I attempted to install clockworkrecoverymod on my HTC Desire S but I hadn't realized that it was s-on. I tried first though ROM Manager which didn't work, it just kept loading htc's recovery. Then I tried from another source, this time when I tried to access recovery it just came up saying htc and froze there. I then tried a factory reset it showed htc and froze again. Now every time I try to access recovery it just shows htc and freezes.
Can someone help?
Flash the recovery in fastboot:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
teadrinker said:
Flash the recovery in fastboot:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
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Sorry. I think I gave you the impression that I know what I'm doing I'm a noob so I have no idea where to start with that. Where do I find the recovery.img, is it a download, is it somewhere on the phone. Also, how do I then flash the recovery. Please, it would really help. I don't want to risk winging it only to have my phone explode on me (knowing my luck).
You could've used FlashIMG app to flash things like recovery or a kernel right away from the device itself, no need to use command prompt
Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
You could've used FlashIMG app to flash things like recovery or a kernel right away from the device itself, no need to use command prompt
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Not quite sure how this helps. I used ROM Manager to flash my phone from the device without using commands.
Q1uasa said:
Not quite sure how this helps. I used ROM Manager to flash my phone from the device without using commands.
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That doesn't work when you're s-on.
teadrinker said:
That doesn't work when you're s-on.
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Yes. I know that now. That's why I'm here I'm looking for some way to recover... the recovery... or install the recovery again or completely reinstall everything on the phone, ANYTHING! The recovery is gone completely and now whenever I turn off my phone the next turn on is a complete restart of the phone. I've tried reinstalling the ICS ruu that I used before but it keeps on failing part way through.
Are you htcdev unlocked?
Re: Crashes for reason I don't understand
Well mate....
I presume your device has been htc dev unlocked and still s- on,
if the bootloader was still locked, you wouldnt have problems with flashing ruu...
so lets start:
1.download the rom of your choice
-copy boot.img from its contents
and place it in a folder with ADB
-place the rom.zip on your phone`s sd card-
1a.download recovery for saga ( clockworkmod or 4ext )
-make sure it has the .img extention
-rename it to: recovery.img , and place it in a folder with ADB
2.start adb on pc and navigate to the location where it is stored,
let say you`ve put it on a drive c, in folder: android-tools,
issue command:
cd c:\android-tools [enter]- ( the folder name after back slash, must correspond with one on your pc- of course)
3.reboot your phone to bootloader and connect to pc,
issue command:
fastboot devices [enter]
if the phone is been recognised, you`ll see something like:
list od devices attached
scf00421.... device
4.issue command:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
and see what`s the output in terminal-
5.in bootloader menu there is an option: reboot bootloader...
- use it- reboot bootloader, and from among its option choose
< recovery > ....
In recovery:
- install zip from sd card
-choose zip from sd card
find the rom you`ve downloaded and placed on sd card before,
confirm by clicking < yes > and let it finish flashing
6.in command prompt, issue command:
adb reboot bootloader [enter]
7.issue command:
fastboot devices
and when your device`s ID is listed under < list of device attached >
8.issue command:
fastboot flash boot boot.img [enter]
and when it finishes, issue command:
fastboot reboot
and if all above has been fulfilled to the letter,
after htc boot screen you should see bootanimation of your new rom,
and all else that ussualy follows
for the first time i`d recommend a sense rom,
since flashing non sense one, requires to know whether your device
goes equipped with sony or hitachi panel- no tragedy in either case,
but knowing that saves you from another bootloop.....
Thanks asgardr I'm yet to try this out but it looks promising. The reason this all started was because I wanted to install a certain rom found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704
There are two versions of it. Not sure if they both have sense or not but one of them is called 'Sense/Data++ version' so I'm assuming that one will definatly have sense on it. I'll try to install it. I'll let you know how it goes.
Q1uasa said:
Thanks asgardr I'm yet to try this out but it looks promising. The reason this all started was because I wanted to install a certain rom found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070704
There are two versions of it. Not sure if they both have sense or not but one of them is called 'Sense/Data++ version' so I'm assuming that one will definatly have sense on it. I'll try to install it.
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This is a rom for htc desire,,, not for htc desire s,,
difference in name is small but you should never flash anything else than roms for desire s!
If you try flasing rom from different device, you're running very high risk of bricking your device...
If you tried to flash that rom already and the phone is still able to boot to bootloader:
1.download any sense rom for DESIRE S- SAGA
copy boot img from that rom to a folder where adb is
2.put it on your phone's sd card
3.in recovery:
-wipe cache
-data
-system
( clockworkmod recovery)
-wipe all except sd card
( 4ext recovery )
4.flash rom you've placed on an sd card ( in recovery )
5. From recovery : reboot to bootloader and
flash boot img via fastboot....
Then you can reboot your device...
ummm. I followed your instuctions using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859700 and now when the phone starts it stays blank
Never mind. I was just being inept again. The problem was that with my version of Hboot I would need to edit the updater-script of the ROM for it to install properly.
Now my only issue is that when the phone boots I get the htc ring menu.... whatever it's called and when I pull the ring up it says com.htc.bg has stopped working and then I get a screen that just says htc
Never mind. I was just being inept again. The problem was that with my version of Hboot I would need to edit the updater-script of the ROM for it to install properly.
Now my only issue is that when the phone boots I get the htc ring menu.... whatever it's called and when I pull the ring up it says com.htc.bg has stopped working and then I get a screen that just says htc
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You mean: htc lockscreen?
I haven't got any expearience with that particular rom,
but why don't you try some other one, like:
- viper saga
- desireXS
- SVHD
- iceDS
These are sense based roms,
there is a kernel thread from a briliant dev,
where you can find alternative boot images
for sense based roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845039
Always remember of a < full wipe > before rom flashing,
and flashing boot img after,
even if flashing kernel provided by amidabuddha ( from the link provided above )
Most of the errors and bootloops is happening, due to the wrong or incorrectly flashed boot img...
( except those native to the rom itself- bugs )
asgardr said:
You mean: htc lockscreen?
I haven't got any expearience with that particular rom,
but why don't you try some other one, like:
- viper saga
- desireXS
- SVHD
- iceDS
These are sense based roms,
there is a kernel thread from a briliant dev,
where you can find alternative boot images
for sense based roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845039
Always remember of a < full wipe > before rom flashing,
and flashing boot img after,
even if flashing kernel provided by amidabuddha ( from the link provided above )
Most of the errors and bootloops is happening, due to the wrong or incorrectly flashed boot img...
( except those native to the rom itself- bugs )
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Thank you for all the infomation you're giving me I'm going to try the viper saga ROM. Are the alternative boot images necessary? I don't really understand much about kernels.
Q1uasa said:
Thank you for all the infomation you're giving me I'm going to try the viper saga ROM. Are the alternative boot images necessary? I don't really understand much about kernels.
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Wiper saga rom is been driven by BtB kernel from amidabuddha,
this is basic, almost stock but cleaned and little improved branch,
meaning no overclocking or undervolting of cpu is possible with it...
If yoi'd wish to oc or uw your central processing unit ( processor ),
tweaked or patched kernels must be aplied instead
Sorted!!!
asgardr said:
Wiper saga rom is been driven by BtB kernel from amidabuddha,
this is basic, almost stock but cleaned and little improved branch,
meaning no overclocking or undervolting of cpu is possible with it...
If yoi'd wish to oc or uw your central processing unit ( processor ),
tweaked or patched kernels must be aplied instead
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My phone.... it works again! Thank you so much asgardr! Thanks to you I have a fully functional phone again :highfive:
I didn't bother with the alternative kernel. I don't really have an interest in overclocking or undervolting but thank you for the extra info.
It is not so scary after all
Would you please, mark this thread as: ( solved )
asgardr said:
It is not so scary after all
Would you please, mark this thread as: ( solved )
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Sure thing Thanks again.
Related
Hi,
I'm running an HTC Desire S S-ON but unlocked via the htc dev site.
HBOOT 2.00.0002
Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4
Previously I was on the stock Android 2.3.5 and HTC Sense 3.0 from an OTA update.
