I'm curious of whether it's okay to run no-frills CPU with stock JB, as it doesn't seem to have a CPU governor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911917
Is it recommended or needed?
Thanks!
On the stock kernel, it won't do you a ton of good... And you will have to be rooted to use it.
thanks, I'm rooted.
The reason it won't do me a good must have been that the stock already has a governor or something ???
palmwangja said:
thanks, I'm rooted.
The reason it won't do me a good must have been that the stock already has a governor or something ???
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Stock kernel doesn't allow for under/overclocking... I guess there are a couple of governors on the stock kernel, so you could change those around?
Custom kernels give you options like under/overclocking, different governors, different schedulers... etc.
So there's no reason you can't put NoFrills or any other CPU control app on a stock kernel, you just won't get a whole lot of choices with the stock kernel
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So I recently rooted my Galaxy Nexus and other than using WidgetLocker I haven't done anything to my phone to take advantage of my root and SU privileges.
This is my first phone that I have done this too so this is all a major learning curve which brings me to my question(s):
(1) Can the phones memory be over locked?
[If yes....] What are the factory Memory Times and what is a safe level to overclock them to - and How?
(2) What is the factory setting for the processor and what is a safe and efficient overclocked setting?
Is the Highest (but again safe and efficient) level a noticeable change?
(3) Overclocking the GPU can reach a maximum setting of 512Mhz (correct?)
What is the default setting for the GPU and is overclocking the GPU to the highest (but "safest" & efficient) level noticeable and worth the trouble?
(4) How do I overclock my phone?
I know that (probably) a kernel replacement is going to be the answer to this question but I was wondering if maybe there is a script I could run in recovery console or terminal, whatever...instead of replacing the entire kernel.
If the kernel is the only way, does this effect future ICS system updates?
What is the best (most stable, most features, best for overclocking) kernel for ICS/GalaxyNexus? - I dont know poop about kernels.
(4a) with the kernel loaded, what apps do I need to snatch from the market to actually overclock my Galaxy Nexus? Try to recommend free ones please =P
(5) Since I am replacing the Kernel, should I dive in 100% and flash a ROM too?
Yes?: what is the best (very very stable, fast, efficient, tweakable) ROM out there for GNexus?
do roms do anything to assist in the overclocking process?
The only reason I would consider a ROM too is because I want Wifi/USB Tethering, Facebook contact syncing, and a few other things.. but only if there are overclocking tools too!
Does flashing a ROM eliminate myself from ICS updates(pretty sure the answer is yes)??
(6) I am currently on a stock kernel and "rom" (if u couldn't tell...) but I am rooted and using Launcher Pro (free version) and I am happy with it but out of the other launchers which is the best (fastest, easy to use, customisable)?
If I flash a custom ROM will a custom launcher be necessary or do they cone with tweaked launchers?
I had other questions but I can't think of it right now, I'll update the OP and thread if I think of anymore. Thank you so much community members for taking time to answer these questions!!!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
ksaul said:
(1) Can the phones memory be over locked?
[If yes....] What are the factory Memory Times and what is a safe level to overclock them to - and How?
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No, it can't.
(2) What is the factory setting for the processor and what is a safe and efficient overclocked setting?
Is the Highest (but again safe and efficient) level a noticeable change?
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1200 MHz is stock, 1350-1400 MHz is the highest you can get at the moment, as stability is an issue.
(3) Overclocking the GPU can reach a maximum setting of 512Mhz (correct?)
What is the default setting for the GPU and is overclocking the GPU to the highest (but "safest" & efficient) level noticeable and worth the trouble?
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307MHz is stock (underclocked), 387MHz I believe is it's nominal speed, and is billed as 'overclocked' here on XDA.
(4) How do I overclock my phone?
I know that (probably) a kernel replacement is going to be the answer to this question but I was wondering if maybe there is a script I could run in recovery console or terminal, whatever...instead of replacing the entire kernel.
If the kernel is the only way, does this effect future ICS system updates?
What is the best (most stable, most features, best for overclocking) kernel for ICS/GalaxyNexus? - I dont know poop about kernels.
