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Have to return A2 for replacement, question about bootstrap

So, I bricked my last A2 and had it replaced and the one they gave me is horrific (bunch of issues...). Anyway, I know I have to unroot, they will most certainly detect that. However, What about bootstrap? Do you think they will notice that when they bring it to the back to do their "troubleshooting"? Because I was just planning on unrooting and then uninstalling bootstrap app (incase they know what that is, i know that that wont remove they bootstrap). So, what are your opinions on that?

Fzx back to stock.
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tmease1 said:
Fzx back to stock.
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Yeah thats never worked out well for me...

okachowwa said:
So, I bricked my last A2 and had it replaced and the one they gave me is horrific (bunch of issues...). Anyway, I know I have to unroot, they will most certainly detect that. However, What about bootstrap? Do you think they will notice that when they bring it to the back to do their "troubleshooting"? Because I was just planning on unrooting and then uninstalling bootstrap app (incase they know what that is, i know that that wont remove they bootstrap). So, what are your opinions on that?
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Throw it in a microwave to kill it so it wont turn on.
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matt99017d said:
Throw it in a microwave to kill it so it wont turn on.
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Ever since I bought a Moto phone I feel the need to do that every day

okachowwa said:
Ever since I bought a Moto phone I feel the need to do that every day
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Lol.
Me too.....
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matt99017d said:
Lol.
Me too.....
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Horrible mistake. Live and Learn...unless youre a sophmore who doesnt have any money and is stuck with it for another year...omg.

okachowwa said:
Horrible mistake. Live and Learn...unless youre a sophmore who doesnt have any money and is stuck with it for another year...omg.
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My case lol
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Not sure if I'm completely off topic but don't want to start a new thread either: so does AT&T/Motorola salvage the bricked phones returned/exchanged under warranty? I understand if you microwave it, it's gone for good, but otherwise do they have a way to salvage a phone with hosed bootloader or hard bricking? Will it require special hardware setup to recover these phones? I am sure bricking would be a common phenomena in Moto's lab ...

OMG, just took a look at your sign - okachowwa - your smartphone's histories usage so terrible ...

vinamilk said:
OMG, just took a look at your sign - okachowwa - your smartphone's histories usage so terrible ...
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Dude's also only 15, which it states as well, and to cut the kid some slack!
Launched from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Anti-MOTO Ballistic Missile

vinamilk said:
OMG, just took a look at your sign - okachowwa - your smartphone's histories usage so terrible ...
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Hey now lol. I try I try. I totally fixed my Captivate...after I bought this AWESOME phone. But I didn't brick this one, it was a bad replacement, and my last one, yeah FXZ confused me so my ignorance overtook my ability to fix it, because I couldnt find the files on the forums (links were down) and flashed wrong ones (live and learn?). But yes, being a sophmore in high school I probably shouldn't being doing this stuff as I don't have any money lol.

kousik said:
Not sure if I'm completely off topic but don't want to start a new thread either: so does AT&T/Motorola salvage the bricked phones returned/exchanged under warranty? I understand if you microwave it, it's gone for good, but otherwise do they have a way to salvage a phone with hosed bootloader or hard bricking? Will it require special hardware setup to recover these phones? I am sure bricking would be a common phenomena in Moto's lab ...
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Yes, unless the EMMC is corrupted beyond redemption they have special flashing tools to restore phones to a usable condition. Just think about when the phone is made; it is a blank slate. They have to have a way to flash it initially. They can use a similar method to resurrect it if it is not damaged beyond repair.

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Yes, unless the EMMC is corrupted beyond redemption they have special flashing tools to restore phones to a usable condition.
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Hmmm ... that's exactly is my point; if it is all software, why doesn't it leak like RSDlite? Then users could recover these bricked phones themselves and no need of these warranty calls. It must be some special hardware (to be connected to JTAG?) which even our service centers do not have available. Then we could take our out of warranty phones to them and get it restored for a small fee. Now if I take a bricked phone to them, they change the motherboard and charge ~30% of the phone value.

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Hmmm ... that's exactly is my point; if it is all software, why doesn't it leak like RSDlite? Then users could recover these bricked phones themselves and no need of these warranty calls. It must be some special hardware (to be connected to JTAG?) which even our service centers do not have available. Then we could take our out of warranty phones to them and get it restored for a small fee. Now if I take a bricked phone to them, they change the motherboard and charge ~30% of the phone value.
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That is because there is an efuse that was blown as part of this process, and you can't unblow a fuse/efuse. That is why you are getting new boards. I was at one the AT&T service centers last week and we looked at one of the bricks, and it did throw 2 efuses that I could find. We could connect them to JTAG with the correct connetions, but we could NOT see the phone from the JTAG device/software.