I used Clockwork to do a Nadroid backup and tried to install Cyanogen 7.1 this got stuck in a boot loop and I then found I couldn't restore to the backup or install any other ROMs.
I have been searching everywhere and I can't find a method to de-brick my phone that works, can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers,
Matt H
While your phone is s-on you can only flash stock roms.
You need to s-off your phone first
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App
extract boot.img from the CyanogenMOD7.zip and flash it with fastboot:
Code:
fastboot flash boot {path to the file on your PC}\boot.img
You will need fastboot configured - link in my signature.
eyahl said:
While your phone is s-on you can only flash stock roms.
You need to s-off your phone first
Sent from my Desire S using XDA App
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not true, you only need to flash the boot image separetly
amidabuddha said:
extract boot.img from the CyanogenMOD7.zip and flash it with fastboot:
Code:
fastboot flash boot {path to the file on your PC}\boot.img
You will need fastboot configured - link in my signature.
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Ahhh that makes more sense now, I had only half understood a thread I had read earlier,
Thanks
loading the boot.img via fastboot comes back as a success on the command line, however it still hangs at the 3 mobile loading screen.
Reflash the ROM and the boot.img from the ZIP after doing a full wipe.
Just to be clear, I have wiped the phone using clockwork, and reflashed using fastboot from the commandline, this is still hanging on 3 mobile splash screen, I am starting to think I am cursed...
Cheers,
Matt H
Try 4ext
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
given that I can't actually boot my phone to install 4ext from the market, is there any way of flashing it in place of clockwork? Or is there any way of just restoring it to the state before I flshed clockwork to it?
shrome99 said:
Reflash the ROM and the boot.img from the ZIP after doing a full wipe.
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This should do it.
matthearn said:
Just to be clear, I have wiped the phone using clockwork, and reflashed using fastboot from the commandline, this is still hanging on 3 mobile splash screen, I am starting to think I am cursed...
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Take a deep breath You phone is fine just need the proper components
Make a full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik cache, boot) from the recovery
Install the custom ROM again (important)
Reboot to bootloader from the recovery power menu
Use the fastboot command to flash the boot.img
Reboot the phone normally and wait (it can take up to 10 minutes to boot)
Report here
amidabuddha said:
Take a deep breath
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MOST IMPORTANT STEP. Be calm
Thanks everyone for your help my Desire S is now Cyanogenmodded .
I think next week I may write a step by step for doing this on linux, once I have got over the trauma...
First posting with a problem but done a lot of reading and can't find my answer...
I have a Desire S which had the initial telco branding splash screens for boot and animation as well as all the apps they install.
Following the excellent guide here by nodeffect for beginners I used Revolutionary to S-Off and install CWM then flashed su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip to get root.
I then followed this thread by vampire36 about flashing a rom the perfect way but did not have the option to format boot in cwm so carried out all the other steps and I have Reaper 2.0 flashed but still with the initial boot splash screen of the telco when the phone initially powers on.
Two questions...
1. Why would I not get the option in cwm to format boot ?
2. Is this why the initial splash screen still remains and do i need to use adb to flash a new boot.zip through fastboot ?
RevheadKev said:
Two questions...
1. Why would I not get the option in cwm to format boot ?
2. Is this why the initial splash screen still remains and do i need to use adb to flash a new boot.zip through fastboot ?
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1. There is no need to format boot on devices with flash memory (honestly I do not know exactly why, you can make a research if you like).
2. The splash screen is just a picture but is stored on another partition, so is not affected by installing other components. If you want to change it you can use Android Flasher and any image you like.
Hi all. Ive finally managed to get a grasp of the principles of adb, shell, fastboot, etc.
Anyways - I have a Desire S which I unlocked via htcdev, and installer the lastest clockworkmod recovery. ive been trying to get S-off and nothing has worked for me. Ive spent the last 2 days downloading so much stuff my desktop if full of it - and im nowhere.
I had ICS for htc running before without any mods and wanted to try the root / mod thing.
My phone hangs at the htc boot screen. I have tried installing 3 different cw10.1 zip files all from xda to no avail, they always give me an error. Ive tried running the RUU exe and it ends in an error. I then fund the rom.zip file in the directory and renamed it to PB99IMG.zip, dropped it in root of sdcard and nothing.. it just skips past the lines and goes to fastboot. Should it not be named PB88IMG.zip? I recall seeing those numbers flit past.
Is it possible to force the bastard phone to take cwm this way by renaming the zip? (Ive read no - its only for official RUU's).
anyway - the oneclick didnt work, nor did ver1, ive tried various shell methods (which i cant even recall). Im currentlyunlocked, S-ON, firmware 20.2.2000 or something (the one that revolutionary WONT work on).
Ive been chasing my tail and just gave up.
please give me some info as to what i could have dobe wrong. I installed clockwork via lpay store. I factory reset, cleared caches and batt logs and was able to go into the OS a few times - but obviously one of the methods i tried did something.
thanks again great forum, but honestly, what a complete mess!! there are so many approaches with so many pitfalls its crazy.. esp for a noob when the noob apps dont work either!
HTC Desire S GSM
unclocked via htcdev
S-ON
hboot: 2.02.0002
Radio: 3831.19.00.110
Latest CMWR
Gets stuck @ white screen
Tried:
factory reset / wipe / dalvik / batt stats
reboot to recovery: install SU, gapps, cwm rom 10.1 (also tried 7.1). reboot / then fastboot boot boot.img (from the CWM zip). nothing.
Ive tried re installing the EU RUU - also nothing. Renaming the rom.zip to PG**IMG.zip, it reading the file then stops 2 fastboot screen. nothing. nada.zip.
fstarockr said:
Hi all. Ive finally managed to get a grasp of the principles of adb, shell, fastboot, etc.
Anyways - I have a Desire S which I unlocked via htcdev, and installer the lastest clockworkmod recovery. ive been trying to get S-off and nothing has worked for me. Ive spent the last 2 days downloading so much stuff my desktop if full of it - and im nowhere.
I had ICS for htc running before without any mods and wanted to try the root / mod thing.
My phone hangs at the htc boot screen. I have tried installing 3 different cw10.1 zip files all from xda to no avail, they always give me an error. Ive tried running the RUU exe and it ends in an error. I then fund the rom.zip file in the directory and renamed it to PB99IMG.zip, dropped it in root of sdcard and nothing.. it just skips past the lines and goes to fastboot. Should it not be named PB88IMG.zip? I recall seeing those numbers flit past.
Is it possible to force the bastard phone to take cwm this way by renaming the zip? (Ive read no - its only for official RUU's).
anyway - the oneclick didnt work, nor did ver1, ive tried various shell methods (which i cant even recall). Im currentlyunlocked, S-ON, firmware 20.2.2000 or something (the one that revolutionary WONT work on).
Ive been chasing my tail and just gave up.
please give me some info as to what i could have dobe wrong. I installed clockwork via lpay store. I factory reset, cleared caches and batt logs and was able to go into the OS a few times - but obviously one of the methods i tried did something.
thanks again great forum, but honestly, what a complete mess!! there are so many approaches with so many pitfalls its crazy.. esp for a noob when the noob apps dont work either!
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There are so many people, blindly walking in to troubles just because they do not read,
and you seem to be one of them....
When you unlock your device via htc dev, your device stays s- on,
it means- whatever you flash, you have to flash boot.img from that thing ( meaning rom naturaly )
via fastboot
through command:
fastboot flash boot boot .img
Without it your phone will never boot...
Recovery you flash via fastboot as well via command:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Then , when you have it, reboot your device to recovery
and flash superuser and its binaries
And that woud be all you have to do in order to have rooted and booting device...
Edit: Now i've seen your other post- it is a 100% the one im reading now,
You should know it is enough to post your question once,
people'll find it...
Because of impatience you're in trouble already with your phone
tx -
tx for that info - ill give it a go.
