Transfer Upgrade option gone - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I logged into my account a few days ago and was poking around and saw that my transfer upgrade button is gone! I am happy with my S3 but thought I might try the S4 but definitely not going to lose my unlimited plan. I did a quick chat with a representative and they said the option is still available and they weren't sure why it was gone from my online account. I will go to a store and see them if I do decide to try the S4. Has anyone else noticed this? I have 4 phones and 2 are eligible for upgrades 3 that have unlimited data so I was using the one that didn't for my upgrades. Thanks!

Does this apply to you?
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/1...pgrade-cycles-changing-to-24-months-and-more/
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It did as far as me losing my NE2. My phone was due for an upgrade in 02/2011 and I have not used it since. I have 4 phones on my account with no other devices. I have used a transfer once and bought a phone off CL once to save my unlimited. I will go back to the V store and see if the gentleman who helped me last time is still there. Thanks!
Shawn

starbiker99 said:
It did as far as me losing my NE2. My phone was due for an upgrade in 02/2011 and I have not used it since. I have 4 phones on my account with no other devices. I have used a transfer once and bought a phone off CL once to save my unlimited. I will go back to the V store and see if the gentleman who helped me last time is still there. Thanks!
Shawn
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Hi guys! First post, I use to be a Verizon employee. I was in the same situation with the transfer upgrade option disappearing on me. I noticed that it was because all my lines qualified for upgrades so there was "no need" to transfer an upgrade from one line to another (other than the fact there is a known loophole to keep unlimited data)

What is this loophole you speak of. In due for a upgrade in December and I want to keep my unlimited.
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Droid316 said:
What is this loophole you speak of. In due for a upgrade in December and I want to keep my unlimited.
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I want a loophole!
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Transfer the upgrade to a line that you don't care about unlimited data, upgrade that line, get new phone in mail, activate onto that line, then do a device switch to your unlimited data line.
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Too bad I don't think this will work since I there are 2 smart phones and 2 non smart phones and my parents like Dino tech and my brother and I each like unlimited data ha.
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ricecake2000 said:
Too bad I don't think this will work since I there are 2 smart phones and 2 non smart phones and my parents like Dino tech and my brother and I each like unlimited data ha.
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Transfer your upgrade to your dinosaur parents line.. Upgrade to the latest tech.. Activate new tech on parents line... THEN DO THE DEVICE SWITCH
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple VZW GSIII

Well I want to keep my current gs3 and keep my unlimited data but just resign for another two years without buying a new phone.
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Transfer the upgrade from your unlimited line to ANY line that DOES NOT have unlimited data. Once you get the phone, activate the phone first on the line that doesn't have unlimited data, then switch it back afterwards.
I spoke with a few co workers, they told me this does not work anymore, however you can still upgrade the line that doesn't have unlimited data and switch the phone over. They said the transferring upgrade loophole doesn't work anymore.
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Droid316 said:
Well I want to keep my current gs3 and keep my unlimited data but just resign for another two years without buying a new phone.
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if you did not buy a phone, why would you sign another two year contract?

krazyxtacy said:
Transfer the upgrade from your unlimited line to ANY line that DOES NOT have unlimited data. Once you get the phone, activate the phone first on the line that doesn't have unlimited data, then switch it back afterwards.
I spoke with a few co workers, they told me this does not work anymore, however you can still upgrade the line that doesn't have unlimited data and switch the phone over. They said the transferring upgrade loophole doesn't work anymore.
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if you did not buy a phone, why would you sign another two year contract?
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He is paranoid... He wants to be locked in a contract with unlimited data so VZS wont take his unlimited away as soon he goes month-to-month
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He is paranoid... He wants to be locked in a contract with unlimited data so VZS wont take his unlimited away as soon he goes month-to-month
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If I go month to month can I still keep my unlimited data?
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Droid316 said:
If I go month to month can I still keep my unlimited data?
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Yes they cannot take it away from you without your consent.

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Yes they cannot take it away from you without your consent.
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Yes they can. Once you're out of contract they can do whatever. There's nothing binding them from changing stuff. They won't for a while but they definitely have the ability to if they want to.
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Yes they can. Once you're out of contract they can do whatever. There's nothing binding them from changing stuff. They won't for a while but they definitely have the ability to if they want to.
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What he said. No contract, they can do what they want. And i definitely wouldn't put it past Verizon.

