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Couple of interesting specs

AT&T has posted a new spec sheet on the Captivate here.
Couple of things stood out in contrast to information (speculation?) that has been posted on this forum and elsewhere, so wanted to mention them and see if any of the early purchasers can check and confirm.
Wi-Fi (WLAN)
Wi-Fi (WLAN) enabled YES
WLAN support 802.11g
WLAN security methods WEP, PSK, EAP, & WPA
Multimedia capabilities
NOTE: The storage capacity is limited by the remaining flash memory and expandable memory.
Audio/Graphic/Video Multimedia Messaging (MMS) Size Limit 300KB
Audio Player YES
Audio Formats SP Midi, Standard MIDI, WAV, MP3
Graphic Formats GIF87a, GIF89, PNG, WBMP & JPG
Video Player YES
Video Formats MPEG4 Part 2 Simple Profile, H.263 (.avi, .mov, .3gp, .mp4)
Memory
Flash (device) Memory 16 GB flash memory
Expandable Memory Supports MicroSD cards with up to 16GB of memory
I point these out since some people have assumed that the base specs of the SGS were carried over to the Captivate (e.g., 802.11n, FLAC support, max 32GB MicroSD cards supported). Has anyone checked these on their phones yet?

Yea, those specs are missing quite a few things.

dsjr2006 said:
Yea, those specs are missing quite a few things.
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Missing a few things that are actually on the device, or the device is missing quite a few things?

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Captivate-phone-pa_4676.html
Also missing some of the supported media codecs like Xvid & Mkv

This is really upsetting.

This is android is not IOS4.... the N wifi protocol can be unlock with a custom kernel, Xvid can be played using rock player form the market, and about the 16gb SD limit, all manufactures say that but the SD controllers always support the max GB available wich is 32gb, so nothing to be worried about.

IMHO Rockplayer sucks , its only software solution can only playback low bitrate under 1000kbs, player in Galaxy S can playback High profile h264 30fps no problem with real hardware acceleration .
In contrast rockplayer will get you ~5fps, atleast on Nexus one it sucks.
Anyway back on topic , if AT&T crippled Captivate to this extend its really sad for media enthusiast like me. I can only hope they posted basic spec for Android in general. As samsung phones should come with mkv,xvid ect. and NEON hardware acceleration.

rafyvitto said:
This is android is not IOS4.... the N wifi protocol can be unlock with a custom kernel, Xvid can be played using rock player form the market, and about the 16gb SD limit, all manufactures say that but the SD controllers always support the max GB available wich is 32gb, so nothing to be worried about.
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so are you saying we will be able to have a max of 48gigs? 16gigs onboard and then 32gig SD card?

Not even AAC? Thats BS. I was about to buy this phone tomorrow. Now after see ing all this gimping just to make sure its not better than the iphone 4 on paper, I'm not so sure. I might go to sprint for the epic like I was originally thinking.

I'm hoping someone will stuff a 32GB mSDHC into a Captivate and see whether it's fully addressable. Ditto the wi-fi radio for 802.11n capability (I find it odd that none of the dozen or so reviewers have commented on that). Any takers???
It's quite possible even AT&T's spec sheet is incorrect (and it won't be the first time recently they've screwed up...).

k2snowboards88 said:
Not even AAC? Thats BS. I was about to buy this phone tomorrow. Now after see ing all this gimping just to make sure its not better than the iphone 4 on paper, I'm not so sure. I might go to sprint for the epic like I was originally thinking.
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Now here's what AT&T lists under the browser functionality:
File Formats Supported 3.0 (A2DP / AVRCP / DUN / HFP / HSP / OPP / SPP/ MP3 / AAC / AAC+ / eAAC+ / WMA / DivX / MPEG-4 / H.263 / WMV3 / YouTube / GIF87a / GIF89 / PNG / WBMP / JPG)
Seems to me a browser wouldn't be able to support all those formats without the accompanying codecs available via the OS. Again, someone needs to run a set of comprehensive tests on this device -- not the Reader's Digest-style technical evaluations we've seen up until now.

I'm fine with no wireless-n, it eats battery too quickly, but Xvid? CMON NOW!! Anyone can confirm this???

I was able to play an Xvid avi no problem.

Has anyone tried playing a FLAC file yet?

Well I can definitely tell you tomorrow, I did watch h264 on it in the store, as for wireless N I'll know tomorrow.
I remember when they posted the Aria specs those were incorrect as well... Lets not jump to conclusions.

dmuntean said:
I was able to play an Xvid avi no problem.
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Thanks for the update. I was hoping it was just at&t's lazy spec writing. They do it with most of their phones.
do you have any *mkv files you could try?

I just tried a FLAC file as well... Played just fine.

