[Q] Are the TG/KL/TL variants real? - Asus Transformer TF700

Our wiki (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ASUS_Transformer_Infinity/TF700T) states: "Three versions are available: TF700T (WIFI), TF700TG (3G) and TF700KL/TF700TL (LTE)" But I can't find the non-T variants in stores (ok, I only looked in a few places). Are they real? Are there any reviews of them? My main questions are:
* do the TG/KL/TL variants still come with wifi?
* what's the difference between KL and TL?
* KL and TL are 4G, so are they strictly better than TG?
*and probably a n00b question, but... how can 3G/4G work without a SIM card (if I have a SIM card phone, how am I supposed to get my tablet online other than the good old tethering)?

piokon said:
Our wiki (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ASUS_Transformer_Infinity/TF700T) states: "Three versions are available: TF700T (WIFI), TF700TG (3G) and TF700KL/TF700TL (LTE)" But I can't find the non-T variants in stores (ok, I only looked in a few places). Are they real? Are there any reviews of them? My main questions are:
* do the TG/KL/TL variants still come with wifi?
* what's the difference between KL and TL?
* KL and TL are 4G, so are they strictly better than TG?
*and probably a n00b question, but... how can 3G/4G work without a SIM card (if I have a SIM card phone, how am I supposed to get my tablet online other than the good old tethering)?
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The 700KL does exist (and AFAIK you need to insert a SIM card to use 3G/4G) and also support Wifi - never heard about the TG or TL.

_that said:
The 700KL does exist (and AFAIK you need to insert a SIM card to use 3G/4G) and also support Wifi - never heard about the TG or TL.
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Are you sure the KL supports wifi? I thought it was 3G/4G (KL) or wifi (T) but not both on any device.
[Edit] I just looked up the specs and it does have wifi! I stand corrected. But for that price I would just assume use my Seagate wireless HDD with internet pass-thru and free root tether as effectively the same thing for way less $$$ with an added 1TB storage capacity.

elfaure said:
Are you sure the KL supports wifi? I thought it was 3G/4G (KL) or wifi (T) but not both on any device.
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Common sense: Any smartphone supports Wifi, so why should the TF700KL not? Confirmation: read the specs on the Asus product page.

_that said:
Common sense: Any smartphone supports Wifi, so why should the TF700KL not? Confirmation: read the specs on the Asus product page.
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I did not know that ALL smartphones support wifi. I guess if they didn't then they would be dumbphones! I sure wish it has a/b/g/n. Thanks.

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[Q] Motorola XOOM + Intel WiMAX/WiFi Link 5150

Hey everyone,
I have this WiMAX/WiFi card and would love to have it working in Xoom
Intel WiMAX/WiFi Link 5150
Model: 512ANX MMW
Not so familiar with development and hacking... That's why I'm asking for help from local guru. Is there any chance to have it working?
Any clue on which way should i dig?
It looks to be fully functional under Ubuntu 10.04 (translated page here http://translate.google.com/transla...//icelord.net/wordpress/archives/2259&act=url)
PS: Sorry if this should be posted in some other place on the forum
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What service does it work through?
jshuford said:
What service does it work through?
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Didn't quite get the question.. Was it about service provider? I yes, it works with both Russian WiMAX providers (Yota and Comstar). There is no need in SIM card, autentification is based on cards MAC address. So the point is to make this card actually work and be identified by OS
I too am in moscow with the verizon xoom! Sadly, yota is on the wrong bands for the wimax that will be available for update from moto for everyone else, but it would be interesting if we could install our own hardware and drivers, so we dont have to use a hotspot when theres no free wifi.
Its certainly something to look into!
at this point, such a task is impossible. You would have to build an additional framework of massive proportions similar to how #teamwin ported wimax to cyanogenmod on the Evo. There are few in the world that good. In addition, we don't even have hc source, nor will we for the foreseeable future. Sorry guys, dead in the water. At least you can enjoy my Tiamat series kernel.
Found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12363793
Didn't understand much, but could it be useful or somehow related to getting use of built-in modem in GSM networks?
ftgg99 said:
I too am in moscow with the verizon xoom! Sadly, yota is on the wrong bands for the wimax that will be available for update from moto for everyone else, but it would be interesting if we could install our own hardware and drivers, so we dont have to use a hotspot when theres no free wifi.
Its certainly something to look into!
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Verizon's Xoom does not do WiMax. You meant LTE, which will be on the 700mhz band. WiMax is on 2.5ghz band.
LordLugard said:
You meant LTE
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Nope, he didn't mean LTE. We're talking about inserting additional card (intel 5150 in this case) into mini-pci slot that is reserved for Verizon LTE upgrade. I've got an answer from some linux guru in which he said that Android WiMax stack isn't implemented yet

