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Google Nexus Two by Samsung

The Nexus Two is real. It’s made by Samsung, and a friend of ours got to play with it. It’s not going rock your face like the Nexus One did. But it will record it with a front-facing camera.
“When I first saw it from 10 feet away, I thought it was the Galaxy S,” says our source, who got to handle one. “I was a little surprised it was the Nexus Two,” because it’s so different from the Nexus One...
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ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, Samsung,,,..... Blech,.....

If this has a higher resolution super amoled screen than the galaxy s line, this could be epic.
I assume it will to keep feature parity with the iphone as android 2.3/3.0 is supposed to have native video calling.
A higher-res s-amoled will crush the retina display. Plus, stock android ftw.

Wow not even a single mention to the source? That page is full of ads and then doesn't even mention the source!
http://gizmodo.com/5676008/hands-on-the-nexus-two-by-samsung
For anybody that cares - that's the original source (if you didn't already know cuz i figered everyone saw this story by now )

clivo360 said:
If this has a higher resolution super amoled screen than the galaxy s line, this could be epic.
I assume it will to keep feature parity with the iphone as android 2.3/3.0 is supposed to have native video calling.
A higher-res s-amoled will crush the retina display. Plus, stock android ftw.
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i think its same 800 x 480 as galaxy s phones lets wait for specs

Hey now haters. I love my galaxy s. Only problem I have with it is the GPS and well hopefully that all gets fixed with the nexus 2. I would hope so. What I love most about this phone is its sooo thin and light. Not like the HTC phones at all.

I hope It's not cheap.
LOYAL NEXUS ONE USERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! This Is Our Decree. #1 We will will not accept an inferior quality phone. #2 It must meet or exceed present Nexus One build quality. #3 It must have state of the art hardware and specs. Meet our demands or we'll hit you where it hurts, your pocket!(STOCK)I'm not spending over $500.00 U.S. Dollars on some cheap plastic.

Will the Nexus Prime smash the SGS2?

From all the rumours floating around at the moment the Nexus Prime sounds like a beast. Samsung made, 1.5gHz exynos chip, Amoled 720p screen. 5mp rear camera w/1080p and a front facing 1mp camera. No physical buttons and Android 4.0.
But when the SGS2 gets Android 4.0, other than the 720p screen will it be pushed to 2nd in the awesome stakes? After all we have an very nice camera and and awesome chipset. Just like the Nexus S was a google branded SGS1, will the Prime be a google branded SGS2?
Any thoughts?
http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2011/07/18/google-nexus-prime-10-things-we-want-to-see/

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From all the rumours floating around at the moment the Nexus Prime sounds like a beast. Samsung made, 1.5gHz exynos chip, Amoled 720p screen. 5mp rear camera w/1080p and a front facing 1mp camera. No physical buttons and Android 4.0.
But when the SGS2 gets Android 4.0, other than the 720p screen will it be pushed to 2nd in the awesome stakes? After all we have an very nice camera and and awesome chipset. Just like the Nexus S was a google branded SGS1, will the Prime be a google branded SGS2?
Any thoughts?
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It depends on how it all comes together. A higher quality 5mp camera could produce better results that our 8mp camera so that doesn't scare me. More power is always good. A pure Google phone is always good from a latest and greatest perspective. It's also guaranteed to have NFC which is good.
The screen kind of scares me. My SGS2 screen (an early build) is great but there have been lots of reported QC issues, wide variations in color temperature, the gradient issue, and the left side banding issue. Pushing even more pixels to get to 720p is going to be tough to pull off based on the challenges they experienced in the jump from SAMOLED to SAMOLED+.
The radio's important and I wouldn't go back to something lower than 21MB HSPA+. I doubt it'll support any form of LTE because there are too many frequencies to contend with.
So count me as a "maybe."

