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Hi,
Today I was using GPS app - HTC Locations. In about 45 minutes battery went down from 100% to 50% (I noticed that using satellite GPS makes the phone very hot) and I decided to connect a charger that I have bought recently - HTC CC-C200 car charger.
The problem was... the battery was still being discharged!
I turned off the nav app and left only basic system apps and the phone was charging only about 5 percent in 30 minutes. Keeping in mind how fast the phone was discharging using navigation, it is simple that the car charger won't do.
Anybody else has this problem? How can I actually use a navigation??
is it the official car charger from t-mobile.
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It is original HTC's car charger - CC-C200
One question - can an USB extension cord (plug in to this original HTC's charger and then original HTC USB cable to this cord) decrease the speed of charging?
Car chargers will always charge slower. 12v vs. 110v.
hah2110 said:
Car chargers will always charge slower. 12v vs. 110v.
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Are u sure that the 110V network adapter, charge the phone with 110 volts ?
The 110V charger:
HTC New Slim Design AC Adapter TC E250 (with EU Plug Unit + micro USB Cable, 5V/1A
and the car charger:
HTC Generic Car Charger with USB/micUSB Cable CC C200 (1A/5V)
have SAME charge power: 1A at 5Vm that is 5W.
The PC USB ports are rated at 500mA, but if u check the port with digital multimeter (cut the cable and put Ampere-meter) u can see that u can drain ~700-800mA , Asus and SuperMicro Motherboard tested from me
@EniHS if u make the lenght of the cable bigger the electrical resistance grow too . I think that 1 meter more wont be such a problem, but if u really wanna check how this will change the power of charge u need to measure it with Ampere-meter
This is an easy one... I try to never get the charger from the store because it (usually) won't put out enough juice to keep up.
I found that if use the same current for charging my ipad, it works much better and can keep up. With that in mind, you can purchase any charger with a 2 Amp output (10 watts) that has a generic USB connector. Try the search "10 watt usb car charger" on Google or Amazon.
Get the free app "juice plotter," which will plot your battery usage and charge. If you're plugged in and the plot is still going down, then the drain is still greater than the charge, and you'll need a better charger. Good luck!
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jdmarko said:
This is an easy one... I try to never get the charger from the store because it (usually) won't put out enough juice to keep up.
I found that if use the same current for charging my ipad, it works much better and can keep up. With that in mind, you can purchase any charger with a 2 Amp output (10 watts) that has a generic USB connector. Try the search "10 watt usb car charger" on Google or Amazon.
Get the free app "juice plotter," which will plot your battery usage and charge. If you're plugged in and the plot is still going down, then the drain is still greater than the charge, and you'll need a better charger. Good luck!
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That would be a solution. I'll buy 2A 5V charger. I assume that I should only replace the plug and the USB cable can be left from original HTC car charger?
Isn't it dangerous for the phone to charge by 2A instead of 1A (original charger)? Or the only difference is the charging speed?
Solved!
I did some tests today and discovered that if I charge the phone normally (no program running, GPS off) with HTC car charger WITH extension USB cable... phone was charging 1% in 25 minutes!!! That would be over 40 hours to charge the device from zero to full! I thought I had charger broken, but... I tried with NO EXTENSION CABLE, just the HTC plug and HTC cable, then the phone was charging normally 1% in 2 minutes!
So... the problem are extension cables, but still don't know why...
I noticed this even with wall chargers. Yesterday when I bought my phone, I plugged it in to my old charger & noticed it was charging slow. Once I switched to the charger that came with my Sensation, it charges normally now. I haven't looked at the chargers to compare if something is different but it is very strange
Isn't strange at all, it's essentially that they are not being supplied a great enough charge and so power from the battery is utilised in addition. ideally you want above 700mAh for standard charging/use.
Hello,
my battery charger stopped working and i need a new one. I read a few review and i'm a bit confuesd, not every chargers with the capability to deliver 1000mAh works with every device. So which one oft them works with the desire s and delivers 1000mAh and not just 500mAh?
just buy a oem wall charger ,, easily found on ebay and also cheap
does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
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does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
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I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
MatthewJoe said:
I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
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same here
Overheating
im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
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im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
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no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
Talha7866 said:
no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
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Double that. Overheating can be only caused by the phone itself, or a defected battery (means it is near death, but for serius heating, you will notice like 1hrs of battery life for the phone).
On another note for the topic. I use 3 type of chargers for my phones:
At home my ASUS tab's one (which is rated 5V 1A at the standard USB, plus the extra for the dock, but it is ASUS specific), at work an old ZTE "dumbphone" charger (which is rated 5V 0.75A, and is a high frequency switching type, so really energy-efficient) and for any other my old SE X8's one, which is 5V 650mA (which is also switching type). Also dedicated charger cables, 1 nokia, 1 SE, 1 HTC and 1 ZTE at my car.