[Q] Usb Network Cards

I was wondering if my carriers usb laptop data card would work on the Viewsonic G-tab for those times I am not around wifi? I would like to know before I purchase one.
sheranosuke said:
I was wondering if my carriers usb laptop data card would work on the Viewsonic G-tab for those times I am not around wifi? I would like to know before I purchase one.
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Do some digging in the DEV section. I think there is at least one thread where someone was working on that.
I also know that some of the custom kernels (Pershoot, Clemsyn) support 3G, but not sure if that includes USB or just the internal 3g Module of some of the Variants of this tablet (Z-tab, etc)

[Q] Activate 3G on the WiFi-Only version of the Xoom?

So Hawk2k8 posted a guide on how to get the 3G Xoom to work on another carrier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1016158
My question is, if we buy a Verizon 3G SIM card, can we use it on our WiFi only Xoom? What are the hardware/software differences between the 3G version and the WiFi version? Can we activate 3G on our WiFi-Only version by flashing it with the 3G image and adding a Verizon 3G SIM card?
Thanks!
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It is not possible to "activate" 3G mobile data on the WiFi Only Motorola XOOM. The WiFi only XOOM does not have the hardware required to connect to any mobile data networks. If you want to use data on the go, but only have a WiFi only XOOM I suggest you purchase a MiFi Wireless Hotspot device. Also, I would suggest you don't flash the system image from the Verizon XOOM, this could lead to a bricked XOOM.
What is missing from the WiFi version? Just the SIM card or more hardware than that?
jonnirage said:
What is missing from the WiFi version? Just the SIM card or more hardware than that?
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Doesn't even have the 3g radio hardware in it. You'd have as much luck inserting a CD ROM into it and getting it to work as you would trying to use it to get 3g service
jonnirage said:
What is missing from the WiFi version? Just the SIM card or more hardware than that?
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You would need to have a 3G radio.
lol he said a verizon 3g sim card. *slits wrists and runs through raccoon city singing we are the world"
jonnirage said:
So Hawk2k8 posted a guide on how to get the 3G Xoom to work on another carrier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1016158
My question is, if we buy a Verizon 3G SIM card, can we use it on our WiFi only Xoom? What are the hardware/software differences between the 3G version and the WiFi version? Can we activate 3G on our WiFi-Only version by flashing it with the 3G image and adding a Verizon 3G SIM card?
Thanks!
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wifi only has a slot infront of the sd card but no radio. do with that as you will lol.
you can use it to hold tiny crackers if you want
bahah why would they even put a place to insert a sim card on the wifi only?
znfrazier said:
bahah why would they even put a place to insert a sim card on the wifi only?
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Bwaaaaaahahaha no connection port there though. Just looked. Space there though. So i assume one could buy a radio and put it there. Lol.. or use it to store Barbie accessories.
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znfrazier said:
bahah why would they even put a place to insert a sim card on the wifi only?
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I assume making another bezel that would remove that slot but still have access to the microSD would cost too much to justify.
jonnirage said:
So Hawk2k8 posted a guide on how to get the 3G Xoom to work on another carrier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1016158
My question is, if we buy a Verizon 3G SIM card, can we use it on our WiFi only Xoom? What are the hardware/software differences between the 3G version and the WiFi version? Can we activate 3G on our WiFi-Only version by flashing it with the 3G image and adding a Verizon 3G SIM card?
Thanks!
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you could always use your android phone to wirelessly tether to your xoom. i just realized i can tether from my htc desire to xoom and have internet anywhere
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
you could always use your android phone to wirelessly tether to your xoom. i just realized i can tether from my htc desire to xoom and have internet anywhere
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You've hit the nail on the head. That's what i do.. why get a contract?? I must say be cafeful. I'm pushing 2gb of data almost after only three days of about three hours of use tethered to my Mytouch 4G. Crazy huh? So if you're on a verizon or att phine tethering i warn you. Beware of overages or T-Mobile's 2gb throttle.
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i beg to differ
I have a wifi only xoom, and it does indeed have a sim card tray as well as the connectors. Now it might not have a "3G" radio in it as other have said. Which I find questionable. The reason is that i know these thing are mass produce, and as stated above, it will cost motorola alot more to produce a seperate line of production.
So it make sense for both version to have similar hardware. If motorola did indeed open a seperate production line to remove or not add the 3G radio, then they could have easily use that same oppertunity to disconnet the sim tray or it's connectors. Now lets assumed they don,t have a "3G" radio 3G being the main focus, could it still work with other sim card that are not 3G and don't require a 3G radio? Like the good old 2G or Edge.
