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Galaxy S2 returned, preordered Sensation

Hi!
I returned my Samsung Galaxy S2 back to the store and am now waiting for the HTC Sensation. While the Galaxy S2 is a nice phone, I really despise the TouchWiz. Even with ADW Launcher EX & WidgetLocker mitigating the terribleness of the interface Samsung has built, the stock apps still are very uncomfortable to use - especially e-mail, messaging and calendar are lacking. And most of their other attempts at apps aren't any better - dismal at best.
The back cover is unpleasant to remove which is peeving if you like to switch the battery to a fresh one (although spare batteries are not released till mid-june) or regularly move between different countries and therefore like to change SIMs (like I do).
I also would have preferred a capacitive home-button, instead of a physical switch.
Other bugs (which will probably soon be patched) are bothersome as well, like the 3G data connection regularly stalling - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612
Specs-wise I think having a higher resolution screen will be a very nice addition, the lower amount of RAM & internal storage probably won't be all that noticeable. I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
Are any other Samsung Galaxy S2 expatriates lurking on this board? What were your Galaxy-experiences, why are you now waiting for the HTC Sensation instead?

you are in for a bashing.. but good luck

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you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.

BarryH_GEG said:
Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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i dont banter and i have added constructive info. and he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2. and please dont class me with epsix. he is on his own with that. anyway lets see how well this thread goes because i can see it getting ugly. thats all i was saying. some of you guys act so high and mighty that it sometimes get annoying

I returned my SGS2 as well and got Sensation instead.
Sound quality wasn't very good even with Poweramp.
I had a big hope that supercurio will come up with a solution as he did with original SGS, but here what he tweeted
supercurio François Simond
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@kalpik Thanks, appreciated! I start to know my way in Yamaha's driver now. And tend to believe its a non-fixable hardware issue.
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supercurio François Simond
Ok I explored about everything. Clocks, Master/Slave, Effects. I now believe Yamaha messed up by designing a defective DAC for Samsung.
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supercurio François Simond
Flawed, end of story. I'll still explore the external USB DAC option, but nothing related to the Yamaha #MC1N2 unless they fixed themselves
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supercurio François Simond @
@josejacas to my limited comprehension there is a flaw in an internal resampling/oversampling algorithm. Cannot be modified via this driver.
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supercurio François Simond
Of course you need to relativize what I say here. #GalaxySII sound is probably better than most other Android phones. But not iPhone or SGS
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I've lost my hope about GS2 will ever be a good music player like SGS.
Next Thing
I fully charged my SGS2 and turned on Google latitude (As i was travailing), my phone was in the belt pouch, after about three hours i pull the phone out to make a phone call i found my phone burning hot and battery was almost drained. Couldn't bare any more.
I came back home after few days, returned SGS2 and got Sensation.
Sensation is so far so good, Over all very satisfied.

boostedb16b said:
...he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2...
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.

BarryH_GEG said:
I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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i completely agree with you.. but it will never happen because everyone has their opinion and that is what causes all of this nonsense. but fair is fair everyone has a preference but to force your preference on others really pushes my buttons. and you do have to admit they are other who go to other threads to bash others for what they want i do visit the sgs2 forums but out of respect i dont post there because i am not at this moment considering the phone but for knowledge i like to read how it is going.

Good decision.
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I'm agree with you good decision
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I disappoint... Galaxy S II is much better!
Since 2003 I'm a HTC sure user but now I have to disappoint at all with you and with HTC!
I'm very sorry the new sensation is just considered worse than Galaxy S II but we have to admit this is the thuth!
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
4) cameras: Samsung first one 8mpxl, second one (frontal) 2mpxl; for htc sens is 8mpxl the first one too, but 1.3mpxl the sencond one....
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
I'm very sad to tell it but this time I'll change and I'll buy a Samsung...

Good decision OP, who cares about SamSux. I'll give give them 2-3 month and all hell will break lose in there. SamSux bashing SamSux, look at our development section phones isn't release and no clockwork mod yet and we have 3 roms already. That just tells you HTC is more superior than SamSux. Untill they change their filesystem, HTC will be prefer choice for dev community. Don't matter what spec they have.
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I loved the fact that the Galaxy S2 is a very sleek design, thin and light. But the drawbacks - especially in the software area - are very obvious. Their replacements of stock Google apps are, in general, not better but much worse than the original. Plenty of bugs still plague the software - the current version of Music player causes random reboots, data connection is stalling all the time.
Sense (from what I could test on colleagues phones - mainly Desire HD) seems much more thought out and usable to me. I will, still, probably switch to a stock Android ROM, should one arise. But I don't want to be dependent on that.
paocavallo said:
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
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While AMOLED certainly does produce excellent black levels and saturated colours (maybe even oversaturated), after owning a Nexus One with AMOLED since release I do think the drawback of the technology is the inevitable screen burn-in you get after a few months of use. Nothing that is really bothersome, but LCD technology certainly does have its advantages (besides the higher resolution)
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2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
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Considering the high RAM usage of Sense, 1GB would have been nice - but still, 768MB should be plenty.
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3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
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The actual available application memory on the Galaxy S2 is about 2GB, the rest is formated as an internal SD card. In my situation, I typically have about 500MB of app space used - 2GB would have been a nice, but that will still leave me with plenty of headroom once my Sensation is here. A 32GB SD-card will take care of all other storage problems (mainly podcasts, music).
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5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
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This will vary greatly, but the battery access cover on the Galaxy S2 is very flimsy and uncomfortable to remove. I always carry a second battery for my Nexus One, I will do the same for my Sensation. Changing batteries on the Galaxy S2 (as soon as replacements are available in stores) will be a hassle.