I reposted because some1 there said i was in the wrong section and supplied a link for the correct section (here) - so yes, i reposted to get the correct replies.
not to digress:
but as for not reading - i can assure u ive read alot. Been a freelance developer for 15 years. That doesnt mean that rooting often requires a handful of little hacks when things dont go smooth. Just like alot of programming tuts, the rooting ones have a similar "assumption" that u know whats half potting, and what will cause what and what wont. All the articles i read i made sure were either 2012 or 2013 - there is ALOT of old non applicable info around, I stick to xda of course as i really trust this place. as usual, not all is 1-2-3. thats all.
asgardr said:
There are so many people, blindly walking in to troubles just because they do not read,
and you seem to be one of them....
When you unlock your device via htc dev, your device stays s- on,
it means- whatever you flash, you have to flash boot.img from that thing ( meaning rom naturaly )
via fastboot
through command:
fastboot flash boot boot .img
Without it your phone will never boot...
Recovery you flash via fastboot as well via command:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Then , when you have it, reboot your device to recovery
and flash superuser and its binaries
And that woud be all you have to do in order to have rooted and booting device...
Edit: Now i've seen your other post- it is a 100% the one im reading now,
You should know it is enough to post your question once,
people'll find it...
Because of impatience you're in trouble already with your phone
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Well thats true, obvious things for me do not have to be obvious for
somebody else- one sometimes forgets that- begging your pardon
If not for XDA, i'd've known not much at all...
I've given the shortest and simpliest way that never failed me before
so, i truly hope, for you it'll turn out to be usefull as well- with no further accidents...
As for comming back to stock: you must relock device's bootloader before flashing,
otherwise procedure will always be throwing an error....
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As for coming back to stock: you must relock device's bootloader before flashing,
otherwise procedure will always be throwing an error....
Im trying to get a picture of the inter relations ~ pls bear with me:i dont want to be trying to sys c: when i dont have a partition kind of scenario - absolute clarity is needed - my apologies as i try wrap this up..
#bootloader:
do the same rules apply for ALL installations? Does bootloader have to be locked FOR anything to boot or just the stock OS's? does it have to be in a sequence - ie do i have to do this each time i try install an OS or can i leave it? Will this break the booting if its wrong? Can i use a bootloader from company X and a rom from company Y? What files do i use/extract/where do i get them, and are they device specific - what r the base requirements?
#S-on/Off
I have been unable to get mine to off -
#unlocked bootloader
its been indicated that this will throw off a stock OS installer, will cyanogenmod work with this off?
#RUU / Mods
I assume these are the OS's - do i have to do this last/middle? and steps after? to duplicate: are they linked to the bootloader?
#recovery
this is just an upgrade to the stock junk and has no effect on booting, etc. can be left in place if working. can install via play or fastboot via zip. (and other methods im sure).
Im trying to figure out what i can do once, and what i have to keep fiddling with, so i can hone in and get up and running.
If my questions appear ignorant - then ignore me. Im trying to paint a very clear picture of the tech relations between the various aspects and how they relate / interact - which is crucial to moving on from noobness - so pls bear with me and drop the remarks / attitude. Ive read my a$$ off and am still unclear for what many assume is basic understanding.
Im sure there are ALOT of sane unlazy logic ppl out there stuck in the same boat - and sometimes ppl who are VERY knowledgeable get a bit semi-aggressive putting ppl off from asking questions.
So do i relock the bootloader before i install any mod - or is this for stock only? And do install stock first, or can i relock and follow the steps above to root / get cwm 10.7 or 7.1 running?
lastly - where do i get the boot.img from? is that device specific or can i extract it / dl it? reason im asking is because it appears this file is device specific - and needs to be backed up from stock device before rooting/unlocking etc?
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fstarockr said:
Hi all. Ive finally managed to get a grasp of the principles of adb, shell, fastboot, etc.
Anyways - I have a Desire S which I unlocked via htcdev, and installer the lastest clockworkmod recovery. ive been trying to get S-off and nothing has worked for me. Ive spent the last 2 days downloading so much stuff my desktop if full of it - and im nowhere.
I had ICS for htc running before without any mods and wanted to try the root / mod thing.
My phone hangs at the htc boot screen. I have tried installing 3 different cw10.1 zip files all from xda to no avail, they always give me an error. Ive tried running the RUU exe and it ends in an error. I then fund the rom.zip file in the directory and renamed it to PB99IMG.zip, dropped it in root of sdcard and nothing.. it just skips past the lines and goes to fastboot. Should it not be named PB88IMG.zip? I recall seeing those numbers flit past.
Is it possible to force the bastard phone to take cwm this way by renaming the zip? (Ive read no - its only for official RUU's).
anyway - the oneclick didnt work, nor did ver1, ive tried various shell methods (which i cant even recall). Im currentlyunlocked, S-ON, firmware 20.2.2000 or something (the one that revolutionary WONT work on).
Ive been chasing my tail and just gave up.
please give me some info as to what i could have dobe wrong. I installed clockwork via lpay store. I factory reset, cleared caches and batt logs and was able to go into the OS a few times - but obviously one of the methods i tried did something.
thanks again great forum, but honestly, what a complete mess!! there are so many approaches with so many pitfalls its crazy.. esp for a noob when the noob apps dont work either!
HTC Desire S GSM
unclocked via htcdev
S-ON
hboot: 2.02.0002
Radio: 3831.19.00.110
Latest CMWR
Gets stuck @ white screen
Tried:
factory reset / wipe / dalvik / batt stats
reboot to recovery: install SU, gapps, cwm rom 10.1 (also tried 7.1). reboot / then fastboot boot boot.img (from the CWM zip). nothing.
Ive tried re installing the EU RUU - also nothing. Renaming the rom.zip to PG**IMG.zip, it reading the file then stops 2 fastboot screen. nothing. nada.zip.
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i think u have MDDI pannel (not the one compatible with cianogen) try to flash a sense rom
have a look of THIS
Hi
#bootloader:
do the same rules apply for ALL installations? Does bootloader have to be locked FOR anything to boot or just the stock OS's? does it have to be in a sequence - ie do i have to do this each time i try install an OS or can i leave it? Will this break the booting if its wrong? Can i use a bootloader from company X and a rom from company Y? What files do i use/extract/where do i get them, and are they device specific - what r the base requirements?
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On HTC devices, the bootloader is called HBOOT. This is a 100% device-specific program whose sole purpose is to initialize the hardware so that an operating system (such as Android, i.e. Linux) can load. If your bootloader is damaged, your device is 100% bricked.
To prevent tampering with the system, HTC have locked ("S-ON") their bootloaders so that they won't accept unsigned ROM images. So, on your HTC phone, you cannot install any operating system other than what's provided by HTC. You can partially lift these restrictions by unlocking via htcdev, as you have, or you can fully lift all restrictions on your device by going S-OFF. S-OFF-ing the Desire S is done by exploiting a bug in HBOOT version 0.98 and overwriting the bootloader with a patched version ("Revolutionary") that has all write protection disabled.
In order to flash official HTC upgrade packages ("RUU"s), you can be either S-ON or S-OFF, but if you're S-ON you MUST lock the bootloader. Anything that's not a RUU can (only) be flashed without re-locking the bootloader.
Having an unlocked bootloader is only relevant when flashing new ROMs or recoveries. Having an unlocked or locked bootloader per se will not affect booting at all, with one well-known exception: if you're S-ON and htcdev unlocked, the write protection installed by the bootloader is still on for the bootloader, radio, and kernel partitions. This means that you can't flash kernels from a running OS -- only from the bootloader. This means that when you flash a custom ROM, it will not be able to flash the kernel automatically, you have to do that manually via fastboot. Failing to do that will result in your phone freezing on the white HTC screen when it tries to boot.
#S-on/Off
I have been unable to get mine to off -
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That's expected, because you're most likely not running a ROM that has a HBOOT version that is vulnerable to the exploit used by Revolutionary.
edit: nope, your HBOOT is newer than 0.98 and is therefore not exploitable.
#unlocked bootloader
its been indicated that this will throw off a stock OS installer, will cyanogenmod work with this off?
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Only official HTC RUUs require that the bootloader be locked.
Cyanogenmod can only be installed with the bootloader unlocked, but you may always re-lock after installing it. Remember to manually flash the boot.img (that's the kernel) via fastboot directly after flashing CM through your custom recovery.
