I have been going back and forth between rltoday and HTC Home. I have issues with both and I like them both. I am currently running the HTC Home plugin.
rltoday Pros:
Highly configurable (if you have time)
very light weight
can use with the hidelogo cab
free
rltoday Cons:
limited user community (for my device)
unable to navigate with five-way
limited native functionality (additional scripts or 3rd party apps needed)
no weather plugin
HTC Home Pros:
Customizable (HTC Home Config)
multi-tabbed
built-in weather
built-in ringer profile selections (with HHC)
launch music player from today screen as well as see what's playing
built-in picture dialer
no 3rd party apps/scripts needed
free
HTC Home Cons:
unable to use hidelogo cab
weather plugin is limited (even with HHC)
profile selections don't always work
a. doesn't vibrate but is silent
b. when the meeting/event is over speaker is turned all the way down
when the clock is touched it launches the time/alarm settings (annoying)
So, what are you running on your today screen and why?
hey too bad nobody is answering to this i would love to know all the cool today plugins there is. Im running the HTC Home plugin and sometimes the cool Pointu interface.
How about you guys ?
I prefer the simple but elegant approach...until something really groundbreaking comes along :
TA Pro: controls LED, and gives quick stats and weather
GoodMobile Messaging Calendar and Mail (also displays sms count)
cLaunch: Three 2xtabs (each tab has 2 wrap rows) with my common apps. I've also modified cLaunch.dll to play nicer with the 240x240 display when in the settings area of the app.
Hidelogo to give a little more real estate
I've also replaced battery.exe with an HTC version that gives a better battery icon and little more display flexibility.
QuickMenu 2.7 to assist with app closing, hibernate, soft reset and additional menu browsing needs.
fTouchflo (last free version) for easier touch navigation
I've replaced the default tahoma.ttf with the one from my XP workstation for a smoother font appearance
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I really like throttle launcher as a replacement for cLaunch, but presently it takes up too much memory and is a little cumbersome to configure on the fly.
PointUI is promising, but needs better hooks into "Good" before I can use it, plus needs more customization options to allow me to get to what I need in a minimum of "clicks" - it's not presently able to give me what my present setup offers me.
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screen captures with PocketScreen" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328627
tmknight said:
I prefer the simple but elegant approach...until something really groundbreaking comes along :
TA Pro: controls LED, and gives quick stats and weather
GoodMobile Messaging Calendar and Mail (also displays sms count)
cLaunch: Three 2xtabs (each tab has 2 wrap rows) with my common apps. I've also modified cLaunch.dll to play nicer with the 240x240 display when in the settings area of the app.
Hidelogo to give a little more real estate
I've also replaced battery.exe with an HTC version that gives a better battery icon and little more display flexibility.
QuickMenu 2.7 to assist with app closing, hibernate, soft reset and additional menu browsing needs.
fTouchflo (last free version) for easier touch navigation
I've replaced the default tahoma.ttf with the one from my XP workstation for a smoother font appearance
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I really like throttle launcher as a replacement for cLaunch, but presently it takes up too much memory and is a little cumbersome to configure on the fly.
PointUI is promising, but needs better hooks into "Good" before I can use it, plus needs more customization options to allow me to get to what I need in a minimum of "clicks" - it's not presently able to give me what my present setup offers me.
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Any screenshots?
My Today screen is settled. I have finalized on HTC Home Plugin. No other plugins on the screen. You will notice that I have the bluetooth and the carrier information hid. This is accomplished with Memaid removing the "active call", and "lookup". This does make some additional challenges like the usage of the talk (green) and end (red buttons) as well as the ringer. These are easily overcome by registry changes. I also employed the HTC Home Customizer to make the background transparent and have the "Vista" icons. Music is being played on the device and only showing in the plug (not title bar) through the use of "wk Task". Also I have the battery icon on the today screen but on other apps the time is displayed. This is a result of HHC as well. You can have the time only always; I chose to have it only away from the Today screen. You will also notice that the left and right softkeys are different. Because I am using the standard Windows Mobile dialer, I can customize these keys. One goes to the mail/messaging and the other goes to my IM program. I am running WM6.1 Lite OS (ROM).
I intend to write a complete document on how to do these customizations. It can be frustrating looking for hours and days piecing things together. WinMob has been a lot more fun for me than Palm (former 650 user).
What other options are out there? Feel free to chime in.
Just added quick menu to the list. It is amazing!
Quickmenu
I have found that this application makes my Treo unresponsive. I noticed that after selecting the application, my phone seems to hang or be very slow. I have uninstalled it until I can figure what is making it unresponsive.