Well damn i have heard so many people keeping their unlimited data but they all have different answers/loopholes.My main concern is keeping unlimited with a new contract or month to month doesnt matter to me.

countryfolk07 said:
What he said. No contract, they can do what they want. And i definitely wouldn't put it past Verizon.
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I agree that I wouldn't put it past them, they changed our commission structure at least 4 times since I've worked there. But, I've had customers with plans so old that our phones no longer support. Look up "digital choice" plans if u are interested. Anyways, Verizon forced them to changed to the newer plans when they upgraded to any phone, which is almost the same situation here.
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Hi All
Just my 2cent.
Loopholes on VZW to keep your Unlimited Data plan.
i just activate 2 S4 onto 2 of my lines with Unlimited Data by doing upgrade on 2 diff line under the same acct. By the way, before the switch over o the S4, both line are under iphone4 which Unlimited Data on 3G and after the switch is it under Unlimited Data for 4G.
Just order a new phone under limited data line and activated for 24 hours. After 24hrs call up VZW customer service and have them switch the phone to the Unlimited Data line. Yes, its doable and VZW can't do much to it.
I just have them switch over couples day ago.
Just my 2cent,... :laugh:

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Transfer your upgrade to your dinosaur parents line.. Upgrade to the latest tech.. Activate new tech on parents line... THEN DO THE DEVICE SWITCH
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple VZW GSIII
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Almost there. You need to temporarily convert the dumb phone line to data, do the upgrade/switch upgrade, then transfer the new phone to your line, then degrade the dumb phone line back to a basic line. Do this within 15 minutes (or some number like that) and you will be fine. Ask me how I know?:angel:

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AT&T account transfer. Will my unlimited data stay intact?

I just upgraded to a Skyrocket a week ago. My phone is on a plan under my ex-girlfriends name. We both have unlimited data on my phone and her iphone. She has begrudgingly initiated to process to transfer the billing of my phone into my own name and account. If I complete the transfer process, will I maintain my unlimited data?
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I just upgraded to a Skyrocket a week ago. My phone is on a plan under my ex-girlfriends name. We both have unlimited data on my phone and her iphone. She has begrudgingly initiated to process to transfer the billing of my phone into my own name and account. If I complete the transfer process, will I maintain my unlimited data?
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AT&T should keep the plan exactly the same, so I don't think they will change it.
If they do, call them and explain, the rep can re-add Unlimited Data.
I assume they'll have to do some changing. We split a certain amount of minutes and, because it's a family plan, she takes advantage of some free "top 10" list of land line numbers she can call without draining her minutes. Not caring if she loses a few things... but I'd hate to lose my data plan. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes. Thanks.
I'd be surprised if you kept the unlimited data seeing as how they have to create a new account for you, but I wish you the best of luck! Are you a heavy data user anyway?
Not really. I'd be okay with 2G but would probably pay for the 4G with tethering. If I listen to music or watch video:
a) it would probably be on my 64G iTouch or
b) it would be media I stored on the phone rather than streamed.
They transferred my Unlimited over from my old iPhone plan to the 4G LTE Skyrocket plan. It has a different name on the bill but still says unlimited which was the important part for me.
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I just upgraded to a Skyrocket a week ago. My phone is on a plan under my ex-girlfriends name. We both have unlimited data on my phone and her iphone. She has begrudgingly initiated to process to transfer the billing of my phone into my own name and account. If I complete the transfer process, will I maintain my unlimited data?
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Doing a trans of billing responsibility is just like starting up a new acct. Unlim data will not be transferred.
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Justinfedor said:
Doing a trans of billing responsibility is just like starting up a new acct. Unlim data will not be transferred.
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Thing is, I think they just didn't want to deal with the *****ing that would occur if they removed unlimited, so they gave it to him.
d451d said:
They transferred my Unlimited over from my old iPhone plan to the 4G LTE Skyrocket plan. It has a different name on the bill but still says unlimited which was the important part for me.
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Nice, it's called LTE Enterprise Unlimited I think, right?
You will keep your unlimited data plan it's not a new number to att its just a lateral move so you can keep you will get a 4g lte plan i know cause i work for att.
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You will keep your unlimited data plan it's not a new number to att its just a lateral move so you can keep you will get a 4g lte plan i know cause i work for att.
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At first they were insisting that I would have to pick a new data plan but because this took 45 minutes on the phone with serveral bogus credit and identity check transfers to chinese people who don't speak english well, and ONLY because I upgraded my hardware before separating the accounts, which she said was a very smart move, she was able to grandfather my unlimited data in. Happy camper.
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Thing is, I think they just didn't want to deal with the *****ing that would occur if they removed unlimited, so they gave it to him.
Nice, it's called LTE Enterprise Unlimited I think, right?
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They will switch data plans on the same acct if upgrading phones but starting a new acct even with the same number will disqualify the Unlim data plan
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You will keep your unlimited data plan it's not a new number to att its just a lateral move so you can keep you will get a 4g lte plan i know cause i work for att.
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I work for Att also and if you do ur research they will not move it. Maybe ur managers or supervisors made a case to have it added on the new acct. As per Att if u remove or do a tobr you will not get to keep the Unlim or get it back. Idk what site u are at but id love to know so i can give feedback
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I just upgraded to a Skyrocket a week ago. My phone is on a plan under my ex-girlfriends name. We both have unlimited data on my phone and her iphone. She has begrudgingly initiated to process to transfer the billing of my phone into my own name and account. If I complete the transfer process, will I maintain my unlimited data?
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The answer to this question is a guaranteed NO. I already spoke with an AT&T representative regarding this. I was planning on purchasing a cell phone contract under someone else name on craigslist and AT&T said they will void the unlimited data because of the change in name will cause a change in contract thus a change in plans and policies. BUT this is what an AT&T rep told me, maybe other reps are different. Something about their policy will screw you over...

