run device from sd card - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey guys, i guess you know about the 64gb script where you change the sd card to the internal memory, now if i get a sandisk class 10, i mean what is the lag difference compared to running it off the memory stick? i mean I play games, like gta for example and on the highest resolution, now? i dont want to change the memory to the sd card and then suffer lag... and plus i run seeder/set cpu ... any advice?

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Replace Internal SD card?

Can I replace my internal SD card with a faster/larger one?
Is it soldered to the logic board? or just plugged inside the housing?
I tested the speed via Activity monitor, and am getting speeds ~9MB/s This is good, but I notice lag when I start playing a movie, or music.
Also Whats the largest SD card i can put into the external SD slot?
Thanks.
32Gb in the external SD slot, and I haven't noticed any lag playing movies or music on either internal or external memory.
I'd stick with a 16GB external card until the speeds on the 32's come up ...
The current flavor of (sandisk) 32GB SDHC cards is class 2.
From what I can tell byt looking at pictures of the PCB's in the phone the internal SD card is integrated on the board ... I do not believe it can be modified or replaced ...
Well thats sux. Does anyone know what the speed rating is on the internal SD? Like I said I was getting ~9MB/s non formally viewing Activity Monitor on my mac while adding files.
I will try to run some tests to see what the actually speed is if noone has an answer.
Here we go. See screenshot of Disk test from XBench 1.3. The SD card could be a Class 4 I think.
wpb2 said:
Can I replace my internal SD card with a faster/larger one?
Is it soldered to the logic board? or just plugged inside the housing?
I tested the speed via Activity monitor, and am getting speeds ~9MB/s This is good, but I notice lag when I start playing a movie, or music.
Also Whats the largest SD card i can put into the external SD slot?
Thanks.
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It also depends what format and video player your using. For example on rockplayer I have a 2.2GB 720p 2001 space odyssey that won't even play but it plays perfect on the samsung video player. However i also transformers 2 1.1GB 720p that plays on rockplayer but its choppy and that also plays perfect on samsungs video player
@wpb2
2MB/s = class 2
4MB/s = class 4
6MB/s = class 6
I'd say its class 6 judging by your uncached read/write speeds of 6.10/7.41 MB/s. I think thats as fast as you're going to get for SD cards.
I have a Kingston 16GB class 2 SD card and with a 8kb buffer I get 16mb/s reads and 13mb/s writes. The internal NAND gives me 14mb/s reads and 0.5mb/s writes. Go figure
wpb2 said:
Well thats sux. Does anyone know what the speed rating is on the internal SD? Like I said I was getting ~9MB/s non formally viewing Activity Monitor on my mac while adding files.
I will try to run some tests to see what the actually speed is if noone has an answer.
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It sounds like you are measuring write speed. This would not affect playing movies. when you see lag playing the movie, are your playing it on the mac or the phone? I have watched some HD rips on my phone, and they play amazing.
wpb2 said:
Can I replace my internal SD card with a faster/larger one?
Is it soldered to the logic board? or just plugged inside the housing?
I tested the speed via Activity monitor, and am getting speeds ~9MB/s This is good, but I notice lag when I start playing a movie, or music.
Also Whats the largest SD card i can put into the external SD slot?
Thanks.
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My question is how does the worlds leading manufacture of Flash memory go with an internal SD card for their flagship top of the line Android phone. What a dumb move.
Battlehymn said:
I'd stick with a 16GB external card until the speeds on the 32's come up ...
The current flavor of (sandisk) 32GB SDHC cards is class 2.
From what I can tell byt looking at pictures of the PCB's in the phone the internal SD card is integrated on the board ... I do not believe it can be modified or replaced ...
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Sorry to reply to an old thread but I have a question.
Could I replace the board in a Verizon Fascinate with one from a Vibrant, Captivate or Epic 4 G to bump it up from 2GB to 16GB or are the GSM/CDMA radios also integrated into this board as well.
A Franken-ate mod if you will...
angermeans said:
My question is how does the worlds leading manufacture of Flash memory go with an internal SD card for their flagship top of the line Android phone. What a dumb move.
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Is this your first ANdroid phone? All of them have internal sd and option for external, 16gb is pretty big for and internal and I use my exteral for viewing media, no problem. The argument is stupid.
SD? We don't need no steenkin' SD!
OK, Samsung just calls their built-in flash memory an "internal SD" as a convention to help end-users think of it as being functionally different from the 2GB of internal system memory. It might even be interfaced similarly to SD specs, but there is not actually a removable MicroSD card inside your phone. Just think of it as a metaphor.
The internal SD card is not an actual SD card. It is a chip of flash memory that is not user replaceable. The performance issue is a software issue.
I have often wondered, as there is a micro sd sized removable panel, sealed with a screw that is behind the battery slot.

