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Hi guys - Great website. I love the amount of information being exchanged here. I am new to the rooting environment, but I am not new to IT. I have an IT career, some entry level programming, SQL scripting, and have modded playstations and xboxes previously so I should be able to follow much of the technical talk.
I just purchased a Samsung Charge and have completed the one click root and have confirmed that I have root on ED1. So my questions are (please link to thread if answered elsewhere):
How do I determine which mod/rom is the best and safest to use? Gummy, Altered beast, etc?
Are any gingerbread based mods out or are they all froyo based for the Charge? What is the newest out and is there a projected release schedule?
How do I get the wireless hot stop working for free once I am rooted? Do I have to install a ROM?
Is the Odin application the best way to update the ROMs?
Is the ROM the OS update and the kernel the BIOS update?
It looks like there is an issue doing backups with Charge Mods, so how do I backup my phone? (it looks like the ability to backup has been removed from some mods)
So I am rooted. What are the next steps I need to follow: 1) Backup (how) 2) install new OS ROM????
Thanks for your time.
DawgPoundMBA said:
Hi guys - Great website. I love the amount of information being exchanged here. I am new to the rooting environment, but I am not new to IT. I have an IT career, some entry level programming, SQL scripting, and have modded playstations and xboxes previously so I should be able to follow much of the technical talk.
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Welcome, you seem like a prime candidate for this adventure!
I just purchased a Samsung Charge and have completed the one click root and have confirmed that I have root on ED1. So my questions are (please link to thread if answered elsewhere):
How do I determine which mod/rom is the best and safest to use? Gummy, Altered beast, etc?
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Pretty much just by reading their threads and seeing what issues people are having. That being said, the Charge ROMs are all pretty new, so safest is to just find a rooted version of stock, which you seem to have accomplished. The other ROMs are trying to improve on things by doing things such as "debloating" (removing useless stuff added by Verizon), etc., but this can have unintended consequences. For instance, with Altered Beast, you'll see he released fixed versions of stock apps which broke.
Are any gingerbread based mods out or are they all froyo based for the Charge? What is the newest out and is there a projected release schedule?
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They're all Froyo for now. I'd guess a Gingerbread version will be out within the next month or so, depending on how many devs are working on it. I think Gummy is slightly newer than Altered Beast, but that could change any second. Actually, the newest at this moment is the OTA (Over The Air) release from Verizon last night, EE4.
How do I get the wireless hot stop working for free once I am rooted? Do I have to install a ROM?
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You just need to install an app. Search the market, or search the forums for what others are using. They're getting a little more difficult to find as Verizon has started blocking some of them from their version of the market.
Is the Odin application the best way to update the ROMs?
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Right now it seems to be. Though once you use that and have CWM (ClockWork Mod) installed, you might be able to update using CWM. Still a little early to tell.
Is the ROM the OS update and the kernel the BIOS update?
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Pretty close. ROM, as we usually use the term, refers to the Boot ROM, which is the first code run, and essentially the O/S, though some ROMs aren't a complete replacement for all of it. The kernel isn't quite as equivalent, but that's true to the extent that it handles communication between the software and the hardware.
It looks like there is an issue doing backups with Charge Mods, so how do I backup my phone? (it looks like the ability to backup has been removed from some mods)
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There's an issue with doing backups through CWM, but you can still use something like Titanium Backup. What do you want to backup? If it's just your software, settings, etc., that should be fine.
So I am rooted. What are the next steps I need to follow: 1) Backup (how) 2) install new OS ROM????
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1) Use alternate software, such as Titanium Backup. 2) Use ODIN for now.
Thanks for your time.
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You're welcome!
I have the ED1 versions rooted with gingerbreak and used root explorer to change the script from ED1 to ED2. Everything is working good and launcher pro is making it look better, but is it safe to load altered beast or other roms using Odin or will it mess it up? I would like to get CWM on it to go straight into bootloader like I did with the Incredible.
The kernel shouldn't be related to a BIOS in a PC, that would be your bootloader. A kernel is part of an Operating system. Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X all have kernels. The kernel, as I understand it, is sort of like the middle man between the software you "see" and the hardware. Drivers are a core part of a kernel, but aren't the only thing in the kernel. A ROM, is the OS, as a kernel is included in any ROM. The ROM will consist of the applications included, be it themed applications or custom built ones, and a kernel.
