Wifi drops on Galaxy S 19000 CM nightly - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
As the title states the wifi stops working after a few minutes. It says it is connected and the signal strength is good but I have no access with the browser or anything web related.
If I turn the wifi off and on again it works for a little bit.
This is the 3rd ROM I have tried with the same issue,
Any ideas are welcome ?

Wifi drops
Haven't resolved this yet

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Haven't resolved this yet
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[Q] Anyone else Having wifi connection issues with the xoom?

Hey I was wondering if anyone else was having wifi connection issues with the xoom? Every time I use my xoom I have to keep retrying to load the market, webpages and everything else that uses data. Usually have to reload the market around 3-5 times to get it to work. I have tried 2 different routers and stilll the same thing. Please let me know if anyone else is having this issue and if there is a way to fix it. Thanks
P.s. When Im on 3G everything is fine
I get it but only with Market, I assumed it was a market issue.
On. 3G, for me, everything is dog slow, but I never get the Retry box.
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slyty71 said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone else was having wifi connection issues with the xoom? Every time I use my xoom I have to keep retrying to load the market, webpages and everything else that uses data. Usually have to reload the market around 3-5 times to get it to work. I have tried 2 different routers and stilll the same thing. Please let me know if anyone else is having this issue and if there is a way to fix it. Thanks
P.s. When Im on 3G everything is fine
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Mine works perfect with my AT&T U-Verse gateway and tethered to my AT&T captivate. No problems here at all with wifi. Do you have problems with other wifi routers? Go to Starbucks or a friends and see if the same issue occurs. If not, there is something with your router that Xoom does not like.
I'm having WiFi issues as well. I don't have any issues with any other laptops in my house ... but my Xoom ... get very poor signal on WiFi and sometimes doesn't get any connection at all. This is serious buzz kill.
Mine is also choking on wifi. Switch to 3g and no problems. Annoying.
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srafail said:
get very poor signal on WiFi and sometimes doesn't get any connection at all. This is serious buzz kill.
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Hardly surpisring when the antenna is surrounded by glass and plastic
Wifi is suspect on the Xoom. I cannot get a connection to my secure wireless at work but I can connect to the less secure guest wireless network. I also could not initially tether with my phone (TMobile Vibrant) but after I downloaded Mobile AP I was able to tether just fine and have not had any issues since then.
No complaints here to report. I'm pulling in on average a speed of 17mbps download on most days from my home wifi network. Quite the speedy little guy my Xoom is.
WiFi hasnt been a problem for me either.
So far, I've used it on 4 different wireless networks (G and N/G), using various security options and I connect to each without fail. Hell, Ive even seen the Xoom connect to WiFi when driving down the street towards places that I have it configured to see.
I did have some trouble at one point due to my DNS and DHCP servers being offline. I didnt suspect any issues with them, so I spent more time than I should have troubleshooting the Xoom.
slyty71 said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone else was having wifi connection issues with the xoom? Every time I use my xoom I have to keep retrying to load the market, webpages and everything else that uses data. Usually have to reload the market around 3-5 times to get it to work. I have tried 2 different routers and stilll the same thing. Please let me know if anyone else is having this issue and if there is a way to fix it. Thanks