i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use

ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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You may get flamed by some of the fanboys, but at the end of the day it's all about what feels good to YOU and stuff the rest. I again prefer the more solid feel and try to avoid "cheap" plasticky feel, plus have been put off by plenty of users in many forums I've been to who knock Samsung's lack of updates. Hopefully for you they sort this out. Good luck with your choice
I probably still have a month or 2 before the Sensation is available here, and am hoping for some positive news re the bootloader saga.

ianst28 said:
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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epsix said:
Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?

rd_nest said:
Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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There you goes again troll, this man use to have Sensation but dont like it so he bought SGII, I wish him well with his purchase just don't come back here and be a SamSux troll just like you idiots.
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PartyMango said:
I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
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What do you mean? The HTC sensation doesn't have HSPA+.
I thought they said "runs on 4G network".
http://blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unveils-its-most-powerful-handset/

I currently have a G2x as well as the Atrix. Ordered the Sensation and the SGS2 as well. Been using both the G2x and the Atrix for a while now and so far, I'm inclined towards the Atrix even though it has the locked bootloader simply because Ive had too many random reboot issues, freeze issues with the G2x (even though I've returned it twice) and I'm not concerned about the light bleed issue.
Once I've received the SGS2 and the Sensation (This Tuesday woohooo!!), I'll have all 4 to test with side by side. Will narrow it down to the top 2 and those are the ones I'm keeping I usually have 2 phones (1 work, 1 personal). If anyone has any suggestions or want me to look at/compare something in specific, let me know.

It's funny..... These [email protected] trolls still lurking in our thread searching for every details to start **** up? My my..... Go flash some TouchCrap will ya.. LMAO
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Atrix 2 = Ugly Sensation knock off

I was reading Engadget today and came across pics of the Atrix 2, Motorola's successor to "the world's most powerful [for a couple of weeks] smartphone".
Guess what? It's sporting a display with the same curved glass edge as the Pyramid/Sensation, with a similar 4.3 aspect ratio and QHD resolution.
Check out the pics: http://goo.gl/Dmdgt
And on Engadget: http://goo.gl/QkPya
Now I kinda know how iPhone fans felt when the Galaxy S came out looking exactly the same as the 3G and 3GS. It's kinda annoying when somebody rips off your favourite design...

Still the best looking handset Moto have produced!! Even if it does look a LOT like the Sensation

yep. and has a good looking dock too. i'd say motorola phones are much more stable than htc but yeah, i have the sensation too and loving every part of it

HTC need to sue Motorola for copying there phone

vitusdoom said:
yep. and has a good looking dock too. i'd say motorola phones are much more stable than htc but yeah, i have the sensation too and loving every part of it
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interesting! I guess everyone has completely diff opinions. I had the atrix.. after about a week - instantly sold that off and bought a sensation! I love the sensation 100000x more. Atrix/motorola was just stupid. Motoblur was absolutely terrible. 16gb internal was awesome! However I couldn't use it to how I liked it because it treated the internal as an external sd card -_-.. Some people like it but heck I couldn't stand it. The best thing was the rotation animation!

I like the back.

germ38 said:
HTC need to sue Motorola for copying there phone
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You mean Google who bought Motorola! They should have bought HTC instead!

Come come fellow HTCers, let's not become legaltards like Apple, so they made a phone that has similarities to the Sensation, so what? when people read the reviews they will see the truth, the Sensation is the greater. And thus, did the Atrix 2 fall into disrepute, so shall it be, amen.

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Come come fellow HTCers, let's not become legaltards like Apple, so they made a phone that has similarities to the Sensation, so what? when people read the reviews they will see the truth, the Sensation is the greater. And thus, did the Atrix 2 fall into disrepute, so shall it be, amen.
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Exactly... And it's not like HTC hasn't ehm, borrowed from others in regards to design. Everybody gets inspired by everybody else, that's how the industry works.
16gb internal was awesome! However I couldn't use it to how I liked it because it treated the internal as an external sd card
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Then I'm afraid you won't like future handsets from HTC. That way of treating the memory is called MTP, as far as I recall. And it's the future. All handsets manufacturers have plans to use it. Some people say it's better than what HTC uses now. I personally don't like it myself a whole lot either...