Keep in mind this is a large generalization of the whole subject, but I think its a good overview.
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I have the ED1 versions rooted with gingerbreak and used root explorer to change the script from ED1 to ED2. Everything is working good and launcher pro is making it look better, but is it safe to load altered beast or other roms using Odin or will it mess it up? I would like to get CWM on it to go straight into bootloader like I did with the Incredible.
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You can use Odin to install Altered Beast and you'll be fine. you might want to wait a couple of days to see what happens with this EE4 release, though.
morkon - good description of the kernel.
not to be a downer, but i wouldnt put any eta's on anything gingerbread related...my overly optimistic guess (based on no inside knowledge) for anything official would be late august...but knowing the vzw/samsung combo (regardless of the droid branding) #gingergate could be on until late Fall/Christmas
Thank you for the information. I will check it out in more detail when I get home from work.
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not to be a downer, but i wouldnt put any eta's on anything gingerbread related...my overly optimistic guess (based on no inside knowledge) for anything official would be late august...but knowing the vzw/samsung combo (regardless of the droid branding) #gingergate could be on until late Fall/Christmas
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I wouldn't really expect an official Samsung Gingerbread ROM until next year. They are incredibly slow. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see an unofficial version well before then.
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I wouldn't really expect an official Samsung Gingerbread ROM until next year. They are incredibly slow. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see an unofficial version well before then.
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Incredibly slow, yet the DROID Charge just received it's 2nd OTA update in 1 month from release, and the Fascinate just got it's 6th/7th OTA update in the past 8 months as well, and as far as I know, the international SGS has had a similar number of updates come out for it as well. The problem isn't Samsung producing the updates (anymore), it's getting the carriers test them and submit feedback in a timely manner.
Given that the SGS line is getting Gingerbread over the summer from most reports I've read, I'd expect the Charge to get Gingerbread sometime late summer/fall, as well as the rest of the US lineup of SGS phones.
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You can use Odin to install Altered Beast and you'll be fine. you might want to wait a couple of days to see what happens with this EE4 release, though.
morkon - good description of the kernel.
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OK, thanks! I have only had it a day and I have not played with ODIN, so it scares me to death. I can say that with one day of trying it, the GPS is horrible! It had me over 2 miles off.
I am not sure why the below happened, but I did soft brick. I restarted the whole process and it is moving along now so please disregard.
Question. I am using Odin to install alteredbeast. I held down the volume key until after i clicked start on the ROM. It has been working for about 5 minutes and on my phone i can see a downloading icon with a "AX_TIMEOUT" in red in the top left. Did I screw up?
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I am not sure why the below happened, but I did soft brick. I restarted the whole process and it is moving along now so please disregard.
Question. I am using Odin to install alteredbeast. I held down the volume key until after i clicked start on the ROM. It has been working for about 5 minutes and on my phone i can see a downloading icon with a "AX_TIMEOUT" in red in the top left. Did I screw up?
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You only have to hold the down volume button for a few seconds, until you get to the yellow downloading screen. Im not sure if that has an effect, but I'd start over. Turn off any antivirus, plug in to your rear USB ports, and try again.
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Incredibly slow, yet the DROID Charge just received it's 2nd OTA update in 1 month from release, and the Fascinate just got it's 6th/7th OTA update in the past 8 months as well, and as far as I know, the international SGS has had a similar number of updates come out for it as well. The problem isn't Samsung producing the updates (anymore), it's getting the carriers test them and submit feedback in a timely manner.
Given that the SGS line is getting Gingerbread over the summer from most reports I've read, I'd expect the Charge to get Gingerbread sometime late summer/fall, as well as the rest of the US lineup of SGS phones.
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They're doing well on the bugfixes, I'll give them that. But with how long we waited for updates for my wife's Epic, I'm not super keen on Samsung's update schedule. They ranked last on the list of manufacturers updating to newer versions of software. That being said, I'm hoping with this as their Verizon flagship they'll stay on top of it.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1818
As the notice says, what will start today "will be a limited pilot for the update" with "a broader rollout to myTouch 4G customers will begin in the coming weeks and will continue through the end of the year." It sounds like a lucky few MT4G owners could get the update today, but the majority will probably have to wait a few weeks, if not months.
