Can someone tell me the difference between the two? I've been running AOSP ROMs for some time and don't know what AOKP means. I know it's "Android Open Kang Project" but that's about it. I know that AOSP is different from the manufacturers' skinned versions (TW, Moto, Sense, etc...) but don't know where AOKP falls in the continuum between, say TW vs AOSP.
Thanks in advance for any feedback. I'm interested in playing with AOKP ROMs but want to know what I'm getting into & what to expect.
AOKP is AOSP based.
kang means to use others work and give them the credit they deserve ( i believe)
AOKP is a great rom and has some great features. I think a few different roms use AOKP as a base so there might be some tweaks to AOKP that arent in AOSP.
thats what ive gathered. I dont know how correct all of that is, but its what ive come to undersatnd
Like stated, AOKP is AOSP based. AOKP just has extra tweaks over cm10.1 for.instance. AOSP is Google's base, and any stock android based ROMs are AOSP based. AOKP is just one AOSP ROM.
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Being a kanger is bad, it's like a thief. I guess it's kinda cool to call the rom kang.
But kangging used to have a very negative connotation. No one wants to be a kanger.
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due to the openness of the community here id ont think that its a "bad" thing.
everyone gives credit where its due.
I was just referring to the ones who do not, they get called out as kangers. Not referring to the aokp team or any others.
Used to happen on the droid x, same guy over and over.
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TLDR; AOKP has more settings/options to customize the ROM then most other AOSP ROMS, and -it is an AOSP ROM- and kanging is not at all a bad thing.
AOKP is one ROM, not a type of ROM. (it is an AOSP ROM) The name is a play on words of, you guessed it, AOSP. AOKP is based on Cyanogenmod (the most popular AOSP). I use AOKP, and the main difference is customization. AOKP is much more customizable than most of other AOSP roms, but they would appear mostly the same from a quick glance. And kanging is using someone else's code and either improving it or changing it in some way. Which is not at all negative, AOKP gives all credit where it's due (and doesn't hide it at all, they have banners on their website for other ROMS they've kanged) and often collaborate with other Rom makers. For example, Cyanogenmod collaborated with AOKP to implement something AOKP kanged into Cyanogenmod. But back to the point, the difference is more setting and options withing AOKP, whereas most AOSP roms tend to be simpler.
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What are the differences between these two sources or whatever they are? Still confused what differentiates whitehawkx's AKOP based rom from the Eaglesblood AOSP rom?
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AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
painter_ said:
AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, that cleared up alot.
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That's what i thought thanks for the confirmation
painter_ said:
AOSP = Android open source project.
source from google. Nothing added other then what is needed to make it work on the phone. (drivers)
AOKP = Android open kang project
Close to aosp but with many enhancements added behind what is needed to make it work on the phone.
Cyanogen mod would fall into the same category as AOKP.
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as would all the other ROMs on here? hellfire, eaglesblood? they are made from CM7/9 correct? unless otherwise noted?
dodgefan67 said:
as would all the other ROMs on here? hellfire, eaglesblood? they are made from CM7/9 correct? unless otherwise noted?
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not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
this explains alot
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not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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binded2 said:
this explains alot
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yeah it does, thanks Klathmon!!
thanks alot its so cleared now
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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That's almost true. Even though it's AOSP and all from Google's Android source, they still used CM's source tree because they put everything together. No point in spending an enormous amount of time to put it together yourself if CM already did it. So technically it's still a large portion of CM's work.
ok, i got it...
Klathmon said:
not really, AOKP uses some CM9 stuff, but its definitely a proper ROM on its own.
Any rom that says AOSP in its name is generally Built from google source code, with little to nothing from CM7/9 other than what might be necessary to get things running.
MIUI is another rom that, while built from CM7/9 is VERY different.
ROM's like Hellfire, and others similar to it, are mostly just a proper CM7/9 ROM with tweaks, and small fixes put into it, and more recently (to my annoyance) other kernels too.
Overall, CyanogenMod was probably the greatest thing to happen to android modding as a whole, they provide a base for most things to branch off from (and they don't even complain when everyone and everything uses their source!) The only reason its in everything is because if its something that the user will not see, and it works, why spend the days/weeks/months to develop it when its sitting right on CyanogenMod's GIT.
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Thanx for this information but i need to know more about the layers of the ROM that are there in AOSP and AOKP (i heard this from a friend that AOSP have 7 layers and AOKP has about 10 is that true? and the AOSP makes the interaction easier then that of the AOKP).
