Smart Remote for Galaxy S4, Current version 1.1.6
MOD EDIT - No Advertising Paid Apps
Im here to tell you about a Universal Remote designed for the S4 that uses the IR sensor that is AMAZING. It has nearly almost all codes for all sorts of things from AV systems, AUX, Blu Ray, Blu Ray Players, CD, Climate Control, DSLR, DTV Converter, DVD, DVD Player, DVD/VCR Combo, Game, IPOD (MP3 players), Laser Disc, Lightning Control, Media Manager, Multizone Systems, Projectors, Receivers, Set Top Box (cable, satellite, and assorted stuff), Soundbar, Subwoofer, Switcher, T HHD DVD Recorder-DVD, TV, TV/DVD Combo, TV/DVD/VCR Combo, TV/VCR, Video Processor, Microsystem, and can request stuff that's not there but theres A LOT of brands available now.
This program is $10 but its so worth it and its very accurate as well as responsive just as a normal remote. May take a few to set up correctly as I was lost with my cable box from my cable provider Metrocast, I have a Pace brand box from my cable company and I had to make sure selected the right one. It give you all sorts of buttons depending on the device you add. The best part is the smart remote system you can create your own buttons, i havn't really tested this part, but its awesome by the sounds of it.
I been playing with this for an hour and I'm seriously impressed with it. I highly recommend spending the $10 on this. Its easy to set up and grasp as long as you can find your brand easy.
I will add pictures later of the remote from like my Xbox and cable remote to show you the different button options i have with each.
(i posted this in the sprint variant section but adding it to the other)
Link doesn't work or doesn't work in Italy Play Store.
EDIT: and $ 10 seems like a very high cost for me. I already bought 80 apps on market and normally I've no problem, but 10 $...
m_pascal said:
Link doesn't work or doesn't work in Italy Play Store.
EDIT: and $ 10 seems like a very high cost for me. I already bought 80 apps on market and normally I've no problem, but 10 $...
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hell of a lot cheaper than buying an actual universal remote, don't you think?
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hell of a lot cheaper than buying an actual universal remote, don't you think?
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Maybe, but is most expensive than other more complex app in Play Market, don't you think?
App is your and you can make the price you prefer, but I bought a 1-2 $ apps without problems (60-70 times till now), 2-5 $ apps if I need it very much and it is perfectly written. I've never spent 10 $ for an app and I don't know if I'll change my consuetude.
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Maybe, but is most expensive than other more complex app in Play Market, don't you think?
App is your and you can make the price you prefer, but I bought a 1-2 $ apps without problems (60-70 times till now), 2-5 $ apps if I need it very much and it is perfectly written. I've never spent 10 $ for an app and I don't know if I'll change my consuetude.
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I know it seems steep for paying that much for it and trust me I didnt want to but i tested it and its amazing. Well worth the 10 if it has that many codes for many many devices. a cheap crappy universal remote for a tv is 10 and they break easy, this is designed very well and stable.
Ok, but the link in the first post doesn't work.
EDIT: I think it is THIS
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Ok, but the link in the first post doesn't work.
EDIT: I think it is THIS
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Yes that was it. sry i had to get the link, and ty for posting it.
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Yes that was it. sry i had to get the link, and ty for posting it.
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Now the one in the first post works too.
I hope that remote buttons will be editable in future and maybe mixable beetween two or more remote controls. After that the app will interest me more, even if its cost is so high.
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Now the one in the first post works too.
I hope that remote buttons will be editable in future and maybe mixable beetween two or more remote controls. After that the app will interest me more, even if its cost is so high.
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I know in the smart remote mode has customization buttons.
Yeah, I didn't think of posting it on the forum...
I have it, works pretty good! It even has for Projectors and all kinds of "turnable" devices.
Sounds good but I wont be paying that price.
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For this there is paid apps announcement section.
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Advertising of paid apps is not allowed in XDA even if you haven't made the app.
For this there is paid apps announcement section.
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Is there a ps3 control for android, similar to the wiimote one.
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I would also like to know if its possible
The developer of the Wiimote application, pikipirs, said that he will try to work on it. However there seems to be a few difficulties though I trust he will come through. It's all mentioned in his Wiimote thread which I can't seem to link to since I'm a new user.
Mm what i mean is use my android as a remote for the ps3 sorry for the confusion...
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no there isnt.
Can anyone try to develop it? Im sure ALOT of people would pay atleast 5 bucks for this in the market including me...
