My original galaxy s is getting long in the tooth. I'm due for an upgrade. I was thinking of going with the new S 3 when it comes out, but if its 300$, I think they'd a but much for a phone, and was thinking of getting the nexus.
Do you think that the nexus will still be a decent phone 2 years from now when I can upgrade, our should I get the S3 to keep me until june 2014?
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I'm getting a GNex soon. So it will be even older! Yes, I think the hardware will last
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I'm getting a GNex soon. So it will be even older! Yes, I think the hardware will last
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i think the nexus is better, am waiting for the the next one, dont like capacitve buttons on ics
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Do you think that the nexus will still be a decent phone 2 years from now when I can upgrade, our should I get the S3 to keep me until june 2014?
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Is 2 years a hard or soft limit? (i.e. contract or no contract?) I'm planning on keeping my Nexus for two years, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
The good news is that the nexus is cheap (off google play or expansys) hence good for buying unlocked. I would not buy it from Verizon, for instance; the updating status on the CDMA variants is questionable.
(Also, yeah, S3 hardware buttons sux.)
naaa you guys have gone soft get the s3 or wait to see the nexus 4
i have the gnex won it from a giveaway and personally i think its dog**** if you have the chance get the s3 not the nexus crap or as i said wait for the next nexus romurs are that it will have a s4 quadcore ship clocked at 1.5ghz sounds sexy also its based on a15
I have verizon, and unless the rules have changed, you can upgrade after 18 months, and get $50 off at a 24 months. Why pay so much for a phone, when your not sure for an upgrade? So I would have to wait 18 months minimum.
Have there been any releases of what the going price would be for the S3 in the US? I ready font want to spend $300 for a phone.
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id prefer the s3, because of its outstanding benchmark, and some new features in smartphones but the design nexus is better,
eppo12- said:
I have verizon, and unless the rules have changed, you can upgrade after 18 months, and get $50 off at a 24 months. Why pay so much for a phone, when your not sure for an upgrade? So I would have to wait 18 months minimum.
Have there been any releases of what the going price would be for the S3 in the US? I ready font want to spend $300 for a phone.
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I would recommend against the verizon version of the nexus, for the reasons above. Though of course, my opinion is not the end-all.
Buying a phone outright gets you more flexibility and, if you go with prepaid, lower costs overall. As you said, you have to wait > 18 months to get a new one under your plan [and you'd have lost out, with your increased rates, if you don't]. I can get my next phone anytime [and am subject to low rates all the time]. My nexus, for example, is definitely good for this year, but I don't want to count on my prophetical powers for anything longer. If it gets broken, or just plain outclassed, I want to be able to grab the newest thing on the market right away.
(Note: Prepaid vs contract is a much more complicated issue than I might have made it sound above; you'd have to shop and probably have to use something besides Verizon, for one thing.)
Another recent thing to note: Verizon is removing unlimited upgrades (you'd be forced onto a tiered plan), though you can keep your old plan if you get your new phone on your own.
I'm not sure what the exact pricing is, but for arguments sake, lets say that the nexus is 200 with contact, and 400 without, pushy the going rate 400? How would you get out any cheaper? And I'm sure no where near $200.
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eppo12- said:
I'm not sure what the exact pricing is, but for arguments sake, lets say that the nexus is 200 with contact, and 400 without, pushy the going rate 400? How would you get out any cheaper? And I'm sure no where near $200.
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The price differential over 24 months adds up.
For example, T-mobile has a $30 100 minute 5 gig prepaid, and Straight Talk has a $45 unlimited prepaid; there are others to shop around for, but those are the most commonly cited. Assuming you even get the cheapest Verizon plan, $40 (450 minutes talk) + $10 (1000 smses) + $30 (2 gb data) = $80 (per month)
Verizon's $80/month is already $35/month more than ST. That means you save $840 over 24 months by going even the more expensive prepaid. (Compared to this, the puny $200 subsidy is nothing.)
For the t-mobile plan, the differential is a whopping $50, and you save, holy hell, $1200 over 24 months.
In other words, the subsidy is just a psychological scam make you think you've got a discount, when really, the higher prices per month make all the difference.
thebobp said it quite well.
But I'm hoping to sign a new contract and keep my grandfathered unlimited plan. I'd liked to upgrade to the S3 with unlimited grandfathered LTE, but that's hoping that the S3 is available before Verizon starts pushing the shared data plans (at which point I can't upgrade to LTE and keep unlimited data).