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That is because there is an efuse that was blown as part of this process, and you can't unblow a fuse/efuse. That is why you are getting new boards. I was at one the AT&T service centers last week and we looked at one of the bricks, and it did throw 2 efuses that I could find. We could connect them to JTAG with the correct connetions, but we could NOT see the phone from the JTAG device/software.
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Is it not an inefficient (or dangerous (or suicidal)) design that if you overwrite the bootloader (even by an older version) then a efuse blows somewhere and the motherboard becomes useless. You may refuse to boot if the bootloader isn't trusted but killing the phone in the process sounds too bad to me. Would this happen with phones with unlocked bootloader too?

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Is it not an inefficient (or dangerous (or suicidal)) design that if you overwrite the bootloader (even by an older version) then a efuse blows somewhere and the motherboard becomes useless. You may refuse to boot if the bootloader isn't trusted but killing the phone in the process sounds too bad to me. Would this happen with phones with unlocked bootloader too?
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No, this is a Motorola ONLY thing, as inefficient as it might be. There is no need for anything like is in a unlocked bootloader phone. This happens because these phones are just like iphones in that Motorola does NOT want us "playing" with them, or doing any kind of dev work on them, Moto phones have a HUGE history of being non developer friendly. That is also why certain devs like me find them a challenge and want to "breakthrough" all that.

jimbridgman said:
No, this is a Motorola ONLY thing, as inefficient as it might be. There is no need for anything like is in a unlocked bootloader phone.
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Well, except their managers we all see how it backfired. It doesn't interfere with people who wants to stay stock, and if it gets bricked doing some dev, they get a warranty call (and maybe they have to swap in 90% cases). Doesn't help anyone.
However I had a Milestone before (why did I buy another Moto afterwards questions my sanity) but even if it had a locked bootloader (and after stock 2.1 no update was given), devs could port froyo and finally CM7 and CM9. I am hoping in spite of the lock, we'll be able to port CM9/10, keeping the kernel same. I am hopeful as LG Thrill 4G, Motorola Droid 3 has CM9 already.
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what does power button do normally on stock?

does it give power options like when rooted? my power button was sticking like crazy and then when i tried to pop it up the whole thing flew out...
want to know what to say to VZW when i call for replacement...ie my power button was sticking and i couldnt do anything cuz power options kept coming up
would that be correct?
thanks

I think it shows hibernate and airplane mode and reboot. Its been so long since I've seen it I can barely remember. I've been rooted since the day I got this phone lol.
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djcyph said:
does it give power options like when rooted? my power button was sticking like crazy and then when i tried to pop it up the whole thing flew out...
want to know what to say to VZW when i call for replacement...ie my power button was sticking and i couldnt do anything cuz power options kept coming up
would that be correct?
thanks
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I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
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heath2805 said:
I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
And it's just a standard menu on stock when holding power, nothing like a rooted custom from menu.
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heath2805 said:
I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
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yea def wont send back rooted...yea think ill say something like that, wont turn on all the time and when does shuts down cuz power button is in

yea i was curious to what the standard menu consisted of so i sounded more like i was on stock

I sent an Eris back rooted, s off and unlocked before and heard no complaints so you may get lucky but I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it.
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disconnecktie said:
I sent an Eris back rooted, s off and unlocked before and heard no complaints so you may get lucky but I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it.
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i know not to send back rooted, ive unrooted b4....just want to know whats on the stock power menu lol

Verizon can see if you are rooted and any custom rom or modified kernel you are using. They have full access to all the information in the "about phone" screen in settings. If they wanted to deny a warranty claim due to being rooted, all they would have to do is look on their systems and see what you were running.

bastards said they will charge me 300 something if i send back without the power button
if i jam it in am i screwed either way if i send it back since i already callled??
asurion only has tblolts id rather wait till they out of stock and get rezound

djcyph said:
bastards said they will charge me 300 something if i send back without the power button
if i jam it in am i screwed either way if i send it back since i already callled??
asurion only has tblolts id rather wait till they out of stock and get rezound
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Id call back and talk to a different person, then tell them the button fell out (you did not pop it out) if that dont work get escalated (talk to their manager.