If that't not an option, Well there are several more options. The same way you have to send the 3G Xoom in for the hardware upgrade to 4G, does that not mean you can shop online for a 2G, 3G, or even 4G and do your own upgrade. Because worse case they remove the 3G radio, the slot is still there the connectors are still on the motherboard. Ifixit has a tear down.
But I personally think it's all in the gut of xoom, motorola just disable it so that it can't be active. Am not a programmer, but I believe in the long run, the wifi xoom owners will be the winner. Why? Well because for one it was $200 cheaper, even if you have to buy a radio in the future it will cost less or maybe pull one off an old cellphone (jk). And you didn't pay all that money under contract for 2 long years.
Now this is all an opinion so I don't wanna hear anyone being super technical and breaking it down, cuz am not a programmer or a repair guy, but am a hopeful owner if a Wifi Only Xoom.
supremecream06 said:
I have a wifi only xoom, and it does indeed have a sim card tray as well as the connectors. Now it might not have a "3G" radio in it as other have said. Which I find questionable. The reason is that i know these thing are mass produce, and as stated above, it will cost motorola alot more to produce a seperate line of production.
So it make sense for both version to have similar hardware. If motorola did indeed open a seperate production line to remove or not add the 3G radio, then they could have easily use that same oppertunity to disconnet the sim tray or it's connectors. Now lets assumed they don,t have a "3G" radio 3G being the main focus, could it still work with other sim card that are not 3G and don't require a 3G radio? Like the good old 2G or Edge.
If that't not an option, Well there are several more options. The same way you have to send the 3G Xoom in for the hardware upgrade to 4G, does that not mean you can shop online for a 2G, 3G, or even 4G and do your own upgrade. Because worse case they remove the 3G radio, the slot is still there the connectors are still on the motherboard. Ifixit has a tear down.
But I personally think it's all in the gut of xoom, motorola just disable it so that it can't be active. Am not a programmer, but I believe in the long run, the wifi xoom owners will be the winner. Why? Well because for one it was $200 cheaper, even if you have to buy a radio in the future it will cost less or maybe pull one off an old cellphone (jk). And you didn't pay all that money under contract for 2 long years.
Now this is all an opinion so I don't wanna hear anyone being super technical and breaking it down, cuz am not a programmer or a repair guy, but am a hopeful owner if a Wifi Only Xoom.
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A useful suggestion! Nice one!
It might be worth looking into this?
supremecream06 said:
I have a wifi only xoom, and it does indeed have a sim card tray as well as the connectors. Now it might not have a "3G" radio in it as other have said. Which I find questionable. The reason is that i know these thing are mass produce, and as stated above, it will cost motorola alot more to produce a seperate line of production.
So it make sense for both version to have similar hardware. If motorola did indeed open a seperate production line to remove or not add the 3G radio, then they could have easily use that same oppertunity to disconnet the sim tray or it's connectors. Now lets assumed they don,t have a "3G" radio 3G being the main focus, could it still work with other sim card that are not 3G and don't require a 3G radio? Like the good old 2G or Edge.
If that't not an option, Well there are several more options. The same way you have to send the 3G Xoom in for the hardware upgrade to 4G, does that not mean you can shop online for a 2G, 3G, or even 4G and do your own upgrade. Because worse case they remove the 3G radio, the slot is still there the connectors are still on the motherboard. Ifixit has a tear down.
But I personally think it's all in the gut of xoom, motorola just disable it so that it can't be active. Am not a programmer, but I believe in the long run, the wifi xoom owners will be the winner. Why? Well because for one it was $200 cheaper, even if you have to buy a radio in the future it will cost less or maybe pull one off an old cellphone (jk). And you didn't pay all that money under contract for 2 long years.
Now this is all an opinion so I don't wanna hear anyone being super technical and breaking it down, cuz am not a programmer or a repair guy, but am a hopeful owner if a Wifi Only Xoom.
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Looking at the price break down for parts: google: xoom costs $278
it looks to be about $20+ for the 3g radio that they put in the xoom if they put that in the wifi models aswell they would be loosing all that money, im pretty sure they would not do that.. and it doesn't take much for them to set their assembly robots to not add that part in, also that could be why they are released at different times. Different assembly procedures. Just a thought
theres a mini pci-e slot maybe we can install 3g radio just like laptop
This is really a possibility for the wifi xoom?
I imported mine from the US to Oz, are there any differences in bandwidth between 3G US and 3G Oz?
http://imgur.com/a/61qp6#eno2T
good luck.
wyefye said:
http://imgur.com/a/61qp6#eno2T
good luck.
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DAMN!!!!
Back to the drawing board....
well i guess I'm stuck tethering with my iphone 4 via bluetooth