#RUU / Mods
I assume these are the OS's - do i have to do this last/middle? and steps after? to duplicate: are they linked to the bootloader?
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A RUU is a *complete* software package for your device made by HTC. It contains everything from bootloader to operating system. I don't really know what else you're trying to ask, so please elaborate.
#recovery
this is just an upgrade to the stock junk and has no effect on booting, etc. can be left in place if working. can install via play or fastboot via zip. (and other methods im sure).
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The recovery is a specialized mini-Android OS that allows you to flash new software (such as unofficial ROMs such as CM) to your device. What recovery you have installed has no bearing on your main OS. If you're htcdev unlocked, the only way you can install a custom (i.e. non-stock and non-crippled) recovery is via fastboot; if you're S-OFF you can use the 4EXT updater app from Google Play.
So do i relock the bootloader before i install any mod - or is this for stock only? And do install stock first, or can i relock and follow the steps above to root / get cwm 10.7 or 7.1 running?
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Why do you want to install stock?
lastly - where do i get the boot.img from? is that device specific or can i extract it / dl it? reason im asking is because it appears this file is device specific - and needs to be backed up from stock device before rooting/unlocking etc?
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boot.img is inside the zip of the ROM you're going to flash.
I hope I've been able to answer most of your questions. If you require more help, please search first, and if you can't find what you're looking for, please do ask.
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Im trying to get a picture of the inter relations ~ pls bear with me:i dont want to be trying to sys c: when i dont have a partition kind of scenario - absolute clarity is needed - my apologies as i try wrap this up..
#bootloader:
do the same rules apply for ALL installations? Does bootloader have to be locked FOR anything to boot or just the stock OS's? does it have to be in a sequence - ie do i have to do this each time i try install an OS or can i leave it? Will this break the booting if its wrong? Can i use a bootloader from company X and a rom from company Y? What files do i use/extract/where do i get them, and are they device specific - what r the base requirements?
#S-on/Off
I have been unable to get mine to off -
#unlocked bootloader
its been indicated that this will throw off a stock OS installer, will cyanogenmod work with this off?
#RUU / Mods
I assume these are the OS's - do i have to do this last/middle? and steps after? to duplicate: are they linked to the bootloader?
#recovery
this is just an upgrade to the stock junk and has no effect on booting, etc. can be left in place if working. can install via play or fastboot via zip. (and other methods im sure).
Im trying to figure out what i can do once, and what i have to keep fiddling with, so i can hone in and get up and running.
If my questions appear ignorant - then ignore me. Im trying to paint a very clear picture of the tech relations between the various aspects and how they relate / interact - which is crucial to moving on from noobness - so pls bear with me and drop the remarks / attitude. Ive read my a$$ off and am still unclear for what many assume is basic understanding.
Im sure there are ALOT of sane unlazy logic ppl out there stuck in the same boat - and sometimes ppl who are VERY knowledgeable get a bit semi-aggressive putting ppl off from asking questions.
So do i relock the bootloader before i install any mod - or is this for stock only? And do install stock first, or can i relock and follow the steps above to root / get cwm 10.7 or 7.1 running?
lastly - where do i get the boot.img from? is that device specific or can i extract it / dl it? reason im asking is because it appears this file is device specific - and needs to be backed up from stock device before rooting/unlocking etc?
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# bootloader
The bootloader must be locked to install an RUU (stock rom), it must be unlocked to install a custom rom.
# s-on / s-off
If you unlock your bootloader through htcdev.com, the phone stays s-on. This means you can't install a different radio or hboot (mostly not necessary anyway), or write to the /boot partition or recovery apart from in fastboot.
That means, after every rom installation, you have to reboot to bootloader (fastboot), and flash the boot.img (extracted from the rom you installed)
# recovery
A custom recovery is a must for flashing custom roms (it's where you flash the zips) , I recommend 4ext, other known recoveries are Cwm and twrp. Be aware that you can only flash recoveries in fastboot (not through an app) , if your device is s-on
1.s-off means you can flash anything you want to all partitions on the phone..
S- on (htc dev unlocked) bootloader is unlocked so you gain acces to system partition,
but neither to radio partition nor bootloader itself, so you cannot freely change them at will.
While flashing rom via recovery, ( when s-on) each time you'll have to flash boot.img of that rom -via fastboot as well, because kernel partition is not reachable from recovery ,
Boot img is to bo found in the rom zip ( namely boot.img).
and is absolutely necessary to flash that particular one
or, if existing- other that is compatible with rom of you choice and phone model..
Assuming- to flash any custom:
-bootloader has to be unlocked
-you need custom recovery ( 4ext or clockworkmod)
-rom is packed in zip format ( flashing via recovery)
-each time you change roms, you have to flash boot img of that particular rom,
( to be found inside that rom.zip)
from recovery must reboot to bootloader (adb reboot bootloader)
then flash boot.img...
If it says ok you may now begin booting in to system
Recovery:
To flash anything like roms or mods etc.
custom recovery is required,
stock htc recovery is been there for slightly different purpose,
and is, well.. rather useless for any device customizing...
1.when s-on: is necessary to flash recovery via fastboot-as an < .img > file
so, when it is zipped- extract the file: xxxyy_recovery .img,
change its name just to recovery.img, and flash it...
2.when s-off : is possible to update it via market app (but only when s-off)
RUU: is a stock phone image, and ussualy contains radio and bootloader itself,
flashing it, may upgrade your device's components that normally -while s-on-
you'd not be able to touch, but there is a price:
1.you must relock bootloader: fastboot oem lock
otherwise you'll always be getting an error
(but if you still keep unlock_token from htc dev-can unlock it again)
2.you must establish
A) your device's CID - Customer IDentification number (whether is generic or carrier branded)
B) your phone's software version region ( wwe or asia or..etc)
C) software version ( froyo, gb, ics )
because, normally bootloader will not let you flash lower RUU version
than itself,
( every RUU contains bootloader, so the one working on the device
will never let downgrade itself- well not without a little trick of course-this is XDA)
Bootloader:
It is advised to use only bootloaders for your device- if you try to flash something slse,
you'll end up with a dead phone ( no fastboot no nothing- paperweight)
While s-on you cannot upgrade bootloader in any other way but by flashing official RUU...
While s-off it is possible to write to bootloader partition ( but always a bit risky)
There are:
- stock bootloaders
- patched ( revolutionary )
- eng bootloaders ( modified - possible to overwrite it by different one in case it is necessary)...
...well... now, there is much more to it if one wants to know everything
if there is something you'd like to know in particular- write back...
fantastic answers and explanations last 3 chaps!!!!
Guys - excellent answers thank you SO much! i have a MUCH better idea now thanks to your no attitude clear answers! I think this should be a sticky as it clears SOOO much confusion for a multitude of users - and fills the forums with the same problems over and over - simply because ppl lack this base understanding b4 opening the darn prompt lol (like me!!)
So to recap"
While flashing rom via recovery, ( when s-on) each time you'll have to flash boot.img of that rom -via fastboot as well, because kernel partition is not reachable from recovery ,
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so by following these directions:
Assuming- to flash any custom:
-bootloader has to be unlocked
-you need custom recovery ( 4ext or clockworkmod)
-rom is packed in zip format ( flashing via recovery)
-each time you change roms, you have to flash boot img of that particular rom,
( to be found inside that rom.zip)
from recovery must reboot to bootloader (adb reboot bootloader)
then flash boot.img...
If it says ok you may now begin booting in to system
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im basically working around the S-On / kernel & partition issue i take it?
Im gonna try all this now - reason i wanted to flash stock
Why do you want to install stock?
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is so that i can apply the earlier exploits to gain S-Off - but ill try the steps above and see.
fwiw - at this point im only downloading roms specifically for my phone - its my 1st so im going with stable ones, cyanogen for now. Once I have a better grip ill explore after that
btw:
A RUU is a *complete* software package for your device made by HTC. It contains everything from bootloader to operating system. I don't really know what else you're trying to ask, so please elaborate.