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wait what? why would you want to use a cellphone as a gamepad? it's usually the other way around
I would like to use phone as touchpad and keyboard for PS3
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I would really like the app so that i can use my phone as a keyboard to use while on the web or even play online. I rather pay 10 bucks on the market than buy some expensive bluetooth keyboard,
Sorry for stealing the thread...
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Add my "me too!" to the list=]
Don't know if this is what you guys are looking for exactly (I don't have a ps3) but try and app called "Pocket Blu" at least it gives you full control while watching Blu-ray discs.
Here's a video of some guy on youtube demonstrating it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6sCBu4elag
I'd much rather get my PS3 controller working for my PSX Emulator on my phone lol...
Add my vote too... It'd be great if someone could make an app to use the phone as a bluetooth keyboard/remote for the PS3... there is an app out there but it only works with certain blurays/bluray players apparently, not the PS3.... this would be a huge help in naming files/browsing the web/writing messages. As a previous poster said, I'd much rather pay 5-10 bucks on the market than spend 50-100+ on some huge bulky keyboard....
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Don't know if this is what you guys are looking for exactly (I don't have a ps3) but try and app called "Pocket Blu" at least it gives you full control while watching Blu-ray discs.
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Add my vote too... It'd be great if someone could make an app to use the phone as a bluetooth keyboard/remote for the PS3... there is an app out there but it only works with certain blurays/bluray players apparently, not the PS3.... this would be a huge help in naming files/browsing the web/writing messages. As a previous poster said, I'd much rather pay 5-10 bucks on the market than spend 50-100+ on some huge bulky keyboard....
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PocketBlu only works with a select few Pocket Blu-enabled Blu-ray discs, all of which are titles released by Universal (none of the the other studios are supporting this feature, yet). I believe all new and future Universal titles will include the Pocket Blu feature. It is a cool, but gimmicky, feature that works flawlessly and is as quick as the native remote control(s) for my players.
I actually bought the PS3 keypad attachment. It's overpriced and awkward to use. LOL
Add me to the list.
Someone could make a lot of money i feel. I would happily pay 5-10 bucks to use my Dualshock 3 on my EVO. I know someone can do it!!!
Open remote play
there is a project called open remote play which reverse engineered the remote play feature for sony vaio. Somebody could use that code if they wanted to try to make an app. (no linking but it's hosted on google code, you can search it)
Also Mobile SRC for windows mobile was an interesting idea: turns the phone into a bluetooth keyboard, which can be used to control the ps3
www(DOT)mobilesrc(dot)com(Slash)mobileremote(dot)aspx
Ive been dreaming of an app that turns the phone into a bluetooth keyboard.
I already have a doongle ready hehe
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Yeah, any generic bluetooth mouse and/or keyboard will work with PS3. So if an app could let the phone work as a bluetooth keyboard, that would work, it wouldn't need to be PS3 specific.
Also, being able to use a PS3 controller as the input device on my phone while using emulators would be TOO amazing! This is what I'm really hoping for
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wait what? why would you want to use a cellphone as a gamepad? it's usually the other way around
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You want to use your gamepad as a cellphone?
Was thinking the same thing when I was playing cod yesterday...if I could link my phone wit my ps3 Bluetooth and use my phone for a keyboard that'd b tight
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Hi all,
Anyone know of any decent music production apps? I've got Uloops but compared to Tabletop for the iPad its pretty dull.
Hope there is something a bit more feature packed avaiable on coming soon.
Cheers
I picked up SPC when it was free a few weeks ago on the Amazon Appstore. Check out the video on the market page, it's a lot of fun.
I don't know of anything in Android comparable to GarageBand on the iPad but if you do find something along those lines (or anything else of interest for that matter), be sure to post it back here!
Caustic is pretty good
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.singlecellsoftware.caustic
Nice, cheers for both of them, will give them ago.
There's a decent app called Plasma Sound HD which is kind of like a synth pad. Worth looking at if you havent already, hopefully it will work in conjunction with some of these apps
Try Reactable.
I can't figure out how to use it but I only gave it a try for 2 minutes. It's $10 but should work similarly to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc
Cool to read this, gonna look in to them. Whas looking for it myself as well.
Still waiting for FL Studio mobile...
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Still waiting for FL Studio mobile...
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Me 2, also wondering if will be free to people who have a registred version for the pc. And if not what the price will be for the app.....
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Me 2, also wondering if will be free to people who have a registred version for the pc. And if not what the price will be for the app.....