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You need to flash a kernel using CWM Recovery. The kernel will be rewritten every time you flash a new ROM with that ROMs kernel, if you like a specific kernel you can reflash after installing a ROM, I use Franco Kernel which is by far the most popular. Once you flash a custom ROM you won't bother with ICS system updates, custom are bleeding edge with custom tweaks and months and months earlier than OTA releases.
(4a) with the kernel loaded, what apps do I need to snatch from the market to actually overclock my Galaxy Nexus? Try to recommend free ones please =P
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SetCPU is by far the best, don't be a cheapskate shell out the $2 for it. AOKP ROM has one built in, but I still use SetCPU.
(5) Since I am replacing the Kernel, should I dive in 100% and flash a ROM too?
Yes?: what is the best (very very stable, fast, efficient, tweakable) ROM out there for GNexus?
do roms do anything to assist in the overclocking process?
The only reason I would consider a ROM too is because I want Wifi/USB Tethering, Facebook contact syncing, and a few other things.. but only if there are overclocking tools too!
Does flashing a ROM eliminate myself from ICS updates(pretty sure the answer is yes)??
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Flashing a custom ROM will stop you being able to recieve OTA's, yes. But like I said earlier, they are ****. Custom ROMs are far, far better, so just keep up to date with your ROMs releases and you will always have a ROM with more features that stock OTAs. Most ROMS come with overclocked kernels, most have optimized kernels also, AOKP even has a built in overclocking program in the settings menu, which might appeal to you.
(6) I am currently on a stock kernel and "rom" (if u couldn't tell...) but I am rooted and using Launcher Pro (free version) and I am happy with it but out of the other launchers which is the best (fastest, easy to use, customisable)?
If I flash a custom ROM will a custom launcher be necessary or do they cone with tweaked launchers?
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I don't know about other ROMs but AOKP comes with a custom launcher called Nova Launcher, it's essentially the stock launcher with tweaks.
wow thank you so much for your reply... i stumbled upon AOKP on droidforums before reading your reply and am actually about to flash it now - thank you for this very detailed response!!
No problem my man, there is actually a good few stable 1500MHz kernels out now and the GPU can be overclocked to 512MHz if you really want to kill your battery.
I see people writing about setting their Xoom CPU to 1504MHz and higher, but mine won't allow anything above 1000. Am I missing some setting in SetCPU?
-Al
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I see people writing about setting their Xoom CPU to 1504MHz and higher, but mine won't allow anything above 1000. Am I missing some setting in SetCPU?
-Al
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Are you running a custom ROM or kernel that supports overclocking? If you're not then 1000 is your max cpu speed. If you are, then what ROM/kernel are you running?
I'm running the rooted stock ICS ROM. I thought maybe because it was a ROM it would allow overclocking. I suppose I'd have to run Tiamat or something like that to get overclocking. Not sure I'm up for the reinstall.
Thanks
-Al
yes you have to be running a custom kernel which you will not find with the stock rom. Other wise just use the profiles with setcpu those help with battery life even on the stock rom.
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yes you have to be running a custom kernel which you will not find with the stock rom. Other wise just use the profiles with setcpu those help with battery life even on the stock rom.
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I think you can just flash the latest Eos kernel and leave your rom stock. If you have one of the custom recoveries, it's easy.
Can i use No frills CPU or any other cpu controller with stock rom and kernel?
Yes I believe you can as long as your rooted.
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Yes, you can. However you won't be able to overclock anything since the stock kernel doesn't support that. You can only change governors and I/O scedulers. If you want to stay on the stock kernel but have the ability to overclock/undervolt, you can try SebastianFM's kernels.
I also tried to overclock my CPU with stock kernel. Is does not work and changing the governors just makes the phone a bit slower for me cause the kernel doesn't really support is. Try senseomaniac rom, has the bricked kernel. I am using now and works great.
Welsyntoffie said:
I also tried to overclock my CPU with stock kernel. Is does not work and changing the governors just makes the phone a bit slower for me cause the kernel doesn't really support is. Try senseomaniac rom, has the bricked kernel. I am using now and works great.
