I saw this over on the on the S3 forums and so I decided to spread the word also. I, along with many others, are sick and tired of carriers taking control of our devices. We pay for it, it's ours. Anyways, here's the link:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/force-cellular-carriers-allow-us-install-google-wallet-and-use-feature-all-google-nfc-devices/ZdBQqZgH
Mods, I apologize in advanced if this perhaps belongs in the Themes and Apps section. I'm just trying to spread the word.
I've signed, have you?
signed.
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Signed, and had this been posted in all the other forums? Note 2, xda general and such. There are a lot of signatures needed, and only in the next two weeks.
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Signed, and had this been posted in all the other forums? Note 2, xda general and such. There are a lot of signatures needed, and only in the next two weeks.
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I have no idea. But there's no harm in spreading the word :good:
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MikeC4510 said:
I saw this over on the on the S3 forums and so I decided to spread the word also. I, along with many others, are sick and tired of carriers taking control of our devices. We pay for it, it's ours. Anyways, here's the link:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/force-cellular-carriers-allow-us-install-google-wallet-and-use-feature-all-google-nfc-devices/ZdBQqZgH
Mods, I apologize in advanced if this perhaps belongs in the Themes and Apps section. I'm just trying to spread the word.
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I want this for Canadian carriers as well.
Would totally sign this if I didn't have to give the whitehouse all my info and create an account, I know they know everything anyway, but still. I'm definitely for this though.
Signed.
Would sign but don't wasn't to make an account
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Signed, but to be completely honest, WH.gov is a total joke (just like our commander in chief, but that's getting too political for this thread)
My point about it being a joke is that there are tons of great petitions on there, lots revolving around specific things I feel very strongly about, like this one in particular.... the issue is that about a month or two after you sign it, you'll get an "official response" from some WH official, and it will be in this exact format:
We disagree and agree on a lot of points...... You said X, we agree with X, we've always stood by X and here's a worthless link proving it (link), but we want to make sure that X doesn't ever lead to Y, which is why we believe in Y, Y is vastly different from X, although they are one in the same...... Thank you for your signature on this petition, it's reasons like this why we created this because we're always trying to worth together, even though there's no such thing as bipartisanship in politics anymore......
and I'm done with my rant for the night, but yes, great petition, unfortunately won't go anywhere because the site is a joke
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Signed, but to be completely honest, WH.gov is a total joke (just like our commander in chief, but that's getting too political for this thread)
My point about it being a joke is that there are tons of great petitions on there, lots revolving around specific things I feel very strongly about, like this one in particular.... the issue is that about a month or two after you sign it, you'll get an "official response" from some WH official, and it will be in this exact format:
We disagree and agree on a lot of points...... You said X, we agree with X, we've always stood by X and here's a worthless link proving it (link), but we want to make sure that X doesn't ever lead to Y, which is why we believe in Y, Y is vastly different from X, although they are one in the same...... Thank you for your signature on this petition, it's reasons like this why we created this because we're always trying to worth together, even though there's no such thing as bipartisanship in politics anymore......
and I'm done with my rant for the night, but yes, great petition, unfortunately won't go anywhere because the site is a joke
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I concur completely. But if we were to somehow achieve 250k signatures, it'd be a lot more known to people about this technology and monarchy that our carriers are. If it were to become a hot topic, the next step would be to get a senator to propose a bill/law or something. I know it's a long excursion, but it'd truly be awesome....
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I signed a while back. I don't expect anything, it's just the premise of it. It's like going to bob's Chevrolet to find the model you want doesn't come with the latest greatest bluetooth connection. Bob's Chevrolet has money invested in minidiscs, so when you buy a car from Bob you have to use minidiscs because bob says they're better.
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Signed kinda too little time though
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I want to make sure I'm understanding what's all been going on here the past few days:
A dev releases an alpha radio to the community, along with all the usual disclaimers, etc. (Name not used to protect the innocent).
People start flashing this new "alpha" radio.
Some people start to experience very odd issues which does not allow them to even get back to a stock state (like what worked with every other type of phone).
