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[Q] Is it worth it? & noob proof guide?

Is it really worth getting s-off and root on my Sensation?
What are the main advantages/disadvantages? & is there a simple way to go back to stock if my phone breaks and i need to send it to get fixed.
Also can someone link me to a noob proof guide to S-OFF and Root?
I've been looking through the development section, and there are to many guides to choose from.

Alpharev is working on a noob proof way to s-off the sensation. There is no eta for now. Should be released in a couple of weeks. You could wait for that.
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DiZzle. said:
Alpharev is working on a noob proof way to s-off the sensation. There is no eta for now. Should be released in a couple of weeks. You could wait for that.
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By "noob proof" i mean the easiest way to do it all.
I've done things with like flashing software on psps,ipods, etc before.

HTC's official unlock process should be as easy as it gets, and due sometime this month unless it's slipped back.
The stock Sensation is a pretty solid phone though. So whether it's worth unlocking depends in part on whether you're happy with your experience using it, or are tempted by features offered by custom ROMs.
I unlocked mine as soon as I could. But then for me being able to tinker around with custom ROMs is part of the appeal of Android.

www.Revoluitionary.io
Follow the the instructions,its as easy as pie.Easier than CFW and Pandora battery on psp so you should be fine, Revolutionary is well easy just download for your OS fill in the boxes then run the .bat script and enter your beta key.Also choose the option to install recovery....Download the rom you want to try, flash through recovery and let it boot

bonesy said:
www.Revoluitionary.io
Follow the the instructions,its as easy as pie.Easier than CFW and Pandora battery on psp so you should be fine, Revolutionary is well easy just download for your OS fill in the boxes then run the .bat script and enter your beta key.Also choose the option to install recovery....Download the rom you want to try, flash through recovery and let it boot
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Thanks for the link
Tonight i'll have a look at some different roms, and tomorrow when i have the time i'll give it all a try.
Does it make any difference if i have a Sensation Z710a ?

As far as i know the given link will do both the Z710a and Z710e so all should be good, Are you a TMOUS User?

sromer said:
Is it really worth getting s-off and root on my Sensation?
What are the main advantages/disadvantages? & is there a simple way to go back to stock if my phone breaks and i need to send it to get fixed.
Also can someone link me to a noob proof guide to S-OFF and Root?
I've been looking through the development section, and there are to many guides to choose from.
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Hi,
This is as noob-proof as it gets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300

bonesy said:
As far as i know the given link will do both the Z710a and Z710e so all should be good, Are you a TMOUS User?
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okay, and nope.
I have an unlocked Sensation on Virgin Mobile Australia
malybru said:
Hi,
This is as noob-proof as it gets:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
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Thanks

how to turn s-on htc one s

i need to know if anyone in the los angeles area that can put the s-on feature on my phone my friend did a root and i unrooted it and put back the stock rom but i dont know how to turn s-on in order to get updates on my phone again please helpppppp

You better tell us how he got s-off. I cant imagine he is actually.
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Did you or your friend achieve full S-OFF? If so, how? It's kind of a big deal. I personally don't think you mean Security off to security on on the bootloader; maybe you mean stock recovery?

davix0 said:
i need to know if anyone in the los angeles area that can put the s-on feature on my phone my friend did a root and i unrooted it and put back the stock rom but i dont know how to turn s-on in order to get updates on my phone again please helpppppp
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Thank you. All but I solve the issue myself now put the phone back to the original romantic and locked the bootloader and now s-on again

davix0 said:
Thank you. All but I solve the issue myself now put the phone back to the original romantic and locked the bootloader and now s-on again
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Could you tell me how did you do this, please?

so..... Somebody is playing S-on; S-off like is nothing and the whole community is struggling to achieve that....... You better elaborate on this buddy, or don't post and give hope.
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I think he meant "unlocked" bootloader, not S-OFF.
The only thing he wanted was to reclock it.
Thread should be closed as he did what he whanted to do by himself.

He's clearly stated it though twice that it was s off and now s on u can't get mixed up lol either were getting trolled or he doesn't know the benefits of s off lool
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He is most likely a noob and doesn't know the difference between s-on/off and a unlocked bootloader
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jellydroid13 said:
He is most likely a noob and doesn't know the difference between s-on/off and a unlocked bootloader
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It's hard to get mixed up tho lol
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If you don't exactly know what you do, that's not so hard to mix up...
The worst thing is that WE keep on discussing about something we all know as a mistake.

davix0 said:
i need to know if anyone in the los angeles area that can put the s-on feature on my phone my friend did a root and i unrooted it and put back the stock rom but i dont know how to turn s-on in order to get updates on my phone again please helpppppp
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Some phones (very few) are shipped s off. If it is so, then just keep it that way and update through xda. We get all the new stuff anyway
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If he really had s-off it wouldn't matter cause he wouldn't need to relock the bootloader he could flash ANYTHING he wanted. oh well thread topic looked cool for a second. Anyways...
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Just think it's a noob looking for attention. If he did want S-ON, he would've replied. I think he pretty damn well knows what S-OFF is, just wanted some attention for a few days.