Thanks for responding. I am not so sure either. That's why a discussion is a great place to start. Hopefully it will smash the new Iphone.
http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2011/07/22/google-nexus-prime-processor-detailed/

It all seems over the edge to me. From looking at the previous releases of google phones starting from Nexus One which consisted similar specs to the desire, and the nexus S which again has the similar specs to the Galaxy S, infact they shared the same chipsets. I'm not implying that the prime would indeed carry the similarities of the GS2 on that behalf but maybe not too far off.
An improved build of the AMOLED+ screen with all the banding issue and etc gone (I doubt it'll be 720p either). I'd say yes to dual core and maybe 1.5ghz (why not?). 5mp camera, (really?) I doubt they'd go anything below an 8mp due to competitvity and yes yes we all know that the cmos sensor makes all the difference but most people prefer figures rather than facts which is where the target audience usually lies (consider iphone 5 being the biggest role in competitiveness here).
All in all any specs that surpasses the GS2 is a path to the right direction although it's too early to judge since quad core is only around the corner, so time will tell. I personally wouldn't buy a google phone; my list of reasons would stuff this whole thread.

Next Nexus will also be google with bare basic OS , that means no awesome Samsung media codecs.
Also Nexus S had no external sdcard only 16gigs build in.
Only time will show how crippled its gonna be, sure certain aspects might be better depending who is gonna make it, CPU/GPU might be better , 720p AMOLED screen would be nice or at very least some decked out IPS panel.
Generally nexus devices never been better then some alternatives , but its subjective everyone has different needs. I am more interested in next Galaxy successor !

Yes the galaxy 3 will be a huge step. I think that all the codec support on this device is amazing. The nexus s was OK but destroyed by the s2. The next nexus probably won't beat the s2 when you look at the previous steps taken.
Samsungs software this year has been excellent. It's one of the few devices with duel core being optimised well. Will vanilla android be optimised? Probably not.

nexus s will be interesting, and will be worth a look at if it boasts a 720p display.
EDIT: haah i meant nexus prime , thanks robt772000

blickmanic said:
nexus s will be interesting, and will be worth a look at if it boasts a 720p display.
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Nexus Prime

tl;dr
Nexus "Prime" will be a very good phone (atleast I can hope so!). But even if it smashes GS2, no shame in that. By all accounts, Prime would be released 6+ months after GS2, so it would be a shame if it can't beat GS2.
I am worried about few other points which you guys might have better knowledge:
1. How would be the application support for Ice cream? Will it be compatible with 2.x application?
2. What would be native/suggested resolution and form factor of displays? I assume that it's 480*800 for 2.x models. Is that going to change with Ice cream?
3. What would happen to Honeycomb? Ice cream is supposed to be across both tablets and phones? So, it appears to me that HC was just a stop-gap arrangement to allow android foot-hold in the tablet market.
4. What sort of processors are they going to support? My assumption was that HC was typically made compatible with Tegra2 and the primary reason why it sucked initially. I would bet that if HC ran on Exynos with Samsung optimized drivers, it would be much better than what it is now.
Most people tend think the battle would be with iOS, my idea is that the biggest threat for Ice cream will be from Microsoft!
Remember Windows 8 - it's being optimized for both tablets and notebook/desktops. Will be running both on x86 and ARM processors. And from initial views, that looks simply awesome. MS is going to have same platform running for phone, tablets and notebooks. I can't help and appreciate how much it would attract the developers. You develop for 1 platform which could run the application on any of the devices. And the customer base - everyone running Windows PC. That is huge. As much as I hated Microsoft, I can say with no shame that I simply love Win 7. I believe I had no BSOD over 1-1.5 years of using Win 7. Ice cream need to step up and has to bring something really useful to be a successful.

