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I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R
Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.
Many of us understand your experience. Most of us acknowledge that the first software was not what it should have been.
I have a modded machine which is super. I have an OTA 3389 tablet which is more than acceptable.
From your comments, it sounds to me like your plan to return is the best course of action.
The G-Tablet can be a super machine, but not without some interest in working with and improving it on your part.
Sorry this is not better news. Maybe someone else will respond with a different idea.
Rev
bijan588 said:
Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.
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Yep, just check the dev forum for instructions on installing new custom firmware. I'd also recommend making sure that you install clockwork mod 0.8 to ease backup/restores.
...OTOH from what I've heard is that the new stock fw 3389 is quite a bit better than what it ships with. And from there you can add a few minor updates, rooting, maybe the performance pack, sideload some apps and possibly the market "fix" which might be good enough for you, but even then I'd really have to recommend installing clockwork mod simply for the ease of making an image of a nicely working modified system and then being able to restore that if something messes it up...
Tablet is really nice, stable, and fast once properly setup and it's not really too hard to do any of the above IF you FOLLOW the instructions and READ them ENTIRELY and the caveats BEFOREHAND.
Really it's almost plug and play...
racedog said:
I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
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Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
I guess that soon you'll find the lack of Copy/Paste. Apple was run out of town for this and Windows Phone 7 too. At least with the G Tablet the lack of Copy/Paste seems to be limited to the stock apps.
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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Install the latest update and do a factory restore inside the security section of settings.
Then if you want install the tnt enhancement pack from the device section. Don't worry about returning to stock because they don't even open the box when you return or exchange. If they did, they would have no idea what they would be looking at.
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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You should be able to see the microsd on the Gtab using, for example, ES File explorer. It'll be at /sdcard2.
As for seeing /sdcard2 from your pc, I thought I saw a post saying that if you have winamp installed on the gtab, it has an option for mounting sdcard2, and when that's enabled you can see /sdcard2. Haven't tried that myself.
Jim
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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If you join #tegratab on freenode, I or someone else would help you. Here is a web client: http://webchat.freenode.net/
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P.S. Here's the thread about winamp and sdcard2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880237&highlight=winamp
Ahead of the game.
Hi racedog, actually I think you are ahead of the game. You seem to have made a lot of progress if you bought this Christmas eve.
How did you get it to run in the parking lot of the mall on Christmas eve? Even with a power inverter for power, hoe did you get a WiFi connection?
So far my G Tablet is stock and I am over-all happy with it. However, after Viewsonics post that they won't be providing any support for swapping the LCD screen, I feel they are missing the point. Their post said they would be anouncing some new products soon (my guess is at CES right after the first of the year).
I might end up taking my G Tablet back to Sears and waiting for the newer, more powerful and maybe more promising second generation tablets I am sure are to come at CES.
This tablet has been fun and I may keep it, but, I would really like to know the price points on the new models at CES.
Sucks out of the box.
Erase it and start over.
Load Clockwork Recovery Mod first! Put the update.zip on the sdcard, don't worry about the external SD method.
Once you have that boot mod, it's next to impossible to screw it up.
Flash that then get TNT lite 3.1.0 plus the supplement
Make sure you format the SDCARD using the advanced menu 2048 and 0 swap r it will crash on ya.
Do the full market fix. Download Dolphin HD and you will have a very usable tablet.
racedog said:
I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R
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I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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Offer is still open on IRC
racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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I found that the stock rom cannot use ad-hoc networks. I had to use the hack for the 3G Hotspot app on the DX to get it working on the Gtab. Once I upgraded to TnT lite than I was able to use Wireless Tether and stopped getting all the drops and reconnects too.
I really think that you will be happy with this as soon as you mod it with what's here in this community. I have only been here for less than a week and have found answers to all my questions. Good luck.
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I appreciate the offer but because of the holidays I won't be able to take you up on it until probably Tuesday, maybe tomorrow Monday if I get REALLY lucky. I going to be trying to do as much as I can myself until them.
I wondered if the problem might be that the stock rom did not recognize ad hoc networks because I looked for the option to select it and it was not there. Thanks for that info.