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I was trying to figure out if the OS / roms / RUU had to be tied to boot images - as it appears they do, and whether there was a specific sequence to installing them). Since u clarified the RUU's are all-in-ones i guess the installer takes care of that, where as the others have pointed out - flashing custom roms require the boot.img to be flashed AFTER installing the rom - not the best question i admit!!
If your bootloader is damaged, your device is 100% bricked.
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So if i can access fastboot etc then i can assume mine is fine right?
Thanks again guys - if there was a ribbon bar instead of just thanks id hit all of u a few times - im SURE many noobs will find all this info really really helpful. Its hard to tie the parts together and get an idea of how they all fit - its really puzzling.. and I know u gotta break something before u really understand it - but its nice to avoid this if possible!
Ill keep u posted on progress/results
no luck .... yet
got it working guys - had to flash boot img BEFORE rom, not after.
cyanogen mod 10.1 running on Desire s.
2 days of pain over
fstarockr said:
so by following these directions:
im basically working around the S-On / kernel & partition issue i take it?
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Exactly.
Im gonna try all this now - reason i wanted to flash stock
is so that i can apply the earlier exploits to gain S-Off - but ill try the steps above and see.
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That's a valid reason, but in that case you don't need to flash a custom rom first. You just need to use misc_version to lower your mainversion (a fastboot variable) and then you must flash an old (exploitable) RUU. There are numerous guides on how to do this.
I was trying to figure out if the OS / roms / RUU had to be tied to boot images - as it appears they do, and whether there was a specific sequence to installing them). Since u clarified the RUU's are all-in-ones i guess the installer takes care of that, where as the others have pointed out - flashing custom roms require the boot.img to be flashed AFTER installing the rom
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Correct, but only if you're S-ON and htcdev unlocked. If you're S-OFF the recovery has no problem writing the boot image by itself.
So if i can access fastboot etc then i can assume mine is fine right?
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Hell, the mere fact that you can turn on your device means your bootloader is fine
got it working guys - had to flash boot img BEFORE rom, not after.
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No you don't? The order doesn't matter, as long as you've flashed both.
Hi there,
Sorry for my bad english. I've looked for a answer but I don't understand all of solution :/
I'm on a mac and I have a Sensation Xe (Europe) S-On.
When I've change MIUI to Cyanogenmod. My mobil phone change the rom and bug with the kernel O_O ?
Now I got the bad Kernel for the room :S and the phone doesn't boot (stop at bootscreen).
I got the same problem if I try to install a new room by the boot loader.
At this time I want to back on the factory room and Kernel for my facility.
But the .exe of RUU doesn't work on mac (of course). And when I try on a windows; I connect the phone to the computer with boot tools but it's not work.
Sorry, I think it's not the first time someone ask this question but too much result to find the good way to do that
Hkyx said:
Hi there,
Sorry for my bad english. I've looked for a answer but I don't understand all of solution :/
I'm on a mac and I have a Sensation Xe (Europe) S-On.
When I've change MIUI to Cyanogenmod. My mobil phone change the rom and bug with the kernel O_O ?
Now I got the bad Kernel for the room :S and the phone doesn't boot (stop at bootscreen).
I got the same problem if I try to install a new room by the boot loader.
At this time I want to back on the factory room and Kernel for my facility.
But the .exe of RUU doesn't work on mac (of course). And when I try on a windows; I connect the phone to the computer with boot tools but it's not work.
Sorry, I think it's not the first time someone ask this question but too much result to find the good way to do that
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You need HTC driver for the phone to work on windows.
Anyway, the problem is that since you're S-On, you need to flash the kernel manually. You place it in the same directory as adb and fastboot (I don't know if you have it on mac, I guess that yes, or else use windows), and when booted to fastboot (on the bootloader), type the following command:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
Where boot.img is the name of the kernel of the ROM (it's inside the .zip of the ROM).
Alternatively, if you have 4EXT recovery (and if you don't, I suggest you get it), enable smartflash, and then you will be able to flash ROMs regularily.
Good luck.
astar26 said:
You need HTC driver for the phone to work on windows.
Anyway, the problem is that since you're S-On, you need to flash the kernel manually. You place it in the same directory as adb and fastboot (I don't know if you have it on mac, I guess that yes, or else use windows), and when booted to fastboot (on the bootloader), type the following command:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
Where boot.img is the name of the kernel of the ROM (it's inside the .zip of the ROM).
Alternatively, if you have 4EXT recovery (and if you don't, I suggest you get it), enable smartflash, and then you will be able to flash ROMs regularily.
Good luck.
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Hi,
It's not possible to use 4ext, because the phone doesn't boot. he's stop at the boot loader.
I've try with adb for mac but I think I don't do the good command to flash by adb the kernel
ADB does not work, you have to use fastboot! Just follow the instructions by astar26. Connect your phone to your PC/mac and type "fastboot reboot-bootloader" and then "fastboot flash boot boot.img"
Regards
Gesendet von meinem HTC Sensation mit Tapatalk 4
astar26 said:
You need HTC driver for the phone to work on windows.
Anyway, the problem is that since you're S-On, you need to flash the kernel manually. You place it in the same directory as adb and fastboot (I don't know if you have it on mac, I guess that yes, or else use windows), and when booted to fastboot (on the bootloader), type the following command:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
Where boot.img is the name of the kernel of the ROM (it's inside the .zip of the ROM).
Alternatively, if you have 4EXT recovery (and if you don't, I suggest you get it), enable smartflash, and then you will be able to flash ROMs regularily.
Good luck.
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Hi, I'm trying to flash a Cyanogenmod ROM for a friend on his HTC Sensation Z710e (rooted, bootloader unlocked) - my own phone is an Xperia Ray so I'm not too familiar with the process. Do I need to flash the Kernel before I flash the ROM? What's the best way to do it? If it's a matter of following the process you outlined above then I'm afraid I can't really follow it - I really need an idiot-proof 'how-to' guide I'm afraid, like I said, I'm a total noob when it comes to the HTC Sensation.
Hope you can help.
seamo123 said:
Hi, I'm trying to flash a Cyanogenmod ROM for a friend on his HTC Sensation Z710e (rooted, bootloader unlocked) - my own phone is am Xperia Ray so I'm not too familiar with the process. Do I need to flash the Kernel before I flash the ROM? What's the best way to do it? If it's a matter of following the process you outlined above then I'm afraid I can't really follow it - I really need an idiot-proof 'how-to' guide I'm afraid, like I said, I'm a total noob when it comes to the HTC Sensation.
Hope you can help.
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Usually the ROM is flashed before the kernel, this is what I did
Babyhustle said:
Usually the ROM is flashed before the kernel, this is what I did
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I have no idea how to flash a kernel on the HTC - that's my main problem
seamo123 said:
I have no idea how to flash a kernel on the HTC - that's my main problem
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astar26 explained how it works. If the sensation of your friend has 4ext recovery use smartflash, if twrp use htc dumlock then you don't need to flash the kernel seperately.
Hkyx said:
Hi there,
Sorry for my bad english. I've looked for a answer but I don't understand all of solution :/
I'm on a mac and I have a Sensation Xe (Europe) S-On.
When I've change MIUI to Cyanogenmod. My mobil phone change the rom and bug with the kernel O_O ?
Now I got the bad Kernel for the room :S and the phone doesn't boot (stop at bootscreen).
I got the same problem if I try to install a new room by the boot loader.
At this time I want to back on the factory room and Kernel for my facility.
But the .exe of RUU doesn't work on mac (of course). And when I try on a windows; I connect the phone to the computer with boot tools but it's not work.
Sorry, I think it's not the first time someone ask this question but too much result to find the good way to do that
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To flash a ROM on the Sensation:
Go to recovery
(Wipe. Then) flash the .zip of the ROM
That's it. There is, however, a catch for S-ON devices. HTC hasn't allowed flashing of /boot from recovery. This means that, for S-ON devices, the kernel cannot be flashed.
The best way around this is to use 4ext recovery. It has a option called Smartflash. That will flash your kernel even if you're S-ON.
(Some roms, like ViperS 3.1.x require an additional kernel flasher as SmartFlash doesn't work there).