My only real concern is the screen quality, the SAMOLED plus is inferior to the regular SAMOLED due to its massive banding and QC issues, for day to day use theres basically no difference between both, For pictures the SAMOLED made some pictures prettier because it was not able to display the flaws/image compression artifacts, color is better on the Plus though. All in all it boils down to the screen quality for me.

robt772000 said:
From all the rumours floating around at the moment the Nexus Prime sounds like a beast. Samsung made, 1.5gHz exynos chip, Amoled 720p screen. 5mp rear camera w/1080p and a front facing 1mp camera. No physical buttons and Android 4.0.
But when the SGS2 gets Android 4.0, other than the 720p screen will it be pushed to 2nd in the awesome stakes? After all we have an very nice camera and and awesome chipset. Just like the Nexus S was a google branded SGS1, will the Prime be a google branded SGS2?
Any thoughts?
http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2011/07/18/google-nexus-prime-10-things-we-want-to-see/
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All that and probably no micro sd card slot again.

Most definitely. It's the Big G's OFFICIAL phone. And should it have this epic HD-high-resolution 4.0" or 4.3" display. It'll blow the GS2 away. Not to mention whatever minor processor improvements there will be.
Also it'll be rocking 4.0 - K.O - Game Set Match.
Anyhows, I'm just happy they're continuing the Nexus range, because it really is something that showcases Android and combats iOS and that really brings the best of the best to the table. (well so far it has)........well not really with the Nexus S, but that is still a damn good phone. But this Nexus Prime looks like it's going to be another Nexus One, ground-breaking.

rd_nest said:
Remember Windows 8 - it's being optimized for both tablets and notebook/desktops. Will be running both on x86 and ARM processors. And from initial views, that looks simply awesome. MS is going to have same platform running for phone, tablets and notebooks. I can't help and appreciate how much it would attract the developers. You develop for 1 platform which could run the application on any of the devices. And the customer base - everyone running Windows PC. That is huge. As much as I hated Microsoft, I can say with no shame that I simply love Win 7. I believe I had no BSOD over 1-1.5 years of using Win 7. Ice cream need to step up and has to bring something really useful to be a successful.
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hmmm I agree with you. Microsoft are really stepping up their game. (ABOUT TIME!!) But I think while Apple and Microsoft are trying to unify the desktop and mobile experience into ONE, those two will compete a lot more. I think Android will take a beating in the coming years...but I also think that people (like myself) enjoy a change.
I for one, would HATE to be working on my Mac, or windows...then go out and switch to my mobile and then have the exact same/a VERY similar experience on my phone. I actually like the change in OS, the change in apps...but then again, I suppose most people just want everything to be exactly the same because it's more "simple" :/

daivik said:
hmmm I agree with you. Microsoft are really stepping up their game. (ABOUT TIME!!) But I think while Apple and Microsoft are trying to unify the desktop and mobile experience into ONE, those two will compete a lot more. I think Android will take a beating in the coming years...but I also think that people (like myself) enjoy a change.
I for one, would HATE to be working on my Mac, or windows...then go out and switch to my mobile and then have the exact same/a VERY similar experience on my phone. I actually like the change in OS, the change in apps...but then again, I suppose most people just want everything to be exactly the same because it's more "simple" :/
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Yes, both MS and Apple are trying to unify the platforms. My view is that Apple will again try to keep that niche segment and their loyal user base. MS, like Google will license their software to other vendors. The whole scenario sounds similar to what happened in the desktop space 20 years back. History repeating itself - we have Apple on one side and MS/Google with a different approach on other. Players like IBM and Compaq making way for present day vendors like Samsung/Nokia etc.,

Ho well, I won't be surprised if in a year from now, with dual core 2ghz ARMs and 1+ gig of ram in phones we will see windows 8 running on smartphones with metro UI on top... If it runs on a tab, it'll run on a smartpone. Hell the SGS2 is crushing any tablet currently, it's just sad that all the SGS are always given unused potential (remember the sgx540 on sgs1, and now exynos mali400 on sgs2). But hey that's what makes them future proof, we'll still see SGS1 running new games and apps in a year or two.
I liked android for the customization and liberty it gave me, but I pretty much ran around it both on tablet (transformer) and phone (SGS1 &2) and I think that my next gen of devices will be wp7.5 mango (if the WP7 SGS2 ever comes out!) and then wp8 stuff late 2012.
Honestly I think the current tab market is just ****ting his pants at windows 8's arrival, because frankly, no iOS or honeycomb can rival win8's functionalities, if it runs smooth of course... (win 8 transformer 2 ).
Standing from here I really see MS as the big winner of following years. Android had 2 years to evolve into something really productive, yet it didn't really came there and still has a lesser quality catalog compared to the app store. But who knows what ICS will bring ? we can only wait.