P.s. When Im on 3G everything is fine
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Known problem... see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985536&highlight=wifi
Always Connecting...
Greetings All,
I have been having issues as well after the update. The wireless always disconnects and connects and doesn't stay connected. No problems with my Droid X or laptop or other device.
Problem is that now I'm getting very close to going over my data plan.
Is there a fix in the works, since it worked perfectly with 3.0
Annoyed...
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UPDATE: Uninstalled the leaked Flash 10.2 and that has fixed the problem, somewhat. Still disconnects, but less.
slyty71 said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone else was having wifi connection issues with the xoom? Every time I use my xoom I have to keep retrying to load the market, webpages and everything else that uses data. Usually have to reload the market around 3-5 times to get it to work. I have tried 2 different routers and stilll the same thing. Please let me know if anyone else is having this issue and if there is a way to fix it. Thanks
P.s. When Im on 3G everything is fine
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No it doesnt happen to me.
Glad I found this. Yes mine doea it too. If I linger on a webpage for more than 30 seconds or so, it disconnects. (Yes I have all settings set correctly) same issue with market and now facebook and twitter app after the update. No connection or synchronization failed.
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Wireless issue fixed....
Greetings again,
Even after uninstalling flash, the problem persisted somewhat. I was getting very frustrated and so I reset the xoom to factory settings. A few notes on that. All applications were reinstalled, through the market which is good and bad.
So far, after 2 days of heavy wireless use, not a single drop in wifi connectivity.
Hope this helps...
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slyty71 said:
Hey I was wondering if anyone else was having wifi connection issues with the xoom? Every time I use my xoom I have to keep retrying to load the market, webpages and everything else that uses data. Usually have to reload the market around 3-5 times to get it to work. I have tried 2 different routers and stilll the same thing. Please let me know if anyone else is having this issue and if there is a way to fix it. Thanks
P.s. When Im on 3G everything is fine
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So far my wireless is great. I use WP2 Secure at home, a WEP at my parents, and a MAC based approval network at work. All are steady with full bars and no issues.
SleeplessNinja
MyXoomChannel http://www.youtube.com/sleeplessninjas
Its the encrypton protocol, WPA2 with AES will cause problems.
TKIP works.
I also have random issues. Some days its just fine, but other days wifi works and then stops working, usually a reboot fixes it.
Must be some wifi issue.
I have a fully factory stock xoom and have had NO wy fy problems at all! internet conection firm and stable. I intend not to root my zoom untill all the important updates are done and stable. I also am waiting for my 4G card install. I have WPA2 with AES and the xoom conected to it with NO problem
I haven't had any problems with mine whatsoever. I think it could be your router. My Xoom stays connected with my router and I haven't had a single problem so far with connected wifi.
My PS3 needs a router reset every single time I want to play Black Ops though.
ihad this issue. I think it may be hioneycomb and not xoom related because I experienced it on the acer iconia. The good news is that I resolved my connection issue with wifi. On the surface it looks like a dhcp handshake issue so, if you assign your xoom a static ip from your router, the issue goes away and all is good.