He did replied to the first responce to his question and then the semi flames started for him not knowing any better. Noob for sure. He will know the difference now or and hopefully search before posting next time. Hopefully by then he knows the true status of his phone that's just something we have to deal with during this stage of a new phone. Once development picks up and there are more threads and more people posting useful information for the noobs to learn from it will make things a lot better.
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What the hell kind of One S do I have?

It's a T-Mobile branded One S, black with a red camera ring, but that's not the most interesting part:
Here's a copy of what the Bootloader screen says
*** UNLOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-T-MOB010
HBOOT-2.09.0000
RADIO-1.09ts.50.02.25
OpenDSP-v.31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
so, uh, yeah....

groovechild said:
It's a T-Mobile branded One S, black with a red camera ring, but that's not the most interesting part:
Here's a copy of what the Bootloader screen says
*** UNLOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-T-MOB010
HBOOT-2.09.0000
RADIO-1.09ts.50.02.25
OpenDSP-v.31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
so, uh, yeah....
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I believe all T-Mobile phones are s4
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groovechild said:
It's a T-Mobile branded One S, black with a red camera ring, but that's not the most interesting part:
Here's a copy of what the Bootloader screen says
*** UNLOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-T-MOB010
HBOOT-2.09.0000
RADIO-1.09ts.50.02.25
OpenDSP-v.31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
so, uh, yeah....
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You're a lucky one, consider yourself extremely lucky. You have S-OFF. Not only that, but you have a crazy bootloader version???
Can you post a screenshot of your Settings > About Phone > Software Information please?

It came with.... stuff. (you'll have to forgive me, I don't want to piss anyone off)
Right now, it has a CM10 nightly.

Send me your phone
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Sorry, that's just not happening.

Fine be that way .
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groovechild said:
It came with.... stuff. (you'll have to forgive me, I don't want to piss anyone off)
Right now, it has a CM10 nightly.
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Can you go to the original ROM?

It's a 4.0.4 rom, same as any other tmo one s

Can you post a pic? I just wanna make sure you aren't lying, I lost all of my trust in the "One s with NFC" forums :crying:

Relinquish your phone
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groovechild said:
It's a 4.0.4 rom, same as any other tmo one s
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I thought you said you had CM10?
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Dude that's impressive you've got an S-OFF'd device, what the devs have been longing for to get this device underway so to speak. Get in touch with one of the devs here they'd be very interested to hear about your device, maybe they can arrange something to figure out based on your phone how to get S-OFF for everyone...

Ah yet another thread about a magic device and this one with both CM10 and stock 4.0.4 on it. It's magic I say!

Sorry about the confusion, let me try to clear things up without telling too much. The device came with a stock 4.0.4 ROM when it was handed to me, I quickly rooted and loaded CM10 simply because I prefer that to sense. I'm not going to show a picture because I was very lucky to get this device, and I don't want to piss off anyone at HTC. As for sharing with a dev to help with s-off, if anyone wants to PM me, I'll be happy to help short of sending my device out.

groovechild said:
Sorry about the confusion, let me try to clear things up without telling too much. The device came with a stock 4.0.4 ROM when it was handed to me, I quickly rooted and loaded CM10 simply because I prefer that to sense. I'm not going to show a picture because I was very lucky to get this device, and I don't want to piss off anyone at HTC. As for sharing with a dev to help with s-off, if anyone wants to PM me, I'll be happy to help short of sending my device out.
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How exactly does taking a picture of the bootloader have negative consequences for you? It's not like HTC is going to send a hit squad to get the phone back.
Anyway hopefully a dev can figure out how to s-off based on how yours is.