[Q] question about sd card slot and 3g (not 4g)

hello all
about sd card slot, as i see in forum, it's not usable yet. why? that is a lack of hardware and will be usable after 4g upgrade? or it's just a software issue and can be used with hacking android?
and another question, the 4g will be available after hardware upgrade. how about 3g? is hardware needed for 3g , 2g (gprs) installed on device? i mean is it possible to use 3g with hacking software or it's lack of hardware
thanks in advance
ataomega said:
hello all
about sd card slot, as i see in forum, it's not usable yet. why? that is a lack of hardware and will be usable after 4g upgrade? or it's just a software issue and can be used with hacking android?
and another question, the 4g will be available after hardware upgrade. how about 3g? is hardware needed for 3g , 2g (gprs) installed on device? i mean is it possible to use 3g with hacking software or it's lack of hardware
thanks in advance
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4G is a pure hardware issue. Hardware changes need to be made, that is why the 4G upgrade, when it happens, will require the Xoom's to be brought into service centers. Nothing you do to the software can add 4G.
As for 3G, it is also a hardware question. If you bought a 3G Xoom, you have the proper hardware for 3G...if you bought a WiFi Xoom, you do not. No hacking possible or required.
If you want 3G and bought a WiFi Xoom there is a very easy fix however. Put the WiFi version on Ebay or give it to someone, and go buy a 3G model.
Quick and easy, all fixes should be like that.
rschenck said:
4G is a pure hardware issue. Hardware changes need to be made, that is why the 4G upgrade, when it happens, will require the Xoom's to be brought into service centers. Nothing you do to the software can add 4G.
As for 3G, it is also a hardware question. If you bought a 3G Xoom, you have the proper hardware for 3G...if you bought a WiFi Xoom, you do not. No hacking possible or required.
If you want 3G and bought a WiFi Xoom there is a very easy fix however. Put the WiFi version on Ebay or give it to someone, and go buy a 3G model.
Quick and easy, all fixes should be like that.
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Thanks for your reply. Mine is 3g. But when i put my sim cart nothing happens. I'm in asia, not us not uk
ataomega said:
Thanks for your reply. Mine is 3g. But when i put my sim cart nothing happens. I'm in asia, not us not uk
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Then I would suggest checking with your carrier.
Im from iran. Here we have not 3g carrier yet. Both operators here are 2g network. The carrier i use, the network is EDGE, cannot i use mysim card for gprs internet? Just like gprs in htc.
And also in setting, mobile network, i see an activation. What is that? I didnt activated yet. Is it activation for verizon carrier just in us?
For using other carrier device should be unlocked like God dang iphone or ... ?
stock browser
Also another question. I installed a few browsers but the best browser is the stock. The only problem with it is typing, for example just now, i'm wroting this o xoom but writting speed on stock browser is very very slow
What is the problem? Is there any solution? Or any better browser?
also i forgot to say that my rom is stock rom and not rooted yet
ataomega said:
Also another question. I installed a few browsers but the best browser is the stock. The only problem with it is typing, for example just now, i'm wroting this o xoom but writting speed on stock browser is very very slow
What is the problem? Is there any solution? Or any better browser?
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Typing lag is a known issue on the Xoom. Are you running 3.0.1 or 3.1? Most people say it improves with 3.1. YOu can also try rooting and installing one of the custom kernels with overclocking, either Tiamat or Launchpad. The Tiamat kernel cleared it up for me, even with moderate overclocking (1200 on mine, usually).
Lots of guides here to help you upgrade, root or install either kernel.
ataomega said:
Im from iran. Here we have not 3g carrier yet. Both operators here are 2g network. The carrier i use, the network is EDGE, cannot i use mysim card for gprs internet? Just like gprs in htc.
And also in setting, mobile network, i see an activation. What is that? I didnt activated yet. Is it activation for verizon carrier just in us?
For using other carrier device should be unlocked like God dang iphone or ... ?
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I can't say for sure, as I have a WiFI only model. Likely the Activation option is relevant for Verizon only, but put the SIM card in and choose the option, see what happens. I would assume that if your SIM card is legit, then it should work on the Xoom, but this is unknown territory for me.
Anyone using a 3G Xoom with gprs?
i use my sim card with my htc hd2 (android), i'm using gprs a lot on it
and how about sd card slot, the reason it doesnt work is lack of hardware or can be done with software hacking?
ataomega said:
and how about sd card slot, the reason it doesnt work is lack of hardware or can be done with software hacking?
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The lack of an SD card is a software issue. Use the Tiamat or Launchpad custom kernels to enable it.