[Q] increasing external memory

hi.. i currently have a 2GB sd card, which im assuming is class 2 since it came with the phone. 2gb is less for me so im going to buy atleast a 4gb preferably class 4 (since its known to perform faster). my phone has an internal memory of 320 mb storage and 512 mb RAM.
i was wondering if increasing external storage with a higher class will make my phone faster? also, how about gaming experience since i have games on my sd card
PS. my phone is NOT rooted
thanks
I guess the only noticeable performance boost would be for things you do on the external sd card like reading/writing on it. Also I think apps that you'll move to it might start up faster.
I doubt that it will make the phone faster overall, because when starting an app, once it's read from the SD/ext SD card, it's all up to the CPU and RAM to do the work (also GPU if it's a game), and those are still the same.

[Q] How do you set up sd class10 64gig sd card?

I bought a 64gb class 10 sd card. I would like to get the max performance with my Samsung Infuse 4g. my choice of ROMs is 4.2.2.
where to look for "How do you set up performance 64gb sd card class 10 ext sdxc sdhc flash memory " would this increase performance running cache to card. Where is the Bottle neck in the hardware? I have one program that runs benchmarks.

inferir NAND performance, installing apps on external SD CARD ?

in reviews it turns out that the Toshiba NAND performance of the memory is very inferior, I wonder is it a possible bottleneck ?
is it recommended to install apps on your external SD CARD instead ? I have an old samsung 32 GB class 10 sd card..
No Problem
blackinfinity said:
in reviews it turns out that the Toshiba NAND performance of the memory is very inferior, I wonder is it a possible bottleneck ?
is it recommended to install apps on your external SD CARD instead ? I have an old samsung 32 GB class 10 sd card..
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My unit (32GB/3GB) NAND scored 1650+ in AnTuTu and tested with 85MB/s (some reviews say it has only 40+MB/s), it is good enough and above average.

Micro sd with android marshmallow help!!!!

Hi,i've bought a micro sd for my nvidia shield k1 (micro sd: class 10; 90 mb\s; toshiba exceria U3; 128gb). I format it like a internal memory and i moved some apps on it.Simple apps like aptoide crashed,some doesn't start and games doesn't load or lag. Why?
The micro sd is: https://www.amazon.it/Toshiba-Sched...=8-1&keywords=toshiba+exceria+micro+sd+128+gb
A U3 is usually good.
Go to the play store and look for A1 SD bench. Then test the speed. Maybe your SD card's write speed is too slow.
I can recommend: Sandisk Extreme 128GB Class 10 SDXC u3
Simonex16 said:
Hi,i've bought a micro sd for my nvidia shield k1 (micro sd: class 10; 90 mb\s; toshiba exceria U3; 128gb). I format it like a internal memory and i moved some apps on it.Simple apps like aptoide crashed,some doesn't start and games doesn't load or lag. Why?
The micro sd is: https://www.amazon.it/Toshiba-Sched...=8-1&keywords=toshiba+exceria+micro+sd+128+gb
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Format as external, eject and test in PC with h2testw.
Now my sd card is ok now (i didn't touch anything).Another problem: when i try to do a record screen on the tablet it says me: no space of archiviation available.But i have mounted like a internal memory and i have now 128 gb of space.Why i can't record?
Niii4 said:
A U3 is usually good.
Go to the play store and look for A1 SD bench. Then test the speed. Maybe your SD card's write speed is too slow.
I can recommend: Sandisk Extreme 128GB Class 10 SDXC u3
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Thanks man,the results are 11mb\s write and 40mb\s reading.Now the sd card works apparently good
11MB/s write speed is too slow! I've one of those slow cards too and I had to replace it. The current write speed of the Sandisk is over 45MB/s.
I presume your card is too slow for screen recording. I couldn't download and watch videos simultaneously with the slow card. Also, the download speed was quite slow.
Niii4 said:
11MB/s write speed is too slow! I've one of those slow cards too and I had to replace it. The current write speed of the Sandisk is over 45MB/s.
I presume your card is too slow for screen recording. I couldn't download and watch videos simultaneously with the slow card. Also, the download speed was quite slow.
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I am using the same SDCard currently in mine. Having a few issues with adaptable storage, however runs fine as external.

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