How exactly does taking a picture of the bootloader have negative consequences for you? It's not like HTC is going to send a hit squad to get the phone back.
Anyway hopefully a dev can figure out how to s-off based on how yours is.
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Gentleman's got a point, this is a developer forum, screenshots of unreleased devices, modded devices and S-OFF-d devices that are not supposed to be this way are common here. Heck, even if we vote this thread to feature on the Portal and it had a screenshot, HTC still wouldn't ask for the phone back. This isn't Apple blur out the rest if you want, only way to get devs attention is to post screens to prove you're legit

Ohh i got it too . I can write all of these lines. A screen shot will tell us the truth.
If u know how to flash CM 10,that means u have some knowlegde about Android, Modding things, root ....... It can't be said that HTC 'll take it back.
One more,no serial nummers, Imei, personal datas are requested to post.Just the screen of bootloader. It'll help all the dev to come near to S-OFF,which we all need.
Regards.
P.s: correct me if i'm wrong.sr for my English.
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A screenshot will not help anyone.
Even physical access to the device will probably not help developing a method to s-off other devices.
I don't think the OP worries that HTC get angry with him, but rather with their employee or subcontractor who got him this. It doesn't matter whether or not this worry is justified.
There is no reason to doubt that it's true. This is not the first out of the box s-off device in the wild. And even if it isn't true, that's just too bad for him and nobody else.
Also, the whole thread seems a bit pointless. The OP didn't really ask anything: What kind of OneS is this? Uhm yeah...I guess he is just really happy having s-off and wants us all to be equally happy for him.
So here:
Hey groovechild, you're so lucky getting an s-off device! I'm really happy for you. :good:

touch of jobo said:
A screenshot will not help anyone.
Even physical access to the device will probably not help developing a method to s-off other devices.
I don't think the OP worries that HTC get angry with him, but rather with their employee or subcontractor who got him this. It doesn't matter whether or not this worry is justified.
There is no reason to doubt that it's true. This is not the first out of the box s-off device in the wild. And even if it isn't true, that's just too bad for him and nobody else.
Also, the whole thread seems a bit pointless. The OP didn't really ask anything: What kind of OneS is this? Uhm yeah...I guess he is just really happy having s-off and wants us all to be equally happy for him.
So here:
Hey groovechild, you're so lucky getting an s-off device! I'm really happy for you. :good:
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The weirdest thing isn't S-OFF, but the HBOOT version number.
What is the dd command to extract HBOOT? Could he post it?

[Q] Can Rooted and Unlocked xl get OTA update?

If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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as long as you stay on the stock room you should get the OTA update. Issue though is, you might lose root and possibly your unlock

trevorb21 said:
If, and I mean if ATT ever updates to 4.1 would I be able to load that if I choose or would I
have to re-lock??
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If you're going to root and unlock, you should forget about OTAs. You may get one, but taking it when you're rooted can brick your phone. There's no need to take one anyway, since pre-rooted versions usually show up in the Development section that day.

If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it

Thanks all... actually went back to CM 10 last night. I had relocked and everything hoping for an update someday but I couldn't help it and had to go back to Cm. Battery life seems much better on the latest nightly compared to the stable version.
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If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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tlazarus said:
If a rooted / hboot 1.14 bootloader unlocked phone with super CID is unable to take an OTA without bricking, how does one get a new radio, wifi firmware, etc.? Please don't say downgrading hboot, because I am already familiar with that somewhat dangerous approach. Others are suggesting that if one's bootloader is relocked and a stock ruu flashed, OTAs are safe. Is this not true?
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I bricked after relocking and running ruu but to be fair I downgraded my hboot to 1.09 and am not sure if that had anything to do with it.. good luck..dunno why you would want the ota anyway.

It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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tlazarus said:
It is not that I necessarily want the OTA. I am concerned that an important radio update will come along, or something else that requires a full ruu, and I will be SOL. This HTC thing is driving me crazy - my Atrix was so easy to work with. I have yet to see a jb ROM that was 100% stable for 100% of people, so not having the option of using a stock ruu if it is available scares me.
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I have noticed that typically when things are not stable right away for me it was a bad download or just a bad flash. A stock based ROM like viper has always been stable for me and am currently using paranoid android also perfectly stable. In any case, once the source for the ota is released devs will most likely use that as a base for their next upgrades so I really wouldn't worry about it.

mirGantrophy said:
If your CID is 11111111 and you take the OTA, your phone will most likely brick.. so avoid it
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My CID is 11111111 and I have taken many OTA's. I have switched and changed ROM's and reRUU'ed many times. From Hong Kong to German to Telstra. Taking OTA's all over the place. I would say my phone has at least done 8 official HTC OTA's.
Not once has it bricked.
Is it some check AT&T ROM's do?
Personally I have found unlocked bootloader and supercid do not effect an OTA. Modifications to /system are more likely to be troublesome. They are likely to be lost or could even make the update fail.