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Thanx for this information but i need to know more about the layers of the ROM that are there in AOSP and AOKP (i heard this from a friend that AOSP have 7 layers and AOKP has about 10 is that true? and the AOSP makes the interaction easier then that of the AOKP).
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What do you mean by "layers"?
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I have a nexus 10 that is currently on cm 10.1 and i want to try another rom, and i was wondering if any body could tell me the differances between the current versions of AOKP and paranoid android? Like performance, customization, etc.
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I have a nexus 10 that is currently on cm 10.1 and i want to try another rom, and i was wondering if any body could tell me the differances between the current versions of AOKP and paranoid android? Like performance, customization, etc.
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I can't really talk about paraniod android because I only tried it out briefly once but I have AOKP on my Nexus 10 release and have been thrilled with it. It includes most features from CM10.1 but also includes some awesome customization options. I also have fewer reboots since switching to AOKP.
Look for the AOKP PUB (project unicorn butter) builds. They are great!
I personally like AOKP. Best advice is to flash and try each ROM and find which you prefer for settings and customizations since everyone will always have a different answer of which ROM they like.
Paranoid is better than AOKP
Paranoid is better than AOKP
Haha, and why is that?
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I have heard that
acmilano said:
Paranoid is better than AOKP
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I have heard that before, but never really got much of an explaination as to why.
I've been wanting to give an aosp based Rom a try onthis phone. My main concern is stability and battery life. I know battery life is more of a kernel issue so I will address that later on. I've noticed some roms in original developement don't even specify which android version there based on, but which is currently most stable and 4.2? I need lte calls/sms/mms and camera to be working.
I'm basically looking for what has the LEAST issues. Has any developers gotten past the screen tearing yet?
And I know there are probably 100 of these threads, but none are current
the official cm10.1 by h8rift will usually be the most stable, as a lot of the other ones are based on that (i think). you should basically look for the most recently updated one. that'll have the newest features and latest bugfixes.
you can't go wrong with a bpear ROM, that guy is awesome and has released some of my favorite ROMs for this phone. link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212825
he always updates them quickly and squashes all major bugs. that one is new so it may have some bugs, but i'm sure they won't be there for long. then once he fixes them, you won't have to delete everything and clean wipe and all that, you'll just have to flash over it with the new one.
bugs vary from phone to phone, so the only real way to figure out what you like is to flash them and check
they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
Running liquidsmooth Stable and its great. Using it as a daily driver.
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DvineLord said:
they are all pretty stable other then known issues. screen tearing is a general issue with 4.2.x roms that use cm10.1 as a base. i would say try liquidsmooth, aokp, or carbon bpear96 aosp build.
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Running official 10.1 nightly with vz oc linaro kernel and disable HW overlays on I get ZERO tearing. I put it at standard clock speeds to and its great and very stable. Only time it freezes is every once in a great while after a phone call. Other than that I'm extremely happy.
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I'm running the Bpear CarbonRom 1.6 source build, underclocked to 1134mhz and still running smooth and stable.
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my personal experience
the most stable tend to be the ones that are more popular/bigger like CM 10.1, AOKP, etc.. at least in my experience. Though I personally love jellybam. I highly recommend it especially if you're a person who loves great audio. Though the only kernel that would work it is Rohan's beta as far as I know
There is no "most stable" ROM. Everyone uses their phone differently, and your mileage can and will vary. Same thing with battery life (and probably has as much, if not more to do with other factors, such as your geographic location and radio).
Its easy to look through the ROM threads to see what specific issues people have, known bugs, etc. Aside from that, just pick some that look like they fill your needs/preferences and try them out.
Since every device handles software a little differently, you need to try it out for yourself and see if you like it. Thats the beauty of XDA, you get to try it out yourself and see if YOU like it.
So since everyone has different options, Im going to close this before it becomes a BEST ROM THREAD... and we dont allow those.
We seem to have a great selection of other ROMs, from CM, AOKP, etc. but I never see just an AOSP ROM for this device. It would be great to compare the "Nexus Experience" for the Doubleshot, I think.
Well, technically Cyanogen Mod is the greatest AOSP ROM out there. As far as I know nobody writes anything from the ground up. At least if I understand how everything all goes together. Now, someone may very well use their base code & do all their own coding for add-ons & customizations but I'm not sure who or which ROM you may be talking about. My wife has a Nexus 4 so I have been browsing their forums but that's the way it seems to me.
Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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SEE! I told ya I wasn't sure. LMAO! :laugh:
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Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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I would love to try this, and I've gone far enough to setup everything on my linux box. I got to the point of downloading the source files, and I'm not sure where to go from there. Reason being that I know that most of the phone sensors and components wont work without the proprietary drivers and other required software for the phone. I don't know where to find them, and if I managed to get them, how to integrate them into the source tree. I have looked through the developers reference thread, but not sure whats needed from there to get all the stuff needed.
I think I'm in over my head lol
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We seem to have a great selection of other ROMs, from CM, AOKP, etc. but I never see just an AOSP ROM for this device. It would be great to compare the "Nexus Experience" for the Doubleshot, I think.
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I gotta say, I only just got into the ROM bizness. Was running fully stock, locked GB rom on this phone until a few weeks ago. After some research and lots of reading through these forums I settled on the Unofficial CM 10.1 JB rom here, and absolutely love it. I can't believe what amazing crew of dev's we have here that are bringing new life to this great hardware, but unsupported handset!
Suffice to say it's been my ONLY other experience compared to stock, but I'm using it as a daily driver with nearly no issues, and some have even been fixed since my first flash a few weeks ago. Can't thank this forum enough. Now if only I could post in the development forums without having to make 9 more BS posts I'd be a happy camper!
Ok, so I'm not a tech pro. But molding my gadgets is becoming a hobby. I've learned unlocking and rooting.. I've started flashing ROMs and mods to stock roms.
Now I'm wondering, what's the difference between ROMs like pure AOKP vs ROMs based on other original roms like AOKP?
For example, I'm using Smoothrom on my grouper nexus 7 to boost performance/reduce lag/etc. It is a 4.3 Jellybean ROM based on AOKP. What is the difference v the AOKP ROM? added features baked in? Bugs within Aokp fixed?
This is question is just for knowledge sake, so please don't criticize any biases or wrong assumptions apparent in the language of the question. Please do address any inaccuracies or biases/assumptions that you notice. Like I said, this is just for me to better understand the motivation/benefits/risks/purposes behind roms like AOKP v AOKP Based (slimrom).
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Okay basically everything that's made from scratch or source is pure. Roms that mention they are based on these so called "aosp" "aokp" is pretty much the same thing as the one built from source but its been modified, for example cyanogenmod is built from source, if you download it and modify the ROM, enhance it a bit more, add more features you will have to say it is based on cm as you didn't build it from source or scratch. You used the ROM as a base for your project. Like something you can start from.
Its like a car. A person that owns a car and modifies it, but its based on the original. The original is initially made by scratch. I hope I made sense. Sounded better in my head
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Okay basically everything that's made from scratch or source is pure. Roms that mention they are based on these so called "aosp" "aokp" is pretty much the same thing as the one built from source but its been modified, for example cyanogenmod is built from source, if you download it and modify the ROM, enhance it a bit more, add more features you will have to say it is based on cm as you didn't build it from source or scratch. You used the ROM as a base for your project. Like something you can start from.
Its like a car. A person that owns a car and modifies it, but its based on the original. The original is initially made by scratch. I hope I made sense. Sounded better in my head
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Thank you. Completely makes sense. I guess that's why forums usually have two sections "original development" and Android based development."
Question for anyone:
Are those that are based on something like CM usually and improvement on CM in terms of bugs, etc or is it more just a preference in terms of features?
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yogi217 said:
Thank you. Completely makes sense. I guess that's why forums usually have two sections "original development" and Android based development."
Question for anyone:
Are those that are based on something like CM usually an improvement on CM in terms of bugs, etc or is it more just a preference in terms of features?
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It really depends, some add in more features, some remove features and make is clean. In you way you could say its an improvement but its up to the user as they are the ones that judge it themselves. Some bugs get fixed in the nodded Roms that use cm as base, like I said its all up to the user that mods the ROM. If they want to fix it themselves or wait for a new release.
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It really depends, some add in more features, some remove features and make is clean. In you way you could say its an improvement but its up to the user as they are the ones that judge it themselves. Some bugs get fixed in the nodded Roms that use cm as base, like I said its all up to the user that mods the ROM. If they want to fix it themselves or wait for a new release.
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Thank you. That's what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure. I'm digging this culture. I'm a teacher and interested in independent learning and the support of the online community in mobile software modding and development is very interesting from a learning perspective.
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@yogi217 It actually is quite interesting. I'm sure you'll understand quite a bit about android development in some time. It isn't that hard, just explore and youll come to a point and find out how easy it is. And good luck on your android/mobile development journey!
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