If the S3 isn't coming out before then, then I'm thinking I should just get a Gnex so I can start enjoying unlimited LTE data.
Wow, I've never thought about it that way. I always thought those other providers offered a lower level of service? I know t mobile has crap service around here, so you can't be using all of verizons network.
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I always thought those other providers offered a lower level of service?
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"Lower level of service" is just company propaganda. The only relevant question is which one offers good enough service for you, for the cheapest price. And unfortunately, there's no easy way to answer that except to try them out, preferably cheapest to most expensive. Even reviews aren't all that relevant, simply because service can vary so wildly depending on location. Thankfully, prepaid is a natural platform for "just trying a service out", but it does require a compatible phone.
I don't know what you mean by "tmobile using all of verizon's network"; they're completely distinct. Straight talk (and many others) are carried over AT&T and t-mobile's networks, though.
Thanks a lot for all your replies.
As far as the network goes, I thought tmobile used verizons network, because when 4g came out, they were the only other ones saying they used 4g lte. So I just assumed they used verizons network.
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I'm in a similar situation, right now I'm waiting to see what the S3 looks like in the US. If its not to my liking I'll probably get the Nexus, and a + for the Nexus is it will be getting Android 5.0 aka Jellybean. I would also buy it from the Google Play Store so it doesnt have any bloatware, however that is $299.
If you've made it this long with the Galaxy S, I say wait for the next Nexus. Especially with the rumors of several different manufacturers being able to build their own Nexus device.
I would take the samsung nexus. The S3 doesn't offer enough power difference in my opinion to spend the extra money on. Most of its software features aren't that good imho. And if they are you can find a similar app on the market for it.
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I would take the samsung nexus. The S3 doesn't offer enough power difference in my opinion to spend the extra money on. Most of its software features aren't that good imho. And if they are you can find a similar app on the market for it.
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Have you heard anything about the S3 US version being dual core? because i would think that the Nexus being Dual Core, vs the S3 being quad core would be a big difference.
I'm going to have to look around to see when the next nexus is getting released.
my S1 annoys me a bit, but maybe i'm just getting the itch to get a new phone. every once and a while it stops responding to touch, if you hit the power button, and then unlock the phone again, its been coming back. also, playback skips when i first start playing something in dog catcher, and some games... yeah, I know.. i guess its more of an itch than anything else, but at least this way, i can make an informed decision if/when my phone completely dies.
i am running gingerbread rom, i recently reinstalled it from scratch, and then reinstalled my apps, but its still the same.
I guess i'll try and hold onto this phone as long as i can. I do like the service with verizon, and get a hefty discount from my job, so i'm a bit weary to switch carriers.
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Have you heard anything about the S3 US version being dual core? because i would think that the Nexus being Dual Core, vs the S3 being quad core would be a big difference.
I'm going to have to look around to see when the next nexus is getting released.
my S1 annoys me a bit, but maybe i'm just getting the itch to get a new phone. every once and a while it stops responding to touch, if you hit the power button, and then unlock the phone again, its been coming back. also, playback skips when i first start playing something in dog catcher, and some games... yeah, I know.. i guess its more of an itch than anything else, but at least this way, i can make an informed decision if/when my phone completely dies.
i am running gingerbread rom, i recently reinstalled it from scratch, and then reinstalled my apps, but its still the same.
I guess i'll try and hold onto this phone as long as i can. I do like the service with verizon, and get a hefty discount from my job, so i'm a bit weary to switch carriers.
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Have you seen the difference between the Quad core One X and the dual core version? No? Neither has anyone else.
eppo12- said:
Have you heard anything about the S3 US version being dual core? because i would think that the Nexus being Dual Core, vs the S3 being quad core would be a big difference.
I'm going to have to look around to see when the next nexus is getting released.
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S3 LTE will most definitely be a dual core, because no quad core supports LTE.
Rumors about Nexus launch date say thanksgiving.
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As far as the network goes, I thought tmobile used verizons network, because when 4g came out, they were the only other ones saying they used 4g lte. So I just assumed they used verizons network.
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There is no 4g; it hasn't come out yet. The 4g standard requires 1Gbps data, while LTE is capable of max 300Mbps data and, in practice, can get as low as a single-digit Mbps. See this article for more information. Basically, the marketing departments here in the US realized they could get away with calling crap 4G, and that's what we have now.