I'm not being a "legaltard" - I didn't say HTC should sue Motorola, just that the design is so obviously derivative it's laughable. There are only a few ways to seperate a rectangular piece of metal (or, in their case, plastic), but it's kinda funny when their solution is to fairly blatantly rip a phone that's only been on the market a couple of months.
I don't think there's any competition between the two, btw. I just thought it was weird how similar the designs were.

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Still the best looking handset Moto have produced!! Even if it does look a LOT like the Sensation
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more like an OEM product from a single manufacturer

OK I can KINDA see the similarity, but I really don't think they're THAT much alike. The Atrix 2 also kinda looks like the Nexus S, if you ask me.
Most of the HTC-specific design cues are on the back of their phones anyways, though I haven't seen a picture of the Atrix2's rear.
There are only so many ways you can differentiate a 4-4.5 inch touchscreen slab with no physical buttons. As long as they don't go out of their way to look different from each other, I'm not going to complain. Cause that's when you end up with the really stupid ideas. Like the rumoured three button Samsung redesign...

Do you think Nexus 4 would be a good upgrade from the One S?

So with the new announcement of the Nexus 4 and how it will work on T-Mobile's network, I've been wondering if I should sell my One S to buy the Nexus 4? Is anyone else having similar thoughts? I am really interested in the bigger screen, higher resolution, as well as the S4 Pro processor and the 2 GB of ram. The One S has served me well but waiting on an official Jelly Bean release from HTC has been a big pain, though ParanoidAndroid has helped me deal with that. I can't imagine it being supported officially when 4.3 comes out.
Just wondering what everyone else thinks of the Nexus 4 in comparison to our One S.

Sorry, I didn't realize I was posting to the General section. This should belong to the Q&A section. I tried, but I don't know how to delete or move the thread.
I feel bad for messing up.

No worries a mod will move it. But on topic yeah its a great upgrade, it has the best specs on the market right now and it's only £279 I have already decided to upgrade and we can sell are one s on eBay and get the nexus 4 for like £30 on top.
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I'm actually considering the same thing. Allthough the one S is a gorgeous device with good preformance and a wonderfulll build quality. But for this price its a real bargain, and as im on a 2 year contract i doubt the one s will keep up to speed. Plus I'm afraid alot of dev will jump ship aswell (some allready are).
Pro's for getting the Nexus 4 over the one S
- Better screen, this was a mayor lackbuster for the one S
- Newest chipset, allthough the oneS is doing a great job here, there is no denying the power of the s4 pro, and the nexus has a fresh aosp on top of that.
- Huge development community behind it
Con's
- Allthough the nexus has a great camera it doesnt has the same preformance and usability (burst, 0shutterlag, ect.)
- No sense. Yes its bloat, but we can't deny the solid preformance it has nowdays, and if we look at what 4.1 did for the one X i think i rather have a fun Sense ui over a vannila blend aosp nowdays (boring).
- I think i prefer the build quality on the one S, and it looks alot better aswell.
Still with this display, preformance, newest android builds is it hard not to consider it, especially with that price. And the development behind the nexus devices are really tempting too.

I'm buying the LG nexus 4 and selling HTC One S S3 because this phone was garbage. This was my last phone from HTC.
Goodbye HTC (crap), hello Nexus 4!

I like my HOS S4 but I cant resist the S4 Pro chip and the 2 GB of ram. The only con is the lack of an SD slot like the HOS.
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icet69 said:
I like my HOS S4 but I cant resist the S4 Pro chip and the 2 GB of ram. The only con is the lack of an SD slot like the HOS.
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I really like the my HOS S4 but I'll sell my One S for about the same price of the Nexus 4.
PS: I don't care about the SD
There is just one "small" problem. It looks like in Italy the phone it will cost probably 549€ or 599€ instead of 349€ like Spain\France\Germany(via play store)...so I won't sell my One S

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I'm actually considering the same thing. Allthough the one S is a gorgeous device with good preformance and a wonderfulll build quality. But for this price its a real bargain, and as im on a 2 year contract i doubt the one s will keep up to speed. Plus I'm afraid alot of dev will jump ship aswell (some allready are).
Pro's for getting the Nexus 4 over the one S
- Better screen, this was a mayor lackbuster for the one S
- Newest chipset, allthough the oneS is doing a great job here, there is no denying the power of the s4 pro, and the nexus has a fresh aosp on top of that.
- Huge development community behind it
Con's
- Allthough the nexus has a great camera it doesnt has the same preformance and usability (burst, 0shutterlag, ect.)
- No sense. Yes its bloat, but we can't deny the solid preformance it has nowdays, and if we look at what 4.1 did for the one X i think i rather have a fun Sense ui over a vannila blend aosp nowdays (boring).
- I think i prefer the build quality on the one S, and it looks alot better aswell.
Still with this display, preformance, newest android builds is it hard not to consider it, especially with that price. And the development behind the nexus devices are really tempting too.
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This pretty much sums it up. I wont buy it, as my contact lasts one year