Just watched an mkv 720p episode of the office on rockplayer ARMv7
It worked surprisingly well. Not perfect but with some optimizations it could be flawless. Maybe if there is ever an armv8 version (what the hummingbird is) that would be all it would take
So far the cpu power of this thing has exceeded my expectations
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matthewpapa said:
Just watched an mkv 720p episode of the office on rockplayer ARMv7
It worked surprisingly well. Not perfect but with some optimizations it could be flawless. Maybe if there is ever an armv8 version (what the hummingbird is) that would be all it would take
So far the cpu power of this thing has exceeded my expectations
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Can you try playing mkv with captivate ,with its default player not third party ?

matthewpapa said:
Just watched an mkv 720p episode of the office on rockplayer ARMv7
It worked surprisingly well. Not perfect but with some optimizations it could be flawless. Maybe if there is ever an armv8 version (what the hummingbird is) that would be all it would take
So far the cpu power of this thing has exceeded my expectations
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Did you try an MKV with the default player to see if there really is lack of support on the captivate or if at&t is pulling some bs?

[Q] Full Flac support

Is there a way in the interim before Cyanogen is fully up and running that we can hack it to have flac support? Probably half of my music on my phone is Flac and any attempt to use apps like Poweramp, Songbird, or the like to "shuffle all" results in only shuffling tracks supported by the Android core (which sadly Flac is not yet apart of?!?!?)
I believe that CM7 has flac support built in, but I might be wrong. Just wish Google would add it to the core already!

I would love to be able to listen to my Triple.Fi 10's on this device, but am wary as past phones headphone outs have been horrible. How's the Tbolt? Is there a defacto standard media player app that caters to flac and doesn't cost $5.99?
Thanks!

CM 7 does play FLAC just fine for me. I use MortPlayer, which is free and has a lot of features (and works for flac just in case you were curious). I cant remember if it worked for FLAC on sense or not, but it might have. The developer for it has been working on it since the windows mobile days and ported it over to android.
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.stohelit.folderplayer&hl=en
http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=page&entry=mpa_overview&action=view&menu=36
Probably the best reason to have cm7 for audio is the fact you can use the volume keys to switch tracks and it's not dependent on the player to do so either. Having that to me is a must if you wish to use it for running or some other exercise that keeps you from seeing the screen.

Yeah, I tried it last night and found the stock music app plays flac just fine. Unfortunately, the sound quality from the Jack leaves something to be desired. Oh well, that's what the Zune HD's for. ;-)

Jodiuh said:
Yeah, I tried it last night and found the stock music app plays flac just fine. Unfortunately, the sound quality from the Jack leaves something to be desired. Oh well, that's what the Zune HD's for. ;-)
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Does the ZuneHD support FLAC? I have the Zune 120 and the lack of FLAC support makes me cry
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solarpolitiks said:
Does the ZuneHD support FLAC? I have the Zune 120 and the lack of FLAC support makes me cry
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If you really want FLAC, I would find a media player that supports rockbox http://www.rockbox.org/
I have a nano 1g and it's worked great on it for the past 6 years.

yareally said:
If you really want FLAC, I would find a media player that supports rockbox http://www.rockbox.org/
I have a nano 1g and it's worked great on it for the past 6 years.
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My old Sansa players were all rockboxed but they all supported FLAC anyway
The Zune was just given to me from a friend. I appreciate it (obviously) but I miss the FLAC support.
Thinking of grabbing a Clip+ and throwing in my 32GB MicroSD in it and reaching a decent size of 40GB in an mp3 player about the size of 1.5 quarters

Play flac files?

Is it possible to play flac files with stock sense but maybe using another music player?

Chad_Petree said:
Is it possible to play flac files with stock sense but maybe using another music player?
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I think the paid version of PowerAmp player does it, if I recall correctly.
I'd be interested, as well, just not interested enough to pay what I though was a little too much for that PowerAmp player, when I may not end up using it all that much.
Nearly all the music I have is in .FLAC format, but I have a separate player that has FLAC support built-in.
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Poweramp does indeed play flac.

when is android gonna implement native support for flac , i dont wanna have to buy poweramp and i have quite a bit of flac files , maybe i can flash some files? i did it when i had a motorola milestone

Chad_Petree said:
when is android gonna implement native support for flac , i dont wanna have to buy poweramp and i have quite a bit of flac files , maybe i can flash some files? i did it when i had a motorola milestone
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I sure hope they implement it someday. I think the some of the more recent Blackberry models (Torch) have native FLAC support.
Like I mentioned, I've got nearly 3 gigs of live music, much of which is in FLAC, and maintaining lossless format is important.
Having to temporarily convert downward to mp3 or some other lossy format just for listening is a PITA, and defeats the purpose of maintaining lossless format in the first place.
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You could always stream them using audiogalaxy or another server if you don't mind consuming some serious data! Poweramp is worth the $5.....you will get much more enjoyment from it than the next gallon of gas you buy.