I've had Gingerbread on my phone for a long time now.
My phone is rooted through Visionary, will this cause an issue with the OTA update?
You will not receive an OTA update while rooted.
Can someone make a Backup/ROM for new release.
I don't feel like going back to Stock just to get an update.
I updated the radio and phone is rooted. Don't want to have to give up root just to have a peek at this.
vmartinez39 said:
Can someone make a Backup/ROM for new release.
I don't feel like going back to Stock just to get an update.
I updated the radio and phone is rooted. Don't want to have to give up root just to have a peek at this.
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I'm sure one of our amazing devs will have rom for us in a couple days. The devs here are much faster than waiting for an OTA update.
i got my OTA update this morning at 745am central time.
Why do rooted users want an ota? That takes away the point us using xda, just equity for devs to make a better version with more features and fixes.
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Ace42 said:
Why do rooted users want an ota? That takes away the point us using xda, just equity for devs to make a better version with more features and fixes.
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Because sometimes the stock rom is better than the custom built roms. It took a long time for me to find something that was nicer than the stock phone.
For me, a lot of the custom roms are themed in a way that looks terrible to me, and a lot of them just feel inconsistent. The stock MySense that came with the phone was much nicer to use. It wasn't until the Sense 3.0 roms started coming out that it made me actually want to switch away from stock.
I rooted to try new roms, but sometimes, stock is better ( for me at least ).
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Because sometimes the stock rom is better than the custom built roms. It took a long time for me to find something that was nicer than the stock phone.
For me, a lot of the custom roms are themed in a way that looks terrible to me, and a lot of them just feel inconsistent. The stock MySense that came with the phone was much nicer to use. It wasn't until the Sense 3.0 roms started coming out that it made me actually want to switch away from stock.
I rooted to try new roms, but sometimes, stock is better ( for me at least ).
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Then you wait for a stock rooted rom. Usually released in a few days after the official one (however for this update it was out about 2 days ago). If you update OTA you will lose root.
Running stock and rooted, that way I am able to change what I want to or leave it as is and have the ability to run apps requiring root
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Then you wait for a stock rooted rom. Usually released in a few days after the official one (however for this update it was out about 2 days ago). If you update OTA you will lose root.
Running stock and rooted, that way I am able to change what I want to or leave it as is and have the ability to run apps requiring root
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I guess I should have added the caveat that I went with the stock rom but root added. OTA somehow translated to stock with root in my head.
Ace42 said:
Why do rooted users want an ota? That takes away the point us using xda, just equity for devs to make a better version with more features and fixes.
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A lot of the custom roms while faster are buggy. I just upgraded from a Mytouch 3G and this phone is still amazingly fast to me, I don't need the extra speed.
I am not sure what advantages the OTA will have for most of us. The custom ROMs have removed all the bloat and are much faster. Additionally, most everyone running a custom ROM has already been using Gingerbread for months now.
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I am not sure what advantages the OTA will have for most of us. The custom ROMs have removed all the bloat and are much faster. Additionally, most everyone running a custom ROM has already been using Gingerbread for months now.
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SPEED
BUG FREE
STABLE
you can only choose 2.
that's why I rock stock, with root (for screen caps) nothing else. I like mine bug free and stable.
who needs over 1ghz of processor power on a damn phone anyways. seriously.
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SPEED
BUG FREE
STABLE
you can only choose 2.
that's why I rock stock, with root (for screen caps) nothing else. I like mine bug free and stable.
who needs over 1ghz of processor power on a damn phone anyways. seriously.
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I've used many custom roms that are pretty much bug free , and sometimes even stock has bugs, there is no such thing as PERFECT BUG FREE CODE, I've never come across that.
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SPEED
BUG FREE
STABLE
you can only choose 2.
that's why I rock stock, with root (for screen caps) nothing else. I like mine bug free and stable.
who needs over 1ghz of processor power on a damn phone anyways. seriously.
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Custom roms usually have the least bugs compared to stock roms not to mention that we get quicker fixes than what Google and HTC can give us. I'm pretty sure you probably not using the stock kernel. Most kernels bundle with stock are minimal line decent at best. Most of these roms in the mytouch community are bug free.