The phone's original 5V 1A is NRFB at the box of the phone, but I have a security backup Samsung charger (rated 5V 500mA and pass-trough type, so not really efficient, but stable) which works just fine. The S is not capable (or not enabled just yet) of fast charge mode AFAIK so no really chance for 500mA or more when charging (even when GPS and 3G on, and screen on max, which is aroung 430mA when I last measued it with a service cable).
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yeah i can confirm it was the 2 year old htc battery
i am now using 2 anker 1600mah batterys and they last a LOT longer + come with an enternal charger so i always have one charged, it also charges the old htc battery too externally so i can now use 3 battieries mwahahahaa
note i did have to delete battery stats in cwm to recalibrate
Has anyone managed to get a car charger for this phone?
I've just tried to charge the phone with my car charger modded to "AC" mode by shorting the middle pins... and the S4 gets nada...
Have they changed the charging mechanics?
Is that what's going on? I was wondering what the heck was wrong with my charger!
Yup, the car charger still charges my old HTC, even with the Samsung cable... so there's definitely something different inside the charger...
I have a 2A usb car charger with generic cable to charge my devices. It's nothing special, but it works with my S4. Hope that helps.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=2
I have this charger and it charges my GS4. Of course, I bought it 2 years ago.
EDIT: I guess it helps when I paste the link. Duh... http://www.amazon.com/Verizon-Vehicle-Charger-USB-Port/dp/B003NA0658
I have a 500mA car charger and it didn't work. Even though it worked on my Xperia Z. I bought a 2A charger from Maplin and it works just fine.
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moobieboobie said:
I have a 2A usb car charger with generic cable to charge my devices. It's nothing special, but it works with my S4. Hope that helps.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10826&cs_id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=2
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I also have the same charger works just fine.
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Hmmm will have to look into getting a decent 2A charger then and NOT modifying it...
So I opened up my car charger and un-modded it back to original and it works like a charm now
I've got a 1A Belkin car charger and it seems to overload after a while when charging my gs4.
The green light on it blinks and my phone makes that sound when you plug in the charger.
Takes a while for it to happen but gets more frequent the longer you have it plugged in.
The charger works fine with my gf's nexus 4.
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I've got a 1A Belkin car charger and it seems to overload after a while when charging my gs4.
The green light on it blinks and my phone makes that sound when you plug in the charger.
Takes a while for it to happen but gets more frequent the longer you have it plugged in.
The charger works fine with my gf's nexus 4.
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I'm using the Motorola charger (big blue circle). Got it for my Razr Maxx a year or so ago (I've gone through like 4 phones since then) and it works wonderfully. It's the best micro-USB car charger I've ever seen. Coiled cord, huge blue light (but not too bright since it's an ambient-style light), and charges quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
Seriously, the best car charger I've ever owned. 950mA is also one of the highest car chargers I've used.
I used to have that same motorola charger but I just switched to this one by SPIGEN: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069EGLFY/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It charges at the same amperage as the stock wall charger that came with the S4. I use the Galaxy Charging Current app to check.
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I used to have that same motorola charger but I just switched to this one by SPIGEN: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069EGLFY/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It charges at the same amperage as the stock wall charger that came with the S4. I use the Galaxy Charging Current app to check.
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really 1900mAh??
if you say "yes" i'll order one
5280WRX said:
I used to have that same motorola charger but I just switched to this one by SPIGEN: ...
It charges at the same amperage as the stock wall charger that came with the S4. I use the Galaxy Charging Current app to check.
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Do you use it with the original cable or a generic one? I read that there are some differences in charging amount using also different cables. This SPIGEN Car charger looks very interesting. Thanks!
TrueTenacity said:
Has anyone managed to get a car charger for this phone?
I've just tried to charge the phone with my car charger modded to "AC" mode by shorting the middle pins... and the S4 gets nada...
Have they changed the charging mechanics?
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I have tired a few most only charged at 400-500 m-amps (aka running with gps and screen on discharged it faster then it was charging) with some random picks at fry's i found one that was marked 3 amp charger that whould do 780 m-amps so the phone still makes head way chargeing while being used as GPS
FYI the tool i use to measure says the Samsung charger is 1900 M-amps and my apple ipad charging brink is 1400 just for reference.
tool is Galaxy Charging Current Lite i would link it but the forum will not let me
Trueglich said:
I have tired a few most only charged at 400-500 m-amps (aka running with gps and screen on discharged it faster then it was charging) with some random picks at fry's i found one that was marked 3 amp charger that whould do 780 m-amps so the phone still makes head way chargeing while being used as GPS
FYI the tool i use to measure says the Samsung charger is 1900 M-amps and my apple ipad charging brink is 1400 just for reference.
tool is Galaxy Charging Current Lite i would link it but the forum will not let me
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You can also use elixir 2, the battery stats will give amps while discharging and change when charging. I think it uses the current_now as reference.