The other way is to manually flash the boot image (kernel). Go to fastboot USB (this is NOT ADB), and execute:
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
The boot.img is your new boot image.
Thanks for the reply!
We've already tried flashing the ROM as normal [using ROM Manager] but it doesn't work.
1. How do I know the device is 'S-on?' or not? Can it be changed? What's 'S-on' anyway?
2. Do you have a link handy for that recovery system you mentioned that allows flashing of kernels?
3. I haven't a clue how to manually flash the boot image - with my Xperia Ray I just use the Sony flash tool and fastboot. Can you give me an idiot's guide to doing this?
Far_SighT said:
To flash a ROM on the Sensation:
Go to recovery
(Wipe. Then) flash the .zip of the ROM
That's it. There is, however, a catch for S-ON devices. HTC hasn't allowed flashing of /boot from recovery. This means that, for S-ON devices, the kernel cannot be flashed.
The best way around this is to use 4ext recovery. It has a option called Smartflash. That will flash your kernel even if you're S-ON.
(Some roms, like ViperS 3.1.x require an additional kernel flasher as SmartFlash doesn't work there).
The other way is to manually flash the boot image (kernel). Go to fastboot USB (this is NOT ADB), and execute:
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
The boot.img is your new boot image.
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seamo123 said:
Thanks for the reply!
We've already tried flashing the ROM as normal [using ROM Manager] but it doesn't work.
1. How do I know the device is 'S-on?' or not? Can it be changed? What's 'S-on' anyway?
2. Do you have a link handy for that recovery system you mentioned that allows flashing of kernels?
3. I haven't a clue how to manually flash the boot image - with my Xperia Ray I just use the Sony flash tool and fastboot. Can you give me an idiot's guide to doing this?
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Ah, I see:
Power off and pull out the battery. Press Power + Vol down. Once the bootloader screen comes up it'll either say S-ON or S-OFF.
For flashing ROMs S-ON use this (also includes 4ext recovery). Read about S-ON here.
Just use smartflash (see link in 1). For the special cases I mentioned in previous post (no smartflash), just see the ROM's thread for S-ON flashing.
Note that if you want just want to flash ROMs the above method is good. For S-OFF, either use this, in case you followed above steps, or use this, in case you want to S-OFF first. S-OFF is not needed for flashing ROMs.
htc sensation z710e wifi problem
Hello friends!
Two months I have a problem with my HTC SENSATION! The problem is due to wifi,I read many forums about this problem, I tried many solutions, but without success! I assumed that the problem is due to "wifi country code". I tried this solution "WiFix Manager", but did not help.
I tried this option http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469428,
because my phone is unlocked with HTCdev, back to factory rom 2.3.3 hboot 1.17.11 to be able to achieve S-OFF method revolutionary s-off.
I did everything, but after a while the problem still occurs. The only way to fix it is by re-install the Rom again.Most often breaks when I restart phone while is connected to the wifi network,when my phone starts, this wifi error appears.I can not write scripts or fix them, so I can not do this option: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368501 . My phone is from England, Orange UK is the operator of which is purchased,I do not know if there is any difference!? And now my phone is rooted, revolutionary s-off, got super CID, 4ext recovery....
What else do I need to have no more this wifi problem?
I'm not very good at Development or haking, so if someone can explain to me what to do to solve my problem, I would appreciate it!
I just want to install "Revelation 1.0.3" and only use it! I am from Bulgaria by the way.
VS23BG said:
Hello friends!
Two months I have a problem with my HTC SENSATION! The problem is due to wifi,I read many forums about this problem, I tried many solutions, but without success! I assumed that the problem is due to "wifi country code". I tried this solution "WiFix Manager", but did not help.
I tried this option http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469428,
because my phone is unlocked with HTCdev, back to factory rom 2.3.3 hboot 1.17.11 to be able to achieve S-OFF method revolutionary s-off.
I did everything, but after a while the problem still occurs. The only way to fix it is by re-install the Rom again.Most often breaks when I restart phone while is connected to the wifi network,when my phone starts, this wifi error appears.I can not write scripts or fix them, so I can not do this option: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368501 . My phone is from England, Orange UK is the operator of which is purchased,I do not know if there is any difference!? And now my phone is rooted, revolutionary s-off, got super CID, 4ext recovery....
What else do I need to have no more this wifi problem?
I'm not very good at Development or haking, so if someone can explain to me what to do to solve my problem, I would appreciate it!
I just want to install "Revelation 1.0.3" and only use it! I am from Bulgaria by the way.
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flash the boot.img of your current rom and see if wifi works
rzr86 said:
flash the boot.img of your current rom and see if wifi works
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And I tried, I installed program KGS Utility,did not help! I tried with the "ADB" command to flash the boot.img, just flashed it, but it did not help!
And now, whenever my wifi give me error, I installed a new Rom! So I solved the problem, but this solution is temporary. The problem manifests itself sooner or later. End i chenge Rom again, there is a good side, will test all Roms which is on this site!
Thank you for your attention!
VS23BG said:
And I tried, I installed program KGS Utility,did not help! I tried with the "ADB" command to flash the boot.img, just flashed it, but it did not help!
And now, whenever my wifi give me error, I installed a new Rom! So I solved the problem, but this solution is temporary. The problem manifests itself sooner or later. End i chenge Rom again, there is a good side, will test all Roms which is on this site!
Thank you for your attention!
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May be a firmware problem. Do a Ruu and see what happens.
Happy to help.
Far_SighT said:
May be a firmware problem. Do a Ruu and see what happens.
Happy to help.
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RUU? Recommend me to back factory Rom using Ruu.exe? Already done it! Return factory Rom 2.3.3 HBOOT 1.17.11,to achieve revolutionary s-off. :good:
VS23BG said:
RUU? Recommend me to back factory Rom using Ruu.exe? Already done it! Return factory Rom 2.3.3 HBOOT 1.17.11,to achieve revolutionary s-off. :good:
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lift up gently the antenna which is responsible for wifi in the back cover
I think I finally found the solution to the wifi problem!
The solution is in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23554125&postcount=1804
Now I use Android Revolution HD 7.3,sometimes the problem occurs again, but now I have a solution!
Just repeat the procedure described in the post and wifi working again.
When you delete a file "wpa_supplicant.conf", I have to re-enter all the router's password which I linked, but this is not such a big problem!
Oh my ... I have now spent sure 6 or 7 hours trying to figure this out. If anybody could help me, please ?
This is not my first attempt at root, and I have been succesful with my HTC Wildfire S and installed various Custom ROMs on that, all fine.
Now I have a Desire S, that I managed to unlock (UNLOCKED), which is still S-ON, and, from all I can tell, rooted (superuser app does not complain about anything), I had installed 4EXT on the HTC Sense Stock rom that came with the phone, and that installed fine and no complaints.
HBOOT is 2.02.0002, which many people say requires downgrading, but then in other places it is said, this is not strictly necessary.
Now the following:
The ONLY recovery I have been able to install is recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-saga.img (using adb flash recovery ... under ubuntu 12.04).
That seems to go well, and the CM recovery comes up fine and I can do backups and so on. If I try to flash 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.5_RC5 or RC9 and go into recovery, the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen (Telekom branding, it seems). Oh well ... so no 4EXT and back to CM. No problem, just strange.
Now, with S-ON it SHOULD be possible to install custom ROMs, like flinnycm101_saga_22.zip. so i pushed this onto /sdcard, and also extracted the boot.img from this zip. In recovery I can install the .zip seemingly fine, no errors, and then, since this is S-ON, I
sudo adb flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
(i renamed it from boot.img to that to keep track, should not be a problem, right?). and that goes over well, too. I do not know how many times I have already erased cache, dalvik, factory, battery. all to no avail. when i reboot the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen. at least i would have expected to get the CM spash screen (like that rotating wheel or something like that), but that may not be a problem.
I have tried a few other roms (devilkin 11.0 and carbon) with this method. same, same ...
I really don't know ... sheesh ... any ideas ? And if it boils down to downgrading: can I do that on ubuntu ? All the guides I have found so far required Windows.