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I'm an user since 8 and love the free LifeTime Upgrades. You can chcek out My youtube
TBH, I don't think it'll be free, but will be fairly priced just as the Desktop version.
Just found easyband studio
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nw.easybandpro gonna give the lite version a g
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Just found easyband studio
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nw.easybandpro gonna give the lite version a g
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I'll give it a go to on my ASUS Eee Pad Transformer and maybe make a video on how it works for me.
i play with caustic a lot, it's a decent drum machine/sampler
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Chordbot lets you play around with chord sequences and provides various musical styles to dress up the chord progressions. I found it helpful for musical compositions and trying out different melodies to go with the chords.
What I like in chordbot and similar apps is... there is only the name of the chord and no information what notes it contains. I never got to learning all the chords names I just use them by intuition (I'm self learned, you can hear my music on Jamendo - search for Tomasz Kucza - and in my games). On Android I tested only Caustic - it's quite fine for fun.
So, what was the ultimate verdict?
Pros and/or Cons....?
Some of these apps are a bit pricey, and I was curious to see how they worked out.
Also, what are you creating? (Genre)
Thanks in advanced.
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After trying a few apps I'd say it's a waste of money - these apps are nowhere close to DAWs like Ableton/FL/Logic etc. Maybe FL Mobile will be something good, but if you really need to produce music get a laptop.
I agree they are all a waste of money for producing but they are ok for just for fun.
Might plug my pad into my studio and get caustic used as a synth cubase as theres a sound on it i want to use in a track.
Apart from that they are all a bit of fun
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The Yinlips YDP-G18 is probably the cheapest Android device you can find with dedicated game controls. It would be cool if someone could cook up an updated English language ROM for it.
Official site:
http://www.yinlips.com/en/productdetail.asp?ID=220
Where to buy:
http://www.isharegifts.com/yinlips-android-game-console-wifi-tablet-mp4-p-1573.html
Review (with lots of photos):
http://translate.google.com/transla...u=http://www.imp3.net/1/show.php?itemid=32282
Video showing it emulate N64 and PSX games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00C6RT-HawU
Hello,
This is a very promising console, we are currently testing and we must admit that this console is doing pretty well ... It's just a few thoughtful developers to take advantage of the machine maximum.
Go on google and write "CAANOO forumactif" to see the test!
The root is effective and the market is available.
Sorry for my poor english, i'm french
They already rooted it and installed android market on it. IMHO, it should get its own section. Having stripped down froyo or gb roms on it could further improve performance and battery life.
If I had the coin, I'd buy it right away. It's priced at $125 with free shipping. And it's the projection of my most beautiful dreams. Except for the two cameras it has.
It's actually a good product that can have enormous potential. Its biggest flaw is its current autonomy should be 3 hours with Wi-Fi enabled.
The screen is resistive, but responds well. It allows running N64 and PSX games fairly easily and without overclock.
I would love to also see a section for Android handheld and quickly see the arrival of Roms Customs and modified kernels.
For those who want to take the tests, the French member of the community are being Caanoo get them to see what she has in the stomach. I'm happy to keep you informed of the various tests that we will achieve.
I'm also getting one of these, looks promising with some tweaks or a new custom rom will be much better
Only 3 hr battery life? You'd think they'd be able to get more in there. But cool concept nonetheless.
Those who want to see the handheld running you can go see the videos that were made by @ BAFelton at: Sorry but i can't link URL, so Go on Youtube and search BAFelton61
It gives a good idea of what is possible.
Also, @ qbertaddict also examines the machine
Will get back to you almost certainly after the new year. Ordered it yesterday and they announced 15-20 business days until arrival
Yinlips has announced the update 2.3 (gingerbread) on the G18. This is good news to know that there is a follow-up from the manufacturer!
k0en, here too ?
Yeah i'm follow up this awesome device too, and still check what is possible to do with .... Christmas is coming...
Why not a CyanogenMod ? lol
We start collecting interesting infos:
Source: http://openlinux.amlogic.com/wiki/index.php/Arm
GPU: http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php
FYI there is an active discussion including first-hand reviews of this device on this thread:
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/new-opensource-console-announced-the-rg/
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FYI there is an active discussion including first-hand reviews of this device on this thread:
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/new-opensource-console-announced-the-rg/
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That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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k0en, here too ?
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Of course I'm All Around The Web
otherwise, it is the iReadyGo, not the G18 Yinlips. The prototype iReadyGo is not marketed. Here we talk about the G18. Is there any devs interested in working on improving it and make some changes?