Just a quick thing I've been thinking about...
If the Nexus Prime does have a 720p display and that's what games are played on, the experience most likely would not be as smooth as the SGS2 as the difference is pixels of the two devices is very drastic. Even qHD hurts game performance. Also, isn't retina display the most pixels needed for a 3.5" screen? I have a hard time believing there would be ANY noticeable difference between a 720p screen and qHD.

It depends on what hardware it will have.
If it will boast a Qualcomm Krait, then it will blow it away. If it uses anything else, then no, it might be slightly faster performance wise, but that's all. The only thing going for it will be the 720p screen, but we still don't know the size of the display or what type it will be.
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Just a quick thing I've been thinking about...
If the Nexus Prime does have a 720p display and that's what games are played on, the experience most likely would not be as smooth as the SGS2 as the difference is pixels of the two devices is very drastic. Even qHD hurts game performance. Also, isn't retina display the most pixels needed for a 3.5" screen? I have a hard time believing there would be ANY noticeable difference between a 720p screen and qHD.
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It's supposed to have a ginormous screen, so think bigger than 4.3" of the SGS2. I don't think it will surpass the DPI of the retina display even at 720p or at that screen size.

If it doesn't surpass SII in every spec then it will be just another SII. You will have to make compromises between a lower mp camera or no card slot, etc. If it beats SII in every section then yes, it will blow it away.

Samsung Nexus for Me
Winner is
Around 2.5x higher resolution screen, 1280x720 vs 800x480
Around 50% crisper display of text, images and video, 315 PPI vs 217 PPI
More than 10% larger screen, 4.6" vs 4.3"

i will go for Nexus !!

Huge problem please help!!!

I'm having a the MAJOR CONUNDRUM here, and I don't know what toooooo dooooo=(
Currently I have a Sammy Focus WP7, and I'm pretty happy with it, for the most part, but a vixen named: Samsung Galaxy S II 4G, has been driving me crazy for a while now!! The galaxy S II has:
1) A larger screen 4.3 inch. B) Focus 4 inch
2) A super amoled + screen. B) Focus amold, not+
3) Has an 8 mega pixel rear camera, and a 2 mega pixel front facing camera, (then I could do face chat messaging) B) Focus- Only 5 mp rear facing camera
4) It has dual 1.2 ghz processors. B) Focus- Single core 1ghz processor
5) It shoots in 1080p HD. B) Focus shoots in 720 HD .
5) Its ultra thin, and light.
6) 4G. B) Focus 3G
7) Comes in silver, (and black). B) Focus - Black only
8) Mobile Wi-Fi hotspot (connect up to eight Wi-Fi deices). B) Focus ??
9) It has Samsung AllShare. B) Focus - No
10) It has an HTML browser. B) Focus - IE9
11) It has Adobe flash, (**HUGE ASSETT**) B) Focus - No
12) It has Radio Remote PVR. B) Focus - No
13) It has 1Gb ram. B) Focus - The same I believe
14) I believe this model also has, "swype"
Now I have been a loyal Microsoft/Windows customer since the beginning, (literally), and I'm fond of my focus, but I really could use a bigger screen etc. Plus Android phones seem 2 come out often, where as WP7 is very slow with new models, & features, 2 be perfectly honest. But I don't know if I should make the switch, and leave WP7, because I am fond of it, but a guy has to have all these things.
So come on guys, rally together and let me know what you all think I should do, because I am very on the fence!!
THANX EVERYONE
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The HTC Titan(WP7) and HTC Sensation XL(Android) are coming out. They both have 4"7inches screen. You can wait for them. Although it only has 480x800 res, but those who have them are saying its pretty. No one can really decide for you.