The much more relevant question is how fast a particular service is in your area (because it can vary so wildly), and that can't be answered by anything except trial and error.
Help me out My daughter is set for upgrade. she wanted a Nexus S. Sprint says it is no longer available. i have talked to telesales, stores, and retention. Does anyone know how to get one. from sprint using an upgrade has anyone recently gotten one? There are no other phones avail on sprint that she likes. The newer high end phones... in her words " are too big to put in a pocket of any pants I own" I had to laugh but very true
any help or input in appreciated
edit I am still on sprints everything plus family plan which does limit my options. I can only get an upgrade direct from sprint, I cannot use third party stores, otherwise I lose my plan.
Sadly Sales for the NS4G thru Sprint are discontinued . Your only option it seems is to get one secondhand. The GSM ones are much rarer to find for cheap. I've seen the 4G ones being sold for 30 bucks in great condition on Craigslist over here in NY.
What about best buy or amazon wireless
I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today..........
thanks guys.... tried all that... I was actually had one in my hand at a third party retailer but they could not add it to my account because of the everything plus plan. and no phone is worth losing that
topic still open how to get one directly from sprint
You could always purchase one off of Craigslist. Not sure about your location, I see tons of Sprint NS posted here in MN. Have the seller meet you at the Sprint store, or if you are trusting that its ESN is clear... bring it into the store and have them set it up. I've seen people do this quite often.
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You could always purchase one off of Craigslist. Not sure about your location, I see tons of Sprint NS posted here in MN. Have the seller meet you at the Sprint store, or if you are trusting that its ESN is clear... bring it into the store and have them set it up. I've seen people do this quite often.
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Took the words right out of my mouth
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I can get them unlocked from our local carrier ...
... but I'm in Canada. You could try them for a direct outright purchase. All their phones are unlocked. dmts.biz/cellular-phones/
They only have 20 or so left though. Debating setting my wife up with one. They're going on promo next week for $100 with a one year commitment, $0 on 2 yr. Not sure if they're dropping the outright purchase price though. Currently showing as $525 (Canadian ... about $520US LOL).
(Oddly, I was just in there talking to them two hours ago about it.)
http://www.cowboom.com/, owned by Best Buy. They have them used for $99, all rated on a condition scale and most with pictures.
Their condition scale is actually pretty generous. Mine was labeled a "5" (out of 10, I think) and labeled as light scuffs and scratches. I'll be damned if I could find anything beyond a couple of nicks on the battery cover tab.
no go in Arizona on a used one. they seem to be real popular on Cricket and are still getting almost 200 used on craigslist. but thanks
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no go in Arizona on a used one. they seem to be real popular on Cricket and are still getting almost 200 used on craigslist. but thanks
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That sucks. They go anywhere from $130-$150 here... There are tons of them.
Thanks everyone thread closed
Pocket posted sorry....
Lets say I buy the 32 GB Nexus 5 from the play store (because Sprint is only offering the 16GB version). Somewhere down the line I lose the phone, or it quits working so I put in a claim for a replacement with Sprint's insurance. Are they going to send me a new/refurbished 32GB model or am I going to get the 16GB version? My guess is they send me the 16GB version thereby defeating the purpose of buying the 32GB Nexus from the play store. Anybody have experience with this issue?
Sounds like you should ask Sprint
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Sounds like you should ask Sprint
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HAHA...yes.....good idea. Should have mentioned I already had asked them. In fact I asked 3 different Sprint reps and one on Chat. They all referred me to Asurion (their insurance provider) After 5 minutes of playing "lets push a button" the insurance rep told me they would replace it with a 32GB version IF THEY HAD IT IN STOCK. And if not in stock, which she advised would be the likely scenario, then they would offer me the 16Gb version. That is just not acceptable so it looks like no Nexus 5 for me. Incidentally, the Sprint reps all told me they have NO information on a Sprint 32GB version. Hard to believe since that version seems to be the most popular on Google Play store
I have this same concern. It's probably best to drop the Sprint insurance and go with a 3rd party (SquareTrade, etc.). They won't cover theft/loss, but in just about any other way, they are superior. Currently, I have Sprint insruance on my Note 2, but I think I will drop it in favor of a thrid party solution. After all, I believe the decutible on Asurion is $200? So it's barely worth covering with them anyways. After a year, you would have enough to buy the phone again anyways (($10/month x 12 month) + $200 ded = $320).