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That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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At Reply #218 thay suddenly stop talking about the RG and switch to talking about the YDPG18.
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That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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At about the third page or so they start talking about the Yinlips device.
Has anyone bought this? Other than the bafbelton and qd something ? Is it work it? I only like it for the buttons
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Has anyone bought this? Other than the bafbelton and qd something ? Is it work it? I only like it for the buttons
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There are others who have bought this. You can find their videos by searching for the Yinlips device on YouTube.
nice device.. but is? only chinese or english too?
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nice device.. but is? only chinese or english too?
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From what I can see in the videos, it's Chinese by default but can be changed to English. Since it's an Android device, in theory you would eventually be able to cook custom roms for this thing.
This is a steal, even though the touchscreen is resistive the specs are very good.
My interests are in the details, though: Does the analog stick work as a mouse in android? How is the screen quality with brightness and color? How easily can ROMs be customized?
If these things met with satisfaction I would buy today.
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Has anyone gotten the peel smart remote app working with the pvr from bell? I can't seem to get it working. My next question is, has anyone actually gotten a reply from the peel support?
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Has anyone gotten the peel smart remote app working with the pvr from bell? I can't seem to get it working. My next question is, has anyone actually gotten a reply from the peel support?
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No I am from India and even the Tata Sky STB does not work it is from pace and I did get a reply from Peel CC and it was that the software is only available in US currently and will launch ii in other countries shortly
The peel software seems like a nice attempt to bring a remote control to our device, but it lacks on support and devices. Not even satellite receivers are supported.
I wish Logitech would come with an Harmony-like app.
Works just fine with my sony 47" lcd, my at&t uverse dvr, and an old sanyo tube tv... the ui is kinda funky, but it works... controls the volume, channels, etc just fine...
Joey
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No I am from India and even the Tata Sky STB does not work it is from pace and I did get a reply from Peel CC and it was that the software is only available in US currently and will launch ii in other countries shortly
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Really? I was under the impression that they had finally started to do some work on the Canadian boxes. Their help forum seems next to dead. And a Logitech app would be great! But honestly I'll settle for a lirc port that has all the buttons for my remote. The guide's a nice feature but it's like basic functionality.
Works on my Panasonic TV (at least On/Off and Source changing)
the Denon Audio On/Off works but nothing else
and Humax isn't supportet at all!
Peel is rubbish here in the UK, it controls my Samsung D8000 by changing channel and volume and thats it. We get no tv guide and other features..
Peel works great with my gear. Dish hopper, Mitsubishi dip tv, pioneer avr. Everything works as it should.
Well it works great with my LCDs both Samsung and LG but does not detect my STB even though the manufacturer is listed I think it can be fixed by an expert as its all of about the frequencies which need to be correct anyway I think thats one sore point about the tab that all other apps are great except this one may be this was intended mainly for the US markets.
Experts is there any other app which can be used
App works great for me on samsung lcd, denon reciever, and direct tv. Stupid problem/question though. My direct tv remote works fine, but i can't find channel buttons. I can manually input the number and change channel, but just no up/down buttons, or any i can find. Im new to this thing, so I could just be missing it. Thanks.
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I feel as if there's no community or customer support for this app. Their help forum gets like one post every two weeks.maybe we should all start flooding their forum, in hope that the extra attention will get them to open it up or at the last get some more codes.
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Working great here as well.I have it connected to Samsung lcd n model from 2010 vizio brand new led model and it finds all channels on our Motorola dvr cable box from insight cable company.
The remote controller itself sucks does not operate all features of device. Will test it on my old panansonic DVD player soon
In my opinion it's incomplete but nice
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why
I use Google t.v. my galaxy note phone works great as a remote and controls my pioneer tv , A/V receiver and my Shaw cable box. Why would anybody want a remote the size of a galaxy note 10.1?
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I use Google t.v. my galaxy note phone works great as a remote and controls my pioneer tv , A/V receiver and my Shaw cable box. Why would anybody want a remote the size of a galaxy note 10.1?
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Oh hello there! Very good post. I however do not have a Galaxy Note. I also do not have Google tv. I have a note 10.1. So using the included peel app is a "fun" option. My logitech harmony 900 is about 100x better though.
But please keep up the outstanding posts.
It's not that I bought my note for the remote functionality. But if I bring it with me when I watch tv I would like to take advantage of all it has to offer.