[Q] Wifi

Not to continuously post stuff on XDA about this phone...but I am curious....my Wifi keeps disconnecting and reconnecting....depends sometime 1-2 mins into using Wifi and somethings after using it for more than 1 hour....none of my other devices have this issue and I was just wondering if anyone else has this problem with this phone...thank you
Edit: It still happens....hmm
zrmxp95 said:
Not to continuously post stuff on XDA about this phone...but I am curious....my Wifi keeps disconnecting and reconnecting....depends sometime 1-2 mins into using Wifi and somethings after using it for more than 1 hour....none of my other devices have this issue and I was just wondering if anyone else has this problem with this phone...thank you
Edit: Never mind....my computer loses connection too just doesn't show it...using a different wireless router and seeing if I drop connection with it....sorry for posting useless stuff
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I've been having the same issues... I have a laptop that doesn't seem to have any problems with my current router (Medialink Wireless N router I got off Amazon - good router until this issue...). It also doesn't matter how close I am to the router either. I've been sitting 2 feet from my router, and it will still continuously disconnect and reconnect. Let me know what your findings are...
Idk if this will help: settings/wifi/menu/advanced/keep wifi on during sleep. I have mine set to always, no problem here. If that doesn't help try assigning an ip through your routers dhcp.
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Ok....so it does still happen....on my Netgear 7550, Linksys E4200, Linksys E3000, and almost every other network I connect to...it is really frustrating...
It happens to me when I'm in my apartment bedroom some on the far side (I normally plug it up at night to my right on the headboard) which is about furthest from my router I can get inside...but otherwise I don't have the issue when I'm closer. I've started wondering if the phone just doesn't pick up wi-fi as well, though in fairness I have a single-antenna fairly cheap Rosewill router (RNX-N150RT).
Change the wifi ip settings on the phone from dhcp to auto. Mine was set to default to dhcp.
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slantyshanty said:
Change the wifi ip settings on the phone from dhcp to auto. Mine was set to default to dhcp.
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I tried this and it still drops wifi...but for some reason wifi tether doesn't drop...still don't know if its hardware or software related
My phone keeps dropping wifi as well and it happens on every wifi I'm connected to and its very annoying.
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megan23247 said:
My phone keeps dropping wifi as well and it happens on every wifi I'm connected to and its very annoying.
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I am wondering if it is a bug with the phones software because it also drops on every connection I connect to also.....maybe we should contact sprint / motorola
megan23247 said:
My phone keeps dropping wifi as well and it happens on every wifi I'm connected to and its very annoying.
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zrmxp95 said:
I am wondering if it is a bug with the phones software because it also drops on every connection I connect to also.....maybe we should contact sprint / motorola
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I'd have to think you guys have bad hardware, or something else not playing nice... I have connected to MANY access points (even in different countries) and never had an issue with it dropping. I even make wifi calls for long conference calls, so I would definitely notice if it did drop...
zrmxp95 said:
I am wondering if it is a bug with the phones software because it also drops on every connection I connect to also.....maybe we should contact sprint / motorola
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Yeah, I have the same issue. I've discovered that it doesn't disconnect if I'm within 5 feet of the access point, which isn't exactly a great option, but does suggest maybe a software fix or a straightforward hardware hack like the Atrix 2.
Ok so even after the update the wifi still drops....even when i am right next to the router....but I can say that when i am using WiFi tether it doesn't drop the tether connection....it all seems weird to me...
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Possible solution - try this and see if it works for you
Was running into this problem on my new Pho Q (too fun calling it that), where it would drop wifi and report a connection was available on the left side, then connect again, every 15s to a min.
To resolve (at least so far now for me for about an hour):
Settings - Wifi - Menu - Advanced:
Uncheck Show Reminders
It seemed that having it popup a reminder of available networks could be related to it noticing my available network every few seconds, and it seems to have helped me. Try it and report back. :highfive:
Ok, seems its still happening, but far less often at least. When I have some time, I'll try to do an A-B-A test but it does seem better than it was before disabling the setting.
cmags said:
Ok, seems its still happening, but far less often at least. When I have some time, I'll try to do an A-B-A test but it does seem better than it was before disabling the setting.
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I still seem to have this problem - anyone figure out a solution? I'm getting really tired of not being able to use wifi at home, since I get next to no reception... Gets frustrating really fast when it disconnects and reconnects every minute or so
JasonDelta said:
I still seem to have this problem - anyone figure out a solution? I'm getting really tired of not being able to use wifi at home, since I get next to no reception... Gets frustrating really fast when it disconnects and reconnects every minute or so
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Someone thought it was related to smart actions - do you have any of those enabled?
I've never had any issues with wifi - and I've used many different types of routers and security models.
Have you tried changing your wireless channel on your router or gateway? By default most start on 6, so changing it to 1 or 11 might reduce interference from nearby wireless signals. Are you a long distance from your router/gateway?
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arrrghhh said:
Someone thought it was related to smart actions - do you have any of those enabled?
I've never had any issues with wifi - and I've used many different types of routers and security models.
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Not using Smart Actions (I use Settings Profile app from the Play Store instead)
UnicronAlpha99 said:
Have you tried changing your wireless channel on your router or gateway? By default most start on 6, so changing it to 1 or 11 might reduce interference from nearby wireless signals. Are you a long distance from your router/gateway?
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It'll disconnect and reconnect even if I'm 2 feet from the router. I just tried changing to channel 10. I'll report back how it goes. I do live in an apartment building with tons of wifi networks, so this is a good suggestion. Thanks!
JasonDelta said:
Not using Smart Actions (I use Settings Profile app from the Play Store instead)
It'll disconnect and reconnect even if I'm 2 feet from the router. I just tried changing to channel 10. I'll report back how it goes. I do live in an apartment building with tons of wifi networks, so this is a good suggestion. Thanks!
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Tried changing the channel, but still disconnects and reconnects often. None of my other devices (laptops, tablets, other smartphones) have any issues keeping connected. I'm still at a loss...
Anyone have any luck fixing this? When my wife's photon Q connects to our home network, no problem. No drops whatsoever. But when she connects to her work WiFi, despite a strong signal, it would drop every few minutes.