R
Forgot, the winamp solution didn't work. I selected the mount option in winamp but it did nothing. I will get back to this issue once I get the greater issue of the rom and wifi connect to my phone fixed. Those are the real biggies that need fixing first.
R
Thanks to rothnic this new G has CWM installed and tnt like running on it along with Market and other apps that I've downloaded from it. What a huge difference this makes, my constant FC's seem to have stopped happening and I am now very happy with this unit. What a world of difference.
The screen is still a major issue but I can live with it (for now, will keep watching the screen swapping thread) but the device is fast, functional and completely usable whereas 24 hours ago I was set to return it to Sears but my wife talked me out of that and to try fixing it.
Again, special thanks to rothnic for all the "above and beyond" help and patience and also to all of the Gtab community here for the help and suggestions.
R
Quick Question:
The Xoom with the WiFi/3G......can i use that for WiFi only and NOT have it turned on with a carrier????
I know they have a Xoom WiFi only...but i might be getting this Xoom tomorrow from a guy..his is 3G/WiFi...so i wanted to be 100% sure before i get it. I only want it for WiFi.
Also..i may be behind in asking this..but is the microSD active and working now in the Xoom? Heard it wasnt before.
AND..for example...the G tablet has 2Gb of internal space..PLUS a internal 16GB SD card...does the Xoom have 2 like that also?
Edit: If it has Android 3.0 on it when i get it...if i hook it to WiFi.....will it update automatically to the latest 3.2.1?
Yes you can have a Xoom 3G and only use WiFi. I did the same thing for months. The Xoom has 32GB internal (internal SD that is) but you can add another SD card in the slot and get up to 64GB. Yes the Xoom will update over the air on WiFi and allow you to use the SD card. If you plan to root the device there are obviously plenty of other features you can activate on this device. Use the forum search to clear up any other concern you may have. Good luck!
Isun said:
Yes you can have a Xoom 3G and only use WiFi. I did the same thing for months. The Xoom has 32GB internal (internal SD that is) but you can add another SD card in the slot and get up to 64GB. Yes the Xoom will update over the air on WiFi and allow you to use the SD card. If you plan to root the device there are obviously plenty of other features you can activate on this device. Use the forum search to clear up any other concern you may have. Good luck!
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You answered it all dude. Thanks alot. Even tho a friend just got back to me by email at 5am lol. Told me the latest update activated the SD slot right???
I thought it may have 2 like the GTab. But 32 is more then good. Plus the ability to add more from the SD Slot.
I doubt ill ROOT. Some people are never satisfied lol. I can understand if the Xoom shipped like the GTab did..which sucked. It would NEED to be ROOTED then. But i doubt it runs so slow and everything is SOOO terrible that it NEEDS ROOT. My GTab is ROOTED..should be good enough for me. Thanks again.
Edit: Just to be asking...how much is the plan per month for this on 3G? And what can you do from it...TEXT?
When I finally started using the Verizon plan it was only to make sure I was in their system to get the 4G upgrade but I then learned that you could get the upgrade even without having their service. I chose the lowest plan available for the Xoom which is 2GB a month at $30. It's just a data plan to access the web and such. I use it WiFi mostly and sometimes tether to my Sprint phone. In cases when I don't have time to tether, the 3G/4G capabilities of the Xoom come in handy and Verizon 4G LTE is worlds faster than anything else. Yes there is a way to use SMS on the Xoom but if you have Google Voice you don't really need that because you can respond to text right through the Google Voice app which uses the normal data plan or over WiFi.
The best part of rooting for me so far has been the ability to back up all apps and the app data with Titanium back up. I remember having the game Asphalt 6 and finishing the whole thing then did a factory reset for some other reason I cant remember and lost the whole thing. I got the game back but had to start from scratch. Titanium would have prevented that disappointment. Also you can overclock which I have had great results with. You can change the screen density for the appearance of higher resolution and much more. If you don't need it then don't do it but I can't say anything bad about rooting.
I agree with you. For the GTab..it HAD to be ROOTED. Came with the worst stock software on it. Not even the real Market and such. The backup thing with Titanium IS nice. I doubt i will NEED a plan. Thanks for that info.