The dev becomes a little concerned - Since the dev released the radio to the community, he feels it is his duty to inform people that it may be a good idea to revert back to a non "alpha" radio release, because this alpha release may make you not be able to use your phone anymore - again this is an "alpha" release, so no telling what could be causing the issue, but since he is a respected member of the dev community, his reputation may be at stake. So he posts here on XDA.
Next thing you know...Pitchforks and torches.
Go figure.
There're pichforks and torches for jcase? Well I guessed I missed something.
Obviously it's not jcases fault, he couldn't predict that for whatever reason 1 in 20-50 phones would die for no reason.
Agree, JCase has had too long of a history being supportive and on the right side of the line and in this community to be at some fault. **** happens and accidents are unpredictable for a reason. Anyone that tries to roast him doesn't appreciate the work and effort these guys spend making our devices a little bit closer to heaven.
At least he warned us before 90% of the community had bricked phones.
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There're pichforks and torches for jcase? Well I guessed I missed something.
Obviously it's not jcases fault, he couldn't predict that for whatever reason 1 in 20-50 phones would die for no reason.
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Id say more like 1 in a few hundred, or even thousand, but agreed. Devs are doing a great job.
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Ya, it still amazes me that people are getting all mad and "demand" to know what, why , who, where, how, when, etc.
I'm just glad there are devs out there who can provide solutions, so that I don't have to try and create my own.
The Dev's Rock!
Yeah people need to understand the inherent risks in flashing things to their phones, even more so when its clearly stated that the leaked GB radio was an ALPHA release.
I have nothing but respect for devs who work hard to make our phones even better than what they already are.
Thanks!!!!
jcase is not to blame... it is the modders who run alpha software knowing it may brick their phones then they have to get mad at someone... rather than looking in the mirror.
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Yah I agree I mean isn't the whole rooting, custom rom an "at your own risk" anyway.. I don't get it but goes with half the crap going on these days.. No self responsibility. You flashed it you risked it..! WTF
I would really like to know why, I'm not asking for it though. I am just curious. Really I just want gb to be working safely again.
Jcase and the others have done nothing but provide excellent updates, service and everything else. I am truly impressed by their level of commitment. As others have mentioned in other threads... People get paid decent cash to do what jcase does for free. Thank you, truly.
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Well, he's got a big ego, that matches his reputation. Some people are irritated by that. But no matter what you think of him personally, he's given a lot to the bolt community and that should be respected.
I thought there were some people on here with childish attitudes. I finally realized why...some of them are....Some are younger than my own kids.
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Is Jcase really taking heat? I mean, come on people, we know going in that we can gank our phones by flashing unapproved stuff on them. We brick, we only have ourselves to blame, simple as that. I for one applaud Jcase for alerting us so quickly to the problem.
What does any of this have to do with an ego?
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What does any of this have to do with an ego?
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The haters of jcase are using this as a reason to hate on him. Not saying it's justified, just where it comes from.
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Right. IMO, if anyone complains about a bricked device, they should be banned. The minute you root your device, the responsibility for bricking lies with you.
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"Innocent " not guilty of crime or offense. These devs keep on giving so much to us and this is how we try to repay them by persecution ,instead of the being " behind you " approach we should stand side by side with them, and after all we all practice freewill by flashing.
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Some people are stupid. Simple as that.
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I never knew who JCase was before the Thunderbolt, but I have to say he is a pretty cool dood, and it is awesome to see Devs getting leaks like he does. Never saw any of this with the Evo 4G. We never got to have new radios/roms of new firmware versions until after then had been out a week or two and devs had gotten a hold of them. Here we have them weeks if not months in advance, and I applaud him, and other devs for that.
And just think, they do this all without expecting anything.
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I haven't really been following the story, so I didn't know a dev was taking heat. Lame. Had my phone ended up bricked, I'd blame myself.
If Apple is forcing Samsung to update the Nexus and remove multi-source search then it's just a matter of time before we all get that update. Don't you think?