[Q] WiFi trouble with CM10?

I just purchased a used HTC One X from the Rogers network and unlocked it. Before rooting it, on the Sense rom WiFi was working great. Very strong signal and it never dropped. Upon flashing CM10, it's not picking up my home network (which I know is working because I'm typing on it right now and the device was connecting to it earlier).
I downloaded WiFi analyzer and it's jumping between networks, some networks pop up and then disappear and then new ones pop up. WiFi is just acting very strange. I did all the appropriate wipes before flashing.
I found a lot of WiFi issues surrounding the international One X but I don't think this is a defect since it was working fine with Sense.
Does anyone else have any experience with this?
Thanks!
Just flashed back to a Sense rom, and low and behold my WiFi is working properly again.
I've had the same experience with CM10 (different nightlies) and AOKP, WiFi is just not reliable. I can connect just fine and the signal strength is the same as with Sense (including CleanROM) but at random times transfer speeds will go down or just drop completely, usually turning WiFi off and on fixes it but it happens again within a couple of hours.
I've tried a couple of tips from those threads like turning off the 5GHhz radio on my router but that doesn't seem to help
fabiancalvo said:
I've had the same experience with CM10 (different nightlies) and AOKP, WiFi is just not reliable. I can connect just fine and the signal strength is the same as with Sense (including CleanROM) but at random times transfer speeds will go down or just drop completely, usually turning WiFi off and on fixes it but it happens again within a couple of hours.
I've tried a couple of tips from those threads like turning off the 5GHhz radio on my router but that doesn't seem to help
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I can't even detect my home network. There's a few of the neighbors networks that pop up on and off but it's not consistent.
I'm literally sitting on my workstation which is connected to my home network and I have full bars. On Sense, I also get full bars and WiFi works as expected.
TotalCrisis said:
I can't even detect my home network. There's a few of the neighbors networks that pop up on and off but it's not consistent.
I'm literally sitting on my workstation which is connected to my home network and I have full bars. On Sense, I also get full bars and WiFi works as expected.
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I've had troubles as well with WIFI on my device running CM10. I've posted numerous time to the CM10 dev forum but nothing comes from it at all. I had very good wifi with the Oct nightlies but now my Wifi is chocked off and doesn't perform as expected. I've tried rebooting my modem, router, switch everything and still the same results. Is there anyway to bring some attention to this or figure out the problem?
Help others and myself figure this problem out, anyone?
beankid said:
I've had troubles as well with WIFI on my device running CM10. I've posted numerous time to the CM10 dev forum but nothing comes from it at all. I had very good wifi with the Oct nightlies but now my Wifi is chocked off and doesn't perform as expected. I've tried rebooting my modem, router, switch everything and still the same results. Is there anyway to bring some attention to this or figure out the problem?
Help others and myself figure this problem out, anyone?
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Are you on the stock kernel for CM10? Try flashing another kernel. It could be a kernel issue that you're having. I had this problem When I flashed PACman, and all i did was just flash Rohan's Build 5 and now my WiFi is working just fine.
Myrder said:
Are you on the stock kernel for CM10? Try flashing another kernel. It could be a kernel issue that you're having. I had this problem When I flashed PACman, and all i did was just flash Rohan's Build 5 and now my WiFi is working just fine.
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I'll download rohans kernel as I've been using the built-in Kernal with that comes with CM10.
**Edit: I've installed RoHan's kernel but still the results are the same. The wifi and network become grayed out from time to time and websites fail to load. I know my home connection isn't quite that fast but there is no reason that the connection all together would drop.
my wifi icon on cm10 just turns grey after a while and doesn't receive any data. So i have to toggle it off and then on again to get it to work again
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The CM10 stable rom is out for the LTE One X. I'm going to give it a go and see if any thing changes.
Check your region code under Wifi -> Menu -> Advanced Settings -> Region Code