Milimbar said:
Verizon can see if you are rooted and any custom rom or modified kernel you are using. They have full access to all the information in the "about phone" screen in settings. If they wanted to deny a warranty claim due to being rooted, all they would have to do is look on their systems and see what you were running.
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that sounds like a load of crap
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androidsupra said:
that sounds like a load of crap
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I agree. I have been over my about phone with Verizon several times and even returned rooted phones to them and they never said crap. I think they ask because they want to see if you're going to slip up and tell them some wrong information.
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that sounds like a load of crap
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+1 lol Verizon has no way to tell your rooted unless they have your phone in front of them. If they knew, you would be warned as soon as you root your device. Where do these people get their info?? Lol
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disconnecktie said:
I agree. I have been over my about phone with Verizon several times and even returned rooted phones to them and they never said crap. I think they ask because they want to see if you're going to slip up and tell them some wrong information.
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Yeah most of them don't really care anyway. I had a touch pro 2 from Sprint, first phone I ever rooted. I panicked because I had to send it back, didn't know how to re-lock! Finally after searching and reading and searching I figured it out! Lol
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They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.

Milimbar said:
They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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This is BS because if that's the case they would have made me pay full price on two different occasions for phones that were rooted when I sent them back.
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Milimbar said:
They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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Seeing the radio version doesn't tell any carrier that someone is rooted. Being rooted is software related not radio related. Not unless custom radios are around, which is not available for the tbolt and im sure not for any other phone for that matter.
The only info phones send to the network is account information so the tower knows whether or not to provide service. That's it.
If they knew more details about a device then they would have no reason to ask us about our phone. They wouldn't waste their time as the info would pop up on their computer screens. If they saw anything other than the latest official OTA, then they would tell you that they can't do anything and that you voided your warranty so even switching back to stock won't make them change their mind.
The fact they would "waste" time to find out every detail from you pretty much sums up that this info is NOT available to them. CSRs like to help the customer as quickly as possible to get them off the line and help the next. And at this moment, asking customers about their phones is the quickest way.
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So you think that those little forum signatures that can tell you what OS you are running, what browser and even your IP know more about your phone than your carrier?
Must be nice to be that gullible.
Think what you will, I know for a fact they can see the information. They literally don't care. The warranty is through another company and has nothing to do with Verizon. It is also perfectly legal to root your phone and do what you want with it as of July 26 2010 http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/26/rooting-android-phone-longer-crime/
The only thing it does is void any extended warranty you bought. So do restore to stock for returns to asurion and the likes.
They ask you because the lower tier CS people do not have access to your phone information, if you are escalated enough you will eventually find someone who can and will rattle off all your information to you.

If you can provide proof then I will take back what I said and apologize. I've played dumb before in the past just to see if it was possible for tier 2 and 3 (technical departments) to know this information. I simply stated that I didn't know how to access the about phone section. They tried to "help" me access this section and i pretended I was getting frustrated. I asked them to see if there was a way for them to see it on their systems and they told me no. They couldn't "help" me with my pretend issue unless I gave them this info. So all I was given was generic troubleshooting tips. They then stated to take it to the store for the CSR to look at my phone for the software version. I did this on a couple of occasions just to get a different Rep each time.
Yes, your mobile browser sends browser info to a website, and OS info. User agent strings are sent so that a website will know how to display the website on the browser. You can easily set the user agent to the stock HTC user agent. But this is irrelevant to Verizon as I can install different browsers on my phone which have unique user agents for each one. Just because my phone sends a dolphin user agent or maxathon user agent and not the stock HTC user agent, this does not imply I am rooted.
OS version is very easy to hack. You can edit this by going to the build.prop and change the OS version to the stock version and I'm sure there is a hack to fake the kernal (you might have to recompile the kernal to change the name)
All the IP address provides is the owner of the IP address (i.e. verizon) and in some cases, the general location of where the IP is being used. Verizon's LTE/EHRPD network use private IP addresses so it would be difficult to pin point a phone or information based on IP. This network uses Dynamic IPs so your IP will not be the same all the time. You have to pay extra to get a static address (business account). It is illegal to use an IP to gain access to any additional information unless a court order demands this.
The point of this is that you can pretty much make your rooted phone appear stock if it was really necessary to do so. Its a variant of Linux and Linux is very easy to work with if you know what you are doing.
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OS version is very easy to hack. You can edit this by going to the build.prob and change the OS version to the stock version and I'm sure there is a hack to fake the kernal (you might have to recompile the kernal to change the name)
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Yup, does anyone just randomly do this though?
Sorry to cause the topic to get sidetracked like this, I was just trying to point out that Verizon don't care if we root or not.