Quickmenu Issue
I have not encountered any performance issues (did you soft reset after install). Here are the settings I have employed:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000003
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001
"BkgroundImage"=""
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Count"=dword:00000006
"Item1"=">\\Windows\\wmplayer.exe"
"Item2"=">\\Program Files\\Navigator\\TomTom Navigator.exe"
"Item3"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\Total Commander\\cecmd.exe"
"Item4"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\RSA SecurID\\RSA_SecurID.exe"
"Item5"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\googlemaps\\googlemaps.exe"
"Item6"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\EsmertecJBed\\jbed.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"CustomProgramFolder"=""
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"SubItems"=hex:\
1a,04,00,01,24,04,00,01,2e,04,00,01
"TopItems"=hex:\
00,04,01,00,fd,03,01,01,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,00,00,02,04,01,00,fc,\
03,00,00,00,00,00,00,06,04,01,01,01,04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,00,00
Well my today screen is running SPB Mobile Shell 2.
Version 2 looks real nice and has some cool animations too.
lew, i sent you a pm, id love to get rid of palm dialer and the att/bt logos while keeping red/green button functionality.
I got what I need installed (memmaid, total commander) i just dont know what to do.
what registry settings did you use to get the green and red phone keys functional again after disabling the carrier/bluetooth icons?
Green/Red Button Functionality
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
Quick Menu
tmknight said:
I have not encountered any performance issues (did you soft reset after install). Here are the settings I have employed:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Display]
"BatteryMode"=dword:00000003
"BkgndCacheMode"=dword:00000001
"BkgroundImage"=""
"BkgroundMode"=dword:00000001
"SelectionAlpha"=dword:00000099
"ShowAppIcon"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskClose"=dword:00000001
"TextColorOnImage"=dword:00e0ffe0
"WindowLeft"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\Exclude]
"Count"=dword:00000006
"Item1"=">\\Windows\\wmplayer.exe"
"Item2"=">\\Program Files\\Navigator\\TomTom Navigator.exe"
"Item3"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\Total Commander\\cecmd.exe"
"Item4"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\RSA SecurID\\RSA_SecurID.exe"
"Item5"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\googlemaps\\googlemaps.exe"
"Item6"=">\\ExtendedROM\\Program Files\\EsmertecJBed\\jbed.exe"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\General]
"AutoEndSyncTask"=dword:00000001
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CacheImageIndex"=dword:00000001
"EnableXButton"=dword:00000000
"LongPressAppIconFunc"=dword:000003f9
"OkKeyEndTask"=dword:00000001
"RegisterHomeKey"=dword:00000001
"ReplaceStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"RightArrowEndTask"=dword:00000001
"TEditWhenEditing"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\AlenSoft\QuickMenu\MenuItems]
"CustomProgramFolder"=""
"CustomProgramMenu"=dword:00000000
"SubItems"=hex:\
1a,04,00,01,24,04,00,01,2e,04,00,01
"TopItems"=hex:\
00,04,01,00,fd,03,01,01,00,00,00,00,d0,07,01,01,00,00,00,00,02,04,01,00,fc,\
03,00,00,00,00,00,00,06,04,01,01,01,04,01,01,f2,03,01,00,00,00,00,00
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Did you install this or did you unzip and launch it? I didn't find an installer (or cab). I will launch it again and reset the device and see if it works.
mobilelew said:
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
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Thanks for the tutorial, but now the red key no longer turns off the screen. Any ideas
Red Button No Longer Turns Off Screen
I too have the same problem with the red button. To aleviate this I have created a button shortcut that allows me to lock the phone by pressing one button. Using QuickMenu, in the options, on the command tab, choose lock from the list and click on create shortcut. You can now assign a button to this to lock the phone. I choose the OK button. So if I press and hold OK, my phone will lock.
By the way, the issue that I was having with QuickMenu was a conflict with CTRL-Pro. After removing it I am now able to use QuickMenu without any problems.
mobilelew said:
Use the following steps to remove the carrier info/bluetooth logo and still use the green/red buttons.
I got rid of the carrier info by way of the removal of "Active Call" and "Dial Lookup" startup items. These were removed using MemMaid. At this point the device will revert to the WinMob dialer. Pressing the green button will launch the dialer and pressing the red button will cause it to go away. However pressing the red button will NOT end a call. You have to press the "End" button on the screen or hangup via your BT device button.
You will need to change the service called "VOL0" to "manual" (MemMaid again).
You will no longer be able to select your ringer in the standard way. You will need to make the change in the registry. HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds is where the change is made. The entries PlmORingTone1, 2 and 3 are the entries for Known Unknown and Roaming calls. You will have to copy and paste (and over-write) the entries from there to "RingTone0", 2 and "RoamingRing0". PlmORingTone1 and RingTone0 are for "Known"callers. You will have to make this change every time you want the ringtone to be different. These steps are not necessary for changing the ringtone of a contact.