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You don't have to change ROM to use another kernel . If changing the governors makes your phone slower, you probably tried 'conservative' or 'powersave'.
Yeah I know for only changing kernel, but is much easier to flask complete rom then only kernel, kernels differ and are many for different phone roms made for spicific phone then kernel will work. I had screen off governor set to 1cpu and 192 fq, made the unlock slow
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Yes, you can. However you won't be able to overclock anything since the stock kernel doesn't support that. You can only change governors and I/O scedulers. If you want to stay on the stock kernel but have the ability to overclock/undervolt, you can try SebastianFM's kernels.
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No i was unable to use No frills, i set min to 192Mhz, in the application it says 192Mhz but actually it stays at 384Mhz.
I think he meant stock rom. You need a custom kernel to change the frequencies and voltage, that includes lowering the lowest possible frequency (384 to 192).
Yes, i apologise, min was 384. Didnt pay much attention to the numbers
Hello frends i am new to htc explore(not new to android).i am using stock indian rom with default kernel.i already rooted my rom.i want a kernel which work in stock rom and have NO bug and support ext partition and overclockable to more than 600mhz.thanks guys.
Welcome, there is no such kernel, mostly they are only 3 kernels for explorer, non of them works fine on stock rom, If you want stock, closest you can do is Ateeq's rom, then to clock it you have to flash yannou's kernel, which has OC but most of the guys sayed that it is fake OC, I think not but....... I'm a noob. So far what I figure out is cranium kernel, whit that you can clock it to 1307 which is fun for a while, but battery is just diyng with full clock. All of them supports ext partition.
Thanks.so cranium kernel work with stock Tom.
I have my doubts, anyway do a backup and try, I'm sure about yannou's and ateeq's they don't work with stock, when I tryed cranium, I've already forgot what stock was, so don't know but nowhere says that it wont, so it's up to you. My doubts are about stock, ti's odexed and that's why I'm not sure will it work corectly.
No kernels work with stock....only on custom roms..
my htc
Ok guys i want to install custom rom.plz suggest me a custom rom(ics based)?aokp or cm9?and what is the safe max frequency that we can overclock our phone?thanks
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Ok guys i want to install custom rom.plz suggest me a custom rom(ics based)?aokp or cm9?and what is the safe max frequency that we can overclock our phone?thanks
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I personally recommend to try CM9, I've installed it yesterday and I can say there wasn't bugs(oh yeah, there was something, when I used phone in USB storage mode(plugged in to computer) Google Play wasn't working properly, it was force closing on the app startup. But this is nothing).
Ok thanks.can you tell me what is the max frequency which our phone can hold without any kernel panic.??
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Ok thanks.can you tell me what is the max frequency which our phone can hold without any kernel panic.??
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Sorry, exactly now, I'm using default CM9 kernel, so I can't say that.
So default cm9 kernel is not overclockable?i assume that all custom rom have overclockable kernel?
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So default cm9 kernel is not overclockable?i assume that all custom rom have overclockable kernel?
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I thought it too, but setCPU shows max clock 600Mhz.
zgintasz said:
I thought it too, but setCPU shows max clock 600Mhz.
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Ok then its not overclockable.i will check.thanks
Oc is not a gud idea..du to hvy battery drain..cm9 with oc is available..but not a stable one...
my htc
Running MOAR v2 and stock NE5 kernel. Downloaded Trickster MOD and trying to mess with the min/max of CPU frequency to save battery when I don't plan on being on my phone a lot.... but the min/max never seem to save, is it the app or something I may be doing wrong? Thanks in advance!
BTW- What I am trying to do is: scheduler= CFQ; governor= Conservative; Min= 422; Max= 1497
Stock kernel's typically can't have clocks adjusted, you'll have to go with a custom kernel.
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Stock kernel's typically can't have clocks adjusted, you'll have to go with a custom kernel.
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Funny bc I'm doing it as we speak with Trickster MOD app!