See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.

tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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You're just unintelligent...

tlazarus said:
See, this is exactly why I can't necessarily trust much of what I hear about the HOX. I wish the official resources thread would answer this, and the answer woud be provided by experienced HOX devs.
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Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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954wrecker said:
Trust at&t they know what's best for your type
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Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.

tlazarus said:
Wow - you guys are so helpful. What exactly is my type? Someone who knows enough about hardware to believe that there is more than just front end changes included in some OTA/RUU updates? Turge had to include a wifi update to make Viper stable for some people. I am sure you two knew exactly what the problem was as soon as the ROM came out, including all of the necessary changes, the partitions involved, etc. You've pretty much just proved you are idiots if you believe that there is nothing else included in an RUU other than system and hboot updates.
Oh, and thanks for making me miss the Atrix forum some more. The people were actually nice there. I didn't realize that I should check out the XDA forums before buying a phone - the Nexus folks can't be any worse than you two.
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Thank you for giving me a good laugh... The forums being kind and your intelligence level are directly proportional...because you're a stuck up noob you are getting the treatment you deserve...and your type is for the iPhone or better yet a flip phone from a couple years back you won't have to worry about software changes on that...I'm still kind curious what you're trying to get at? I'm a bit confused how you're comparing hardware and ruu and ota

Okay, really not sure how I am a stuck up noob. Or unintelligent, as I am perfectly capable of reading lots of threads where people who seem to know what they are talking about argue over one's ability to go back to stock using a RUU. I was merely looking for confirmation from more than one person that I could go back to stock using a RUU and then apply the OTA if necessary. My point was simply that if something came out that was not possible to implement via a ROM - i.e. a radio update, I wanted the ability to flash it. Without downgrading hboot, it appears that anyone with hboot 1.14 is STUCK WITH THEIR PRESENT RADIO. There is conflicting info out there regarding one's ability to go back to stock using an RUU and then apply the OTA in the future, and I was merely trying to confirm that this was possible. If you look in this thread, you will see one person say it is perfectly safe, and another that it will brick the phone. Care to decide who is right? I generally like to get a few opinions before I task a risk, but apparently you don't get that. It is a perfectly reasonable question.

Here's a straight answer.... That's a bit risky going back to stock through ruu than applying an ota I've seen many people brick that way idk if it's just because the cid is 11111111 or whatever but there's something in the system that the ota doesn't like and than rejects..though I do not see the point of doing an ota esepcially many involve huge security updates ie hboot as you stated which will probably result in no root. . I can confidently assure you att will bring out a new nazi hboot out with the jb update too...so my advice would be to stick to non stock and enjoy

Thanks - I appreciate the response. Still a bit concerned about being stuck on my present radio, but perhaps that will get resolved in the future. Have a great weekend.

I'm sire your aware but you can downgrade hboot

Thanks, yes. I've read the entire downgrade thread a few times. It appears that more than one person has bricked their phone, and that isn't a risk I can take right now.

Return to stock

Hello xda members,
I ran into a problem the other day. My nandroid is no longer with me due to a defective hard drive . I now decided I want to return to stock to sell the phone.
I'm on hboot 1.27 and iam s off.
I want to flash an ruu, the phone is the Europe/international version. These forums are so big that I do not know where to start looking for ruu's, neither do I know what type I need since I have numberous phones and always kept a nandroid ..
Is there anyone that can either push me I'm the right direction or even give me a link to an htc ruu website?
Thanks in advance.
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Stefan0vic said:
Hello xda members,
I ran into a problem the other day. My nandroid is no longer with me due to a defective hard drive . I now decided I want to return to stock to sell the phone.
I'm on hboot 1.27 and iam s off.
I want to flash an ruu, the phone is the Europe/international version. These forums are so big that I do not know where to start looking for ruu's, neither do I know what type I need since I have numberous phones and always kept a nandroid ..
Is there anyone that can either push me I'm the right direction or even give me a link to an htc ruu website?
Thanks in advance.
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I've come this far:
My cid is VODAPE17
and my version main is 3.32.401.5
All I can find is europe RUU's, with a different radio. Are these safe to flash?

Stefan0vic said:
Hello xda members,
I ran into a problem the other day. My nandroid is no longer with me due to a defective hard drive . I now decided I want to return to stock to sell the phone.
I'm on hboot 1.27 and iam s off.
I want to flash an ruu, the phone is the Europe/international version. These forums are so big that I do not know where to start looking for ruu's, neither do I know what type I need since I have numberous phones and always kept a nandroid ..
Is there anyone that can either push me I'm the right direction or even give me a link to an htc ruu website?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094380
or here
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
Since your phone is s-off you can write supercid to it and choose any RUU, but stick with the latest WWE ones.
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After supercid I suggest this one:
RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.53_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_280871_signed.exe

nlooooo said:
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094380
or here
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
Since your phone is s-off you can write supercid to it and choose any RUU, but stick with the latest WWE ones.
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After supercid I suggest this one:
RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.33.401.53_Radio_11.76A.3504.00U_11.24A.3504.31_M_release_280871_signed.exe
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Returned to stock succesfully
Case closed! Thanks!