Will probably move to it as well, main reasons are
- nexus phone therefore we get updates as soon as they are released and will be guaranteed to get them
- bigger screen
I love the one s, prefer sense to stock android, will probably have a better camera and it has way more features, prefer Samoled, better design/build etc. but HTC as a company have really let it down with support and slow updates, can't see jb hitting my phone for another 4 weeks or so....
I just need to see reviews of it first and user opinions for the audio, camera and battery life, there are reviews for the optimus g, but lg's software seems to have been very poorly optimised (software/driver optimisation is very important in these areas), although these areas still look very good anyway except the camera.
In theory the battery should be better than the s as the n4 has a next gen battery, more power efficient screen and s4 pro, the adreno 320 is more power efficient than the adreno 225

I'm tempted by it so much too just cause its a new phone lol ... But I really don't like the huge screen and I'd miss my camera too much cause the camera the HOS has is too good .. AND honestly the way it feels and the weight and all that makes me not wanna sell this ... On top of all that I think I actually like sense over stock lol ...and screw LG after the g2x I don't think I'm ever getting over that
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icecicle said:
I'm tempted by it so much too just cause its a new phone lol ... But I really don't like the huge screen and I'd miss my camera too much cause the camera the HOS has is too good .. AND honestly the way it feels and the weight and all that makes me not wanna sell this ... On top of all that I think I actually like sense over stock lol ...and screw LG after the g2x I don't think I'm ever getting over that
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Wow, are you me? I really do love the camera on the One S and the build quality just feels excellent; the two things that I would say it has over the Nexus 4. I like the cool metal case and just how professional and solid it feel. Like you, I also had the G2x before the One S and felt like they had screwed me over (Crappy drivers, crappy camera, crappy promise of ICS, etc.). I'll have to really see if I trust Google more than I distrust LG on making a good phone...

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I'll have to really see if I trust Google more than I distrust LG on making a good phone...
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Lol that right there is what i need to figure out too Lol couldn't have said it better
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Though HTC is not so good at delivering updates, in my opinion it is the most reliable OEM out there. So i won't move to LG or Samsung. My reason is based mostly on build quality, which kida sucks on LG and Samsung when compared to HTC.
Also, i don't really see the point in having the latest gadget. The HOS S4 will still be breathing at least a year from now, the CPU and GPU are strong enough. Plus, i don't really see how a quad core will help me on a mobile phone.
The only Nexus i really miss is the original Nexus One, the HTC Desire's brother.

You do realise that lg have nothing to do with the software? All they have done is made the phone and everything regarding software is handled by Google since it's a nexus phone.
Google said they shipped the lg design team over to Google headquarters in order to work with them very closely on the design and ergonomics of the phone.
Lg make fantastic hardware and a lot of their phones are very good as usual they are let down by the poor support and awful software.

I am really thinking about selling my One S S3 and getting a Nexus 4. I seems to be a very good phone.

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I am really thinking about selling my One S S3 and getting a Nexus 4. I seems to be a very good phone.
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I would definitely agree if you have the One S S3. It would be a significant speed bump and there probably isn't a significant con to the Nexus 4 that the One S doesn't share (non-removable battery, no SD card, etc.). I think the S4 version would be a tougher decision as to whether or not to upgrade to the Nexus 4.

Im getting the Nexus 4 the second I have the funds.

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I would definitely agree if you have the One S S3. It would be a significant speed bump and there probably isn't a significant con to the Nexus 4 that the One S doesn't share (non-removable battery, no SD card, etc.). I think the S4 version would be a tougher decision as to whether or not to upgrade to the Nexus 4.
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But I'm too lazy to find someone who wants to buy it. And I don't want to sell it for under 300€.

Ruwin said:
Though HTC is not so good at delivering updates, in my opinion it is the most reliable OEM out there. So i won't move to LG or Samsung. My reason is based mostly on build quality, which kida sucks on LG and Samsung when compared to HTC.
Also, i don't really see the point in having the latest gadget. The HOS S4 will still be breathing at least a year from now, the CPU and GPU are strong enough. Plus, i don't really see how a quad core will help me on a mobile phone.
The only Nexus i really miss is the original Nexus One, the HTC Desire's brother.
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My thoughts exactly although I still have my N1, it will always be the one I never let go.
The speed and performance on this phone is outstanding and well asop has become very boring and old. Sense for me was a very big suprise as its come such a long way and just gets better. For me I'm sticking with my One S.