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If Apple is forcing Samsung to update the Nexus and remove multi-source search then it's just a matter of time before we all get that update. Don't you think?
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No, it said this only effects the nexus, and Google Now will stay intact. So it should be fine for any non nexus user.
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If Apple is forcing Samsung to update the Nexus and remove multi-source search then it's just a matter of time before we all get that update. Don't you think?
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Absolutely. It's like dominoes. The G-Tab 10.1 and GN are the first to fall. With those victories, Apple's going to rapidly expand the number of devices they go after using Judge Koh’s ruling as ammunition. The G-Tab's a design patent so that's harder to enforce but multi-source search is on every Android device. Judge Koh somehow linked it to Siri but it's really the entire Google search system. It's also kind of related to the HTC ITC issue where a single event provides multiple actions to choose from. This really isn't good for us, Android, and competition in general. I hope Apple rots (no pun intended).
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Absolutely. It's like dominoes. The G-Tab 10.1 and GN are the first to fall. With those victories, Apple's going to rapidly expand the number of devices they go after using Judge Koh’s ruling as ammunition. The G-Tab's a design patent so that's harder to enforce but multi-source search is on every Android device. Judge Koh somehow linked it to Siri but it's really the entire Google search system. It's also kind of related to the HTC ITC issue where a single event provides multiple actions to choose from. This really isn't good for us, Android, and competition in general. I hope Apple rots (no pun intended).
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That's exactly what I'm saying. The Nexus isn't the only Android device that users multi-source search.
I never had a problem with Apple before but they are forcing consumers to buy ONLY their products. Either we can have a crippled phone or an iPhone and that's just wrong.
Btw I didn't know Apple had a patent on Siri.
Goggle kinda shot itself in the foot by not obtaining patents for the stuff they had years before anyone else.
Apple does ****ty business. They take others' ideas and then patent them as their own.
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Double post.
Keep in mind that the ban is only in effect until the actual trial. If this same idiot judge presides over the actual trial and apple wins there's no way it survives appeal. That's my hope anyway. By the time this gets to trial the gnex will be replaced by the next nexus device.
Keep in mind the ban hasn't actually been seen since apple must post $95 mil for the ban to actually take effect. You can still purchase from the play store.
And you all act like apple has already won. With something this big, there will likely be a large settlement and apple will get its money and Android will make a few tweaks and for the most part still be the same.
Edit: I will eat my own words, it is not available. The 96 million dollars was posted by apple last night to enforce the ban...
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Keep in mind the ban hasn't actually been seen since apple must post $95 mil for the ban to actually take effect. You can still purchase from the play store.
And you all act like apple has already won. With something this big, there will likely be a large settlement and apple will get its money and Android will make a few tweaks and for the most part still be the same.
Edit: I will eat my own words, it is not available. The 96 million dollars was posted by apple last night to enforce the ban...
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Best buy is still selling the Tab 2 10.1
It's banned as well
Apple is worth 500 billion. 95M is chump change to post up thanks to the minions who think their devices are just so fantastic and useful.
Posted from my iPad....haha
The ban only affects the original G-Tab 10.1. All the other sizes and all the "2" devices are still for sale. The GN has been removed from the PlayStore and now says "coming soon." In better news a UK judge through out three of Apple's patent claims against HTC and disqualified a fourth.
Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was the tab 2.
Happy Independence Day....Everyone needs just chill out. Google, Samsung and Apple - all are multi-billion dollar companies looking out after themselves. :laugh:
Enjoy barbeque, salsa-dips and some chilled beers.....
Damn, just bought another Gnex yesterday, glad it still shipped out.
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I'm glad the ban is in place.
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I'm glad the ban is in place.
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I see your sarcasm... I think?
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I see your sarcasm... I think?
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Actually I meant it. Here's the reason. If HTC phones get banned, no one gives a damn. Nothing changes. If Samsung devices get banned all hell will be raised. This is good for android's fight against apple.
I personally don't care about Samsung devices, and have no intention of getting one. Which raises the question, why are all of you so concerned?