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Everyone stop bickering..people have their preferences..but someone upload the update! I really wanna see it.
im completely new at android just switched over from apple and i have no idea how this rooting stuff works can some one give me advice as to what i should do i have a mytouch 4g should i wait for this 2.3 update or should put a rom or w.e its called it was so much easier to jailbreak n all lol but this rooting stuff is confusing idk what do lol so if some one can guide me it would b great
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I've had Gingerbread on my phone for a long time now.
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I had stock 2.2 on my original Glacier for about, oh, two hours or so before I got home and rooted/flashed CM7 to it. The power button broke within a month, though, so I unrooted it and switched it out for a new one.
The new one I rooted while waiting for the bus, and flashed CM7 on the bus ride to SF. So this phone has actually only had the stock ROM for less than 20 minutes.
HTCMDA said:
SPEED
BUG FREE
STABLE
you can only choose 2.
that's why I rock stock, with root (for screen caps) nothing else. I like mine bug free and stable.
who needs over 1ghz of processor power on a damn phone anyways. seriously.
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If it's bug-free, wouldn't that also make it stable? Personally I don't need more than 1GHz, but I make a moderate overclock to 1.2GHz in order to reap the benefits of silky-smooth animations and scrolling widgets. App switching is also faster.
I run CM7 nightlies. Occasionally I run into bugs. Very infrequently. The most recent bug I encountered was random soft reboots in nightly #133, which was promptly fixed in nightly #134. Before that, the last bug I found was waaaaay back in 7.0.3 stable, when wifi refused to work properly with faux's AOSP kernel (and this isn't even a CM bug, it was an issue with faux's kernel).
CM7 has been stable enough to be a daily driver since 7.0.0 RC1.
I just received my second hand G2X in mint condition running 2.2. I immediately unlocked it for use in Thailand. So far I can see no screen bleed, no reboots (I've only had it for a few hours) and it seems to be working very well. Since Google updates all the Google apps to be the same ones as Gingerbread, is there any reason to update the phone to Gingerbread at this time? I would have to risk the updater or use the pre-rooted update.zip with the old baseband. I have a feeling this is a preliminary update and another one will be coming later. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
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I just received my second hand G2X in mint condition running 2.2. I immediately unlocked it for use in Thailand. So far I can see no screen bleed, no reboots (I've only had it for a few hours) and it seems to be working very well. Since Google updates all the Google apps to be the same ones as Gingerbread, is there any reason to update the phone to Gingerbread at this time? I would have to risk the updater or use the pre-rooted update.zip with the old baseband. I have a feeling this is a preliminary update and another one will be coming later. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
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I updated mine and If I had no reboots to begin with I probably would have waited until the official final update. You dont need the updated baseband for anything really, you can do just as much and still root froyo.
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I updated mine and If I had no reboots to begin with I probably would have waited until the official final update. You dont need the updated baseband for anything really, you can do just as much and still root froyo.
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Thanks for the input. Already rooted and bloat frozen. The only app I have that won't work is "Boot Control." It has root permission but when I tell it to shutdown the phone it doesn't do anything. Does anyone know a shutdown, reboot app that works on the G2X with rooted Froyo. So far in the five hours I have been testing it out I am quite happy with the amazing speed and graphics. I am migrating from a Nexus One.
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I just received my second hand G2X in mint condition running 2.2. I immediately unlocked it for use in Thailand. So far I can see no screen bleed, no reboots (I've only had it for a few hours) and it seems to be working very well. Since Google updates all the Google apps to be the same ones as Gingerbread, is there any reason to update the phone to Gingerbread at this time? I would have to risk the updater or use the pre-rooted update.zip with the old baseband. I have a feeling this is a preliminary update and another one will be coming later. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
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I have experienced a noticeable increase in battery life. My G2x was great with froyo, and now it is even better with the improved battery life using GB. i used the LG updater and had no issues. It was very easy. I have no idea if the new basebands will help you. Mileage will vary.
I haven't seen or heard about when the OTA ICS updates will resume. Maybe I'm not looking in just the right places, but all of my searches (web & xda) don't have any new information.
Has anybody heard about when the updates will resume? I have the i9020a, but I guess I'm asking more generally.
