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[Topic] Beware future crackdowns

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/05/13/does-custom-rom-support-affect-the-buying-process/
....just to keep a eye out
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This has been known for a while .
I don't see this being a problem for very long especially on htc, considering that phones like the holiday will more then likely have international "brothers/sisters", that means there will be dev support worldwide working to break open a phones boot loader. I would assume the only reason it hasn't been done to the atrix, is because honestly the phone is a flop. Blur put a bad taste in everyones mouth and not alot of people want to mess with moto.
If you hit up other htc phone boards here on xda there are literally hundreds of developers working on htc phones. I have said it before where there is a will there is a way.

Atrix is no flop
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Locked bootloaders do much harm to the phones' sales. I like the sense rom but the default stock one comes with a lot of bloat and poor battery performance. I flashed the dilligaf's V2 rom and my phone now flies. When the manufacturers cannot unleash the full potential of the phone, why the hell do they have to lock their bootloaders for?

rjayflo said:
Atrix is no flop
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That's not what the saturated dev section for the atrix tells me.
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rjayflo said:
Atrix is no flop
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I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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danielsaenz said:
I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Lol
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danielsaenz said:
I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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HAHAHA! That's funny sh*t.
Anyways... If the manufacturers and Phone companies would actually leave the phones open, we wouldn't have this issue.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to do...build a recovery image right into the phone. If something screws up, they is a keypress sequence that would force install factory firmware. Bam...No more brick, and start over. I know I have reference the PSP in several other posts, but they did it right. Maybe the phone manufacturers should take a hint.
There is a PSP dev that goes by Dark_Alex... He created the "Despertar del Cementerio." This translates to "Wake the Dead." This was a service battery and memory stick combo that would literally UNBRICK your PSP. I actually have one, and have purposely killed the power during a firmware update to test it. And it works! Anyways, the point is...this is VERY possible with these phones, no one has done it yet tho.

danielsaenz said:
I work at AT&T COR, yes, my particular store sells about 30 Inspires to 1 Atrix. Yes, it's a flop.
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Haha, I LOLed at work when I read this.
ATT seems to have something to do with this. If I hadn't been able to root my inspire I'd probably have returned it. Too much bloat. Bloated on a phone like that males it even worse (also I never liked MOTO)
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Well if its not rootable and cannot access recovery,then I don't bother. I was walking thru fryys when I saw the inspire and knew I had to get it. Trading my sgs vibrant+$150 for a new inspire sounded great to me. But I didn't think if the bootloader was unlocked or not. Luckily,it was. I got Lucky on this one
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Hello one s goobye galaxy note

I'm loving this phone..not missing the big screen of the note..is a phone..and a phone gets old.this phone is so thin..got the s4.. I'll try stock.see how it goes..glad to be in this forums now..
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witeboy07 said:
I'm loving this phone..not missing the big screen of the note..is a phone..and a phone gets old.this phone is so thin..got the s4.. I'll try stock.see how it goes..glad to be in this forums now..
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Good for you man, don't pay attentionto all the negativity over here people are getting buyers remorse because the sgs3 is coming out. It's a great device, I can't wait to see everyone that switches over complain over there.

My buyers remorse just came in the form of the GS2 my wife got yesterday for free... I was hating on it when it first came out, but now that I've used it, and it's been updated to ICS, I think I could be very happy with it. But then I'm addicted to the One S's camera, which, aside from the color over-saturation issue, is awesome and much better than the GS2's. Now I just have to wait for the GS3 to arrive and for ebay to be overrun with GS2's so I can snatch one up for cheap.
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Droidificator said:
My buyers remorse just came in the form of the GS2 my wife got yesterday for free... I was hating on it when it first came out, but now that I've used it, and it's been updated to ICS, I think I could be very happy with it. But then I'm addicted to the One S's camera, which, aside from the color over-saturation issue, is awesome and much better than the GS2's. Now I just have to wait for the GS3 to arrive and for ebay to be overrun with GS2's so I can snatch one up for cheap.
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I plan on getting one myself depending on what comes with it but this is going to be my primary device. The other will be for development but I have a few devices now totaling 8 so I'll chalk it up to the collection.