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Keep in mind the ban hasn't actually been seen since apple must post $95 mil for the ban to actually take effect. You can still purchase from the play store.
And you all act like apple has already won. With something this big, there will likely be a large settlement and apple will get its money and Android will make a few tweaks and for the most part still be the same.
Edit: I will eat my own words, it is not available. The 96 million dollars was posted by apple last night to enforce the ban...
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What is that money for? Where does it go?
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What is that money for? Where does it go?
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if Apple loses, samsung gets the money to "cover" lost sales
If apple wins, they get the bond back
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Actually I meant it. Here's the reason. If HTC phones get banned, no one gives a damn. Nothing changes. If Samsung devices get banned all hell will be raised. This is good for android's fight against apple.
I personally don't care about Samsung devices, and have no intention of getting one. Which raises the question, why are all of you so concerned?
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Because if Apple wins this then they will most likely come after other or all Android manufacturers.
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If Apple wins and if it sets a legal precedent then be sure that everyone else would have to either pony up or deploy a workaround. The thing is; in software patents, as ridiculous they are - workarounds are easy. The problem happens when Samsung copies the whole design as they did with some variants of original galaxy s. But, by the time courts take a look at the case, the model becomes obsolete and new versions are launched.
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I have some beer and chips left from the Samsung vs Apple case. But I'll buy a new couch for this one!
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/08/18/0647242/google-seeks-us-ban-on-iphones-ipads-macs
Article: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...les-new-patent-case-against-apple-at-itc.html
I really hope Google puts them in their place.
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I like apple products and I doubt that there will ever be a ban on them but..If they lose this it would serve them right for going and suing companies over extremely broad patents
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Time to fight back the apple monster
With crApple's barrage of bogus patent infringement lawsuits, it was only a matter of time before it was going to get ugly with Google firing back. No matter who wins, in the end, we all lose.
I was having a really bad day. I read this and now really good day!
rotten apple, anyways one must admit, it has been doing great in the past few years. their market value tops 600 billion atm！
i once swore never would i buy an apple product to use myself. except someone gives it to me or as gifts to others, too bad most people love it. sad irony.
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I have some beer and chips left from the Samsung vs Apple case. But I'll buy a new couch for this one!
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/08/18/0647242/google-seeks-us-ban-on-iphones-ipads-macs
Article: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...les-new-patent-case-against-apple-at-itc.html
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+1 Go Google!!!!
I really hope apple gets what they deserve after all the unnecessary suing they've been doing -____-
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Agreed, GO GOOGLE!
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Forums for an Android phone supporting Google in their lawsuit pursuits? Who would've guessed?
Although I'm guilty too.
Two words ****ing awesome
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I'm looking forward to see that happening
It'll be fun for the short while it last
Haha, well, taste of own medicine I suppose? But really this needs to stop, it's especially against Google's outlook. Two wrongs don't make a right... Just makes everything even worse than before.
I'm hoping this is to make an example, not to actually get this stuff banned, cause we should be honouring the people who pioneered this whole thing. I mean doesn't taking somebody's 'idea', running with it and then crushing them with it kind of even more douchey than what Apple have been doing lately?
It's the perfect counterclaim though, it could get the whole thing thrown out of court, which would be nice.
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Haha, well, taste of own medicine I suppose? But really this needs to stop, it's especially against Google's outlook. Two wrongs don't make a right... Just makes everything even worse than before.
I'm hoping this is to make an example, not to actually get this stuff banned, cause we should be honouring the people who pioneered this whole thing. I mean doesn't taking somebody's 'idea', running with it and then crushing them with it kind of even more douchey than what Apple have been doing lately?
It's the perfect counterclaim though, it could get the whole thing thrown out of court, which would be nice.
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I completely agree. I think its pointless scooping to there level
Plus there's no chance there getting banned
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I completely agree. I think its pointless scooping to there level
Plus there's no chance there getting banned
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Granted the chances of a ban are slim at best, and stooping down to their lvl is unnecessary, but it feels really really good
Also a good preventive measure, cuz the next thing you know Apple will try suing Alexander Bell for copyright infringement...