.TanTien said:
But I'm too lazy to find someone who wants to buy it. And I don't want to sell it for under 300€.
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Lol, no way you will get 300 euros for a S3 one S, when you could get a S4 one S for that.
Especially if you have the black model, which has chipping issues.
Only way is if you can find someone around your area who don't have a clue about tech/android stuff.

[Q] Has anyone thought about their next phone?

Say your MyTouch 4G Slide died, what would be your next phone?
I have a personal list of bare minimum requirements.
GSM
1.2+ GHz Dual Core
1+ GB RAM
16+ GB internal or a MicroSD card
4G capability (Marketing 4G, not necessarily ITU 4G)
Dev Support
Under $500
Used is ok, but I'm tired of spending time and money on cannibalizing phones for parts. Here's MY current list.
Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy S Blaze / Relay
Galaxy SII / SIII
Google Nexus 4
HTC Amaze
HTC One S / X
HTC Sensation
HTC Vivid
Huawei Ascend D / P1
Huawei Honor II
MyTouch 4G slide
Oppo Finder
Xiaomi Mi-1 S / Mi-2
Xperia ion LTE

Yes I have, and I have been called a snob by some for what I want out of my next device. But this is all I want/care about:
1. It has to be a Nexus or I won't buy another android device ill go iOS.
2. Dual Core
3. 2 GB RAM
4. Dev support for ROMS such as Paranoid-Android/CMXX/AOKP.
5. At least a biweekly update of said ROMS.
6. Not to be called a snob for wanting this stuff.

GoPadge said:
Say your MyTouch 4G Slide died, what would be your next phone?
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I have to agree with Strapped, though I'll never be desperate enough for an iOS device. But, I've resolved to only have a Nexus device from now onward. They may not be the state-of-the-art or most powerful, but they are darn sure the best supported by devs AND by Google, so will always have the choice of a custom or a stock ROM that is up-to-date. Oh, and it has to be GSM since I need it for travel.

I was thinking about grabbing a Relay, but not until the price comes down. I still need my hard keyboard.
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hardware KEYBOARD a must (slide-out, and would be nice to have it tilted too)
pure and unlocked "nexus" Android a must (never again locked or crapped-all-over Android OS for me, certainly no overpriced junk iOS or WP - but I may think about BB10 OS if it is still alive, lol)
at least 4-cores, more than 1GHz (CPU)
at least 2GB RAM
no more than 4'' screen (no less than 3.8'') - unless the actual screen is the entire front surface, then up to 4.5''
good video chipset (GPU) to play any highly-compressed HD/2K videos smoothly
GSM/4G of course (can't wait for all those CDMA garbage networks to die)
front cam (for videocalls)
if it must come with built-in video/photo-snapshooter on the back, it must have 2 microphones to record sound in stereo
don't care about built-in storage space, but must be able to effectively use 128GB SDXC U-I (and larger),
and card MUST be accessible without removing cover (that's the biggest flaw of MT4GS imho)
That's all
Oh, add a wireless charger to my list, but I doubt this will ever catch on en masse...
I had my first Dyna-Pik electric toothbrush using wireless charger back in 1991 and I always thought it's the future, but as time passes by, I now doubt it will ever come out from a niche aftermarket phone solutions...

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Yes I have, and I have been called a snob by some for what I want out of my next device. But this is all I want/care about:
1. It has to be a Nexus or I won't buy another android device ill go iOS.
2. Dual Core
3. 2 GB RAM
4. Dev support for ROMS such as Paranoid-Android/CMXX/AOKP.
5. At least a biweekly update of said ROMS.
6. Not to be called a snob for wanting this stuff.
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I'm right there with you on every point - the only thing I would add for my own list of wants is for the device to have a physical keyboard. There are far far too many situations where I need the speed / precision in my typing that I can't seem to get from the on screen keyboards, where I find myself frequently fighting with the "intelligent word searches" because I am using technical / engineering vocabulary that is not in the dictionaries, or I'm pecking out small bits of code that the phone thinks is my inability to understand english.
If I could wave a wand, I'd want a refresh of the Motorola Photon Q without the USA blocked GSM bands. Since the Motorola purchase from Google, maybe it will happen. I also think I read somewhere that someone found a way to flash a radio to the device that enables USA GSM, so I might do some digging into that this weekend.
If that is unreasonable, another imaginary product that would do me just fine would be a "slider/flip case" that fits on the Nexus 4, giving it an exceptional four or better yet five row keyboard.
In the end, I'd be willing to drop $500 off contract for the right phone, and I'm sure a number of other people looking for a HIGH END device with keyboard would agree... We don't need more mid-range devices that are more or less the same 1.2ghz dual core device repackaged for the last three years (No, adding NFC to an aged platform does not lead me into the future) - and they wonder why the demand is low?