Mother was conned into share everything.

Well my sister used her upgrade today, and switched to the share everything plan after the guy told her we were using under 4gb a month. Lies? I've been consistently using 20gb+ a month.
Something sketchy is going on. It was good while it lasted, I guess.
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Yup I switched to it (share everything) eliminated my unlimited data plan I think share everything was a ploy to get rid of all the grandfather unlimited data users
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I switched too. We aren't heavy data users and the bill was dropped 10 bucks.
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I GOT THE UNLIMITED BACK!
My mother got very pissed when the verizon guy said she's going to have $150 in overages due to my data usage this month so far. That didn't fly, and needless to say, the guy changed it back very quickly
So there is hope if you call to change it back quickly.
Use 100GB next billing cycle
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Use 100GB next billing cycle
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There is no such thing as savings when considering share everything.
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cmg5461 said:
Well my sister used her upgrade today, and switched to the share everything plan after the guy told her we were using under 4gb a month. Lies? I've been consistently using 20gb+ a month.
Something sketchy is going on. It was good while it lasted, I guess.
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I consistently use around 500MB a month, how do you use 20GB?
Seriously though, of course it was a ploy to get rid of the grandfathered plans, to a degree. Considering ATT said at one time that most people use less than 2GB of data and Verizon's site suggests that most people use between 1-3GB of data, I don't see what the problem is allowing those on unlimited data plans to remain so. Thankfully, I have WiFi.
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I consistently use around 500MB a month, how do you use 20GB?
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Who gives a ****?
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cmg5461 said:
I GOT THE UNLIMITED BACK!
My mother got very pissed when the verizon guy said she's going to have $150 in overages due to my data usage this month so far. That didn't fly, and needless to say, the guy changed it back very quickly
So there is hope if you call to change it back quickly.
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tell your mom to add me to her plan
I use about 15-20gigs a month on Netflix, and for tethering when I'm at work to play online games on my laptop, and to update and download steam games as I only have a 1.5 connection at home vs a 30Mbps for 4g
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Glad you got it back! I use 13+ gigs on mine and I'm connected to wifi at home haha
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There is no such thing as savings when considering share everything.
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For some there are. When we came back to Verizon from Sprint we piggy backed off of my in laws business plan. Him switching to share everything dropped his account by $150 and that is AFTER adding our 3 lines. I just use WiFi when I'm home, our home internet is unlimited through our local telephone company.
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Well, I have a 10Gb limit / week at college, so all of my big downloads go onto the data plan. This month I downloaded autocad inventor 2013 for giggles. But at work I am constantly using google drive to transfer photos from my phone to use in my work place. I'm taking about 100-200 pictures a day of various tests. It is just easier to transfer them that way than pulling out the usb drive and fussing with drivers on corporate computers.
Yeah i didnt have $600 to pay for the phone to keep my unlimited plan. So i got pushed onto the 2gb plan last week when i upgraded the phone. Is there any way I can get unlimited back?? I really want to use this phone a lot more then i did my old dinc. It sucks the 2gb limit is going to **** me over. How did you get it back. I really want it back!
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I'm on wifi at home and at work so I barely use any data.
I still preordered to stay on unlimited, just on principle.
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equisbox said:
Yeah i didnt have $600 to pay for the phone to keep my unlimited plan. So i got pushed onto the 2gb plan last week when i upgraded the phone. Is there any way I can get unlimited back?? I really want to use this phone a lot more then i did my old dinc. It sucks the 2gb limit is going to **** me over.
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You probably should have kept your dinc.
equisbox said:
Yeah i didnt have $600 to pay for the phone to keep my unlimited plan. So i got pushed onto the 2gb plan last week when i upgraded the phone. Is there any way I can get unlimited back?? I really want to use this phone a lot more then i did my old dinc. It sucks the 2gb limit is going to **** me over. How did you get it back. I really want it back!
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Lesson learned, don't take free upgrades.... you don't need the latest greatest phone for cheaper more than you need a lower bill. Wait a few months then buy one in the xda classifieds when the next greatest phone comes out. Tons of people will be clamouring to trade or sell there three month old phone. Then they can get enough money so there one week paycheck plus what ever they sell there phone for will give them enough to purchase the galaxy s4.
It happens in cycles here, I bought a galaxy nexus for 250 on eBay like new for Verizon about a month ago. When this phone first came out it was going for close to 600 or more in the forums. Grant it, it is getting older but the tech really is not improving much. Unless you think a quad core will make a difference playing angry birds?
I will never willingly give up my unlimited data for the next best device. I may be behind, but guess what I'm streaming data over 4g in my house that has an unlimited Wi-Fi connection already, and i don't care.
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Honestly,
Firstly, verizon has a pretty great network.
I came from ATT and I can attest to the problems they have with data. Being that I lived in Las Vegas, a highly urbanized center with over a million people, and actually one of the very first 3g networks in the country, a place that should (that is SHOULD) have a massive infrastructure, I can tell you that ATT has huge issues in terms of network reliability and consistency.
So now it comes to Verizon and their network. Seeing as they have invested a massive amount into building a pretty good 4G LTE network, and that they honestly do provide great service, is it too much to ask them to want to make a profit? Probably not.
Do not get me wrong, I am not in any way saying that they do not make enough money. My recent arguments with them that led me to nearly leave them should prove that. I managed to get my way, but that way actually involved me having to also give up my unlimited data plan.
What are you doing each month that requires 20gb of data. I would wager that a lot of that usage would be mobile hotspot, or using your phone in a rather unconventional manner.
So now the question is whether it is reasonable to expect you as the end user to use their product as they would imagine you should. You are not racking up 20 gigabytes of usage being an average user, are you?
So then they come out with tiered plans.
Guess what, you choose what fits your needs, and make concessions. We all do this every day. You do not NEED to have a car that goes 250 mph, you may purchase one, and you pay a huge premium for that.
Back to the point here.
For years and years, we in the united states had silver spoons in our mouths in terms of mobile data. It was always unlimited. The minutes and text messages cost us money, and the phone companies could not really monetize data, or they just did not want to until they noticed that they were losing calling minutes and text messages to apps that would do the same things.
Now they want to charge for the services they provide.
And people suddenly have an ISSUE with this?
Do you pay a flat rate for all you can consume water?
Or heating oil, natural gas or whatever else you use to keep warm in the winter?
Does Shell or Exxon sell you an all you can eat plan for gasoline?
Does water flow free, as much as you can use, forever and ever?
Data is more like a utility than ever, and in the coming years, decades, etc the world and commerce will be largely measured in access to data and services.
Just deal with it, and learn to connect to wifi, or do whatever else you need to do without sucking bandwidth and then complaining when they want to make you know... money off of you for using THEIR services.
So can i still cancle the phone upgrade and go back to the dinc? And will that lead to getting my old plan back? Ive only had the phone for week.
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Upgraded 3days ago . And still shows unlimited data

