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DIY quick charge system

The dock is obviously great if you don't mind paying for it or get it free. However it's a bit clunky to carry around with you (if using a portable external battery) or in a car.
It's not a great option having to remove the waterproof flap all the time to charge as well.
So I got to thinking, could one modify an old mini / micro usb cable (I've tons of old micro ones laying around), so that the +/- cables go straight to the metal contacts on the Xz. I assume it is just a case of +/- on the docking connector? Would it matter if they were connected the wrong way...?
It'll be a bit of an in-elegant solution but to start with I was thinking of some bluetack and some sort of spacing connector bar to quickly press onto / pull off the phone.

I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
Good luck
For in-car use, I personally would put the sony charger there for the moment.
Brodit the in car holder maker will also make a version of holder which will use the contacts, but not sure when that will be out.

I'm wondering now if it might not be easier just to wait for a cheap chinese dock to come out on ebay. The dock's also got an advantage it'll hold your phone nicely if you want to use it with an external keyboard, or watch a film for example.
Just not keen on spending £25 on one.

I think it would be pretty easy to make your own, for the electrics would it just be a case of cutting the micro usb connector off then attaching red + black wires?

MobiusPizza said:
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
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Could someone with a dock check and post it?
Would be great.

This would be so cool. If it was like the Magsafe connectors on Macbooks it would be ideal. Probably not for me though. Hope you can do it.

Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..

MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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copper foil would be easiest way to make the contacts, I've used it a few times in the past with my DIY wireless chargers

MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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I think that the biggest challange will be finding someone who will tell us which pin is + .....
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has anyone got a dock yet?
The 3rd party stockists haven't shipped them yet have they? The bundle/deal is a post out one..

made a sort of dock, using 2 pins from a computer molex connector + foil, held the correct distance apart with glue from a hot glue gun, but need to wait until someone can find out the polarity before trying it!

I have exactly the same DIY idea but I want to kill two birds in one stone – wireless charging and MagSafe type of mobile charging interface.
I target for Xperia Z for its IPX protection and 4G. Being an IPX certified device, the port covers are important that I don’t know why Sony doesn’t have wireless charging just like its competitor Panasonic (model P-02E has both wireless charging and replaceable battery) having. The charging dock can solve this shortcoming a bit but the dock is only good for placing at home or in the office. When charging with external battery pack on the road, the it is better to have some handy charging cable to charge through the 2-pin. Then MagSafe type of cable is a good candidate.
Googled a bit and found a flip case (Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z) with Qi charging ready and I wonder it is utilizing the 2-pin as well. If I do the DIY, I will use a thin plastic case with the following components:
1) attach a Qi/Touchstone charging coil at the inner back side of the case
2) on side edge of the case facing the 2-pin of the device, I will attach a new 2-pin port with 2 small iron plate on each end, the 2-pin will connect to the charging coil and acts as the connector for the 2-pin of the device and piggy-back to the dock for charging
3) MagSafe type of charging cable is made by a normal USB cable with one end chopped to make a 2-pin connector with 2 small permanent magnets on each end for attaching to the iron plate mounted on the case above

Great idea Kimmy, looking forward to your work! Let us know what parts you use and where you get them! Would be great !
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I was thinking of a simple clip onto the side over the pogo pins.
Has anyone got the polarity yet?
Those of you who maybe reading this and have the dock already please check the polarity.

And we have an answer!
The + is the upper pin, - is the lower
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38868648
Time to start playing
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car

jimsey said:
I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger

antipesto93 said:
This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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yeah I wanted spring loaded pins and came across the old sony charger adapter when looking through my box of spares.
I opened up the jack and the pins just slide out with some careful pulling and slide back into another position, I then trimmed off the 2 prongs sony use to hold the charger into the phone, then it was just a case of fixing the jack in place with some hot glue.
the other idea i had was nabbing the battery contacts out of one of my daughters old toys, or making contacts from copper foil, but i'm happy with this result.
As i said I'll cover it in Black felt or plether tomorrow, and i'm sure it look much neater

What about instead of making a dock, just making a small, magnetized connector that attaches directly to the pins?
I'm still waiting for the phone to be released here so cant experiment but do you think this could be achievable?