Get the Samsung Focus S. Problem solved.

Thanx for the replies guys, I really appreciate it =) The only thing I still see as an advantage is that the Galaxy II S has the duel processors, which is a huge advantage??
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WP7 is already fast and snappy with its single core processor.. why don't you wait for the samsung focus s? it has the same screen as the GS2 and camera too. and you get to keep the Windows Phone experience!
I'd imagine the only advantage of the dual core processor will be in apps and games
I am actually really tempted by the GS2 especially with Ice Cream Sandwich coming out soon.. might just wait for the GS3 or even get the Galaxy Nexus
But WP7 Mango is just so good and does everything I need (except for BBC iPlayer).. I may wait to see what "Apollo" brings before making a firm decision to stay or migrate

Why not just go to a store and spend a few hours fiddling with them. Specs are just specs. What matters is user experience. I think a few hours with a device will give you a whole lot more than reviewing specs. Most stores are fine with you playing with their devices, after all, they make money off of you buying their stuff. Why would they mind you giving their products so much time.

Thanx everyone for the suggestions, they were very helpful

[Q] Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S II?

So I have an iPhone 4S right now.
Long story short, I switched from iPhone 4 to Droid X2. Hated how sluggish the X2 was but LOVED the openness of Android. And returned it and switched to the 4S when it arrived.
I love the look of Ice Cream Sandwich and every preview shows it running incredibly smoothly. It felt as though Android was in beta before ICS, and that it's finally moved into Gold product stage.
I'm dying waiting for the Nexus and mainly want it because it will have Ice Cream Sandwich.
My question is, should I just get the Galaxy S II or should I wait another few weeks for the Nexus? I don't care that much about 4G LTE. I DO want ICS. I've been reading the forums and it seems the S II is closing to get an ICS ROM that's fully functional.
What does everyone think? Get the S II today or wait a few more weeks for the Nexus?

2 days ago I would have said get the SII. But as full reviews are coming out now, I would definitely wait for the Nexus. Other than ICS, it is reviewed as an all around better phone (minus the camera, which is better on the SII). I do not own an SII, but you are going to get some disgustingly bias comments from people who do. Like I said, I am basing this off of reviews from reputable sites.

Thanks!
I'm very tempted by the Nexus (and the reviews are awesome!) I just have no idea when it's going to arrive. This month? December 8?
I'm very tempted by the S II because I'm hearing it runs pretty much as well as the Nexus, ICS is almost ready to be released (through ROMs, I'm sure the "official" release is a ways away), and it's cheaper.
Tough decision. I'm tired of iOS though and want to move on to a grown up OS. I just don't want to keep waiting. Argh.

Yes I'm bias I own an SGS2 but just check the specs out, lower spec camera, amoled not amoled+, no guerilla glass! The only real plus the Nexus Galaxy has is vanilla ICS and the SGS2 will have ICS soon enough whether it be Sammy ICS or custom ROM ICS.
Look at the price difference for lower specs, are you willing to pay that much more just to have ICS early??
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Yes I'm bias I own an SGS2 but just check the specs out, lower spec camera, amoled not amoled+, no guerilla glass! The only real plus the Nexus Galaxy has is vanilla ICS and the SGS2 will have ICS soon enough whether it be Sammy ICS or custom ROM ICS.
Look at the price difference for lower specs, are you willing to pay that much more just to have ICS early??
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Better hardware, better software, better CPU, and I will quote the part about the display
"The other significant thing about the screen is its resolution. It’s a 720p HD Super AMOLED panel (full resolution 1280x720), similar to the display on the Samsung Galaxy Note. And just as we said in our review of that phone, this is about as good as it gets in terms of display technology on a portable device."
The only thing lower spec is the camera...this is a developer phone, who cares about the camera.