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I also have a galaxy note 10.1! I still don't see why the heck anyone would use this device as a media remote. I am glad you liked my post, it's good to see that sarcasm is alive and well in the retirement home.
OK so your sitting on the couch surfing drawing on your note.
You wanna change channel on the TV.do you sit down the note find the tv remote.change channel put remote back(most likely under couch cushions where they hide).or click 3 times.
Home key peel remote icon. Then your favorite channel thats showing in your screen..OK then back to where you were doing.
The remote is kewl if you already have it in your hand. If your not on the tab standard remote works well.
One more thing finding something new to watch is great with peel if you have it set up right with your cable provider. It shows what's on and when as well as rather its a rerun right in your face quickly and easly. Put some effort into setting it up right you then might find use for it
Imagine this scenario you have TV, home theatre, Blu ray player, STB and what would be more convinient using one tab to do ur work and also the work of 4 different remotes or use four different remotes, the whole idea is not to replace the remote but to given an option its a value addition and considering that its a good addition the whole concept of the not is it can do almost all you daily task in one device
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One more thing finding something new to watch is great with peel if you have it set up right with your cable provider. It shows what's on and when as well as rather its a rerun right in your face quickly and easly. Put some effort into setting it up right you then might find use for it
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As long as you are in the US... Anywhere else you have a REALLY limited remote control. I can't even get the guide up to see whats on. I have to scroll through each channel. Painful considering this was a big part of the advertising and it doesn't do what was advertised outside the USA...
Brings to mind the Apple Ipad 3 being advertised here in Oz as 4g capable. That's only true in certain countries... Apple got a smack over that and had to pull the false adverts...
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I use Google t.v. my galaxy note phone works great as a remote and controls my pioneer tv , A/V receiver and my Shaw cable box. Why would anybody want a remote the size of a galaxy note 10.1?
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I have google tv also- works great. i has issues with the peel app w/o GTV. The remote app with the best options for G TV is Able remote. the Gtv remote app is very limited. I know this is not on topic....sorry.
Also i do agree with Renee that if i am playing on my note 10.1 and want to change the channel i just hit switcher-dont bother grabbing the remote-- b/c mym GTV app is always open if i have the note in my hand--, than change the channel. Also can just hit microphone and voice search for anything - or simply say play led zep and bam google music opens on the TV and plays led zep....
This seems like something that should go in accessories, but Amazon just introduced a lossless streaming level, and they have a 90 day free trial on it. I'm giving it a shot! Seems like it might be made for those of us with a nice Quad-DAC phone
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This seems like something that should go in accessories, but Amazon just introduced a lossless streaming level, and they have a 90 day free trial on it. I'm giving it a shot! Seems like it might be made for those of us with a nice Quad-DAC phone
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Thanks! Did not know that. I'll have to check it out
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For those of you who try this, I'll be interested to hear if you can get anything higher than 48KHz from Amazon music HD. From reddit reports (here) and Amazon's own FAQ (here) I get the impression that they are limiting Android devices to 48KHz.
If they are indeed able to stream in full 192KHz -- or if UAPP finds a way to support it (here) then it seems a welcome competitor to Tidal and Qobuz.
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This seems like something that should go in accessories, but Amazon just introduced a lossless streaming level, and they have a 90 day free trial on it. I'm giving it a shot! Seems like it might be made for those of us with a nice Quad-DAC phone
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You'll also need worthy ear/headphones...
How know if it's 192
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For those of you who try this, I'll be interested to hear if you can get anything higher than 48KHz from Amazon music HD. From reddit reports (here) and Amazon's own FAQ (here) I get the impression that they are limiting Android devices to 48KHz.
If they are indeed able to stream in full 192KHz -- or if UAPP finds a way to support it (here) then it seems a welcome competitor to Tidal and Qobuz.
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Curious as to how to tell if it's 192, if I try Amazon's ****. Thanks.
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Curious as to how to tell if it's 192, if I try Amazon's ****. Thanks.
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The reddit link I posted contained a screenshot that displays Track Quality vs Device Capability vs Currently play at. I assume that's the Amazon app.
In any case would I also check the audio_flinger dump, as described at the bottom of this UAPP support page -- it applies to any audio player, not just to UAPP.
I am swamped right now, no time to test Amazon Music. I'll be signing up for their trial when I have more time, but probably not for a few more months.
I would recommend Tidal Master Plan if You have the 20 Bucks per Month. Amazon Music doesn't looks like a real alternative on Android thanks to the Limitations of their App...