I'm going to have a go at a small clip on using sugru/silicon rubber
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Good case that works with wireless charging back?

Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,

seanvree said:
Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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I'm thinking of getting that case. What spigen case do you have?

jedichris83 said:
I'm thinking of getting that case. What spigen case do you have?
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Most TPU based cases work well like cruzerlite or diztronic work well

Anyone have a link to a genuine seller of the TPU cases?
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seanvree said:
Anyone have a link to a genuine seller of the TPU cases?
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For tpu cases try Cruzerlite: http://www.cruzerlite.com/cases/samsung/galaxy-s-iv They come in a variety of styles and colors plus their TPU cases work with wireless charging backs. Hope this helps.

Still searching, cases don't fit or are extremely too tight and I'm afraid that it will hurt the phone longterm
Rocking the Roocase bumper which was a little tight but not insane and has finally adjusted, would like something high end while offering a little more protection

Does anyone know if the Spigen cases would work? They say TPU, so I'm wondering if they would fit?
http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Pr...&qid=1374608648&sr=1-1&keywords=tpu+galaxy+S4

seanvree said:
Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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I just received my wireless charging cover yesterday.
Ran into the same fit or in this case, not fit issue with my BodyGlove Nova cover. It appears that the wireless charging cover is 1 - 3 mm thicker than the original cover.
I called BodyGlove and they we rather adamant that they WOULD NOT EVER design a case for anything other than a device with the original cover. They will not design a case for a device with en extended battery or wireless cover.
I got on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the NFC cover is the same thickness as the original cover and that standard cases would work. Unfortunately, the NFC cover is not available in the US.
I got back on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the standard Case Plus (S 8878121) would work with the wireless cover. I went out to BestBuy and picked one of the Cover Plus'. Will report back how it works out.
I do think that I might be able to mill down the BodyGlove case internal surface enough so that it will fit the phone with the wireless charging cover. My neighbor has a precision mill that he uses for his home business. He makes specialize, custom parts (Plastic!) for the oil field industry. Will give that a chat and see how it works out.
What a pain in the a%&*#(@%(*&!

mmeyer4663 said:
I just received my wireless charging cover yesterday.
Ran into the same fit or in this case, not fit issue with my BodyGlove Nova cover. It appears that the wireless charging cover is 1 - 3 mm thicker than the original cover.
I called BodyGlove and they we rather adamant that they WOULD NOT EVER design a case for anything other than a device with the original cover. They will not design a case for a device with en extended battery or wireless cover.
I got on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the NFC cover is the same thickness as the original cover and that standard cases would work. Unfortunately, the NFC cover is not available in the US.
I got back on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the standard Case Plus (S 8878121) would work with the wireless cover. I went out to BestBuy and picked one of the Cover Plus'. Will report back how it works out.
I do think that I might be able to mill down the BodyGlove case internal surface enough so that it will fit the phone with the wireless charging cover. My neighbor has a precision mill that he uses for his home business. He makes specialize, custom parts (Plastic!) for the oil field industry. Will give that a chat and see how it works out.
What a pain in the a%&*#(@%(*&!
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The OEM Samsung cover will not work with charging back. There is already thread on this with many posts and pictures. etc. The Cruzerlite TPU cases works with my S4 and wireless charging back. 9 bucks at Amazon.

Save yourself some $$$ I have the OEM wireless back and this receiver pad. The receiver pad works very well and works with the normal back allowing for use with OEM cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5d3fda606b

If the Spigen Neo Hybrid is your thing, it fits with the wireless charging cover. It creates a slightly raised area on the back, but I actually prefer it. I wanted to get the aftermarket wireless receiver posted above, but there wasn't a consensus as to whether or not it was slower to charge. Although, so far it's taking the OEM base and cover around 3 1/2 hours from ~15% to fully charge the battery - that's not exactly great.

planoman said:
Save yourself some $$$ I have the OEM wireless back and this receiver pad. The receiver pad works very well and works with the normal back allowing for use with OEM cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5d3fda606b
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Do you know if this will work with the Samsung Wireless Charging Pad?