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What makes you think ICS OTA was stopped ?
I went back to GB for a day 3 weeks ago and the notifiaction to update to ICS keeps coming and annoying me ... One of the causes I revert back to ICS was the annoying update notification...
PS:My phone is I9020T BTW
Just haven't received any notification to update, and all the news I could find said it had been paused a few weeks ago but there was nothing new or recent saying that the pause was done with. At least that I could find.
That's because you have i9020T.
Google haven't release ICS update for I9020A yet.
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That's because you have i9020T.
Google haven't release ICS update for I9020A yet.
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If that's the case, I feel better about the lack of an update. So then it's a waiting game at this point.
Thanks.
i'm on i9023 and even i havent got it.. there hasnt been any news since they stopped the ota.. even am wondering if we'll ever see a official update..
i heard some rumor that Google has stop OTA temporarily due some bug ???
I heard it was because of battery issues. True or not don't know, but im guessing there's probably more to it than that. Been waiting along time for it tho.
Nexus s 4g completely stock. 2-5 fC's a day. Lets get this show on the road.
Well...
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I heard it was because of battery issues. True or not don't know, but im guessing there's probably more to it than that. Been waiting along time for it tho.
Nexus s 4g
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I've been continuing to look around online to see what I could find, and I've stumbled across a seemingly useful thread on the Google Mobile Help Forum. I haven't made 8-10 posts on XDA yet, so I cannot provide an outside link here. I'm sure I could PM it to anybody who asks.
To sum up what I've found, it looks like they're still collecting data about the issues that users are having with the ICS update on the Nexus S. A Google employee provided links on where to report specific issues, which would include the battery issue that you had mentioned.
However, it still doesn't quell any concern about when they're going to have those issues corrected, or how much progress they have made so far.
Why wait ?
Don't wait for the OTA, root your phone and install any one of the amazing choice of developer ICS ROM's to your phone
I chose the ICS version by Peter Alfonso http://download.peteralfonso.com/crespo/rom
(in tandem with Eugene's Speedy Kernel) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401455
and it's brilliant !
Haven't had one FC in three weeks of use and battery life is astounding
Go for it, it's easy to install and if you don't like you can simply revert back to your current ROM (so long as you used ROM Manager and made a backup of course)
Root is the way to go.
ICS is having battery problems. Go with a custom as mentioned above. I went with the [ROM][25-01-12][AOSP][4.0.3] Codename Android 1.2.0|Fully Open Source and its amazing!
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I9023a
AOSP Codename Android 1.2.0
Or just compile it yourself. The code is there.
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Best ICS ROM
I have been using Crossbones after testing out another well known rom. Crossbones seems to have the magic. The developer is very concerned with stability and only adds features if it works well. No random crashes and few bugs. But he rightly labels his current build a beta which I respect. Others are labeling their betas, stable builds. If you are looking for a good rom with lots of potential check this one out. Oh and BTW great battery life.
Thank you all for your suggestions.
I used to flash ROMs on my Captivate, and kept my Nexus S as a Google OTA phone. Though, considering this whole ICS mess, I'm considering going the way of the custom ROM on this device too.
I might give it another week or two, and see if anything happens by the start of February.
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Thank you all for your suggestions.
I used to flash ROMs on my Captivate, and kept my Nexus S as a Google OTA phone. Though, considering this whole ICS mess, I'm considering going the way of the custom ROM on this device too.
I might give it another week or two, and see if anything happens by the start of February.
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If you have a linux machine compile it yourself, or pick one of many custom ROM's out in the development section or get mine from my signature, the lightest ICS Rom out there. No battery issues for me, lasts 2 days on medium usage.
Hmm i saw that Google stopped the update on some regions including mine -_- to gather feedback ...
Good ICS ROM
Checkout this ROM, it comes with the kernel in that integrated package.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425344
Don't wait for the OTA update, just flash this awesome ROM and chose the KERNEL that fit your needs !!!
Google it's way behind on ICS
my setup at the moment
CODENAME ANDROID 1.2 | Matrix v15 cfs
I have rooted and tried a couple ice roms but found them not much better. It was at the end of November tho, went back to stock hoping for the ota. I do know that there are some awesome builds out but I don't wanna wipe again just yet but I'm getting close.