4g LTE SD Card?

Just wondering if there is such a thing? We all have wifi tablets but i'd love to get an SD card that allowed you to insert your sim card into it that would allow you to essentially have a LTE tablet? a plus would be if it had 32gb of memory also
anything like this exists?
i dont know what came of it but TMoblie here in the UK when they first mentioned their 4g plans said there would be a sim/sdcard (i forget which) that would have a 4g chip and antenna or something in it to make 3g 4g... never heard of it since though
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An interesting concept, but there's not a single mobile provider who's going to let it pass into retail sales. Because if we could turn our devices into 4G by means of an SDcard, they'd miss out on all the oncome from all of us paying for another new phone/tab.
Also, you'd need a 4G data plan, anyway.
Definitely a cool idea, but never heard/seen of one. I was in the AT&T store yesterday, they have an LTE wifi hotspot device that was pretty cool, only 49.00 and would accomplish the same thing...
The TF700 doesn't have any radios for 4g unless your saying those would come in the SD card. I know they make USB sticks that will pick up 3g / 4g (at least I think) so maybe something like that would work
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97prelude said:
Just wondering if there is such a thing? We all have wifi tablets but i'd love to get an SD card that allowed you to insert your sim card into it that would allow you to essentially have a LTE tablet? a plus would be if it had 32gb of memory also
anything like this exists?
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Don't count on it. It's more than just a sim to make it work with 3/4G. You need at least an UMTS module and an extra antenna. You should have bought the LTE version instead - you will never get "native" 3/4G on your non-LTE transformer.
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In theory this is possible - there exists an interface that's electrically equivalent to SD, but supports much more than memory cards. It's called SDIO (see wikipedia article, I can't include links). Since the transformer supports 4-bit SD interface, it automatically supports SDIO. The only problem is the drivers.
Here's where practical problems start. The Linux kernel includes very few drivers for SDIO devices. So even if such device exists, Android would not be able to support it.
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In theory this is possible - there exists an interface that's electrically equivalent to SD, but supports much more than memory cards. It's called SDIO (see wikipedia article, I can't include links). Since the transformer supports 4-bit SD interface, it automatically supports SDIO. The only problem is the drivers.
Here's where practical problems start. The Linux kernel includes very few drivers for SDIO devices. So even if such device exists, Android would not be able to support it.
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You've probably solved this by now. I rooted my Evo 4G and use the Cyanomod 7.2 tethering feature. It works great. I use my sd slot for data2sd.
How did you resolve this?
i would love to have one of those
ibiesio quick
That woukd be kinda cool, but I already pay for the fantastic privlege having (no to barely any) service for my phone (sprint. As someone who switched from verizon to sprint, DON'T. Huge mistake). My phone is the reason I dont take my tablet out of the house (where theres wifi) unless im going on a trip. I assume thats how it is for most people, which is why there most likley isn't a massive market for it. I could see it being useful to people who use tabs on the job and travel. Even then, nowadays theres wifi pretty much everywhere. The added security of 4g is a plus, though. VPNs are nice but are often slow and cause issues with google and such.
SD card 3G Huawei 2014
This product is hitting the market very soon... there are several articles already on this product.
USB 3G modem
For now you can use USB 3G modem. There is an application on the Google Play, that provides support for these modems. I have successfully tested it with Huawei E173u.

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