Milimbar said:
Yup, does anyone just randomly do this though?
Sorry to cause the topic to get sidetracked like this, I was just trying to point out that Verizon don't care if we root or not.
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If you can root your phone, then its a start. Your typical average user doesn't know what root means or even care what possibilities exist. I am pretty much the only person at my job who is rooted and I've had people ask me how I got my phone to look a certain way and they want their phone like this. When I explain the root process, they say screw that. Most people I know who are rooted know exactly what they can do with a rooted device. And new comers to rooting eventually pick up speed. Linux may be intimidating at first, but once you play around, you see how easy it is.
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Dust under screen cheap solution

Info for all those in UK with dust under their screen...
I went into a shop called fonesolutions today, website's here: http://www.fonesolutions.co.uk/
They offered to clear out all the dust for £15! I think im gona do it just before i sell the phone to add some value.
Just thought I'd share with u all

fredcorp6 said:
Info for all those in UK with dust under their screen...
I went into a shop called fonesolutions today, website's here: http://www.fonesolutions.co.uk/
They offered to clear out all the dust for £15! I think im gona do it just before i sell the phone to add some value.
Just thought I'd share with u all
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Why? HTC has 2 years warranty and will do it for free till the next MAY at least. If you request it NOW, it's unlikely they'll ask for a proof of purchase (they didn't ask me)

So your warranty isn't void then?
I wish there was a good equivalent in my area of the US.
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Deegan87 said:
So your warranty isn't void then?
I wish there was a good equivalent in my area of the US.
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Why would my warranty be void? It's within 2 years of warranty time.

tinky1 said:
Why? HTC has 2 years warranty and will do it for free till the next MAY at least. If you request it NOW, it's unlikely they'll ask for a proof of purchase (they didn't ask me)
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I know that but if you're s-off (most people on here are) your warranty is void and u can't send it to HTC. I know its possible to s-on and get back to stock but that's tricky and many don't want to go through all that
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fredcorp6 said:
I know that but if you're s-off (most people on here are) your warranty is void and u can't send it to HTC. I know its possible to s-on and get back to stock but that's tricky and many don't want to go through all that
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I've sent mine in with s-off but with stock ROM and firmware (run RUU and flashed all the subsequent updates). No problem. If they ask, just ask them what is s-off
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tinky1 said:
If they ask, just ask them what is s-off
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cunning reply lol

tinky1 said:
I've sent mine in with s-off but with stock ROM and firmware (run RUU and flashed all the subsequent updates). No problem. If they ask, just ask them what is s-off
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oh really! i might try that but not sure if its worth the risk.. cos they still have every right to just say that the devices warranty is void, then refuse to fix it and charge you the £30.00, or whatever it is, to send it back to you.

fredcorp6 said:
oh really! i might try that but not sure if its worth the risk.. cos they still have every right to just say that the devices warranty is void, then refuse to fix it and charge you the £30.00, or whatever it is, to send it back to you.
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THEY would have to prove that YOU s-offed it and it didn't come s-off out of the box. Don't worry.
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THEY would have to prove that YOU s-offed it and it didn't come s-off out of the box. Don't worry.
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And for the record, many Sensations did ship from the factory with S-off. So they have no possible way to prove you did it yourself.
Plus it's probably more expensive for them to argue about your software changes when you send in a hardware problem than it is to just fix the hardware problem. Especially since it's a known hardware problem that HTC fully admits to.
That said, there are numerous stories of people who've sent fully rooted phones to HTC with custom ROMs installed to have hardware problems fixed and the phone came back repaired just fine.
Does anyone know how long it takes to get your phone back from the time you send it to them?

In the Netherlands HTC has repair partners all over the country. I went in one of the shops and 1 hour later they called that my new screen was installed. Did not ask anything or check my phone.

I would assume that sending in a phone for this problem wouldn't matter if you're rooted since software can't get dust under your screen.
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Element515 said:
I would assume that sending in a phone for this problem wouldn't matter if you're rooted since software can't get dust under your screen.
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Rooting means you can mess with your clock speeds, messing with your clock speeds means you could have overheated it, overheating means distortion, distortion means gaps, gaps mean dust... Shall I continue?
Why give them ANY chance to be idiots and to refuse repair?
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tinky1 said:
Rooting means you can mess with your clock speeds, messing with your clock speeds means you could have overheated it, overheating means distortion, distortion means gaps, gaps mean dust... Shall I continue?
Why give them ANY chance to be idiots and to refuse repair?
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Esecailly since it's so incredibly easy to flash a stock ROM before sending it in which would mean they'd never notice something wasn't stock.
Yeahthe aftermarket recovery might still be there and it might be S-Off but I doubt the guy sitting at his desk fixing 25 phones a day is goign to notice those things when he's replacing a screen gasket to seal out dust. Now if he booted it and it said CYANOGENMOD and lacked Sense, it might stand out to him...
Also, did anyone know the answer to my last question? About how long it takes to get a phone back from HTC with the screen dust issue repaired? I'm in the USA as I assume where you start from makes a difference. Like the post above that says in the Netherlands there are shops that will fix it in an hour...I don't think I can do that here.