I keep getting the update notification on my nexus S, I'm trying to figure out if this ICS upgrade that my phone keeps telling me about is the same with bugs etc or a fixed one...anyone know?
I want to know if I can go back to 2.3.6 from 4.0.4 on my Skyrocket. I did the update before reading, and definitely sooner than I should have. Normally, I wait a few weeks, but I hadn't had any issues with my Nexus S on ICS, so took the plunge when I received my notification earlier. Now that the update is done, I can say that AT&T screwed its users. Instead of having a nice, flowing OS on our phones, we have AT&T's services continually interfering (Address Book, YP, etc.).
I'd much rather have a usable phone on 2.3.6 than this bloated, nastyness that is AT&T's messed up version of 4.0.4.
Yes. You can.
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I want to know if I can go back to 2.3.6 from 4.0.4 on my Skyrocket. I did the update before reading, and definitely sooner than I should have. Normally, I wait a few weeks, but I hadn't had any issues with my Nexus S on ICS, so took the plunge when I received my notification earlier. Now that the update is done, I can say that AT&T screwed its users. Instead of having a nice, flowing OS on our phones, we have AT&T's services continually interfering (Address Book, YP, etc.).
I'd much rather have a usable phone on 2.3.6 than this bloated, nastyness that is AT&T's messed up version of 4.0.4.
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read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398 but only to get to 2.3.5 or ics, not 2.3.6 dont think thats possible
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I want to know if I can go back to 2.3.6 from 4.0.4 on my Skyrocket. I did the update before reading, and definitely sooner than I should have. Normally, I wait a few weeks, but I hadn't had any issues with my Nexus S on ICS, so took the plunge when I received my notification earlier. Now that the update is done, I can say that AT&T screwed its users. Instead of having a nice, flowing OS on our phones, we have AT&T's services continually interfering (Address Book, YP, etc.).
I'd much rather have a usable phone on 2.3.6 than this bloated, nastyness that is AT&T's messed up version of 4.0.4.
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why don't you just remove those services using Titanium backup?
If you tweak ICS in a proper way , it very much close to GB smoothness with the add features ...
I couldn't disagree more on ICS. I debloated, and on Apex launcher, it is a significant upgrade from Gingerbread. A lot of things are smoother, especially with flash video, and xvid decoding.
Well, I have to toss my hat in the "Why don't you Root it and Clean it up?" crowd.
I bought my phone Monday, came home, loaded ICS, rooted it the next day, froze or removed all the AT&T bloat, put Nova Launcher on there and I could not be happier with the phone.
Some will suggest that you load a custom ROM on there. If that's your thing, go for it. Myself, I depend on my phone too much to not be able to get support. I use custom rom's on my tablet and I've got several apps that don't work right. The ROM developer is of no help. And the app developers won't help because it's not a OEM rom. I can live with that on my tablet, but not my phone.
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Well, I have to toss my hat in the "Why don't you Root it and Clean it up?" crowd.
I bought my phone Monday, came home, loaded ICS, rooted it the next day, froze or removed all the AT&T bloat, put Nova Launcher on there and I could not be happier with the phone.
Some will suggest that you load a custom ROM on there. If that's your thing, go for it. Myself, I depend on my phone too much to not be able to get support. I use custom rom's on my tablet and I've got several apps that don't work right. The ROM developer is of no help. And the app developers won't help because it's not a OEM rom. I can live with that on my tablet, but not my phone.
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I am a big fan of reliability also. Normally I wind up stock on phones. Not so on this phone. I am really impressed with Sean's work. ATT really loads on the bloat and some of the junk (YP in the address book) is hard to get out. I have been running his port of the Roger's rom and it is solid. (on ATT) It also has some nice features like the call recording (free). I like it so much I haven't even messed with his ATT official ICS port (or the Kies OTA one).
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rpolansky said:
I am a big fan of reliability also. Normally I wind up stock on phones. Not so on this phone. I am really impressed with Sean's work. ATT really loads on the bloat and some of the junk (YP in the address book) is hard to get out. I have been running his port of the Roger's rom and it is solid. (on ATT) It also has some nice features like the call recording (free). I like it so much I haven't even messed with his ATT official ICS port (or the Kies OTA one).