Is that normal ? Placed the order on my phone last Friday got the phone this last Wednesday . I log in my Verizon account still showing unlimited data . Kinda glad about that . And scared to call Verizon . What to do ?
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Same thing happened to me. Still showed up with unlimited so just enjoy it.
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a few other members reported the same thing...if you stand your ground with verizon, they will bend!
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Same thing happened to me. Still showed up with unlimited so just enjoy it.
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Ddoes it still show urban old phone on ur profile with Verizon ? It still shows on mine that I have the droid Razr . How long has it been since u upgraded . ??
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I just upgraded yesterday and my verizon wireless account already reflects the new phone and new data plan. What hasn't updated is the phone minutes (forced into share anything). My wifes phone still shows $30 for unlimited data. I found out I could have stayed with unlimited 4G LTE if I didn't get a new subsidized phone, but since we use less than 1gb per month (heavy on home wifi use) we're saving about 30 per month. This december we can ditch a dummy line I used to get an upgrade a year ago, and my total bill will come to $50 than what we were paying for the unlimited data \ 1400 family plan, so I can't really complain.
I just want to make a couple points here. (I still have unlimited data and signed a new contract in july)
Firstly, always stand your ground. Now that phones are unlockable and usable with any carrier, the worst thing they can hear is you've decided to break the contract and go to another company.
Secondly, you're paying $30 dollars for data.Think about this for a second. You're paying $30 to your carrier by force, and they try to steer you toward using WiFi as much as possible. If you're going to provide me a service, provide it to me. Don't take my money and then tell me to get my service from somewhere else.
My account still shows unlimited as well as showing my new phone and I upgraded well past the cut off date.
The second it changes I'm going to call and raise hell. Mainly on the grounds that when I upgraded through a Best Buy Mobile Site the only option I was given was to keep my same plan. "So I never had any idea" and was never told I would lose unlimited data. LOL. Of course I will also play the "well if I'm going to be sprung with serious changes to my contract with no warning then I will be going to a new carrier immediately" card if I have to. Who knows maybe I will get lucky. However, until it changes on its own I'm letting sleeping dogs lie and I suggest anyone else in the same boat do the same.
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made me laugh a bit, clever!
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made me laugh a bit, clever!
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Just pray it was a glitch in the system and it sticks. Recently upgraded and lost my beloved unlimited data plan, but I am enjoying my new sexy toy and that's all that matters.
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SMR-DINO313 said:
Is that normal ? Placed the order on my phone last Friday got the phone this last Wednesday . I log in my Verizon account still showing unlimited data . Kinda glad about that . And scared to call Verizon . What to do ?
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that's good for you, just keep until they catch you lol.
Lucky dog you are, kinda wish i still had my unlimited, but in the end having a 10gb plan im saving over $50 and our history never showed us even using more then 2-3gb, but now were all on 4g phones soaking that data up, we'll see what happens.
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Lucky dog you are, kinda wish i still had my unlimited, but in the end having a 10gb plan im saving over $50 and our history never showed us even using more then 2-3gb, but now were all on 4g phones soaking that data up, we'll see what happens.
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I used to hotspot my phone . All the time I was home actually canceled Comcast and was on the ps3 online of my razr and thunderbolt . So my history is kinda over 100 Gb every month . When I upgraded I signed up for Comcast again and wifii ing it every chance I get . I hope this glitch stays .
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SMR-DINO313 said:
Is that normal ? Placed the order on my phone last Friday got the phone this last Wednesday . I log in my Verizon account still showing unlimited data . Kinda glad about that . And scared to call Verizon . What to do ?
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I think you'll be fine, I just called this last friday to upgrade and was able to keep unlimited so there are exceptions being made.
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I think you'll be fine, I just called this last friday to upgrade and was able to keep unlimited so there are exceptions being made.
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Yeah did u place the upgrade over the phone ? Thats what I did . The rep stated my plan will change so I picked the 2GBP plan . But still on unlimited. I noticed on my Verizon profile online it still says I'm using the droid Razr . My billing cycle will end in 2 days so we will c if any changes will be done . By the way when I got the gs3 in the mail I didn't get a micro SIM with it . So I used the SIM that was in my razr. U think thats why I'm still on unlimited ? And showing I'm still using the razr ?
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Yeah did u place the upgrade over the phone ? Thats what I did . The rep stated my plan will change so I picked the 2GBP plan . But still on unlimited. I noticed on my Verizon profile online it still says I'm using the droid Razr . My billing cycle will end in 2 days so we will c if any changes will be done . By the way when I got the gs3 in the mail I didn't get a micro SIM with it . So I used the SIM that was in my razr. U think thats why I'm still on unlimited ? And showing I'm still using the razr ?
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Yea, I called in but the rep I spoke to confirmed that I would be able to keep unlimited. She said she had to upgrade it to the 2gb plan but then she went right back in and reverted it back to the old plan. It doesn't sound like your rep did that and you might see the plan change when this cycle ends, that's probably when the phone model will update as well. I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered this wed. but the same rep is supposed to call on wed afternoon to activate so I'll confirm again. Also my cycle ends tomorrow so I should be able to see any changes to my account.
I asked the Verizon employee very specifically about keeping my unlimited data. If I did not use the upgrade and brought my own phone in, I could keep my unlimited data. Test being said, our total bill for three phones was $170. The new share everything plan ended up being cheaper at $150 per month.
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mdt73 said:
I asked the Verizon employee very specifically about keeping my unlimited data. If I did not use the upgrade and brought my own phone in, I could keep my unlimited data. Test being said, our total bill for three phones was $170. The new share everything plan ended up being cheaper at $150 per month.
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How many gb did you get? I have 2 smart phones and on 3g it added up to 6-8 gb a month, I think on 4g it will easily hit 12+ gb.
I just went to the Verizon store with my dad so that he could upgrade his blackberry storm to an s3. He had unlimited data, they tried to switch him to shared everything using that crap about the unlimited plans being done. A little complaining and they got in touch with the legacy plan department at vzw and let him keep his unlimited plan
Win!
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I just went to the Verizon store with my dad so that he could upgrade his blackberry storm to an s3. He had unlimited data, they tried to switch him to shared everything using that crap about the unlimited plans being done. A little complaining and they got in touch with the legacy plan department at vzw and let him keep his unlimited plan
Win!
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If they end up changing my plan I'm calling them and start hell with them to put me back on the unlimited plan
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One XL without LTE