Make sure it's under US (or wherever you are), reboot and see if that helps.
stnguyen09 said:
Check your region code under Wifi -> Menu -> Advanced Settings -> Region Code
Make sure it's under US (or wherever you are), reboot and see if that helps.
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I'm located in Canada, and I've tried setting it to US and Canada. No dice.
I tried the a different kernel, CM10 nightly, CM10 stable, AOKP, and none of them are working.
I'm having a similar problem. My wifi won't turn on for some reason. It's related to the phone hardware, not my network. And I'm only seeing this problem when flashing the most recent nightly of CM10.
I'm not sure what else to try. Any ideas?
I've tried rohan's kernel as well as setting the region for the WiFi adapter but eventually it happens again. It's not as bad as some of the other posts I've seen, but it does kill data through WiFi at some point and transfer speeds drop.
Is there anyway to get further data on this? I know that my phone doesn't have the hardware "bug" first reported with a few of the devices. Any logs or error reports we can try and gather?
I managed to connect to my home wifi which I was previously unable to connect to, I had to change my router's wireless signal channel from 13 to 1. I am able to hold a signal fine, however I know many of my neighbors networks are not showing up like they should. Similarly, I am also unable to pick up my university network at school.
As I've said, Wifi works fine on Sense.
Is there any way I can help with error reporting in any way? I don't mind donating a bit of money to the CM team and help them get some logs.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one affected.
I would have to say this is completely a Kernel problem. I am having a similar issue in cm10 on N7000. But it's only happens to the some of the routers.
My house's router is a d-link product. And when you are connected you will having no issue, but once you restarted your phone you are getting trouble to reboot the router once to get your self connected again, in the phone, the wifi will stating "Connecting" like forever.
But I am not getting the same trouble when I am with my company's wifi and the Wifi of my friends lynsys. So its hard to tell the developer about this issue because it's not happens to all people. I hopes this info helps. Reboot the router usually works for me.
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yiwsg said:
I would have to say this is completely a Kernel problem. I am having a similar issue in cm10 on N7000. But it's only happens to the some of the routers.
My house's router is a d-link product. And when you are connected you will having no issue, but once you restarted your phone you are getting trouble to reboot the router once to get your self connected again, in the phone, the wifi will stating "Connecting" like forever.
But I am not getting the same trouble when I am with my company's wifi and the Wifi of my friends lynsys. So its hard to tell the developer about this issue because it's not happens to all people. I hopes this info helps. Reboot the router usually works for me.
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Unfortunately it's not always possible to reboot the router.
Like I said, I can confirm this issue and anything I can do to help I will try to provide.
These issues with CM10 and the new AOSP will almost make me *shutter's to think this thought* move back to sense.....I'm just not sure what to do. Should we link this to the dev thread?
Edit: I've captured a logcat from me turning on wifi, connecting to a website, and loading a second website to see the behavior. PM me if this would be of use.
This is the only reason I'm using a Sense-based ROM (CleanROM), nightly builds for CM10 run great and I have no other issues, but this one is kind of a deal-breaker for me.
beankid said:
These issues with CM10 and the new AOSP will almost make me *shutter's to think this thought* move back to sense.....I'm just not sure what to do. Should we link this to the dev thread?
Edit: I've captured a logcat from me turning on wifi, connecting to a website, and loading a second website to see the behavior. PM me if this would be of use.
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Would it be possible for us to get in contact with a developer?
How would I go about getting a logcat of my own?
fabiancalvo said:
This is the only reason I'm using a Sense-based ROM (CleanROM), nightly builds for CM10 run great and I have no other issues, but this one is kind of a deal-breaker for me.
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I feel you man. I'm sticking with AOSP because I managed to at least get my home network working but it's definitely annoying not being able to get onto my university network.