There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.

zeroeffect9k said:
There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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Wow, these are great points. I didn't think about the whole on/off thing. Crap.
Another question, what's the best wireless charging base? I'd prefer one that used a micro-USB for power as the Verizon pad does not.

zeroeffect9k said:
There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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Yeah I guess I am unusual in that I do not charge my phone by the bed or even in the bedroom. My lg charging pad is on my home office desk. I have noticed a little more heat from the receiver pad but nothing bad.
I also have the Samsung charging back which is great but it makes the phone too big and heavy. I use it if I am staying inside but replace the back if I am going out...or I used to until getting the receiver pad which allows a regular case.
I have the cruzerlite tpu case and it is fine for when I am using charging back. I also have the Roos bumper which works but I did not like the back being bare.
The easiest solution is the receiver pad which works with any Qi charging pad and allows for using regular cases all for $10. If you charge the phone by the bed at night, just plug in your USB charger. The value of wireless charging is when you are using the phone during day and do not want to plug in each time you lay the phone down or talk with a wire attached to your phone. My opinion.
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planoman said:
Yeah I guess I am unusual in that I do not charge my phone by the bed or even in the bedroom. My lg charging pad is on my home office desk. I have noticed a little more heat from the receiver pad but nothing bad.
I also have the Samsung charging back which is great but it makes the phone too big and heavy. I use it if I am staying inside but replace the back if I am going out...or I used to until getting the receiver pad which allows a regular case.
I have the cruzerlite tpu case and it is fine for when I am using charging back. I also have the Roos bumper which works but I did not like the back being bare.
The easiest solution is the receiver pad which works with any Qi charging pad and allows for using regular cases all for $10. If you charge the phone by the bed at night, just plug in your USB charger. The value of wireless charging is when you are using the phone during day and do not want to plug in each time you lay the phone down or talk with a wire attached to your phone. My opinion.
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This is a really good point. I noticed that my "excitement" of going with wireless charging was really more than what reality was. Is it really that inconvenient to plug the phone into a charger? No, it is not. The main thing would be when you are often using your phone such as during the day at work or at home. Using the phone with the cable plugged in is a hassle.
Honestly, I can go all day without charging my phone. I leave home around 6:30 am and the phone is anywhere from 50 to 25% when I go to bed around 10-11pm. Depends on how much I use it, and in reality, I don't use it too heavily. Weekends are a different monster where I have more time to play games or watch videos and often have to charge it. Having the wireless charging pad downstairs also is nice as I can put it on the table next to the sofa and watch TV while it is charging and pick it up when I want.
Is there a need to wireless charge at night? Absolutely not. If the 3rd party receiver allows you to use the cover you prefer (I prefer a S View type that is a case, not just a back cover) then having a charging pad around for convenience especially during the day is a good thing. No need to use wireless charging at night.
Have gave it some thought over the past day and now am considering a dock/speaker type stand that I used to have for my iphone. It was nice to use it as an alarm clock and listen to audio books while in bed. This will also effect my choice of case also, as the s view flip cover won't be ideal for that at all... oh well.

I can also confirm that the Neo-Hybrid Spigen case works with the Samsung wireless charging back.
However, if you are using the tetrax car mount solution with the Spigen Case.... you may want to take the case off prior to wireless charging as the magnet needed to hold up the phone to the mount will get EXTREMELY hot and not sure how that affected my wireless charging case ><;;;; however, it WILL still work even with that magnet bulge on if you really are too lazy to take it off... from what I can tell, not sure if that magnet really messed up my samsung wireless back... but the battery doesnt really charge if the screen is on... I will test again later.... I hate not having the screen on if the phone is charging ><
Then the question becomes why even get the wireless charging solution if you have to take the case off..... because I can =)
Update: Will be ordering a iOttie HLCRIO104 and fix the tetrax magnet to it that way I dont have to remove case every time for the magnet. Will respond with my fix