You need to remap the device keys. (Backup your device OR copy the values down BEFORE you make any changes if you want to go back!!) Make the following changes in the registry. In HKLM\Security\Phone change the Charmap to "ertdfgxcvzubo" and the Keymap to "ERTDFGXCVZUBO". In HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin change Enabled to "0".
Reset the device
NOTE: These changes are only necessary if you want to use the standard WM6(.1) dialer. Original Values for the Charmap and Keymap entries
Charmap "ertdfgcvbyuio"
Keymap: "ERTDFGCVBYUIO"
Thanks to jcbarren at TreoCentral http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148000
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why not use the "hidelogo.cab" floating around and be done with it? Never had an issue with any soft or hard buttons.
mobilelew said:
Did you install this or did you unzip and launch it? I didn't find an installer (or cab). I will launch it again and reset the device and see if it works.
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I use the executable and DLL's from http://www.alensw.com/attachment/QuickMenu_2.7.rar
I extract to ExtROM and create a shortcut to the EXE in windows\startup.
All the settings are stored in the registry, use total commander or your preferred flavor of reg reader to import/export for backup/restore purposes.
Cheers
why not use the "hidelogo.cab"
The hidelogo.cab causes a reset loop with the HTC Home plugin.
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Here is my home screen. Running WM6.1 Regular Version.
paypalbid said:
Here is my home screen. Running WM6.1 Regular Version.
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What are you using to put the icons on the screen?
mobilelew said:
The hidelogo.cab causes a reset loop with the HTC Home plugin.
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Yes, yes it does - good luck!
I recently started using shapewriter on my Nexus one. Not really sure why it gets a bad wrap since after I got used to it, I can type about twice as fast with fewer errors as using a regular soft keyboard or keyboard replacement which was welcome since I lost my HW G1 keyboard switching to Nexus. And hell it's free and legal. But I had a couple of quick questions in case anybody else on here uses it.
1. Sometimes I want to use the regular android keyboard for apps like terminal, is there a menu key to let me switch to the android keyboard. On the regular keyboard it's just hold down 123 button and switch inputs. I can't seem to find an equivalent in shapewriter unless I go back to the android settings page and shutoff shapewriter manually in there.
2. anyway to set a gesture to launch the voice input stuff since there isn't a voice input shortcut on the keyboard.
Thanks!
~Bryan
I'm looking for a keyboard that has the secondary characters over the primary ones as well as the voice input key.
I didn't like shapewriter and better keyboard seems to be missing the voice input keys.
Like the stock keyboard, but hate having to push a seperate key to get numbers and then again for the letters.
To change the keyboard just hold down on the text field until the menu pops up and select input method
kwan said:
To change the keyboard just hold down on the text field until the menu pops up and select input method
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That is a very useful tip and almost exactly what I need. The one app that tip doesn't seem to work for is terminal, which is the app I mainly need to switch back to the stock keyboard as it is the only one supported. or perhaps I should find a better terminal program.
Though its not as good as the HTC IME keyboard with a Voice to Text, a Long press on '.' will bring up a menu to select punctuation. I just found this out yesterday.
for as long as I've had my phone, which, of course, is as long as I've had it rooted, my messaging app has acted extremely odd.
Using the arrow keys and the back-space key causes strange, and often app-breaking, behavior. it seems to be registering the key presses in at least 2 other areas of the app. it always scrolls to the top of the conversation, it highlights conversations in the main message window, and it highlights options in the menus before I even have them open. it seems that the window that lists the conversations, as well as the options menu, are still listening to key presses, even when I'm writing a text. often, the arrow keys and the back-space key stop working all together until I back out of the text-input and re-open the keyboard. this happens litterally every time i write a text message, which is a lot.
all I want the arrow keys to do when I'm in a text field is move the cursor, not jump the highlight to the send button, not scroll through auto-complete options, not jump to the conversation window and scroll through individual texts, and certainly not control the selection of items in windows and menus that I don't even have open.
Also, when pressing 2 keys in quick succession, it often only registers one, TH, especially. I'd say its just registering the second press as a movement of the first contact point, istead of a second touch, like old laptop track-pads, but this device is more than capable of registering multi-touch. also, if you hold one key, and press another, the letter from the first appears on the second key for a brief second...