The overclock thing is maybe the only thing i would want in terms of it being ROOTED. I think its a nice Tablet left like it is. Not that im saying ROOT cant make it better. Just that some Tablets HAS TO be ROOTED because it sucks so much. I doubt with all the reviews im seen the Xoom is like that. Wish you could overclock without having to ROOT. Now THAT would be kool would it?
DJR0D said:
I agree with you. For the GTab..it HAD to be ROOTED. Came with the worst stock software on it. Not even the real Market and such. The backup thing with Titanium IS nice. I doubt i will NEED a plan. Thanks for that info.
The overclock thing is maybe the only thing i would want in terms of it being ROOTED. I think its a nice Tablet left like it is. Not that im saying ROOT cant make it better. Just that some Tablets HAS TO be ROOTED because it sucks so much. I doubt with all the reviews im seen the Xoom is like that. Wish you could overclock without having to ROOT. Now THAT would be kool would it?
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The Xoom will likely get the Ice Cream Sandwich update pretty soon. Who knows what functionality that could bring. If you're getting a good deal, you can't go wrong.
okantomi said:
The Xoom will likely get the Ice Cream Sandwich update pretty soon. Who knows what functionality that could bring. If you're getting a good deal, you can't go wrong.
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WOW. I really hope my deal comes thru. I know i will love my Xoom. I dont think it will NEED to be ROOTED for me. Even tho i just read that if you open too many apps at once...it lags really bad. Hmm. You guys experience that???
Still...i hope my deal comes thru.
DJR0D said:
WOW. I really hope my deal comes thru. I know i will love my Xoom. I dont think it will NEED to be ROOTED for me. Even tho i just read that if you open too many apps at once...it lags really bad. Hmm. You guys experience that???
Still...i hope my deal comes thru.
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It depends on what you consider too many but there are apps like Advanced Task killer that manage those types of things pretty well. I never really had issues with lag.
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It depends on what you consider too many but there are apps like Advanced Task killer that manage those types of things pretty well. I never really had issues with lag.
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Yea..it was a review from some company i just read. I doubt it will lag like i think it will. My GTab never really lags at all. I just want to get this soon. I was planning on saving up to maybe get it in Feb...or unless money comes up before that. But someone wants to trade me a very nice Xoom for some gadgets i have. I pray this falls thru.
Edit: I may be wrong but..theres something i notice about the pics of the Xoom. Theres no Home...back..Menu button on the outside of the Tablet like most Tablets? All is onscreen? If so...ain't that kinda bad???? Theres been many times on my GTab i needed to click the back button from the Tabelt instead of the on screen back button. Unless i need to see a closer pic of the Xoom..i hope im wrong.
The Xoom has volume buttons on the side and a power button on the back. Everything else is on screen and that's not bad from what I see.
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The Xoom has volume buttons on the side and a power button on the back. Everything else is on screen and that's not bad from what I see.
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Yea....but wow..i doubt i ever saw a Tablet without the Home or Back buttons outside of the screen. I havent heard anything bad about that either. But it makes me think it'll be needed for something.
Like example...on my GTab one time..i did something...dont know what i did...but my onscreen Home and Back buttons were gone. Think i made it into a Full Screen. But i needed to click the Back button that was on the Tablet...then Home button and fiddle with it..an then i got it to come back. Its like on phones..when ur touch screen breaks..you use the scroll ball.
Hey guys and gals, Please advise.
I've been a Sprint customer for 2 years my contract is up. Had an HTC hero which was an amazing phone considering it's age.
I bought 2 VM phones; the optimus V for the wife, and the Motorola Triumph for me. Owneed them both for 12 hours and I'm a bit concerned.
I've rooted them both and removed some bloat. I looked online and see nothing but praise for the optimus V and the MT looks like a lemon based on reviews! I noticed some lag on the touchscreen (I tried to ignore it but the killer is the GPS, the optimus found location in 5 seconds, and the MT was still searching after 5 minutes.
Should I return this thing? Is it a software problem or hardware? Will a custom ROM help?
Please tell me if i should exchange it for the optimus.