Experience with magnetic qi car charger

I'm about to build one but I haven't found any experiences of people with a note 4 in regards to battery temps. Are any of you using this set up in your car? I'm a limo driver so it'll be running bluetooth music, navigation, voice, text, and Gsheets 55 hours a week. A spare battery wouldn't be awful but it would cause a hasty case peeling every day.
I plan to simply tape magnets into a plate charger and my case, tape the plate into an iottie, and connect it to a 3amp connection.
If you are having heat problems please mention your feed amperage and if you've seen any battery capacity changes. I'd pay 20$ every six months to replace it but I don't want a steady decline in capacity.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...23677303&sr=8-12&keywords=qi+wireless+charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P48BIFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Holder...77348&sr=1-1&keywords=iottie+easy+one+touch+2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O7RA3Q8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Coupon for iottie and mpow got me 5$ off each, magnets and tape from leftover projects. 50$ total, plate fits perfectly like it was a phone and tastefully wrapped gorilla tape should make it non slip, well anchored to the iottie, but still easily removable with a knife. Phone then sticks just outside of the claws against the plate. Just waiting and stressing over heat before the qi adapter to arrives tomorrow
Props to this thread for inspiring this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...to-make-magnetic-qi-car-charger-dock-t2531754

Don't know about magnets... would it throw off gps and mess with the magnetometer? It may act up.
As for wireless charging, its not a problem. It gets warm at times, but when your phone's already charged up and its just trickling, its not. It's hit or miss sometimes. Some days at home, its gets pretty warm, like if you were playing graphic intensive games for a while. But at work where i'm streaming music all day long, its not that hot.

i use an itian wireless charger with a samsung oem qi back and the iblason armorbox case. i mounted the itian vertically on the car dash with scotch outdoor waterproof double sided tape. it works very well. instant charging when i push it into the itian charger and i can pull it out with no problems. note that the phone is too heavy for the air vent mounting (it cracks the air vent) and the suction cup works very badly. magnetic is bad too -- it will throw off your GPS/mess with the signal. just get the itian and armorbox.

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Don't know about magnets... would it throw off gps and mess with the magnetometer? It may act up.
As for wireless charging, its not a problem. It gets warm at times, but when your phone's already charged up and its just trickling, its not. It's hit or miss sometimes. Some days at home, its gets pretty warm, like if you were playing graphic intensive games for a while. But at work where i'm streaming music all day long, its not that hot.
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Which charger do you use? When I connected this plate to a 1amp charger it would make my note3 battery temp hit the high 40s, with a 2.5 min it would barely change the temp but that was overnight and not running a half dozen tools with the screen on. When you play games that's the processor heating up, and it's made to handle much higher temps than the battery. Have you perchance checked the battery temps when it feels warm?
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i use an itian wireless charger with a samsung oem qi back and the iblason armorbox case. i mounted the itian vertically on the car dash with scotch outdoor waterproof double sided tape. it works very well. instant charging when i push it into the itian charger and i can pull it out with no problems. note that the phone is too heavy for the air vent mounting (it cracks the air vent) and the suction cup works very badly. magnetic is bad too -- it will throw off your GPS/mess with the signal. just get the itian and armorbox.
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Have you guys experienced the magnet/gps problem or is it just the assumption that a magnetic field will effect radio waves? I used a magnetic dock with my note 3 without any issues and there are very few reports of that in other diy mag/qi threads claim there was any change... I might change the case magnets to thin steel plates so they double as shielding if there's an issue though.