SGSII is better. The processor in the Galaxy Nexus is not as good as the ones in the world SGS2 or the Epic Touch. The only thing this phone has really is the higher resolution screen. Tit for tat it's ok, but not ground-breaking.
Why 5MP camera on a higher res than throwing in a better 8MP camera like the one on the SGS2
Plus the hype about the phone, and the true specs were a let down just to be able to run ICS. And as far as vanilla android all of the other makers have the ability to run stock android with out the company's UI.

I have used a Galaxy Nexus and the only thing I liked was the incredible screen. The rest was crap...including ICS.
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Hey, I am just going off of reviews from well known sites THAT HAVE TRIED BOTH PHONES! Until someone else chimes in that has in fact used both phones for more than 24 hours, your argument holds no ground. I have taken probably a total of 15 pictures with my phone in the past year, so I could really care less about the camera..

More reasons not to go with the Nexus, 16gb USB storage and NO SD card expansion.
No flash until Adobe support it later in the year!?!
And I meant SAMOLED and SAMOLED+.
FreeYourAndroid - Galaxy Nexus vs. SGS2: Camera Comparison - http://freeyourandroid.com/viewnews.php?fya=54932841321744858
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The question for me, I guess, is how close are we to having a working custom ICS rom for the S II? I like the specs of the S II better, and would prefer the smaller screen - I think 4.65" is pretty big.
I just want to be able to have ICS and not have to wait months and months for the Samsung official update with everything skinned. I want Vanilla android or something close to it, but would love it on the S II.

Interesting thread !
Since I keep questionning myself about the very same question at the moment, I'm constantly doing prons and cons game
Here is my observations so far :
Screen
Galaxy S II : smaller screen (4.3") but S-Amoled Plus and Gorilla Glass. No waste of screen since it got hardware buttons
Galaxy Nexus : bigger (4.6") not "plus" but more DPI and 720p, everyone accords to qualify it to sharper. Good for visioning (films etc)
CPU / GPU
Since the two got the same CPU (Cortex A9 dual core), let's take a look a the GPU
SGS2 : Mali 400Mp, strong for graphic features
SGN : PowerVR SGX540, not so good with graphic features
Here is a beanchmark comparison : http://www.anandtech.com/show/5133/galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-initial-performance
The choice of Google seems to go for user experience (general use, browsing etc). I don't think le GN is tailored to be a gaming beast for example
Hardware
The SGN doesn't have any micro-SD slot and can't do mass storage out of the box (but XDA dev are here for sure ), it's a Google choice to unify the storage : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
No notification LED for the SGS2 but got the jack above
Camera is better on SGS2 but since the captor on a mobile phone are not very good ... Can we really see a difference ?
So ?
So the choice is yours
The 2 devices are great, it really depends what you are seeking for
I don't speak about ICS since everyone here know it will come to the SGS2 soon
If you want a device for gaming, I say go for the SGS2
If you want a new device and a good big beautifull screen, pick the SGN
What do you think ?
EDIT : a usefull link to compare the 2 : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4219

VTHockey11 said:
The question for me, I guess, is how close are we to having a working custom ICS rom for the S II? I like the specs of the S II better, and would prefer the smaller screen - I think 4.65" is pretty big.
I just want to be able to have ICS and not have to wait months and months for the Samsung official update with everything skinned. I want Vanilla android or something close to it, but would love it on the S II.
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The 4.65 inch screen is a little misleading. Since there are no hardware buttons, the bottom part of the screen is dedicated for this. With that part of the screen gone, it is comparable to 4.3".