strapped365 said:
Yes I have, and I have been called a snob by some for what I want out of my next device. But this is all I want/care about:
1. It has to be a Nexus or I won't buy another android device ill go iOS.
2. Dual Core
3. 2 GB RAM
4. Dev support for ROMS such as Paranoid-Android/CMXX/AOKP.
5. At least a biweekly update of said ROMS.
6. Not to be called a snob for wanting this stuff.
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You seem to have both extremes..... Open Nexus with Dev Support or totally locked iOS.
The Samsung phones are ok, though the SIII is a bit big for my taste.
The HTC One phones looks fine, but the rest seem somewhat boring.
And I have some reservations about the Nexus 4.
The Huawei, Oppo, and Xiaomi have weak support here.
I still like the MT4GS, but I've been frustrated with it lately. Every time I have to take the phone apart I end up having to replace a digitizer or flex cable.

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You seem to have both extremes..... Open Nexus with Dev Support or totally locked iOS.
The Samsung phones are ok, though the SIII is a bit big for my taste.
The HTC One phones looks fine, but the rest seem somewhat boring.
And I have some reservations about the Nexus 4.
The Huawei, Oppo, and Xiaomi have weak support here.
I still like the MT4GS, but I've been frustrated with it lately. Every time I have to take the phone apart I end up having to replace a digitizer or flex cable.
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Yeah but my iDevice is oh so smooth. It's on my lap right now texting the wifey.....yeah yall didn't know I rocked iOS huh? And I don't think either is extreme. If wanting dev support is just to crazy then ill have to support my own device because I DON'T buy phones for what they are out of t he box, I buy them for what can be done with them after I get home and logged into xda.
When I took my DS apart the LCD was literally shot and fell apart in about 4 pieces. So I took my good motherboard and put it in cybots bricked device and it runs all this forum stuff real nice. I'm waiting to see if my new device was stolen out of the mail then I'm gonna mail a working device back to cybot,whip some ass and hope I don't get locked up for smashing this guys face. Yeah fun times in my neighborhood. But all that means is ill be forced into another phone
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im will be upgrading soon and will either get the note 2 or the nexus 4. im not sure which yet......i have a few friends with the note 2 and i have gotten to mess around with it. it seems there is plenty of development on the device already. but the nexus still keeps calling my name

I just had to buy a new one because my camera stopped working 2 mounths after the guarantee ended For me a keyboard is requirement 1. There isn't that many out there with better spec. I wanted at least a 8mpix camera. 1GB ram. dual or quad core over 1.2GHz and the right frequencies to work in Sweden. The only one that could work is Motorola Photon Q 4G. But it seemed to currupting sd-cards and had bad battery life. (worse than MT4GS), Anyway. I ended up with a new MT4GS

hmmm ideas for the mytouch 4g slide 2

My girlfriend has the Samsung Galaxy Relay. The keyboard is nice, the screen is fine, and someone is already working on CM9 for it (but the keyboard doesn't work completely yet and the camera doesn't work yet). My only gripes about it are that the slide mechanism doesn't feel nearly as satisfying as the MT4GS and that the bezel is huge.
My girlfriend replaced my MT4GS so I'm coming back here after using a Nexus S. I'll miss CM10.1 a lot. ;_;

The best HTC T-Mobile can offer
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If I have to move from this device, I would probably be more inclined to getting the Note 2 more than the Nexus 4 ( whixh are basically the only reasonable options available now and in the near future)
This is because right now it would be easier and cheaper to get a Note II in my country than it would be the Nexus 4. Also, looking at the Note II smart dock available right now for the Note II makes it even more of a no brainer for me. The dock has 3 USB ports, hdmi out, audio line-out which practically turns the device into a PC or a gaming console depending on how you would like to use it.
I hate touchwiz, so i wound rather have the device dualbooting a jellybam-like AOSP and Linux. Considering the amount of brut the device has (1.6ghz quad with 2gb ram) I'd say it would be perfectly suited to run Linux natively, and not through vnc. Linux would probably put the dock to better use than Android anyway. I know Ubuntu Phone Os is on the way but it's a long way off. I was looking around and saw the TF300T had gotten a working port of Archlinux which means that it also gets X server running on it. It would be really cool to have the option of both distros by the time Ubuntu Phone OS starts getting ported to devices.