I have a 2a usb car charger and I just use the usb cable from the phone. I bought the car charger from best buy.
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fabian_b_m said:
Do you use it with the original cable or a generic one? I read that there are some differences in charging amount using also different cables. This SPIGEN Car charger looks very interesting. Thanks!
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Different USB cables do pass different current even if using the same charging main. From tests I've done so far, a generic 3 ft USB 2.0 cable I randomly purchased online only allowed around 400 mA. An old Blackberry Torch 9810 cable allowed around 1200 mA. Original cable that came with the S4 allows 1900 mA. These numbers are from using the original wall charger main that came with phone.
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I bought an anker car charger and mediabridge charging usb cable and it's a great combo. The images of the anker car charger is different, should be dual usb ports.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-2-4A-2...=1375543576&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+car+charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009W34X1I/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I don't know the exact current I'm getting, but from the battery monitor widget app, I'm seeing at least 1amp or higher of positive current.
Anyome using a 2A charger instead of a turbo charger?
Like a samsung 2A charger
Or a 2A power bank?
Any issues?
Because 1150 mah is too slow
I was also wondering this.I tried it with my 2,4a ipad charger once and it was charging twice as fast, but i dont know if this is good for the phone. Using the normal charger again to be sure.
With normal 1.2A charger, it takes almost 3+ hours for my phone to fully charge. I used my Galaxy Note 10 charger which is 2A and it got charged in 2 hours. I read it in the forums that even with 2A charger, we cant take the advantage of turbo charging as it will need a charger of 2.4A.
I dont know how 0.4A will make a difference but still, my knowledge is limited in this case and wouldnt want to comment on it.
The charger has to be Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified (that's a specification) to take advantage of the turbo charge mode. The amps put out by the charger is kind of secondary in this situation as the charger and phone both need to be "talking on the same page" i.e. QC 2.0
At that point (charger is QC 2.0) the special circuitry kicks in and goes into turbo mode. So its a little more involved than just throwing more amps at the phone. If you google Qualcomm QC 2.0 specification then it will give you a better idea of what it is all about.
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Turbo charging steps up to 9v and 12v depending on what wattage the phone can handle.
I think our phones are 15w and the Style is 20w or so.
I can't get my phone to charge faster with a 2amp charger though, only my turbo charger.
I used digitech 2.4amp charge ans works like a charm superb....
It isn't causing any issues? Like battery degradation?
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I've been using my Moto turbo charger every night for a couple weeks now and haven't noticed any issues. The phone doesn't seem to let the battery get over 35'C when its charging, so I don't imagine it'll damage the battery.
Think I may get a car charger soon, sometimes I forget to charge at night so it'd be cool to get a full charge on the drive in.
Battery will very likely not last as long when doing fast charging always compared to "normal" charges
Any fact to back that claim?
Im using a Belkin 2.1A charger, no problems whatsoever.
So what's conclusion is it safe to use 2a charger without doing damage to battery
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So what's conclusion is it safe to use 2a charger without doing damage to battery
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I'm using a 3a charger and it's fine
You can't harm a battery with a higher amperage output charger. The phone will only consume what it is able to. If the voltage was higher (excluding quick charge adapters) then yes that will do damage, but that's a strange situation as no charger should do that unless it's quick charge.
That being said, on hand I do have a feeling that quick charge can actually do long term damage if used a lot but on the other hand, it seems to limit the maximum temperature to around 38'C. Above 40'C can cause irreversible damage to the cell. I'm using a car charger now and when the phone is in use, it gets up to around 38 or 39 and it cuts back on the charging current.
Interesting article explaining Qualcomm, fast charge, turbo charge using all the same technique under different names. They all use the same Qualcomm technique.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
Hi guys.
My charger which came with the phone doesn't really work now so I want to buy a new charger. I just wanted to ask if can buy Samsung EP-TA12E black charger which has 2A output, because the original charger has only 1A output. So will my phone just charge faster or it can damage my battery?
Thanks for your reply.
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No, it won't damage the battery. It will charge faster than before (when using a damaged charger) but only to the maximum current (i.e. charging speed) the system allows.
You just can't buy a charger with less than 1A because it won't be able to feed the battery and therefore can get too hot and even melt or fire up.
Okey, thanks a lot for your help
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