Squaretrade looks to be $125 for 2 years which would be $5.20ish a month for 24 months.
I may go this route....
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I have this same concern. It's probably best to drop the Sprint insurance and go with a 3rd party (SquareTrade, etc.). They won't cover theft/loss, but in just about any other way, they are superior. Currently, I have Sprint insruance on my Note 2, but I think I will drop it in favor of a thrid party solution. After all, I believe the decutible on Asurion is $200? So it's barely worth covering with them anyways. After a year, you would have enough to buy the phone again anyways (($10/month x 12 month) + $200 ded = $320).
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Thanks....that's a worthwhile option I wasn't aware of
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Squaretrade looks to be $125 for 2 years which would be $5.20ish a month for 24 months.
I may go this route....
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Look around for the best deal. SquareTrade often has coupons for 30% off. I'm blanking on some of the other companies available.
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Me: I have one more question
Me: How would TEP (Total Equipment Protection) work for this device as I purchased it from Google Play instead of Sprint?
Steven B.: You can add TEP once the device will be activated, just like other regular devices.
Me: but, as this device is a 32gb device, if it were to malfunction, would it be replaced with a 32gb device, or would it be replaced with a 16gb device?
Steven B.: With the same device.
Me: even though Sprint does not sell that device?
Steven B.: You would have to wait until it's in stock.
Me: So Sprint does intend to sell the 32gb Nexus 5 sometime soon?
Steven B.: In the near future yes.
Me: Thank you very much for answering my questions! I hope you have a great night.
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So this was totally accidental. But I essentially bought my Note 5 for $300 after trading in two other devices for it. I ordered the note 5 on the edge plan so I could take advantage of the $200 device trade-in. As soon as I got the phone, I paid off the remaining balance so that my monthly fee essentially stayed the same (actually, it somehow got cheaper). In essence, I bought the phone outright for $496 plus tax.
But then about a week or so later, I received a text message saying "Congratulations on buying a new Note 5, you are now eligible for a $200 trade-in" along with a promo code to enter at their website. Mind you, I was skeptical at first since I already traded a phone in, but I went ahead and gave it a shot anyway figuring I've got nothing to lose. I went to the website and put in the promo code (the value of my trade-in device jumped from $1 to $200 lol), received the packaging material in the mail, sent in a pos phone, and received a $200 verizon gift card. This brought my total out of pocket with tax down to $330 for a brand new Note 5. My next step is convincing them to unlock it as I will be doing a lot of international travelling and if they think I'm going to be paying Verizon international roaming fees they are out of their damn minds.
So while I hate Verizon for locking bootloaders, disabling features, and blocking Samsung pay, along with all of their other gimmicks, I am at least a little internally satisfied that I DID get my money's worth on this particular phone. Thank you Verizon. You still suck!
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I did something similar. About to send in my m7 and s3
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Verizon phones are globally unlocked now I believe. Has been that way for a while now.
This has been true for the past few releases since the note 2. However nobody I have talked to at Verizon has been able to give me a straight answer on whether or not the note 5 is factory unlocked which raises my suspicion. In the past, that information was readily available and was actually used as a selling point.
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I got the same text. I wish I had a junk smartphone laying around. I thought about buying a phone on ebay, but didn't want to take the risk.
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This has been true for the past few releases since the note 2. However nobody I have talked to at Verizon has been able to give me a straight answer on whether or not the note 5 is factory unlocked which raises my suspicion. In the past, that information was readily available and was actually used as a selling point.
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It is def unlocked. Verizon was forced to unlock all LTE phones. It was part of an agreement for frequencies or bands.
Due to Lte 700 Mhz C block rules, the Verizon LTE phones have been sim/carrier unlocked.
That doesn't mean it supports all LTE bands though. You have to check the bands the phones support if you want to use them on another carrier.
I found this cool website willmyphonework.net. to check for frequencies in various countries.
Verizon Note 5 is sim unlocked but i believe they have Knox locked. Meaning you cant root the device and install custom ROMs.
This worked for me!
Thanks!
If you are on one of old's Verizon plan, I am on 1400 family plan, then I upgraded my wife's and my sister in law's phones to note 5 through Costco in California and they signed 2 years contract and got the phones subsidized at $277 including tax with free external charger. I didn't lose my unlimited data either when they upgraded.
I have edge plus that I bought at full price from best buy
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