I need some feedback from my MyTouch 4G Slide community:
My MT4GS just broke two days ago. I have no in-call sound unless I'm on speaker phone or bluetooth. I guess my earpiece speaker is broken.
Anyway, I'm going to see my buddy at T-mobile on Friday. I've been looking at the Nexus 4 and on paper it looks amazing and I'm sure I'd be happy with it...except for that keyboard issue. I've been trying to use my slide without the keyboard for a couple days now and I really hate it. Things I hadn't even thought of before started popping up like not even being able to see the darn keyboard outside because of glare. I don't have that issuse with my slide out.
Anyway, I said before that I'd skip the Samsung Relay for a future keyboard device but now my back is up against the wall and I need a decision by Friday. Go for the Nexus 4 in all it's technological glory or get the Samsung Relay so I'm still in my comfort zone and a happy texter?
Does the Relay even have a dedicated XDA Forum? I searched but only found some stuff in miscellaneous.

siani_8 said:
I need some feedback from my MyTouch 4G Slide community:
My MT4GS just broke two days ago. I have no in-call sound unless I'm on speaker phone or bluetooth. I guess my earpiece speaker is broken.
Anyway, I'm going to see my buddy at T-mobile on Friday. I've been looking at the Nexus 4 and on paper it looks amazing and I'm sure I'd be happy with it...except for that keyboard issue. I've been trying to use my slide without the keyboard for a couple days now and I really hate it. Things I hadn't even thought of before started popping up like not even being able to see the darn keyboard outside because of glare. I don't have that issuse with my slide out.
Anyway, I said before that I'd skip the Samsung Relay for a future keyboard device but now my back is up against the wall and I need a decision by Friday. Go for the Nexus 4 in all it's technological glory or get the Samsung Relay so I'm still in my comfort zone and a happy texter?
Does the Relay even have a dedicated XDA Forum? I searched but only found some stuff in miscellaneous.
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The reason typing on the touchscreen sucks on the MT4GS is because the screen is kind of hilariously small. I went from the MT4GS -> Nexus S -> MT4GS and typing on the Nexus S is so much easier because the screen is larger.
The Relay does not have a dedicated forum but a very large development thread in misc development. I think it's a pretty decent phone. The keyboard is nice, CM10.1 is chugging along decently, and the hardware is similar to the S3. The sliding mechanism is kind of terrible though and I think that would be the first thing to fail on the phone.
Nexus 4 is pretty cool. I'd take a look at the Note 2 also unless you think it's too large and wear pants with no pockets or something.

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The reason typing on the touchscreen sucks on the MT4GS is because the screen is kind of hilariously small. I went from the MT4GS -> Nexus S -> MT4GS and typing on the Nexus S is so much easier because the screen is larger.
The Relay does not have a dedicated forum but a very large development thread in misc development. I think it's a pretty decent phone. The keyboard is nice, CM10.1 is chugging along decently, and the hardware is similar to the S3. The sliding mechanism is kind of terrible though and I think that would be the first thing to fail on the phone.
Nexus 4 is pretty cool. I'd take a look at the Note 2 also unless you think it's too large and wear pants with no pockets or something.
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Thanks for the input. I am leaning towards the Nexus 4 for many obvious reasons but I'm already getting separation anxiety from my keyboard and that 5 row qwerty is sweet on the Relay. I feel like a kid trying to give up his binky lol.

siani_8 said:
Thanks for the input. I am leaning towards the Nexus 4 for many obvious reasons but I'm already getting separation anxiety from my keyboard and that 5 row qwerty is sweet on the Relay. I feel like a kid trying to give up his binky lol.
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Hit me up on gtalk I'll make your mind up . Go NEXUS
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I got the nexus 4 for my girl and she absolutley loves it and it is bar far the best phone out there... for her. I play with it a lot and like it much but doubt I could ever use it daily, I'm I need of a keyboard, been hooked for years and haven't found anything to move me away... if it were me go relay as you sound like you have similar needs/wants
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Yeah it's funny, I've been going back and forth all day about it weighing the pros and cons and it's ashame but my need for a keyboard might hold me back from getting that awesome Nexus 4. I also find myself using wifi calling to stay connected in a dead zone at work so that's another selling point.. I told myself i'd never go backwards in specs and that 5 mp camera is certainly a step backwards but I may end up taking the hit on that front to stay in my comfort zone. I do miss the dedicated number row from the G1 days too so that will be nice. If I'm forced to get a touch phone on my next purchase when physical keys are in the past, then so be it. I have two more days though and who knows, I might change my mind again and get the Nexus 4. The good news is that I think the Relay is free after rebate so I won't lose anything if I go that route and I could always buy the Nexus outright if I'm unhappy. Thanks for letting me bounce my thoughts here guys.
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Tell Me Mates What Are You Going to Say For This Guy ???

This is CNET Top 5 : Reasons not to buy the Galaxy S4​

he is true.. except i didnt like point no 3

I don't see what's the problem, all his arguments are solid and valid.

At the end he also say. It was very heavy to find 5 arguments to not buy the Galaxy S4.