newter55 said:
You could always stream them using audiogalaxy or another server if you don't mind consuming some serious data! Poweramp is worth the $5.....you will get much more enjoyment from it than the next gallon of gas you buy.
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It's definitely a top rated app in terms of market reviews, and I may buy it someday, if I find myself using my phone to play music, which at this point I haven't, so it's not that big of deal for me personally, though the OP may want to bite the bullet...
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Scott_S said:
I sure hope they implement it someday. I think the some of the more recent Blackberry models (Torch) have native FLAC support.
Like I mentioned, I've got nearly 3 gigs of live music, much of which is in FLAC, and maintaining lossless format is important.
Having to temporarily convert downward to mp3 or some other lossy format just for listening is a PITA, and defeats the purpose of maintaining lossless format in the first place.
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im gonna buy power amp , i know i wont enjoy the full quality of flac with earbuds, i just dont wanna have to reconvert my flac files

Chad_Petree said:
im gonna buy power amp , i know i wont enjoy the full quality of flac with earbuds, i just dont wanna have to reconvert my flac files
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I hear ya. Converting sux.
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I really recommend PowerAmp.. I am currently running the Trial version on my Samsung SGS2 combined with my Koss Porta Pro (Iphone edition) I can not see any cons with this music player for Android at all. It handles mp3, FLAC and all other popular music codecs. I was surprised when i noticed that the iphone controller on my headphones works flawlessly and there was even settings within the player for adjusting this etc.. I'm pretty sold on this player.. It just works!

will it be ever possible to play hd movies?

it is a HUGE inconvenience and i was wondering if it will be ever possible to play and maybe even record hd movies on the NS? if not, i am really considering to go back to the captivate

Moboplayer? I use that for all my movies in random formats. Haven't tried HD movies yet however. Nexus S screen resolution isn't HD anyways.
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You wont be able to record at 720p it lacks the hardware
As for movies ever since 2.3.3 nexus s has been able to play 720p (x264) movies but still lack proper audio codecs so no sound hopefully more audio codecs get introduced in 2.4 update when ever that comes out but dont hold your breath
If you check in dev section there is a ROM in that includes new hardware codecs but the video player that is required is not 100%
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Moboplayer? I use that for all my movies in random formats. Haven't tried HD movies yet however. Nexus S screen resolution isn't HD anyways.
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exactly you haven't played high quality HD movies on your phone experience what we are talking about
also im pretty sure he is talking about hardware support Mobo or any other player does software only for the codecs that are not supported by the OS
And ask anyone who had or has a galaxy S image quality is outstanding
Also doesn't matter if the phone is not 720p you dont having to spend time properly converting

This is a big let down for me, its true a few media players can play via software decoding but the nexus s out the box has limited media support.
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You can try the hardware multi-codec thread in the dev section. You need to flash the customized ROM though, and install ho player from Market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052318

I just recommend that you go back to your Captivate. I've had the Vibrant and sometimes I miss that my Nexus S doesn't have the hardware support to play other media files without converting, but I don't use it for media much so it wasn't a priority in the phone for me. Reading from your first post, it sounds like you use the phone a lot for watching media and somewhat use HD video recording. So that's why I recommend that you stay with the Captivate and perhaps wait for Galaxy S II if you're looking for an upgrade. Nothing can really beat the media capabilities that the Galaxy S offers.

What codec are you trying to play? I have HD videos on my Mac downloaded directly from YouTube. With no transcoding, they work fine on my Nexus S in the Gallery app using stock firmware.
H.264 has many different encoding profiles, and mobile devices (even the iPhone and iPad, along with scores of Android and Nokia devices) have limits on both the profile and the bit-rate that they can handle.
With regards to recording, the Nexus S does not do HD recording, and that's fine with me. If I want to record some video (which I do like 4-5 times a year), I'll whip out my Flip. You know why? Because recording video drains a lot of battery, and I need my Nexus S to last all day.

[Q] Best app for streaming 1080p .mkv from htpc?

I just ordered the G2x - despite tomorrow being Thanksgiving I am being told it should arrive tomorrow with overnight shipping. Woo!
I'm wondering if anyone uses this phone to stream .mkv video to an hdmi receiver/tv? What app would you recommend for doing this and how does the G2x handle streaming 1080p?
This phone is free with a new 2 year contract or additional line until the 25th. I'm adding a kid's account and decided I deserve an early upgrade. =]

I use this. I haven't tried 1080p .mkv, but 720p .mkv and 1080p .mp4 work great on my G2x.

Thanks! The first comment on the page mentions it doesn't like mkv - I tried it probably 6 months ago and had the same problem. Maybe I'll get better results with 2 1ghz cores.
I'll give it another go when I get the phone.

Bsplayer has wifi/network access built in, and does great on 720p ac3 which other players have had trouble with.
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Thanks, checking it out.
On another note, any replacement HD camera for AOSP 2.3.x? The android camera sucks. =(

I use a combination of apps myself....
To start the actual stream, I use "UPnPlay" which hooks into the DLNA service from Windows Media Player, so you have to set that up on the computer end... UPnPlay doesn't actually display the video however. For that, it loads an external video player of your choice. I use "MX Video Player" because it has a Tegra hardware plugin that does hardware video accelleration. Works perfectly for me.