Sorry ... clearly I am not a developer. If somebody could nudge me into the right direction ? I am quite happy to do my homework, but not really sure anymore where else to look. This SHOULD work, from all I found in the internet.
And ... I hope this is not the wrong forum. If so, really sorry ...
1000 thanks
Ingo
ipk1 said:
Oh my ... I have now spent sure 6 or 7 hours trying to figure this out. If anybody could help me, please ?
This is not my first attempt at root, and I have been succesful with my HTC Wildfire S and installed various Custom ROMs on that, all fine.
Now I have a Desire S, that I managed to unlock (UNLOCKED), which is still S-ON, and, from all I can tell, rooted (superuser app does not complain about anything), I had installed 4EXT on the HTC Sense Stock rom that came with the phone, and that installed fine and no complaints.
HBOOT is 2.02.0002, which many people say requires downgrading, but then in other places it is said, this is not strictly necessary.
Now the following:
The ONLY recovery I have been able to install is recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-saga.img (using adb flash recovery ... under ubuntu 12.04).
That seems to go well, and the CM recovery comes up fine and I can do backups and so on. If I try to flash 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.5_RC5 or RC9 and go into recovery, the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen (Telekom branding, it seems). Oh well ... so no 4EXT and back to CM. No problem, just strange.
Now, with S-ON it SHOULD be possible to install custom ROMs, like flinnycm101_saga_22.zip. so i pushed this onto /sdcard, and also extracted the boot.img from this zip. In recovery I can install the .zip seemingly fine, no errors, and then, since this is S-ON, I
sudo adb flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
(i renamed it from boot.img to that to keep track, should not be a problem, right?). and that goes over well, too. I do not know how many times I have already erased cache, dalvik, factory, battery. all to no avail. when i reboot the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen. at least i would have expected to get the CM spash screen (like that rotating wheel or something like that), but that may not be a problem.
I have tried a few other roms (devilkin 11.0 and carbon) with this method. same, same ...
I really don't know ... sheesh ... any ideas ? And if it boils down to downgrading: can I do that on ubuntu ? All the guides I have found so far required Windows.
Sorry ... clearly I am not a developer. If somebody could nudge me into the right direction ? I am quite happy to do my homework, but not really sure anymore where else to look. This SHOULD work, from all I found in the internet.
And ... I hope this is not the wrong forum. If so, really sorry ...
1000 thanks
Ingo
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From what I see you done it as needed.
First for recovery try find 4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1 and try to flash via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery recovery.img).If you don't get in try TWRP 2.7.0.0 by devil-kin you got it in this forum.
About white screen you should check your display.There's sony and hitachi.If you have sony then you are good and something else is problem but hitachi is problem bc you need MDDI capable kernel or use only CM 7 or older roms.
Read this about that problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
GL.
Hello!
I find it strange that you're experiencing so many issues while for everybody else things are just fine. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, it just makes me think that your problems are likely to be on your end...
You don't need to do anything with your hboot, it's fine
Are you sure that flashing www.4ext.net/ddl/saga/recovery.zip using
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
doesn't work?
sudo adb flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
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This is wrong - should be:
Code:
flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
But first try:
Code:
flashboot boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
That will just boot the image from RAM without flashing it to /boot. I recommend trying this out first with this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240592 - because that ROM is known good. If that works then we know the procedure you use is OK and you can then try to flash a ROM you actually like.
Note that AOSP roms may be problematic, because they only work with sony panels. We can check whether you have a sony or a hitachi panel once you have a ROM booting properly. (Unless there is a fastboot command that can tell you this that I'm not aware of.)
And ... I hope this is not the wrong forum. If so, really sorry ...
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It is - questions should be posted in the Questions subforum :silly:
SKENER said:
From what I see you done it as needed.
First for recovery try find 4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1 and try to flash via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery recovery.img).If you don't get in try TWRP 2.7.0.0 by devil-kin you got it in this forum.
About white screen you should check your display.There's sony and hitachi.If you have sony then you are good and something else is problem but hitachi is problem bc you need MDDI capable kernel or use only CM 7 or older roms.
Read this about that problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
GL.
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all right. thanks. i found that recovery and did
sudo fastboot flash recovery 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.6_RC1.img
when i go into recovery then, again nothing ... phone is stuck in the white screen. sorry. with white screen i meant the splash screen, which is white on my phone, but has the telecom logo. so i think the screen is allright.
so i pulled the battery and back to cwm (flashed the cms recovery and voila).
Aquous said:
Hello!
I find it strange that you're experiencing so many issues while for everybody else things are just fine. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, it just makes me think that your problems are likely to be on your end...
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absolutely. that's why i came here. the phone was fine under htc sense, so its not the phone. it got to be me.
Aquous said:
You don't need to do anything with your hboot, it's fine
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Good.
Aquous said:
Are you sure that flashing www.4ext.net/ddl/saga/recovery.zip using
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
doesn't work?
This is wrong - should be:
Code:
flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
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oh. typo. sorry.
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But first try:
Code:
flashboot boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
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This boots into recovery. But not exactly. It boots to the white Telekom screen, and then it reboots and goes into recovery. Since I found that strange I extracted the boot image once more from the flinny...zip and tried again. confirmed.
Aquous said:
That will just boot the image from RAM without flashing it to /boot. I recommend trying this out first with this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240592 - because that ROM is known good. If that works then we know the procedure you use is OK and you can then try to flash a ROM you actually like.
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Downloading. This is "SVHD v2.1.0 by mygamers (MultiDevice)", right ? The thing is huge. That's gonna take a bit and I have to go to work. Get back to you later ...
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Note that AOSP roms may be problematic, because they only work with sony panels. We can check whether you have a sony or a hitachi panel once you have a ROM booting properly. (Unless there is a fastboot command that can tell you this that I'm not aware of.)
It is - questions should be posted in the Questions subforum :silly:
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I extracted the boot.img
Can somebody move this ?
SKENER said:
From what I see you done it as needed.
First for recovery try find 4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1 and try to flash via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery recovery.img).If you don't get in try TWRP 2.7.0.0 by devil-kin you got it in this forum.
GL.
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4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1, same problem. stuck at the white telekom screen.
twrp-2.7.0.0-saga-recovery.img, same problem.
but openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-saga.img did work
Ingo
Aquous said:
I recommend trying this out first with this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240592 - because that ROM is known good.
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tdDDAAA !!!
So I installed the SVHD .zip with TWRP 2.6 (see above) and that did go nowhere yet.
But I then extracted the saga boot image from that zip kernel/saga/boot.img, renamed that to avoid confusions, and then
<code>
fastboot boot "SVHD v2.1.0 by mygamers (saga).img"
</code>
And my Telekom splash screen blinks up, then the HTC sense (quietly brilliant), and some 3 minutes later ... it worked.
Flashing
<code>
fastboot flash boot "SVHD v2.1.0 by mygamers (saga).img"
</code>
MY guess is it was the reformatting to ext4 ... is that something I should have done all along ? Or any other idea ?
Now you have a working phone, you can check which panel type you have, I suspect that has been your problem all along.
Edit: check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
teadrinker said:
Now you have a working phone, you can check which panel type you have, I suspect that has been your problem all along.
Edit: check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Yeah,check panel now.Some phones has that problem.If you have hitachi then I'm sorry.From what I know no1 make MDDI kernel anymore.
teadrinker said:
Now you have a working phone, you can check which panel type you have, I suspect that has been your problem all along.
Edit: check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Must be, since I tried to install blindnnumbs cm now, and same problem, again ... Good ... so back to SVHD and check that thread. Thanks.