[Q] Weird wifi problem

I'm experiencing some weird problem over wifi. No matters where I'm connected it always works just for a while (less than 30 minutes). It happens at my place, work, and also at my girlfriend's place. Even at my university (over VPN) it happens and freaks me out.
I believe it could be a wireless driver problem but I'm not sure. I'm currently using MR1 AOKP ROM (last version) but It also happened on ARHD 5.0 and 7.0 ROM versions.
Sometimes my workaround is disconnect and connect again, also turn off and on the Wi-fi, and also using VPN. But it just works for a while (every few minutes).
Can somebody help me with this?
Are someone experiencing something like this?
Regards,
SharpBang said:
I'm experiencing some weird problem over wifi. No matters where I'm connected it always works just for a while (less than 30 minutes). It happens at my place, work, and also at my girlfriend's place. Even at my university (over VPN) it happens and freaks me out.
I believe it could be a wireless driver problem but I'm not sure. I'm currently using MR1 AOKP ROM (last version) but It also happened on ARHD 5.0 and 7.0 ROM versions.
Sometimes my workaround is disconnect and connect again, also turn off and on the Wi-fi, and also using VPN. But it just works for a while (every few minutes).
Can somebody help me with this?
Are someone experiencing something like this?
Regards,
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To fix your tab, put the correct firmware back on it.
shaun298 said:
To fix your tab, put the correct firmware back on it.
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But I don't want to use the stock rom. I prefer AOKPs. There's some way to update or flash just the wireless driver?
SharpBang said:
But I don't want to use the stock rom. I prefer AOKPs. There's some way to update or flash just the wireless driver?
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Did you contact the AOKP Developer or post on that thread with your issue?
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kkretch said:
Did you contact the AOKP Developer or post on that thread with your issue?
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Unfortunately I cannot post on Development Threads, yet! =/

Very slow wifi file transfer speed

Hi, I own an h60-l12 and if I transfer some file from my phone to my nas over wifi I get very slow transfer speed (100kbps). Even when I watch some video from my nas with dlna I get some buffering and this not happens with my galaxy s2 an galaxy s4.
I have read the review of the honor 6 on anandtech and they also noted a poor wifi peformance. Any solution for this problem ? Maybe a custom kernel can help...
Did you find a solution for this? Same issue here..i can't even see most Wi-Fi networks, Wi-Fi reception is too weak. .
nothingman1976 said:
Hi, I own an h60-l12 and if I transfer some file from my phone to my nas over wifi I get very slow transfer speed (100kbps). Even when I watch some video from my nas with dlna I get some buffering and this not happens with my galaxy s2 an galaxy s4.
I have read the review of the honor 6 on anandtech and they also noted a poor wifi peformance. Any solution for this problem ? Maybe a custom kernel can help...
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@nothingman1976 , I've recently upgraded to the latest lolipop 5.10.1 and still have very very weak wifi signals, almost can't use the wifi if not very close to the routers. It happens with 90% of the routers.
Did you find any solution please? Is it only us or is everyone accepting this ridiculous performance? I am considering returning the phone as I no-wifi is a showstopper for me...let me know
thanks in advance!
alex_swe said:
@nothingman1976 , I've recently upgraded to the latest lolipop 5.10.1 and still have very very weak wifi signals, almost can't use the wifi if not very close to the routers. It happens with 90% of the routers.
Did you find any solution please? Is it only us or is everyone accepting this ridiculous performance? I am considering returning the phone as I no-wifi is a showstopper for me...let me know
thanks in advance!
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I don't have problem with wifi signals with the 3 or 4 router I used, but even with lollipop transfer speed from my nas is very slow.
I think is a limitation of the device.
I got the same problem, but my gf and my brother got the same phone with no problem on the same router... used to work just fine, but lately it has slowed down - is it possible that the problem is external? Maybe dust has penetrated my phone? I work with metal, they dont...

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