Had the same feeling back in August when I purchased the phone. Do yourself a favor and install CM7. You will notice an insane difference; it’s more like owning an entirely different phone. That thing they call an operating system that’s installed out of the box is an insult to both the user and the phones hardware which is actually very good. It took me a few weeks to get the guts to install the Rom but it came to either that or throw the thing in the Delaware. Now a days you could not rip the device from my cold dead hands. I use the TG reloaded build and if you’re not familiar with Roms CM7 is for the most part the closest thing you can get to striate up Google's Gingerbread with a few tweaks and no Virgin Bloatware. Anyhow with the correct software the Triumph is a beast and runs circles around some of my friends higher end phones using their stock Roms. Also, the processor used on the Triumph is used in other devices as a 1.4g processors, including a few tablets so don’t be afraid to crank it up a notch or two. Also the TG Reloaded edition uses a 64 MHz minimum frequency when idle compared to the 246 MHz minimum used in the stock Rom, literally doubles the battery life.
Yes, give the CM7 TG-Reloaded ROM a try. The Motorola Triumph is based on Huawei Ideos X6 reference design, which is sold as different variants world-wide. The hardware is very capable, but either the Motorola people or those responsible for getting it to work on VM were very sloppy, so all the bugs in stock ROM. Most have been addressed in CM7, but still some remain.
As for the better battery life, the 61 mhz low freq helps only a little, other factors include less junk running in the background, battery-optimized interactive governor, and wakelock bugs in the stock kernel that prevent phone from entering deep sleep mode (common, but hard to track problem on a lot of Android phones).
I love my MT running miui [email protected] there's a agps fix somewhere on this site. I personal don't have any issues with this phone
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Thanks for the replies.
I agree that CM7 makes this phone waaaayyy smoother than stock. I still get an occasional lag on the touchscreen and the 4 "buttons" on the bottom are sometimes unresponsive; but this thing is awesome. The only reason the Optimus V is more popular is because it's cheaper. The MT is sexy :^)
The thing I miss from my HTC Hero was the ease of wireless tethering. I didn't really use it much, but it was nice to know I could run any piece of hardware without any mods.
Does the CM7 TG reloaded ROM have an OC kernel built in or do I need to flash one?
Bruce777 said:
Thanks for the replies.
I agree that CM7 makes this phone waaaayyy smoother than stock. I still get an occasional lag on the touchscreen and the 4 "buttons" on the bottom are sometimes unresponsive; but this thing is awesome. The only reason the Optimus V is more popular is because it's cheaper. The MT is sexy :^)
The thing I miss from my HTC Hero was the ease of wireless tethering. I didn't really use it much, but it was nice to know I could run any piece of hardware without any mods.
Does the CM7 TG reloaded ROM have an OC kernel built in or do I need to flash one?
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I may be close to fixing the touchscreen issue, it bugs me too. CM7 allows built-in wireless tethering, and you can add it to be a quick toggle in the notification bar, along with other options. OC kernel is built-in, check out the first post on the ROM thread to read up about all the features.
Whyzor said:
I may be close to fixing the touchscreen issue, it bugs me too. CM7 allows built-in wireless tethering, and you can add it to be a quick toggle in the notification bar, along with other options. OC kernel is built-in, check out the first post on the ROM thread to read up about all the features.
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Needless to say I NO longer have buyers remorse!
Yes, I saw the wireless tethering options...I tried multiple time to initialize it, but my laptop would not connect. Any threads you could send me to? (yes I did look in the ROM thread :^)
thanks
Bruce777 said:
Needless to say I NO longer have buyers remorse!
Yes, I saw the wireless tethering options...I tried multiple time to initialize it, but my laptop would not connect. Any threads you could send me to? (yes I did look in the ROM thread :^)
thanks
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The first few times I tried to connect it may take a long time for the client (PC) to recognize and go through to the internet, give it a few minutes & try to refresh a webpage. It works for me & others.
Bruce777 said:
Needless to say I NO longer have buyers remorse!