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The 4.65 inch screen is a little misleading. Since there are no hardware buttons, the bottom part of the screen is dedicated for this. With that part of the screen gone, it is comparable to 4.3".
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Yeah but the on screen buttons are hidden when you got a full screen app (videos, games, apps developpers set to fullscreen) so you got a real 4.65" screen for that

some food for thoughts about the Galaxy Nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556

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some food for thoughts about the Galaxy Nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
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Yea, quite a bit of issues. But it is to be expected with a newly released phone, and the SGSII has many of the same issues. One note about the volume bug issue (which I hear is the most predominent issue). That would not affect users in the United States. It only happens on an Edge network running a certain frequency that is not supported here.

Get it
As a person who went through this, then thought screw it, I'll take the leap.
GET THE NEXUS
It is an amazing phone and in my opinion equally to the SGSII better taken into account the software.
My main point was- I don't like the SII I much prefer the look and shape of the Nexus.
However the main plus point is the Camera and stock android.
No lag at all with the camera and no crappy touchwiz meaning that you don't HAVE to root to get rid of it.

Google nexus won´t have ICS, SG S II yes.

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Google nexus won´t have ICS, SG S II yes.
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Are you kidding with this post?

Camera question from S3 user

I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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If you have better lighting than the camera takes pretty decent pictured (better than my iPhone 4s), but when your in a low lightening area or dark rooms the camera is ****. Also no image stabilization it sucks beside that its a pretty decent camera as long as you can take pictures without shaking your hands lol. But rest of the phone quality wise is 200 times better than gs3

Well, every phone has its pro's and cons. I would first of all suggest you get the razr hd maxx, since you cant swap batteries. I assume you take lots of pictures, and that takes battery life.
As a new owner of a razr maxx HD, I can't answer your question directly. However I think the razr hd/maxx is superior to the gs3. My friends have had many more issues with screen cracking on the gs3 than the razr hd/maxx. The radio is much better in motorola devices compared to samsung. That is definitely a plus for uploading photos, txting, and making calls.
The camera on my samsung galaxy nexus definitely took pictures a lot faster. It was running 4.2.2 so I'm sure once the update comes out, maybe the camera speed will improve. Hope this influences your decision.

I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3, however with root & bootloader unlock (not that I recommend), I have installed and tested about 6 cameras apps:
4 from the Google store & 2 customized apk files. I plan to keep the nexus 4 4.2 version apk file & the Snap camera from Google play.
The 2 are producing better quality pictures than the stock camera (if you need fast camera install the burst camera from Google play).

itzik_man said:
Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3,....
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What do you mean exactly?

mpetruzz said:
I have an s3 but am considering a RAZR HD. I use the camera quite a bit and was wondering if anyone has had both phones and can give me an honest comparison.
Every review says if it wasn't for the camera it would be a better phone. Looking for some advice cause I love the build quality and feel.
Thanks.
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I came from the S2. I tested out the S3 quite a bit in the store as my wife was considering it. The camera on the S3 was really impressive with the number of shots it could take though I didn't take one home and see it in all conditions.
The only fair comparision I can make, though, is between the S2 and the RAZR HD. I would advise that if the camera quality is important, that the RAZR HD is NOT the phone for you. Samsung is, and has been, way ahead of what the RAZR is packing as far as photos go. The S3 is supposed to be much better than the S2 in respect of features and shutter speed at the very least, so I'd advise sticking with the Samsung and that's advice based on their S2 camera which is getting dated now. As much as people want to love their phone and think its the best, the camera is very much the weakest link on my phone. Its the only thing I miss about my S2.
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jfriend33 said:
What do you mean exactly?
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I think he means that the Samsung's S3's camera blows the RAZR HD's camera out of the water.