I use 2 amp chargers on all of them. Have a lot. I have mixed ones. Got a samsung one and a bunch of those cheapies you find on ebay and amazon. The cheapies work much better than the samsung one. The Samsung is very finicky with the placement in order to charge. Battery temps? I dont check since it's not beyond the realm of "warm".

dont use magnets. it will throw off your inertial guidance in tunnels and areas of bad GPS reception. your phone has a very sensitive MEMS magnetometer. you will likely damage that as well. there is zero need to use magnets.
a 3 coil charger will keep the phone at ambient temps. A 1 coil charger will heat up the phone if not properly aligned. The itian one from ebay is cheap and good - use that. It holds the phone very securely and expands all 3 holders - bottom left and right sides - to clamp the phone very securely. battery temp should be in the 35 or below range if you have a 3 coil charger.

zurkx said:
dont use magnets. it will throw off your inertial guidance in tunnels and areas of bad GPS reception. your phone has a very sensitive MEMS magnetometer. you will likely damage that as well. there is zero need to use magnets.
a 3 coil charger will keep the phone at ambient temps. A 1 coil charger will heat up the phone if not properly aligned. The itian one from ebay is cheap and good - use that. It holds the phone very securely and expands all 3 holders - bottom left and right sides - to clamp the phone very securely. battery temp should be in the 35 or below range if you have a 3 coil charger.
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Do you rep for itian? All the posts I've seen from you mention them... I need something I can use in a different vehicle every day, so tape isn't my bag. Modern phones are made without ferrous metals since otherwise being near decent magnets(giant speakers at a concert, keychain magnets, etc) would permanently ruin your magnetometer, the magnetometer won't work when the phone's docked but it'll be fine once it's taken off. Thanks for getting me to do the research, I learned a lot
The magnets let you get perfect alignment so you can use a much smaller 1 coil unit, then it's low amperage that creates the heat. They'd also let me easily grab my phone on and off without worrying about wearing out mechanical stuff or reattaching problems. Limo driving means I grab my phone at least ten times an hour to enter data or let customers pick music, that's 550 times a week minimum, and at that rate I wear through an iottie 1 touch 2(that takes two hands to reattach) in four months.
Still looking for someone with personal experience of heavy load qi charging on a note 4, what worries me is that there doesn't seem to be many when it's such a great option...

no i dont rep for em. i have an itian and 4 others. the itian works the best so i mention it. the armorbox also works great for me and im not an iblason rep either. i promote stuff which i like and works for me personally.
the magnetometer is for finding headings and for your inertial guidance but if those are not important to you, whatever. good luck with your magnetic mount. im sure the next set of posts are going to be - why doesnt my GPS work properly anymore.

Samsung vehicle dock is AWFUL

I just got the current Samsung Vehicle dock and have to say, it's TERRIBLE. There are large side arms that grab the phone and they GET IN THE WAY. There doesn't appear to be any way to reduce this, short of hacking up the plastic and rubber.
It's a shockingly dumb design. It's not like the arms need to be that deep. Because none of the phones intended for this dock would ever need that much grab area. Because if you put a thick case on the phone, well, you'd have no need for the wireless charging aspect of this dock. Which is the only reason you'd shell out the money for it, as it's quite a lot more expensive than a non-charging one. That and the click-to-release button is kind of awkward to use. It's tucked around the back and, depending on how you mount the dock, kind of hard to get to if the usb power cable is in the way.
I should point out that with a Spigen Neo Hybrid case the S6 still charges in this dock. But the side ears still get in the way.
So, any suggestions on other wireless Qi charging vehicle docks that are known to work reliably with the S6? While still allowing some reasonable use of the phone while docked?

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I just got the current Samsung Vehicle dock and have to say, it's TERRIBLE. There are large side arms that grab the phone and they GET IN THE WAY. There doesn't appear to be any way to reduce this, short of hacking up the plastic and rubber.
It's a shockingly dumb design. It's not like the arms need to be that deep. Because none of the phones intended for this dock would ever need that much grab area. Because if you put a thick case on the phone, well, you'd have no need for the wireless charging aspect of this dock. Which is the only reason you'd shell out the money for it, as it's quite a lot more expensive than a non-charging one. That and the click-to-release button is kind of awkward to use. It's tucked around the back and, depending on how you mount the dock, kind of hard to get to if the usb power cable is in the way.
I should point out that with a Spigen Neo Hybrid case the S6 still charges in this dock. But the side ears still get in the way.
So, any suggestions on other wireless Qi charging vehicle docks that are known to work reliably with the S6? While still allowing some reasonable use of the phone while docked?
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Airdock 2.0...