I think I understand the logic behind this question, but I'm going to ask anyway because I want to see if there are any policy pitfalls before I take the plunge and purchase a One XL. This specifically is about AT&T and their LTE network.
I have an Inspire 4G on the AT&T network and I would like to buy the One XL and just transfer my SIM card (by either cutting mine down or by stopping by an AT&T store and purchasing one of the mini SIM cards). I don't want to have to sign up for a new contract because I have an old grandfathered data plan (unlimited) and I don't need the LTE network... I'm perfectly happy with the HSPDA speeds I've been receiving.
Has anyone done something similar or ran into any problems with attaining a new SIM card and not having to move to a new data plan?
On a side note, I was going to give my Inspire 4G to my girlfriend to replace her Iphone 3GS. I understand the SIM card is the same size and she doesn't have an Iphone specific plan... it's basic voice + unlimited data for smartphones. Anyone have issues with that type of transfer either?
Just go to an AT&T store, and they should give you a MicroSIM for free, as they usually do for account holders.
Further, you do want to add LTE to your account. You can do so and keep your unlimited data plan. You just have to be specific about telling them to do it, and make sure they do it right. Its not completely straighforward for them. It took them about 15 minutes to figure out how to do it, and the rep had to call his manager over. They technically need to put you on a "new" data plan, but it says "unlimited data with LTE" and its only available for grandfathered customers. Its really the same plan you were on before, just with LTE added. Its no extra fee, you keep unlimited data, and you get the smoking fast LTE speeds. Plus your cap before getting throttled goes up to 5 GB, versus 3 GB for non-LTE plans.
Whether you want to stay off contract, and just pay full retail for the phone, versus subsidized pricing and an additional 2 year commitment is up to you. But all I've mentioned above should be true in either case.
Your GF should be fine putting her SIM into your old Inspire.
sarichter said:
I think I understand the logic behind this question, but I'm going to ask anyway because I want to see if there are any policy pitfalls before I take the plunge and purchase a One XL. This specifically is about AT&T and their LTE network.
I have an Inspire 4G on the AT&T network and I would like to buy the One XL and just transfer my SIM card (by either cutting mine down or by stopping by an AT&T store and purchasing one of the mini SIM cards). I don't want to have to sign up for a new contract because I have an old grandfathered data plan (unlimited) and I don't need the LTE network... I'm perfectly happy with the HSPDA speeds I've been receiving.
Has anyone done something similar or ran into any problems with attaining a new SIM card and not having to move to a new data plan?
On a side note, I was going to give my Inspire 4G to my girlfriend to replace her Iphone 3GS. I understand the SIM card is the same size and she doesn't have an Iphone specific plan... it's basic voice + unlimited data for smartphones. Anyone have issues with that type of transfer either?
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I bought a One X and was able to keep my unlimited data. Also, when you go to an LTE data plan the data throttle cap for unlimited plans goes from 3GB to 5GB. There is plenty of reason to add LTE to your unlimited plan unless you really don't want a contract.
Looks like all of that was already pointed out. So X2 it.
Butters619 said:
There is plenty of reason to add LTE to your unlimited plan unless you really don't want a contract.
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You don't need a new contract commitment to add LTE. Really there is no reason not to add LTE
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You don't need a new contract commitment to add LTE. Really there is no reason not to add LTE
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That's true. My bad. Slip in my thought process.
Maybe, just maybe, if you truly wanted better battery life you wouldn't want LTE (since there is no way to disable it on the AT&T One X). Lol.
redpoint73 said:
Just go to an AT&T store, and they should give you a MicroSIM for free, as they usually do for account holders.
Further, you do want to add LTE to your account. You can do so and keep your unlimited data plan. You just have to be specific about telling them to do it, and make sure they do it right. Its not completely straighforward for them. It took them about 15 minutes to figure out how to do it, and the rep had to call his manager over. They technically need to put you on a "new" data plan, but it says "unlimited data with LTE" and its only available for grandfathered customers. Its really the same plan you were on before, just with LTE added. Its no extra fee, you keep unlimited data, and you get the smoking fast LTE speeds. Plus your cap before getting throttled goes up to 5 GB, versus 3 GB for non-LTE plans.
Whether you want to stay off contract, and just pay full retail for the phone, versus subsidized pricing and an additional 2 year commitment is up to you. But all I've mentioned above should be true in either case.
Your GF should be fine putting her SIM into your old Inspire.
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Awesome information! Thank you so much for your help. This isn't spelled out very well anywhere on AT&T's website. I avoided the 2 year commitment with a subsidized phone because they said I would lose my unlimited data plan. I didn't want to give that up with a new contract. However, if that information isn't correct... then I need to find a store with a competent salesperson. Anyone know if that's the case?
sarichter said:
Awesome information! Thank you so much for your help. This isn't spelled out very well anywhere on AT&T's website. I avoided the 2 year commitment with a subsidized phone because they said I would lose my unlimited data plan. I didn't want to give that up with a new contract. However, if that information isn't correct... then I need to find a store with a competent salesperson. Anyone know if that's the case?
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You can call them or got into an AT&T store and they should know that you get to keep your unlimited. I bought mine through Best Buy and they can make sure unlimited stays right there, although I still called to verify after.
Anybody at the store tells you otherwise, then they are lying.
Butters619 said:
You can call them or got into an AT&T store and they should know that you get to keep your unlimited. I bought mine through Best Buy and they can make sure unlimited stays right there, although I still called to verify after.
Anybody at the store tells you otherwise, then they are lying.
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That was easy... they did this over the phone. No changes to my account, new phone, unlimited data, LTE... very sweet! Thanks for your help again!
I have unlimited data. Got a new microsim and lte no problem. Only takes a few minutes.
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Maybe, just maybe, if you truly wanted better battery life you wouldn't want LTE (since there is no way to disable it on the AT&T One X). Lol.
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Not having LTE on your account wouldn't make a difference in that case. The phone will still scan for LTE radios, whether its on our account or not.
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Awesome information! Thank you so much for your help.
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Your welcome. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for post you find helpful.
sarichter said:
I avoided the 2 year commitment with a subsidized phone because they said I would lose my unlimited data plan. I didn't want to give that up with a new contract. However, if that information isn't correct... then I need to find a store with a competent salesperson. Anyone know if that's the case?
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Looks like you've already taken care of it. But for others that may have the same question: Yeah, the salesperson needs to be pretty competent. But it seems to be getting a bit more common that people with grandfathered plans want to get LTE added to their accounts, as LTE is being launched in more and more markets, and their are more devices with LTE being offered by AT&T. So its not as bad as when they first started doing it. When the Vivid came out last year (the first LTE phone on AT&T?), I was reading lots of reports of AT&T reps accidentally taking unlimited data off people's plan, not even knowing/understanding what the customer was asking for, trying to tell them its not possible to keep unlimited data, etc.
Its gotten better since those days, but you still have to be careful its done right. Doing it in the store is good, the rep let me look on the screen to confirm the choices before finalizing each one. It did take a while for them to get it done right. The rep had to call his manager over, who had to sign onto an "older" system on his computer in order to do it, since my account was so old. But it got done, and at least they knew what I was talking about.
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Not having LTE on your account wouldn't make a difference in that case. The phone will still scan for LTE radios, whether its on our account or not.
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Your welcome. Be sure to click the "Thanks" button for post you find helpful.
Looks like you've already taken care of it. But for others that may have the same question: Yeah, the salesperson needs to be pretty competent. But it seems to be getting a bit more common that people with grandfathered plans want to get LTE added to their accounts, as LTE is being launched in more and more markets, and their are more devices with LTE being offered by AT&T. So its not as bad as when they first started doing it. When the Vivid came out last year (the first LTE phone on AT&T?), I was reading lots of reports of AT&T reps accidentally taking unlimited data off people's plan, not even knowing/understanding what the customer was asking for, trying to tell them its not possible to keep unlimited data, etc.
Its gotten better since those days, but you still have to be careful its done right. Doing it in the store is good, the rep let me look on the screen to confirm the choices before finalizing each one. It did take a while for them to get it done right. The rep had to call his manager over, who had to sign onto an "older" system on his computer in order to do it, since my account was so old. But it got done, and at least they knew what I was talking about.
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Talking about 'old'... I still had a 'blue' plan from the days before cingular! They had to upgrade my plan then because I was signed up for a legacy data plan that was a weird data+voice plan that wasn't carried over. I don't recall the reason but that was before I ever had a smartphone.
sarichter said:
Talking about 'old'... I still had a 'blue' plan from the days before cingular! They had to upgrade my plan then because I was signed up for a legacy data plan that was a weird data+voice plan that wasn't carried over. I don't recall the reason but that was before I ever had a smartphone.
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Wow, that really is old. Mine is nowhere near close. I've only been on AT&T/Cingular for 11 years or so. And only had data for maybe 5 years.
Might have been some major shift in technology that required the change. My father-in-law was forced to switch cell phone plans way back in the day when they were turning off the analog system and going digital!