Is everybody using the Jelly Bean update? I know a lot of people on this forum have probably downgraded to ICS for Root reasons, but I have found the Jelly Bean stock camera is fantastic.
To prove my point, I had a Galaxy Note 2 (same or nearly the same camera as the S3) and I was flipping back and forth between the Razr HD and the Note 2. Finally after a lot of personal camera tests I sold the Note 2 because I think the Razr HD has a better camera.
Again, I am talking about ONLY the stock camera AFTER the Jellly Bean Update. Before this, on ICS the camera was a disaster. Now there are some other features of ICS I wish I had. For instance my speaker is much lower after the update and I can't root the phone any longer. I was rooted, and used Voodoo but my OTA update failed so I had to flash manually.
Anyway, if the camera is a deciding factor (and it was for me) get the Razr HD. All other things being relatively close, I think it is the better phone.

stiffi2011 said:
Is everybody using the Jelly Bean update? I know a lot of people on this forum have probably downgraded to ICS for Root reasons, but I have found the Jelly Bean stock camera is fantastic.
To prove my point, I had a Galaxy Note 2 (same or nearly the same camera as the S3) and I was flipping back and forth between the Razr HD and the Note 2. Finally after a lot of personal camera tests I sold the Note 2 because I think the Razr HD has a better camera.
Again, I am talking about ONLY the stock camera AFTER the Jellly Bean Update. Before this, on ICS the camera was a disaster. Now there are some other features of ICS I wish I had. For instance my speaker is much lower after the update and I can't root the phone any longer. I was rooted, and used Voodoo but my OTA update failed so I had to flash manually.
Anyway, if the camera is a deciding factor (and it was for me) get the Razr HD. All other things being relatively close, I think it is the better phone.
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After using the droid razr maxx hd for a few more days, my impressions of the camera are good. It takes pictures as quickly as the S3. Maybe we can post some pictures, one with natural light, one with artificial light, from both models and compare? I'm sure there are already some photos out there in reviews that let you compare.
Sounds like the update improved the camera a lot.

I'm wondering if my handset has a bad camera after reading other people's satisfaction with theirs.

PantsDownJedi said:
I'm wondering if my handset has a bad camera after reading other people's satisfaction with theirs.
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probaby depends on what you are taking pictures of. I should clarify, the camera still struggles with graininess in low light. I have yet to find a cell phone camera that does not, however. I was just pointing out that the biggest faults from the ICS update like the slow shutter and inability to focus at close range have been fixed in Jelly Bean
I think in daylight, or good indoor light, the camera is about as good as anything I've tried with the possible exception of the Pureview 808.
Just don't expect miracles.
For reference, over the last 24 months I have owned:
Iphone 4, Dell Streak 5 and 7, Galaxy Captivate, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Captivate Glide, Galaxy Note 1, and 2, HTC Amaze, LG Optimus 4x, Xperia Play, ION, X10 and X10 Mini, Pantech Flex, Nokia 808 Pureview, Motorola Backflip, Razr and now Razr HD

itzik_man said:
Honestly, there is no comparison.
The HD is not in the same league as the S3, however with root & bootloader unlock (not that I recommend), I have installed and tested about 6 cameras apps:
4 from the Google store & 2 customized apk files. I plan to keep the nexus 4 4.2 version apk file & the Snap camera from Google play.
The 2 are producing better quality pictures than the stock camera (if you need fast camera install the burst camera from Google play).
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Can you explain this? Are you saying that you put a nexus apk on your razr hd? Is the Snap camera the best that you've found for the HD?

notyourstar said:
Can you explain this? Are you saying that you put a nexus apk on your razr hd? Is the Snap camera the best that you've found for the HD?
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I've been searching for the 4.2.2 apk and haven't been able to find it. Can someone point me in the right direction?? Thanks!

jfriend33 said:
After using the droid razr maxx hd for a few more days, my impressions of the camera are good. It takes pictures as quickly as the S3. Maybe we can post some pictures, one with natural light, one with artificial light, from both models and compare? I'm sure there are already some photos out there in reviews that let you compare.
Sounds like the update improved the camera a lot.
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Here is a picture I took today at a pottery studio. Its natural light on auto mode. Notice the great colors and how the camera handles the light. You can see sun rays as well as shadows all in the same frame.
Once again this is full stock 4.1.2 ROM and camera app.