Tylt makes a dock with wireless charging built in. If I was gunna get a car dock that's what I would look in to
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The reviews for the Tylt are all over the map, and lots focus on crappy manufacturing issues.

The Airdock isn't for me. I prefer having some physical borders of some sort to avoid having to fiddle with positioning the phone for charging.
I've had Droid slider phones for years and loved their molded cradles (that and the keyboard). I've used a number of Qi charging pads with some tablets and really dislike not having a reliable plunk-it-down way to get them situated. Curiously, though, a Bobj case for a Nexus 7 straddles a Docooler pad perfectly. Trouble is it leaves the tablet looking like a drink coaster...
The Samsung dock fit right onto the same ball as the one in the back of my D4 mount.
I've also kept all my vehicle mounts on a Pro-Clip bracket. I'm using this one currently. I've had different mounting brackets over the years, and swapped around different mounting components. I use a Dual-T screwed onto the bracket and then a Dual-T Ball (from Arkon, iirc). This lets me pop just about all of it off the bracket to reduce theft risks. These have been MUCH more stable and useful (for me) than any sort of suction cup, vent or other mounting gizmos.
I've ordered an iOttie, we'll see how that goes.

Yep, as I expected, the iOttie is an improvement, at least in usability of the phone while docked. The side clamps on the iOttie sit higher on the side of the S6 than the Samsung dock. The right side clamp is mighty close to the side power button, but JUST barely below it. I may, at some point, nibble a small bit of the rubber out of that part of the clamp to avoid the button entirely. But for now it's not a problem. The S6 charges just fine in the dock. The lower clamp drops down enough to allow the S6 to detect the coil. And it also slides left/right to allow plugging an audio cable into the headphone jack on the bottom of the S6, should you so desire.
I'll report back more in another thread for it. But that won't happen until I get my replacement Pro-Clip mount for my Jeep. I managed to crack the tab that it uses to fit into the seam of the dashboard. Either it was me being ham-fisted, UV damage to the plastic or some combination of the two.
Regardless, FedEx tracking claims it'll be here on Tuesday. I won't hold my breath as FedEx has routinely missed their delivery targets. UPS, on the other hand, seems to be glad to get stuff in and out of their system as fast as possible, regardless of the delivery speed selected. FedEx seems to think that unless you've 'bent over' for their overnight fee then they'll route it to Hell and back instead of anything that might be quicker.

How is the charging speed in the Qi docks compared to the power usage of the phone sith gps nav running? I remember most of the phones I had were slowly discharging when using 1 amp charger in the car, I had to switch to 2 amps to make sure they sustain the power drain and charge the phone while navigating. Qi has like 750 mA charging current if I recall, isn't that too little?

Been using the air dock for couple of months now. Overall have really enjoyed it, works well when you position it properly.
It takes a bit do getting used to but once you have the right surface and positioning technique it works a charm!
+1 for air dock.
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Recommend: The best wireless charging car dock

Hi All,
I ordered my Note 9 512gb a little while back and have a few more weeks to wait. While I'm waiting I'm getting all the stuff I think I want to have with it. One of those things is a wireless charging car dock. There are too many out there to really know which is best so I thought I would ask the people that already have the note9 and possibly are already using a wireless car dock. Thanks!

I'm interested too. I'm searching for one usable with the clear view cover. Magnetic one would be great but I'm scared by the metallic ring and Qi interferences. I'm thinking of building my own based on the magnet already in the cover...

Nobody has a pony in this race?