Bypassing HotSpot check on verizon, do I have this right?

Hello
So I want to be able to hot-spot without forking even more $$ to verizon. I have HTC M8 now, and it involved getting s-off/rooting, and then modifying settings xml page.
Can I do something similar with Pixel 2?
Plan:
1) Buy Pixel 2 Unlocked
2) connect to wifi and get all the updates
3) root with: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-walleye-t3702417
4) insert my Verizon SIM card and activat
5) Modify setting page? /system/build.prop
What do you guys and gals think?
UDPoster said:
Hello
So I want to be able to hot-spot without forking even more $$ to verizon. I have HTC M8 now, and it involved getting s-off/rooting, and then modifying settings xml page.
Can I do something similar with Pixel 2?
Plan:
1) Buy Pixel 2 Unlocked
2) connect to wifi and get all the updates
3) root with: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-walleye-t3702417
4) insert my Verizon SIM card and activat
5) Modify setting page? /system/build.prop
What do you guys and gals think?
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What plan are you on? I had grandfathered unlimited for years (750 mins/unlimited text) and had to hack my phone to tether without paying extra. Now I'm on the new unlimited which is cheaper then the old one and I get unlimited talk/text/data and 10GB of free tether a month. No hacking involved. I recommend switching if you haven't already.
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joshw0000 said:
What plan are you on? I had grandfathered unlimited for years (750 mins/unlimited text) and had to hack my phone to tether without paying extra. Now I'm on the new unlimited which is cheaper then the old one and I get unlimited talk/text/data and 10GB of free tether a month. No hacking involved. I recommend switching if you haven't already.
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I am using 80 gig a month. Its not cheaper to switch
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I am using 80 gig a month. Its not cheaper to switch
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How is that possible? They're throttling all unlimited accounts. The grandfathered accounts are throttled if you're in the top few percentage of users in a certain area (which you'd have to be) and the new unlimited accounts get 20-30 GB's before they start throttling us.
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How is that possible? They're throttling all unlimited accounts. The grandfathered accounts are throttled if you're in the top few percentage of users in a certain area (which you'd have to be) and the new unlimited accounts get 20-30 GB's before they start throttling us.
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I don't know. Maybe I am not in my area, or they are but with my usage model it is not noticeable. In either case for now it's advantages for me to remain on my plan, and I would like to continue tethering with a new phone.
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I don't know. Maybe I am not in my area, or they are but with my usage model it is not noticeable. In either case for now it's advantages for me to remain on my plan, and I would like to continue tethering with a new phone.
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Just make sure you get a Google version. The Verizon version is locked. You'll want to unlock the bootloader before you spend any time setting up the phone as it'll wipe it. I never had to hack the Pixel since I've been on new unlimited since I got my P1 but if you know what to change in build.prop then your instructions should work as you intend.
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I don't know. Maybe I am not in my area, or they are but with my usage model it is not noticeable. In either case for now it's advantages for me to remain on my plan, and I would like to continue tethering with a new phone.
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Here you go - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74440591
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Just make sure you get a Google version. The Verizon version is locked. You'll want to unlock the bootloader before you spend any time setting up the phone as it'll wipe it. I never had to hack the Pixel since I've been on new unlimited since I got my P1 but if you know what to change in build.prop then your instructions should work as you intend.
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Here you go - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74440591
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Thanks! Search fail on my part.
joshw0000 said:
How is that possible? They're throttling all unlimited accounts. The grandfathered accounts are throttled if you're in the top few percentage of users in a certain area (which you'd have to be) and the new unlimited accounts get 20-30 GB's before they start throttling us.
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wrong. The FCC made it illegal for Verizon to throttle unlimited users. I never get throttled and my pixel 2 arrives today! This month I got 74gb on my Nexus 6
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buschris said:
wrong. The FCC made it illegal for Verizon to throttle unlimited users. I never get throttled and my pixel 2 arrives today! This month I got 74gb on my Nexus 6
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Wrong! The new unlimited plans CAN get throttled after 22gb. The grandfathered unlimited plans CAN get throttled if you're in the top 1% of users in a congested area. And the FCC didn't make it illegal for them to throttle, they made it illegal for them to sim lock their phones. Verizon has issued more than one announcement about throttling but almost always retracted it shortly after due to customer complaints.
I guess if you live in a small town that happens to get great Verizon service and you download a lot of porn it's possible to use 74gb a month without getting throttled. If you've ever been a major sporting event, parade, airport, etc you HAVE been throttled. My phone would sometimes show LTE but take 20+ seconds just to load Google's homepage in congested areas. Now I don't have that issue as I stay around 15-20gb a month so I never get throttled.
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joshw0000 said:
Wrong! The new unlimited plans CAN get throttled after 22gb. The grandfathered unlimited plans CAN get throttled if you're in the top 1% of users in a congested area. And the FCC didn't make it illegal for them to throttle, they made it illegal for them to sim lock their phones. Verizon has issued more than one announcement about throttling but almost always retracted it shortly after due to customer complaints.
I guess if you live in a small town that happens to get great Verizon service and you download a lot of porn it's possible to use 74gb a month without getting throttled. If you've ever been a major sporting event, parade, airport, etc you HAVE been throttled. My phone would sometimes show LTE but take 20+ seconds just to load Google's homepage in congested areas. Now I don't have that issue as I stay around 15-20gb a month so I never get throttled.
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I'm not on the new plan. I am talking about the grandfathered unlimited plans.
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I'm not on the new plan. I am talking about the grandfathered unlimited plans. Not sure what dictionary Verizon uses for the word "unlimited", but when I signed up years ago it was truly unlimited and has always been for me and better stay that way.
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I'm not on the new plan. I am talking about the grandfathered unlimited plans.
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I was on the grandfathered unlimited for 15+ years. If you're in the top 1% of Verizon users in a congested area, you will be throttled. It used to happen to me every time we went to a football game or anywhere else with a lot of people around. Also my day to day speeds were overall slower. I used to get around 20-30 mbps. I just pulled this speed test from work (a big metal factory).
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jLQeLOs1JhbVIVJP2
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