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/cyanogenmod-member-goes-rogue-demands-10k-for-domain-20121114/
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/cyanogenmod-member-goes-rogue-demands-10k-for-domain-20121114/
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org
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Interesting, thanks for posting that.
This is really sad to hear
I wonder how this person thought to make money by asking from a non-profit organisation of which he was also a part
Can't deny that's pretty smart of him. Can he even be prosecuted for that? Either way, CM should just open up a donating link to try and get it back.
Looks like it's this guy. I remember his avatar as a moderator SatanR1 on the CM forums.
https://twitter.com/MrADeveci
And here's the note from his own company blog. I love the "don't forget to Digg" at the end...my how the net changes in just 4 years.
Posted By: Ahmet on Aug 24, 2009 in Blog
As a big fan of the CyanogenMod ROM for the Android platform, we decided to create and dedicate this website to the author of the ROM!
This one stop shop website is the place to download the ROM, recovery images, updater, screen shots, wiki and everything CyanogenMod!
We hope you enjoy the website as much as we enjoyed creating and donating it to the author!
Visit : http://www.CyanogenMod.com
Don’t forget to Digg!
http://www.metserve.com/blog/cyanogenmod-com-new-website
.org is a better address for a non profit group anyway, I say let the guy have the .com. It shouldn't take a bunch of techno geeks long to get the word out about the change.
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.org is a better address for a non profit group anyway, I say let the guy have the .com. It shouldn't take a bunch of techno geeks long to get the word out about the change.
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Issue resolved.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/domain-situation-has-been-resolved
It says in initial link that issue was resolved...
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Yeah a non profit project done on most members free time is totally going to be worth 10k. I think the hijacker must have had an epiphany and realised he was just wasting every bodies time
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Yeah a non profit project done on most members free time is totally going to be worth 10k. I think the hijacker must have had an epiphany and realised he was just wasting every bodies time
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I'm not saying I agree with the tactics that were used here (though this whole issue is none of my business), but with the amount of traffic that website generates, advertising revenues alone COULD be well over $10,000 a month. This means the value of the domain is much more than $10,000. Now whether they do make advertising deals or not, is not the point. All I'm saying is people buy domain names all the time for the sole purpose of selling them for profit, so just because we don't like his tactics doesn't mean he was necessarily wrong. He did buy the domain three years ago and whether we like it or not he can sell it if he wants. With all that being said I'm glad to see he's decided to go through with giving control directly to cyanogen himself. Now, all the people that were directly involved in this incident have moved on and accepted the outcome. Why can't we do that as well?
This was posted in another thread but I don't think many people saw it because it didn't have its own thread and a lot of people asked for it to have its own thread. It's been a while and no one else went ahead to make a new thread so I thought I might as well do it.
Here's the link below. Go to it and sign the petition, share with friends and family and all that etc etc.
https://www.change.org/p/federal-co...-circumventing-security-ver?just_created=true
It's pretty unlikely that this will make a difference as they've been doing this for a while with no penalty but its worth a shot. If enough people sign it we could at least get some attention towards this. So for the love of Android (and our hate for Verizon) take a minute and sign this and get as many people to sign it as possible even if your not a Verizon s6 user help some fellow Android users out.
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I'm glad you made a new thread for this. It definitely needs as much attention as it can get.
Instead of creating a petition, wouldnt be better submit a formal complaint with the FCC ? Sorry if this questions has been asked before.
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Instead of creating a petition, wouldnt be better submit a formal complaint with the FCC ? Sorry if this questions has been asked before.
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That sounds like it would be a good idea. Do you know how to do that? The nice thing about change.org is it gets a bunch of people to sign it and back you so there's a greater chance of it being heard. But it there's a way to make a direct complaint that could be better though they may just ignore it.
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Unfortunately I have never submitted a complaint so I dont know the process. This is all i could found : https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us