Yes, I saw the wireless tethering options...I tried multiple time to initialize it, but my laptop would not connect. Any threads you could send me to? (yes I did look in the ROM thread :^)
thanks
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Wireless tethering worked fine for me when I tested it (only tried it to make sure it worked). I didn't have to do anything special to make it work.
Whyzor said:
The first few times I tried to connect it may take a long time for the client (PC) to recognize and go through to the internet, give it a few minutes & try to refresh a webpage. It works for me & others.
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I was really excited when you said the CM7 native wifi tether worked...but I couldn't get it to
I even factory reset and wiped everything to make sure it was a fresh attempt. Still nothing. Both my PC and Hp touchpad can find the signal but neither connect/keep the connection. After attempting the connection (and saying it's connected for around 3 seconds) the touchpad will no longer reads the wifi signal.
Any threads on this for me to research? I looked to no avail.
Bruce777 said:
I was really excited when you said the CM7 native wifi tether worked...but I couldn't get it to
I even factory reset and wiped everything to make sure it was a fresh attempt. Still nothing. Both my PC and Hp touchpad can find the signal but neither connect/keep the connection. After attempting the connection (and saying it's connected for around 3 seconds) the touchpad will no longer reads the wifi signal.
Any threads on this for me to research? I looked to no avail.
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Nevermind, I just tried wireless tether for root users, after about 10 attempts with the native app, and it works! Better to be lucky than good.
Now...has anyone had any luck getting Sprint visual voicemail to work on this thing? :^) Mine half works , I can compose messages to myself but any calls wont actually work.
thanks again for the replies people. We SHOULDN'T be in 'low activity" section
Bruce777 said:
Nevermind, I just tried wireless tether for root users, after about 10 attempts with the native app, and it works! Better to be lucky than good.
Now...has anyone had any luck getting Sprint visual voicemail to work on this thing? :^) Mine half works , I can compose messages to myself but any calls wont actually work.
thanks again for the replies people. We SHOULDN'T be in 'low activity" section
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VM doesn't support 3rd party Voicemails so getting a visual one may not work... You can ask VM about it and see if they can let you but it may just be a network thing with them...
And the MT is in a low activity section because no one is here there all at android forums...
Triumph has a few hardware issues that won't go away, like GPS and touch response puking randomly.
Also while CM7 does bring extra functionality, it is less stable than stock.
Optimus V is basically the only solid prepaid phone on VM.
Hopefully Sprint learned their lesson to not rebrand POS phones and instead, use existing phones that have proven themselves. We will likely see much better phones by end of 2012 based on what was said at CES '12, so just hang tight.
wonshikee said:
Triumph has a few hardware issues that won't go away, like GPS and touch response puking randomly.
Also while CM7 does bring extra functionality, it is less stable than stock.
Optimus V is basically the only solid prepaid phone on VM.
Hopefully Sprint learned their lesson to not rebrand POS phones and instead, use existing phones that have proven themselves. We will likely see much better phones by end of 2012 based on what was said at CES '12, so just hang tight.
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Yea... by the end of 2012, well its the beginning right now and if they don't start getting newer phones, I may have to switch to another company... I heard Straight Talk is getting the LG Optimus 2X so that may be incentive enough for me. VM needs to get a dual core and not just keep bringing in more and more phones that have 600mhz or 800mhz processors with 3 inch screens...
marc12868 said:
Yea... by the end of 2012, well its the beginning right now and if they don't start getting newer phones, I may have to switch to another company... I heard Straight Talk is getting the LG Optimus 2X so that may be incentive enough for me. VM needs to get a dual core and not just keep bringing in more and more phones that have 600mhz or 800mhz processors with 3 inch screens...
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Yeah that phone looks really promising, but ST is expensive - paying $25 on VM vs $45 for ST, unless you need the higher end plan on VM anyway.
If you're willing to go high end, you can grab a Nexus/GS2 and use it on tmobile's prepaid instead, it's what I'm doing current with TMO's $30/mo plan.
wonshikee said:
Yeah that phone looks really promising, but ST is expensive - paying $25 on VM vs $45 for ST, unless you need the higher end plan on VM anyway.