I only buy phones as they come out.trade the old ones out. But not just any phone.only high end phones.once the note 2 comes out. Then I'll have it again.
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witeboy07 said:
I'm loving this phone..not missing the big screen of the note..is a phone..and a phone gets old.this phone is so thin..got the s4.. I'll try stock.see how it goes..glad to be in this forums now..
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U should be hating the pixalation in the one s

Totòòò said:
U should be hating the pixalation in the one s
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No problem here and had you not read about it you wouldn't have noticed it yourself, it only happens when web pages first load and after that its gone.
My suggestion to you is to get rid if it and get the SGS3 and find that it will be slightly better but still there, people don't realize that the better the screen the more your processor has to work to correct it taking away from processing a little inorder to have 1 second of pixelation instead of 3.

witeboy07 said:
I'm loving this phone..not missing the big screen of the note..is a phone..and a phone gets old.this phone is so thin..got the s4.. I'll try stock.see how it goes..glad to be in this forums now..
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Good to have you bro.
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Well,I'm not a big fan of getting rid of phones or complaining due to every little thing..I use them,test them,of I like it I'll keep it longer.but a phone is a phone.and mistakes will be made.
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What's with everyone switching to the sgs3?

Is it the cool/popular thing to do or do they actually think it's a better phone?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Is it the cool/popular thing to do or do they actually think it's a better phone?
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I'm still here
I can sum it up for you in one sentence.
The Samsung Galaxy S 3 is not locked down, and the HTC One X is.

I know two people who switched and didn't have one that was locked down. One is a developer and one did some theming.
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im not imporant but im leaving too lol

Psshh, s3 is way better!

SkizzMcNizz said:
Is it the cool/popular thing to do or do they actually think it's a better phone?
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what about if its cool ,popular and a better phone?.... millions own it already not a hard thing to find out why its such a success.
many of the people at my work place own one.. and none of them even know whats xda.. so is being unlocked still the key to that success?

If you don't have one then you don't know what your missing. S3 is just good in every department!! Say no more cuzzy!!
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*sigh*

I have an S3 on my account, I got it for a buddy of mine. I've spent a good deal of time playing with it and can't see the appeal at all. It just isn't anywhere near as nice as the HOX. 2GB of RAM, that's it. Everything else about it sucks compared to the HOX. My 1GB is working just fine for me.

_MetalHead_ said:
I have an S3 on my account, I got it for a buddy of mine. I've spent a good deal of time playing with it and can't see the appeal at all. It just isn't anywhere near as nice as the HOX. 2GB of RAM, that's it. Everything else about it sucks compared to the HOX. My 1GB is working just fine for me.
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Bingo u hit the nail on the head. People complain about the lack of removable battery. Ummmmmmm maybe 10% of pple would actually carry a spare. IPhone doesn't remove battery and I'm sure we're all aware of how well that does. And as far as storage goes, yea it wouldn't hurt to atleast have 32gb. But I havent filled 16. So consider me happy.
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gunnyman said:
*sigh*
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Lol!!

kemodread said:
If you don't have one then you don't know what your missing. S3 is just good in every department!! Say no more cuzzy!!
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have one and i use my one x more

I have my HOX, that's all I want and need for a phone for the next year.
S3 is a little too fancy imo, I'm allowed that after checking it out and seeing it first hand,meh.
WR
Rattled off a KingCobra OneX

