard or complicated to unlock or flash custom ROMs - just read up and ask questions first if you are not sure of something and you'll be fine.
Regarding not getting Jelly Bean via OTA - it's not a big deal at all - there will be flashable JB-based ROMs within a day or two of JB being released (if not sooner).
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^ What he said
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Yeah I have been doing my research n I decided to wait for jb. If jb doesn't cut for me, I'll be unlocking and getting that square trade warranty.
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hit173 said:
Yeah I have been doing my research n I decided to wait for jb. If jb doesn't cut for me, I'll be unlocking and getting that square trade warranty.
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Just keep in mind that you can only get the SquareTrade warranty for up to 90 days after purchasing the tablet (30 days if purchased on Ebay).
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jtrosky said:
Just keep in mind that you can only get the SquareTrade warranty for up to 90 days after purchasing the tablet (30 days if purchased on Ebay).
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what about bestbuy? i bought the 21st of july when it 1st came out.
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hit173 said:
what about bestbuy? i bought the 21st of july when it 1st came out.
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With Best Buy (or any retail store) you have 90 days from the date of purchase - so you have *approximately* until October 21st....
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I prefer to only root usually if I.can but Zeus is exponentially better than even a system-tuner-tweaked stock. I got constant crashes on stock and I/o problems were rampant. Voided my warranty but I can just flip it on eBay or send it in anyways if push comes to shove.
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Sorry can't remember the exact naming of it. Though I know many programs (games) don't seem to be on the market for our lovely tablet. Though there is this thing called a Nexus 7 that gets basically all the ones we don't. Would it be beneficial and not cause any other issues that is, to change the ID so the market place reads this as a Nexus 7?
Curious if anyone else has done this long term.
Dont know how to, someone else probably does, but just a warning:
The Nexus 7 has a 1280x800 resolution, which is almost half that of the Infinity. Meaning, even if you buy a game that *does* support Full-HD, you'll still be given the half-HD resolution, as that's what it thinks your device has.
The resolution is also the reason apps aren't available for the TF700. Lazy developers syndrome, it's called.
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ShadowLea said:
Dont know how to, someone else probably does, but just a warning:
The Nexus 7 has a 1280x800 resolution, which is almost half that of the Infinity. Meaning, even if you buy a game that *does* support Full-HD, you'll still be given the half-HD resolution, as that's what it thinks your device has.
The resolution is also the reason apps aren't available for the TF700. Lazy developers syndrome, it's called.
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I think what is that you can get a lot of the unsupported apps through Amazon... Especially EA titles and they work fine. I think developers are unsure if they support it so they assume they didn't. Not sure it's being lazy as much as uninformed.
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I think what is that you can get a lot of the unsupported apps through Amazon... Especially EA titles and they work fine. I think developers are unsure if they support it so they assume they didn't. Not sure it's being lazy as much as uninformed.
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Not bothering to test or research counts as lazy Just ask any student.
And that's the thing indeed, most of the 'incompatible' apps and games work perfectly well. I'm running several dozen and haven't had a single issue. :fingers-crossed:
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Not bothering to test or research counts as lazy Just ask any student.
And that's the thing indeed, most of the 'incompatible' apps and games work perfectly well. I'm running several dozen and haven't had a single issue. :fingers-crossed:
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Exactly I got apps that do work...
Wild Blood is example of one of them. Though instead of using a crappy cracked or hacked version to get it to work properly I'd like to use it normally. Hence why I know you can modify the build.prop file (found the proper name finally) but curious if anyone has done it.
Nexus 7 is probably the closest to similar as it gets for tablets. Just curious if someones done it more on a long term basis. I'd just like to switch it once and forget about it basically.
I've tried this and it doesn't work. Google are clever and are working out the device from somewhere else.
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I've tried this and it doesn't work. Google are clever and are working out the device from somewhere else.
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Grr bloody hell. Thanks for that info sbdags.
Guess I'll be using my phone for the updated APK's still.
What always perplexed me was that running cm10.1 I get significantly more games showing up in the market. I tried playing with the build.prop but could never figure out what it was. May be worth looking into again. I
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What always perplexed me was that running cm10.1 I get significantly more games showing up in the market. I tried playing with the build.prop but could never figure out what it was. May be worth looking into again. I
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Well thats some interesting information. Curious to what would make it different now myself.
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Likely the kernel is different. I suspect that has something to do with it.
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Likely the kernel is different. I suspect that has something to do with it.
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http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-in...-from-android-market-for-unsupported-devices/
I want to use this trick in my galaxy tab 2 p3113 by making it appear like the Nexus 7 tab. But I do not know what the values are for the Nexus 7 tab!!