I went with Choetech one for my other car because it has a USB C inout for power. Works good, about the same as the iottie one touch except not as convenient.
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I went with Choetech one for my other car because it has a USB C inout for power. Works good, about the same as the iottie one touch except not as convenient.
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Thanks Gottria, I'll look into it :good:

I like the Choetech charger but 2 things bug me. The arms are slightly curved inwards toward the end and when the phone sits in the cradle all the way back the tips of the arms slightly block the screen. And forget about accessing the side edge function. 2nd is the mount, it doesn't use the 17mm ball and it's reversed compared to other mounts. The socket needs to be on the back of the device instead of the ball.
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I like the Choetech charger but 2 things bug me. The arms are slightly curved inwards toward the end and when the phone sits in the craddle all the way back the tips of the arms slightly block the screen. And forget about accessing the side edge function. 2nd is the mount, it doesn't use the 17mm ball and it's reversed compared to other mounts. The socked needs to be on the back of the device instead of the ball.
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Thanks gottria. I use a panavise mount in my C63 and have a 17mm ball to hook the dock onto. This would've completely screwed up my setup :highfive:

I've just bought the choetech fast wireless charger mount. I have a Vauxhall vivaro and theres no good way to mount it so its on the windscreen towards the top with a USB trailing down to the quick charge 12v plug I use. I can see it being a pain but doesn't really block my view. I prefer air vent mounts had a baseus wireless charger but didn't even charge the phone. Compared to the choetech its much more cheapy and flimsy the choetech feels solid. Which is good but if anyone can advice a way I Can get a air vent mount to hold it to that then would prefer it.
My main worry about the choetech is with cold freezing weather coming in and frozen windscreens how well will it actually hold up as dont want my £1000 phone dropping and smashing. :fingers-crossed:

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I'm interested too. I'm searching for one usable with the clear view cover. Magnetic one would be great but I'm scared by the metallic ring and Qi interferences. I'm thinking of building my own based on the magnet already in the cover...
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If you find a solution, let me know. I too am struggling to find one that works with the clear view cover

I have to say that when it comes to car mounts period, the folks at EXOGEAR are the best from my experience over the years. I've used their tablet and smartphone mounts. These mofos stick to practically any surface. Couple that with the way the phone snaps in and out of the mounts? It's so quick and easy.
But now I'm learning these guys make wireless chargers for their mounts. It says it goes "up to" 9v so I'm curious how fast it actually charges the N9.
Since it's EXOGEAR and I swear by their suction cup performance I'm going to buy it soon as it comes available and I'll check back later and let y'all know how it worked out. I honestly never felt the need to have a wireless charger in my car because I typically have plenty of battery life by the time I get home but this wireless charger peaked my interest.
https://exogear.com/product/exomount-qi/

I purchased the iOttie and loved it enough to purchase a second one for my wifes car. I havent found a single suction cup that would work with my leather in the car so I purchased a panavise mount and 17mm ball adapter to mount it. But while waiting for those to arrive I tested the suction cup and it holds... amazingly. The mount hasn't shifted in the slightest and I have launched the car from a dead stop a few times trying to get it to shake lose. I can feel my body violently being forced back into the seat but the mount doesn't look fazed. First time I can actual praise a suction cup mounting system.
Also I thought I should add that "Fast Charging" is displayed when the phone is docked.

I'm using the Baseus Qi Wireless Magnetic Fast Charger and it's pretty good. The only downside is if you have stiff car suspension (like in sports car) and get into a big bump, the phone can lose grip and fall.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32836...l&spm=2114.12010612.8148356.49.9226935c3ACvcY

Since my car already has a navigation screen I don't need the phone up in the vent area. Besides I didn't like any of the in vent holders. The magnetic phone holders out there I don't like since if i hit a bump or pothole the phone will fall due to its weight. There is a coin slot holder in my care but the wireless ones usually have a base that won't fit in that holder. But I then found a wood wireless charger a while back that had a metal base which is removable. I placed it in the coin holder and it charges my then Note 8, now Note 9 even with a case. Granted it is not a fast charge type of wireless charger but it does charge my phones quickly enough on the half hour of driving from work to home. So it does the job enough for me, looks great and I don't have to worry about the phone falling off a magnet or blocking the vent.