Had an opportunity to switch out to an S3 but I didn't jump on it. Now I wish I had
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H8rift. XsMagical. Scott. And others are more then enough reasons for me to never leave this phone. And Rohan has done amazing things with AOKP and he is still in highschool if I'm not mistaken. These guys make our phone what it is and we have to work around ATT and HTC security features. The Devs we have are a reason not to leave.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
I know two people who switched and didn't have one that was locked down. One is a developer and one did some theming.
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Then you should ask them. And couple people isn't everyone.
The main reason is: most users if they don't buy the iPhone they'll go for sammy because of the brand. You don't know much about a smartphone but you at least know they make good tv's, computers, refrigerators, you name it. Where else do you see the HTC logo? Many people didn't hear about it. So, obviously pick the Samsung instead.
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moehagene said:
H8rift. XsMagical. Scott. And others are more then enough reasons for me to never leave this phone. And Rohan has done amazing things with AOKP and he is still in highschool if I'm not mistaken. These guys make our phone what it is and we have to work around ATT and HTC security features. The Devs we have are a reason not to leave.
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Sorry to disappoint you but Scott now has a sgs3.
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He also has the one x and is still developing for it.

If I had the money to spare he would have an nexus 7 as well
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hmmm
What is the big deal about which smartphone you use? I would bet that most people on XDA are pretty well clued up about phone tech and so, money permitting, they will make an informed purchase, buying the phone that suits them best.
I own the SGS3 and yeah, I think it is top notch handset, but that doesn't mean I diss other handsets. I like to think I'm more evolved than that (though some of my pals would dispute that :laugh. If someone comes to me for smartphone buying advice, I will try my best to give an informed opinion based on my experience and their tech knowledge and needs...and quite often I'd send them down the iPhone route, not because I think it is a better phone (though Apple, whether you like it or not, make fantastic hardware, just a shame about the company ethos), but because it is probably the best phone for them.
Most on this particular thread will probably own an HTC...again good top noth handsets, but I personally avoid them due to a very bad customer service experience a couple of years ago (threads can be found elsewhere), but that doesn't stop me recommending them to others (though I do also relate my experiences). And many others on XDA will own a whole variety of other smartphones.
The point is, does it matter which phone you own? Yes, some people will spend a fortune on a top end handset just for bragging rights, but there's nothing worse than a 'phone snob'. Most of us on XDA buy what is best for us and are generally happy and if we're not, we switch.
You pays your (hard earned) cash and makes your (well informed) choice. Enjoy what you have, worry not what other think about it and be proud that you are part of XDA and have the knowledge to tinker with and give advice about your techie toys. Just don't get caught up in a 'mine's better than yours' debate.
Happy tinkering folks!

Funny story how I received my HTC One S...

Interesting little story about how I received my One S:
For the past year or so, I was using the T-Mobile LG G2x. Good at first, then I started to really dislike the phone for a variety of reasons. I ended up dropping my phone about a month after receiving it, cracking the top of the screen. The phone was still fully functional.
So last month I'm like, you know what, I'm tired of looking at the crack, let me use my insurance/deductable to get a new one. I file my claim online (130$) and they send me a refurbished G2x with a Samsung battery....
So I call them up; they apologize profusely and I request to just have them send me the new battery. They said they couldn't because "the whole package has to be together." They said they looked in their inventory and they are out of stock on the G2x (presumably since they no longer produce them). They said they would be able to offer me another device, a brand new HTC One S, to try for a week; if I like it I can keep it, if not I can return it and we can discuss other devices.
Safe to say, I love the HTC One S. It is the best phone I have ever used and I plan on using it for a long time.
Funny how things work out eh?

Haha great story

Cool story bro.
If only we had such customer service in the UK! The One S is a very nice phone you'll enjoy it
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Glad asurian worked out for you. They drove me crazy when I had to deal with them. Make sure you flash some cm10 its just pure awesomeness
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No make sure u flash venom is awesome
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I've never rooted and flashed a ROM. Im too scared I'd brick my phone or something similar; I'm not the smartest when it comes to things like that guide or not lol.
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vanbroekjames said:
I've never rooted and flashed a ROM. Im too scared I'd brick my phone or something similar; I'm not the smartest when it comes to things like that guide or not lol.
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It's hard to brick your phone very hard if your not trying to do it someone made a thread how to brick their one s that's how hard it is if ur not trying at the most you'll go into a bootloop Nd easy to get out of its the part of learning it took Me 1week to root my phone and 6 attempts to get my first good Rom on its just a part of learning now it never happens to me cuz I understand it all one s was my first android phone
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My dilemma. To upgrade or not.