If you're willing to go high end, you can grab a Nexus/GS2 and use it on tmobile's prepaid instead, it's what I'm doing current with TMO's $30/mo plan.
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So with TMO's prepaid you can use any TMO phone then?
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So with TMO's prepaid you can use any TMO phone then?
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That's what I've heard. If you buy a used/unlocked TMO phone, you can get the TMO activation kit for something like $7 ( it's just a SIM ) and put it in your phone and your good.
This is what I'm thinking about doing myself. I get ok coverage with VM on my LGOV, but not great.
My wife has a TMO Exhibit2-4g and it's a great phone and the service is good as well. She's on the $50/month plan, I'll opt for the $30 I think.
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That's what I've heard. If you buy a used/unlocked TMO phone, you can get the TMO activation kit for something like $7 ( it's just a SIM ) and put it in your phone and your good.
This is what I'm thinking about doing myself. I get ok coverage with VM on my LGOV, but not great.
My wife has a TMO Exhibit2-4g and it's a great phone and the service is good as well. She's on the $50/month plan, I'll opt for the $30 I think.
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Yea I did some looking and youbcan use any t-mo phone. I'm thinking Akita switching over too. $30 for 5gb of 4g and unlimited texting is good deal. I don't even talk on the phone for minutes to matter lol. Vm service is just starting to annoy me :/
i had both of these phones! i liked the V better. but the MT was newer and bigger so went to that. but still have the V.
This may be a strange request, but I would like to get a phone for my young child that is unable to access the internet. I can disable data services through my network provider, but need a phone without Wifi capabilities. However, I would like to get him a touchscreen smartphone if possible.
Does anyone know of such a phone? The only one I have found so far is the Sony Ericsson W150 Yendo, but are there any others?
Thanks
Samsung Touchwiz i think
its pretty old so i dont have that option
The HTC Freestyle from at&t in the United States doesn't have a wifi chip built in so it is required to use cellular data. If you block it there won't be a way for that phone to access internet.
Its basically a dummed down android phone (lower specs and no wifi).
It is GSM, and unlockable for cheap .
Specs are here: gsmarena.com/htc_freestyle-3707.php
I order my unlock codes from a site: unlockusa.com
It has more than USA unlocks available and does AT&T unlocks pretty cheap .
Sorry for not posting the links, only my second post
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deadlocked007 said:
That's horrible man. Don't taunt a kid with a smartphone but disable the WiFi. That's just plain horrible. The point of smartphones almost entirely revolves around their advanced use of the internet. Just buy the kid a feature phone for goodness sakes...
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A smartphone without any data options is still better than a feature phone without them. . .
Better OS, better phone experience.
Also to the OP.. if you disable data to the device that doesn't have any WiFi ability.. it will be impossible for them t download apps or use any of the features like the google play store, maps, etc without you calling in to re-enable the data for the time being, and then disabling it again afterwards.
Well.. you said touchscreen not smartphone. There's the Samsung champ which doesn't have Wi-Fi
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SeaTan said:
This may be a strange request, but I would like to get a phone for my young child that is unable to access the internet. I can disable data services through my network provider, but need a phone without Wifi capabilities. However, I would like to get him a touchscreen smartphone if possible.
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Out of curiosity, what are the reasons? Does he need a phone at all? Why a touchscreen phone and not a regular one?
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LG Cookie? Not a smartphone, but no WiFi and a quite decent touchscreen... Lot of kids have it since it has touchscreen and it's very cheap
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What do you mean better experience -_- you can't do anything with it.... Like what you are saying. The kid will just lust for the use of data man
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The feature phones don't have as nice of a touchscreen (such as the response to touch). They also don't have as nice of menus, or anything to do with messaging is just easier with an android os device. Calling / Contacts, use of an SD card is all much better with a smartphone. Feature phones are quirky with reading pictures off of an SD card that didn't originate in the phone. Whereas android phones have no problems reading any picture files on an SD card.
Bottom line, if you could pick a feature phone, or an android device. Neither getting WiFi or any data connectivity.. which would you choose?
Is it not possible to root and just delete the WiFi modules on any phone?