Imho..
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Got a link to go check it out? I'm not sure you you are talking about when you say "Sean."
Oh, I actually like the Yellow Pages stuff. I use the heck out of it and have since my BlackBerry days. LoL
WolfmanRobby said:
Got a link to go check it out? I'm not sure you you are talking about when you say "Sean."
Oh, I actually like the Yellow Pages stuff. I use the heck out of it and have since my BlackBerry days. LoL
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Killer ROM based on the official Rogers ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722828
His newest ROM based on the offical ATT ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763195
I have been running the Rogers ICS for weeks on ATT and have no problems at all. It is very smooth and fast. Everybody has different software, of course; but it is like running stock just faster with some tweaks.
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His newest ROM based on the offical ATT ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763195
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This is the ROM I'm running. It is SMOOTH and in one word : Amazing
I am running the "stockish" version (not the speed dragon version).
Exchange email
4.2F6 R2 base
Update 1.7
UCLF6 radio
UCLF6 modded kernel
My son has a new Skyrocket as of 2 weeks ago. I just upgraded his phone to ICS using Kies. It is not anywhere in the same league as Seanzscream's "Sky ICS" from based on AT&T's official release.
I was running Seanz ICS Rom based on Rogers. It was great! But I honestly think the AT&T version runs better.
Sean provides great support (the best dev I've experienced in my 3 years of flashing Roms). You can feel confident flashing his AT&T rom for your daily driver. I NEED my phone to work. And it works better than stock.:thumbup:
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His newest ROM based on the offical ATT ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763195
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Thanks for the link. I just looked at the thread and, honestly, I doubt I would fool with a ROM where I have to choose the radio and the email on top of the ROM build. Too many variables to screw with means too many chances to screw something up.
If it was just flashing the ROM, yeah, I'd give it a try. But, I need my phone too much to play around with different radios and such to make sure I got the right one.
On my tablet, yeah.. I treat that thing like Frankenstein's monster!
WolfmanRobby said:
Thanks for the link. I just looked at the thread and, honestly, I doubt I would fool with a ROM where I have to choose the radio and the email on top of the ROM build. Too many variables to screw with means too many chances to screw something up.
If it was just flashing the ROM, yeah, I'd give it a try. But, I need my phone too much to play around with different radios and such to make sure I got the right one.
On my tablet, yeah.. I treat that thing like Frankenstein's monster!
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You don't have to choose those.
I flashed the "non dragon" which has all of the stock mail functionality in it, as well as the most up to date radio, and I honestly couldn't be happier. The entire process took less than ten minutes, and it's worlds apart better than stock.
Give it a shot, I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
Surprisingly enough, I couldn't get my office 365 email account to setup correctly on the stock build from AT&T, but after flashing sean's rom, I've had absolutely 0 problems.
vincom said:
read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398 but only to get to 2.3.5 or ics, not 2.3.6 dont think thats possible
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i found out that it is possible to get 2.3.6 back on the phone. the info is on my sticky in the first link in my sig
Chewza said:
You don't have to choose those.
I flashed the "non dragon" which has all of the stock mail functionality in it, as well as the most up to date radio, and I honestly couldn't be happier. The entire process took less than ten minutes, and it's worlds apart better than stock.
Give it a shot, I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed.
Surprisingly enough, I couldn't get my office 365 email account to setup correctly on the stock build from AT&T, but after flashing sean's rom, I've had absolutely 0 problems.
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That's good to know, but I still won't go for it for the other reason I stated.... Support by 3rd party developers for their apps.
I have a half dozen apps that I have issues with on my Tablet that I can not get developers to support because I'm running a custom ROM. I can't risk that on my phone. Take Pandora. On my Tablet, it will play one song, then DRAG until I skip a song. They refuse to support it because I'm running a non-official ROM. It ticks me off because I like to use my tablet to listen to music in bed (On it's charging stand, plugged into a 2.1 speaker system with the sub under the bed).
And, yeah, you can SAY you are running stock because the ROM is based off stock. But, as soon as you have to send them a log, or debugging info, they will see it's not stock and your support for that app is gone.
So, I'll stick with telling the OP to try a wipe and reload from a CLEAN phone (Clean all the caches). And, then rooting and freezing the bloatware.