So I got a new att HTC one x last week for 9.99 from att. I love it! But now I'm liking the Lumia 920 and the x+ that's coming out this Friday for 200. I still have a week to exchange my phone...what should I do?
I already rooted and have cm10 running. And I'm happy other than battery life. But that's ok I always have a charger near by. I only like the true Google experience and hate the sense ui. But I did like my old wp7 phone. What should I do? Keep my one x or exchange it for the one x+? Our the Lumia 920?
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If you rooted that means your unlocked... good luck returning that.

If you have to ask what you should do, then you shouldn't.
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Nobody can make up your mind
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borguesian said:
If you rooted that means your unlocked... good luck returning that.
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This. When they look at your boot loader and see tampered and unlocked/relocked they won't take it. Good job reading about what rooting and stuff would do to your warranty.
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I'm sure they will take it back if you flash IceColdJelly
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absolutelygrim said:
I'm sure they will take it back if you flash IceColdJelly
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Just scared my dog I lol'd so loud
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Better off selling it at this point, that is if you don't really want it.
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I'm sure they will take it back if you flash IceColdJelly
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+1 for that haha.
I took my first one x back after 4 days to get the grey one. I had it unlocked and rooted and all they did was open the box, check for the charger, phone and USB cord. They do ask if you rooted the phone. I told him I didn't know what that meant, then he processed the return *your results may vary

mgutierrez87 said:
+1 for that haha.
I took my first one x back after 4 days to get the grey one. I had it unlocked and rooted and all they did was open the box, check for the charger, phone and USB cord. They do ask if you rooted the phone. I told him I didn't know what that meant, then he processed the return *your results may vary
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lol I would love to work for a carrier... First thing I would do is load the bootloader up and check, but also boot the phone up just incase. Then if i see a custom rom, tempered/unlocked bootloader I'll just laugh and procede with the return/exchange.

Android to wp8 won't be a sweet transition so i would say that you go and get x+ if at all they happen to take it back !

Myrder said:
This. When they look at your boot loader and see tampered and unlocked/relocked they won't take it. Good job reading about what rooting and stuff would do to your warranty.
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Good job reading the actual question and contributing to the actual conversation! At any point did i ask for any advice about my rooted rom or my unlocked bootloder? I was only asking advice on the physical phones.

borguesian said:
If you rooted that means your unlocked... good luck returning that.
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Completely different things. Rooted does not mean unlocked.

Myrder said:
This. When they look at your boot loader and see tampered and unlocked/relocked they won't take it. Good job reading about what rooting and stuff would do to your warranty.
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Have you ever taken anything back to an att store? If it's in the first 30 days all they look at is to make sure your phone is in pristine condition and they exchange it on the spot. I'm only looking for advice whether i should trade up to the one x+ or not. I guess all everyone cares about on this forum is the at&t "warranty"

http://dl.xda-developers.com/attachdl/d9936bbb851c0c4845cf66981a6f00f5/50a24416/1/4/7/8/5/6/3/what+a+whiny+*****+you+are+my+good+sir+_2b659dfd4c6a248c6c2be1404038280e.jpg

Make your mind up, choose one and live with it.
I don't get these threads, how would we know what is going to work for you.
As well, there will always be something better coming out so YOU really have to know what YOU like an want and stick with it a bit.
WR
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I personally not invest any time or money in a phone OS that has a 1 to 2 % market share, such as in the base of Windows Phone (market data showing WP at just under 4% market share actually include those that are still on the old Windows Mobile platform, and have simply not updated their devices).

bobtukin said:
Completely different things. Rooted does not mean unlocked.
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smh
Unlocked bootloader...

Galaxy Note II

I say wait till windows OS matures (maybe a generation after this one) because they don't have many important apps in their market ecosystem, currently. HTC One X is a good phone and you won't miss much except for the wireless charging plate included in the Lumia 920; uses the same processor too.
I'm deciding between the galaxy s 3 and the HTC one x atm
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