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Also, the absence of data transfer plan or wifi seems kinda stupid on a OS (Android) that was made to be in sync to the services it provides generally (Google). You even need to login in order to use the device.
The touchscreen argument generally will not hold a lot of water. ZTE even makes Android phones with resistive touchscreens.
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The original Palm Pixi? That's one of the only modern touchscreen smartphones that I can think of without WiFi.
Just dont tell him the wifi password?
Jk, but if your coming to XDA for help i would suggest rooting it and taking out everything related to wifi from /system
You could use any android phone and simply lock wifi access with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sp.protector.free&hl=en so that you could install apps they need but they could not.
That way they get the benefit of new apps or updates without them being able to access the phones wifi.
It also allows locking any app such as browser etc.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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The feature phones don't have as nice of a touchscreen (such as the response to touch). They also don't have as nice of menus, or anything to do with messaging is just easier with an android os device. Calling / Contacts, use of an SD card is all much better with a smartphone. Feature phones are quirky with reading pictures off of an SD card that didn't originate in the phone. Whereas android phones have no problems reading any picture files on an SD card.
Bottom line, if you could pick a feature phone, or an android device. Neither getting WiFi or any data connectivity.. which would you choose?
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Lol what? If you have Verizon I suggest you check out the envtouch by LG. Touch screen, 3" display and you can flip it open for a full QWERTY keyboard that in my opinion no phone stands up to not even Droid 4 even though I like that phones keyboard envroich's is still better.
Never had trouble with SD card, or pictures that where not from that phone. Hell all of my razr v2 camera pics all displayed fine.
Video was a bit of a pain but its a feature phone. And unless you are going from android to envtouch you want notice anything wrong with how well the touch screen works.
Can envtouch be a bastard yeah but so is my dx2 hell I like my envtouch a little bit more then my dx2. Well my old dx2 anyway just got my replacement dx2 and its bugs are far less (though that damn music skip is still there.
For a feature phone the envtouch was the best out of my (unnamed Samsung, my razr, and my razr v2).
Good touch screen
Full QWERTY keyboard
Stereo audio
SD expansion
Good menu system
Good basic apps
Nice build (never needed a screen protector nor case and syllable in great shape)
No wifi.
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You are the most worst parent in the world.
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You are the most worst parent in the world.
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That's an oxymoron
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Getting a touchscreen smartphone without WiFi will be awkward as most of the apps need and use WiFi.There is no use of a smartphone without WiFi And i think you cant call a phone without WiFi a SMARTPHONE.:
He'll be able to side load apps from the SD card, won't need wifi necessarily. Still think it would be easier to just disable the wifi modules on any phone. How old is the kid?
Nokia 5230 or Nokia 5233 if you don't want 3G.
Lets face it, OP is a idiotic child abuser that wants his child to not use new tech. Id rather molest a child than give a low end phone, Its okay 2 years ago, now its not.
OptimusLove said:
Lets face it, OP is a idiotic child abuser that wants his child to not use new tech. Id rather molest a child than give a low end phone, Its okay 2 years ago, now its not.
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Depends on the child. If the kid is responsible enough, give him/her a phone. I see many kids abuse the power of smartphones by taking pictures, harassing other people by calls, SMS or internet, porn, etc... .
I'm consider buying a Galaxy Nexus and I wanted to get some info from the community about the process before ordering through the Google Play store.
1. SIM card: My carrier is T-mobile and I know the phone will work on the their network. When I get the GN is it as simple as putting my SIM card in the new phone and then activating the phone via T-mobile's site? Or is there more to the proceess?
2. Selling the G2x: Once I've got the new phone I'll be selling my G2x on craigslist. What should I worry about as far as security goes? Is it enough to do a factory reset and format the SD card? The phone has already been returned to stock ROM and recovery so I don't have CWM on it right now. Also, once the phone is wiped is there any functionality or do you need to be logged in using a gmail address to do anything? The reason I ask is if a potential buyer wants to see the phone running to make sure it's working, etc, I'd like to be able to do that without worrying about logging in.