Points 4 and 2 are rather contradictory. "Don't buy an S4 because they look boring. 'Stand out from the crowd' and get an HTC One, just like EVERYONE else is. Or buy a Nexus, which looks even more boring than the S4."
Point 1 is of course spot on though.

The HTC One and Nexus doesn't have a expandable microSD slot and back cover can't be removed to replace battery

It's funny because he gives like 10 reasons to buy it before the first reason not to buy it. And if you keep waiting to buy the next phone, you'll never buy one. Phones are coming out by the month so just buy the damn phone.

Note 3? I don't need a tablet in my pocket.

lamest reasons ever
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Yeah. Let's all buy/not buy a phone because of the way it looks/doesn't look Tech journalists are imbeciles for the most part (and a surprising number, particularly US ones, are reluctant to criticise Apple's products).

and more reasons not to buy this phone:
- it lags as hell
- worst low light camera phone ever

Quit whining, just put any other rom than Touchwiz on this and it is smoother than any other phone. Ok, Touchwiz has some cool features, but you'll only use them a few times, so it isn't worth sticking with Touchwiz.
Benchmarks with aosp 4.3 outrun the LG G2 so easily, which makes it even more obvious that this phone is awesome.
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Quit whining, just put any other rom than Touchwiz on this and it is smoother than any other phone. Ok, Touchwiz has some cool features, but you'll only use them a few times, so it isn't worth sticking with Touchwiz.
Benchmarks with aosp 4.3 outrun the LG G2 so easily, which makes it even more obvious that this phone is awesome.
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exactly. and @ the guy who was whining about the low light performance of the camera: 1. you haven´t ever used a galaxy s4 - the low light performance is great 2. buy a htc one with it´s crappy 4mp sensor.
usually most photos are taken at daytime.
also i love the s4´s design and performance. everything is perfect. best screen i´ve seen till now. outstanding camera. removable battery and sd card slot and it´s very light because of the polycarbonate case. also it will outperform the htc one when getting dropped completely.

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and more reasons not to buy this phone:
- it lags as hell
- worst low light camera phone ever
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You can flash Omega ROM, it is quite smooth. You can have all the Samsung features.

Oh no he has an opinion! Video was grand, valid points for him.
HTC one is a lovely device, nexus 4 is cool. S4 is great. It's one guys opinion. Welcome it.
Tis only a phone.
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5. Underdog innovation: is just a stupid reason and yes, you will always find something else quite innovative in another phone. You should chose the innovation you will find the most useful... or maybe no software innovation at all and like me just use the plain Google Android OS with some improvements like CyanogenMod does.
4. Boring design: that's a subjective mater. I find the design awesome. It doesn't fly from your hands, it's slim, it's pleasing to the hands on cold or warm climate. I don't care at all about plastic like a lot of people do. I even despise metallic phones like iPhone or HTC. Also, why you should change a working design? I find awesome that Samasung Galaxy line design is improving on previous designs. If you're on the stupidity of getting status from your phone buy those exclusive designs for Android that costs thousands of dollars. You will be noticed then.
3. Samsung Galaxy S3: granted, there is not much a difference with it but I can talk from what I see in my country. The price difference doesn't justify buying an older phone, as they are almost priced the same and there are still some advantages from the S4. Battery is definitely better for start. The design IMO is also better, but that's just subjective you remember.
2. Google Nexus 5: I would have also added all the army of phones that are coming. You know, that's the universal "not to buy" reason for any technology?, there will always be something new. You won't end buying anything at all as Nexus 5 in six months will also be old and something better will be just around the corner. Just wait for the next big thing... eternally.
1. The next Samsung phone: idem 2
They do realize most of these reasons are stupid and they (almost) say it on the video.

LOL! That was pretty tongue in cheek. Great to see there is not a single REAL reason not to get the phone on his list. No technical issues, features missing, etc.

real reasons:
1. uber oversized crappy TW
2. cpu overheats fast
thats all i can think off.
1 is solved by a new rom
and 2 is solved by a new kernel with UV.
the rom/stock is just awful

LOL. That video obviously all subjective reasoning. We're buying phone because we like those phone, if we don't like the phone just don't buy it or sell it if already buy it.
And imo SGS4 is a great phone.
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ar216893 said:
LOL. That video obviously all subjective reasoning. We're buying phone because we like those phone, if we don't like the phone just don't buy it or sell it if already buy it.
And imo SGS4 is a great phone.
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yep I agree its all about what suits you.
Personally I'm sick of these threads they achieve little apart from people going tribal and fighting their corner. Both phones are very good and also differant but the same so instead of rubbishing either buy what suits you and be happy with it.
oh and the number one best reason for not taking any notice of the vid is that its from May so in terms of the mibile phone world its 1984 stuff.