I'm using virtuous ville v.1.4.0 stock, but I've installed and uninstalled a couple other keyboard apps, can I re-install the stock ICS keyboard? is it a sense keyboard? is this happening to anyone else with this rom or with the 4.0.3 os?
thanks for your help
-Peter
god I miss my G1... stupid friggin slabs. this was the first, and will be the last phone that I ever buy without a real keyboard. this touch-screen only nonsense is ridiculous. it would be fast if it were possible to be accurate and keys weren't literally touching each other. why can't I tell it how much space I want between the keys, so I press nothing, instead of the wrong key? there would be no haptic feedback so I knew to press it again, and I wouldn't constantly be pressing the shift, space, and num keys, which the auto-correct doesn't account for in the slightest, instead of the A key or any of the bottom row of letters .I'm tired of sacrificing so much functionality just so phones can look slicker and break easier.
Don't know why it fails, sorry.... The stock ICS keyboard is not a sense keyboard, there is one on market looks like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/....android.inputmethod.latin.ice_cream_sandwich
Or you could grab a keyboard from any CM9 or AOKP rom zip file, it's named Latin-IME.apk iirc. The jellybean keyboard is similar but nicer somehow, possible it works on ICS. Also SwiftKey is really good.
Thanks for the suggestions! I do, in fact, have a sense keyboard and I do need arrow keys, which the non-sense keyboards, including the jellybean apk don't seem to have. I still can't fathom why anyone would ever prefer these to a real keyboard and a d-pad... also, the jellybean keyboard still has the same trouble with TH's. has anyone here, who shares my frustration with soft keyboards, found a decent keyboard app?
I wish there were decent quality, mini keyboards, too. Wireless or micro-usb would both work, as I'd probably make a case to hold it with my phone. I've only seen a couple, and they're either too big to be practical, or poor quality.
I apologize for my negative attitude. this is just frustrating, as texting is my main form of communication, and I post to forums from my phone quite often, so typing is important to me.
thanks again
-Peter
This is what SwiftKey 3 looks like if you activate the arrows and the Holo theme... One month trial.
Hello, how useful it is to have Android keys on the external keyboard?
hajime_android said:
Hello, how useful it is to have Android keys on the external keyboard?
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Do you want to control music playing in the background without switching out of the app you're in?
Do you need to immediately jump to email, internet, or your calendar frequently?
Yes for both questions.
For Q1, I think most external keyboards such as the Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810 has volume up and down keys. What is the difference between these volume-control keys and specific Android volume-control keys?
hajime_android said:
What is the difference between these volume-control keys and specific Android volume-control keys?
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I don't know, but I'd guess nothing.
Shaderach said:
I don't know, but I'd guess nothing.
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Nothing is the correct answer, but they do allow you to adjust volume, brightness etc without taking your fingers off the keyboard.
But I think most keyboards (for Mac, for Windows) also allow us to adjust the volume and brightness. So, having an Android keyboard does not make a difference except activating email, calendar, web browser? As the tablet will be placed in a very close distance, one could also use the touch screen to activate them. Can I assign special functions to some keys of non-Android keyboard such as the Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810? That could be very useful.
hajime_android said:
So, having an Android keyboard does not make a difference except activating email, calendar, web browser? As the tablet will be placed in a very close distance, one could also use the touch screen to activate them.
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Not the same. With the hotkeys no matter what you're doing or what app you're using you can open internet, mail, or calendar in ONE button press. Without the hotkeys you need to switch out of your app, swipe to the icon, and hit it. That's three presses minimum. It doesn't sound like a big difference but it is and you'll get used to using them (and annoyed without them) quickly.
So, it is better to get an Android keyboard with Android function keys?
hajime_android said:
But I think most keyboards (for Mac, for Windows) also allow us to adjust the volume and brightness. So, having an Android keyboard does not make a difference except activating email, calendar, web browser? As the tablet will be placed in a very close distance, one could also use the touch screen to activate them. Can I assign special functions to some keys of non-Android keyboard such as the Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810? That could be very useful.
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Shaderach said:
Not the same. With the hotkeys no matter what you're doing or what app you're using you can open internet, mail, or calendar in ONE button press. Without the hotkeys you need to switch out of your app, swipe to the icon, and hit it. That's three presses minimum. It doesn't sound like a big difference but it is and you'll get used to using them (and annoyed without them) quickly.
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Shaderach said:
Do you want to control music playing in the background without switching out of the app you're in?
Do you need to immediately jump to email, internet, or your calendar frequently?
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hajime_android said:
Yes for both questions.
For Q1, I think most external keyboards such as the Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810 has volume up and down keys. What is the difference between these volume-control keys and specific Android volume-control keys?
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External keyboard helper answers any and all questions. Lets you assign hotkeys for android functions and apps and configure them to your preference with hotkeys being activated by hitting control or s ok mething similar. So no a android specific one isnt necessarily better unless you dont want to set something up at all. Which I doubt since your here on xda. I have mine set so key combos open certain apps and one opens up my multiwindow launcher allowing me to launch any app ive added to it as a floating window. Very useful when using a mouse and keyboard
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