Ingo
One more thing:
On the link you provided the instructions are given as follows, and i am not 100% clear on everything:
1) Wipe all data
2) Flash your custom ROM
3) Get your MDDI compatible kernel and flash it
--> IF (and only IF) you've this error when flashing kernel in recovery: assert failed:write_raw_image("/tmp/boot.img","boot"):
--> 3a) extract boot.img from custom rom ZIP and put it in the adb directory on your PC
--> 3b) reboot in fastboot mode
--> 3c) execute from PC: fastboot flash boot.img
--> 3d) reboot in recovery and retry to flash your new kernel
--> 3e) Now, flashing kernel is completed and you can continue to Step 4)
4) Get new boot.img: in recovery, attach USB cable and run from PC terminal --> adb pull /tmp/newboot.img (it will trasfer generated boot.img to your PC) <--
5) On your PC rename newboot.img file to boot.img
6) Reboot in fastboot mode
7) Install new boot.img (from PC terminal execute --> fastboot flash boot.img <--)
So I
- in twrp i installed cm-10.1-20130709-UNOFFICIAL-saga.zip (blindnnumb cm-10.1, penultimate version. the very last version does not unzip, no matter how many times i download it)
- then flashed fastboot flash boot cm-10.1-20130709-UNOFFICIAL-saga.img
- then flashed fastboot flash boot saga_mddi_291212.img (from your link)
- i pulled newboot.img and then flashed newboot.img
and i am stuck again ... but maybe i did not totally understand the instruction from above ? i.e. 2). do i need to install the zip and the img ?
also in line 7) the command seems to be wrong. right ?
ingo
If you already have a boot.img for the mddi kernel, all you have to do is:
1) flash rom zip file in recovery
2) flash mddi kernel zip in recovery
3) flash mddi kernel boot.img in fastboot
The special instructions for s-on are only needed if you have the kernel zip without the boot.img
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If you already have a boot.img for the mddi kernel, all you have to do is:
1) flash rom zip file in recovery
2) flash mddi kernel zip in recovery
3) flash mddi kernel boot.img in fastboot
The special instructions for s-on are only needed if you have the kernel zip without the boot.img
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Oh my ... that did not go either. Now I flashed
cm-10-20121116-EXPERIMENTAL-saga-NK111.zip
saga_kernel_82n_4.0_4.1.zip (which does not seem to produce a newboot.img, and does not have a boot.img either)
that, at least, brings up the spinning clockworkmod wheel ... but then that's that, too ...
oh well ... i guess SENSE it is gonna be then ...
ingo
Didn't you read the warning at the top of the hitachi panel thread? It said:
WARNING!
ALL THE LATEST 4.1.x AND 4.2.x ROMS DO NOT SUPPORT HITACHI SCREEN PANELS, EVEN AFTER APPLYING THE CORRECT MDDI KERNEL!
THIS APPLIES TO ROMS THAT ARE BASED ON AOSP, AOKP, CyanogenMod, ParanoidAndroid, PAC-Man, etc., AND ROMS THAT ARE BASED ON MIUI
THE LAST CUSTOM ROM THAT DOES SUPPORT MDDI PANELS IS CyanogenMod 10.1 Build 13 by Flinny, SO THE DATE WHEN BUILD 13 WAS RELEASED IS YOUR GUIDE TO CHOOSE THE CORRECT ROM THAT WILL BOOT UP AFTER FLASHING THE MDDI KERNEL
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Didn't you read the warning at the top of the hitachi panel thread? It said:
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Read it ... and I think I did not understand it right ... I guess I got too tired over it. I thought I had one that should match those criteria. Tomorrow is another day ...
Ingo
Hi,
I'm having problems with my HTC one SV. it powers on then it will show "htc quietly brilliance logo" and after that it shows black screen then stuck on it. i had this problem before so I remove the battery then power it on solves the problem but lately it does not work anymore lets say it's like 1/100 before it goes thourgh. i really dont know what to do tried searching for solutions just cant get it. I'm kinda newbie on terms so if anyone can help me I'm very thankful.
Thank you in Advance!
Seems like a common problem for many HTC One SV's.
Take a look in the Q&A section, there should be many threads, where i described what to do. As long as it's no US carrier phone, then things are different.
Basically:
- unlock your phone with htcdev.com (all data is lost)
- flash TWRP recovery with fastboot
- flash a rom for your model
old.splatterhand said:
Seems like a common problem for many HTC One SV's.
Take a look in the Q&A section, there should be many threads, where i described what to do. As long as it's no US carrier phone, then things are different.
Basically:
- unlock your phone with htcdev.com (all data is lost)
- flash TWRP recovery with fastboot
- flash a rom for your model
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my phone is from middle east. i assume that its all in htcdev.com? like step by step on what to do? honestly i really don't know how to flash TWRP, flash a rom and etc. I'm just having a hard time learning maybe because it's 1st time for to do it plus I'm not yet familiar with it.
You needto learn, how to use fastboot cmd, otherwise i guess your phone is lost.
But its not so hard, if you can use a computer
At htcdev you can get the basic fastboot files you need.
Try to read and follow the unlock guide, then we see how far we come.
old.splatterhand said:
You needto learn, how to use fastboot cmd, otherwise i guess your phone is lost.
But its not so hard, if you can use a computer
At htcdev you can get the basic fastboot files you need.
Try to read and follow the unlock guide, then we see how far we come.
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Hi,
im having hard time. tried to follow the steps on htcdev but im having error. here is the message.
"the program can't start because adbwinapi.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem.
any idea on how fix this?
phuge17 said:
adbwinapi.dll is missing
any idea on how fix this?
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This dll should be in the package that you have downloaded from htcdev.
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This dll should be in the package that you have downloaded from htcdev.
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Hi,
I managed to unlock my phone , TWRP and all that. i also downloaded your "[ROM]Stock odexed Android 4.2.2 Sense 5 " for k2_ul. i followed your instruction on how to install by the way mine is S-on so flash with fastboot (fastboot flash boot boot.img) am I correct? i see some okay it was kinda fast so i feel weird i thought the installing will take a minute or so because its almost 1gig file download. anyway the only thing i did not do is this part "Don't forget to flash Superuser file (look into my index thread) if you want root!" actually i really dont know what you mean by that sorry. my phone still not yet booting still stuck at blackscreen.
UPDATE** phone is just restarting over over again from htc quietly brilliant >> power off >> htc quietly brilliant >> power off.
phuge17 said:
Hi,
I managed to unlock my phone , TWRP and all that. i also downloaded your "[ROM]Stock odexed Android 4.2.2 Sense 5 " for k2_ul. i followed your instruction on how to install by the way mine is S-on so flash with fastboot (fastboot flash boot boot.img) am I correct? i see some okay it was kinda fast so i feel weird i thought the installing will take a minute or so because its almost 1gig file download. anyway the only thing i did not do is this part "Don't forget to flash Superuser file (look into my index thread) if you want root!" actually i really dont know what you mean by that sorry. my phone still not yet booting still stuck at blackscreen.
UPDATE** phone is just restarting over over again from htc quietly brilliant >> power off >> htc quietly brilliant >> power off.
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Why install an odex 4.2.2 Rom when your 4.2.2 Rom is odex by stock?
phuge17 said:
Hi,
I managed to unlock my phone , TWRP and all that. i also downloaded your "[ROM]Stock odexed Android 4.2.2 Sense 5 " for k2_ul. i followed your instruction on how to install by the way mine is S-on so flash with fastboot (fastboot flash boot boot.img) am I correct? i see some okay it was kinda fast so i feel weird i thought the installing will take a minute or so because its almost 1gig file download. anyway the only thing i did not do is this part "Don't forget to flash Superuser file (look into my index thread) if you want root!" actually i really dont know what you mean by that sorry. my phone still not yet booting still stuck at blackscreen.
UPDATE** phone is just restarting over over again from htc quietly brilliant >> power off >> htc quietly brilliant >> power off.
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Have you done a wipe in recovery before flashing the new rom?
SHM said:
Why install an odex 4.2.2 Rom when your 4.2.2 Rom is odex by stock?
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Usually it it is.
old.splatterhand said:
Have you done a wipe in recovery before flashing the new rom?
Usually it it is.
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sorry it took me weeks before i reply. anyway i did wipe the phone. are there any like reset command while on fast boot or something so that i can start from the beginning? actually im a bit lost.
Boot to recovery -> Wipe menu -> Advanced Wipe and wipe System, data, cache, dalvik cache.
Then go to Install and flash the rom for your model.
Then boot to fastboot and flash the boot.img of the rom with fastboot cmd fastboot flash boot boot.img
If that does not bring your phone back to life, something else is wrong.