3. Opinions on the Galaxy Nexus in the long term: if I buy a Nexus I will probably be using it as my daily driver for at least a year and a half. I know Google will be supporting the OS but I'd like opinions on the hardware. I don't game on my phone at all. I mostly use it for productivity and light entertainment: email, messaging, task management, social media, music, podcast listening, stuff like that.
4. Any other thoughts on the process you might like to add.
And thanks in advance for your responses. I don't post here much but I lurk almost every day and the info I've gotten here has always been valuable.
dmj2012 said:
I'm consider buying a Galaxy Nexus and I wanted to get some info from the community about the process before ordering through the Google Play store.
1. SIM card: My carrier is T-mobile and I know the phone will work on the their network. When I get the GN is it as simple as putting my SIM card in the new phone and then activating the phone via T-mobile's site? Or is there more to the proceess?
2. Selling the G2x: Once I've got the new phone I'll be selling my G2x on craigslist. What should I worry about as far as security goes? Is it enough to do a factory reset and format the SD card? The phone has already been returned to stock ROM and recovery so I don't have CWM on it right now. Also, once the phone is wiped is there any functionality or do you need to be logged in using a gmail address to do anything? The reason I ask is if a potential buyer wants to see the phone running to make sure it's working, etc, I'd like to be able to do that without worrying about logging in.
3. Opinions on the Galaxy Nexus in the long term: if I buy a Nexus I will probably be using it as my daily driver for at least a year and a half. I know Google will be supporting the OS but I'd like opinions on the hardware. I don't game on my phone at all. I mostly use it for productivity and light entertainment: email, messaging, task management, social media, music, podcast listening, stuff like that.
4. Any other thoughts on the process you might like to add.
And thanks in advance for your responses. I don't post here much but I lurk almost every day and the info I've gotten here has always been valuable.
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1. Its as simple as just putting your sim card in. That's all you have to do, as I don't think you have to activate the phone as it comes unlocked and is ready for any sim(which the sim itself is already activated)
2. I'd say wipe the internal storage and go back to a stock rom, unroot, and flash a stock recovery, EDIT: I see you've already did. As SD card goes, sell it separately, or for a few more bucks bundled with the phone or just an added, free extra, as the G2x didn't come with one if I remember correctly. Also, I don't think there is a way to skip setup. I mean I guess you could sign in, and then do a factory reset once more, Im not exactly sure on that one.
3. As hardware for what you'll be doing with it, I say the Nexus is perfect for that. And if so, I've seen the Nexus still performs well when playing heavy games.
4. I say the Nexus is one of the best choices you can go for right now. Its a guaranteed phone that will still be up to date in 2 years. I don't have it but right now I'd get it over any other.
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Thanks for the reply noah. Had to wait a bit because just as I was deciding to get my Nexus Google took it down temporarily. It's back up now so I'm getting ready to make my purchase.
I do have another question - I have a car charger I use for my G2x. Will that be able to plug into the Galaxy Nexus or are the ports different?
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Thanks for the reply noah. Had to wait a bit because just as I was deciding to get my Nexus Google took it down temporarily. It's back up now so I'm getting ready to make my purchase.
I do have another question - I have a car charger I use for my G2x. Will that be able to plug into the Galaxy Nexus or are the ports different?
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Yep, the usb/charging ports are the same(micro USB)
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Thanks again. Last couple days I came close to posting the order and fell short of pulling the trigger on the deal. The only lingering doubt I have right now is longevity. The specs on the Nexus 7 blow away the Galaxy, but I don't want a tablet I want a phone. I'm just afraid of laying out the cash for GN and getting something that may get bogged down in less than a year as apps upgrade to meet hardware specs of newer devices.
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Thanks again. Last couple days I came close to posting the order and fell short of pulling the trigger on the deal. The only lingering doubt I have right now is longevity. The specs on the Nexus 7 blow away the Galaxy, but I don't want a tablet I want a phone. I'm just afraid of laying out the cash for GN and getting something that may get bogged down in less than a year as apps upgrade to meet hardware specs of newer devices.
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I doubt it. As the nexus will continue to be updated for another few years, so it'll continue to pull its own weight good enough(Nexus S still got jelly bean). And besides, there's custom roms and stuff too. It'll be a good purchase.
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