Skipjacks said:
Esecailly since it's so incredibly easy to flash a stock ROM before sending it in which would mean they'd never notice something wasn't stock.
Yeahthe aftermarket recovery might still be there and it might be S-Off but I doubt the guy sitting at his desk fixing 25 phones a day is goign to notice those things when he's replacing a screen gasket to seal out dust. Now if he booted it and it said CYANOGENMOD and lacked Sense, it might stand out to him...
Also, did anyone know the answer to my last question? About how long it takes to get a phone back from HTC with the screen dust issue repaired? I'm in the USA as I assume where you start from makes a difference. Like the post above that says in the Netherlands there are shops that will fix it in an hour...I don't think I can do that here.
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minus the shipping to get there (which you can change) for me its been about 3 days from them receiving it to them having it in repair to them getting ready to ship, dont know though if the screen is repaired but i did mention it as one of many things faulty with the device

This problem also started to develop on my phone. I wish we have repairs stores around the area I live (I also live in the US).
One question, do I have to pay for the shipping fee to ship the phone to them?

andyli1985 said:
This problem also started to develop on my phone. I wish we have repairs stores around the area I live (I also live in the US).
One question, do I have to pay for the shipping fee to ship the phone to them?
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yes you do
also and this very important, ship it in a box specifically made to ship small electronic items (was going to shiping it in something else) as they can void your warranty for breakage when shipping, thankfully i was told that before shipping the actual device so there was not much a problem...

darkassain said:
yes you do
also and this very important, ship it in a box specifically made to ship small electronic items (was going to shiping it in something else) as they can void your warranty for breakage when shipping, thankfully i was told that before shipping the actual device so there was not much a problem...
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Ok. Thank you.

Bought a bricked one S. Can I fix it?

Hey One S community. I hope this will be my new home. I currently have a Samsung galaxy vibrant so the One S would be a huge update (original snapdragon so the s4). Anyways, I bought a like new condition HTC one S which will not boot. Apparently the guy was attempting to unlock the boot loader and ended up wiping the phone. The phone will power up to the HTC screen so fast boot should be accessible. I'm hoping to reflash it with the T-Mobile RUU. I played 170$ for it. What are my odds of this phone being bricked forever?
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motitas said:
Hey One S community. I hope this will be my new home. I currently have a Samsung galaxy vibrant so the One S would be a huge update (original snapdragon so the s4). Anyways, I bought a like new condition HTC one S which will not boot. Apparently the guy was attempting to unlock the boot loader and ended up wiping the phone. The phone will power up to the HTC screen so fast boot should be accessible. I'm hoping to reflash it with the T-Mobile RUU. I played 170$ for it. What are my odds of this phone being bricked forever?
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Can you get into bootloader? Hold Vol- when turning it on if you didn't know.

You paid 170 for a bootlooped phone? I couldn't even sell a new in box for 200 on craigslist lol
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Darknites said:
Can you get into bootloader? Hold Vol- when turning it on if you didn't know.
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Waiting to see if I can. Is there any known situations where you wouldn't be able to? (assuming hardware is perfect). The guy claims that he can get into the bootloader and I can't see any situations where I couldn't fix it. If there is something he didn't tell me I should be fine as eBay buyer protection says that all his comments on the sale must be "in good faith" and not sneaky.
this was his item description: The phone is soft bricked, it will only boot to the htc logo. The bootloader needs to be re-locked in order to get it working. The phone is in excellent condition with no signs of wear, no charger included.
Spastic909 said:
You paid 170 for a bootlooped phone? I couldn't even sell a new in box for 200 on craigslist lol
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Sure wish I had seen your ad then . There seems to be a real bubble on the pricing of these phones. Check out ebay, for anything in new condition it is 300+ and anything with heavy use or moderate scratching is in the 230-250 range. I thought 170$ for a phone that seems a likely fix and is in mint condition is pretty good. I've always admired the One S as a phone anyways. Oh and the nexus 4 is out of stock all the time. here is some ebay reference, these are the last few One S's sold, I am the 165$: http://www.ebay.com/csc/Cell-Phones...Sold=1&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=htc+one+s

Can you load anything to memory from computer? If so you need to relock bootloader and flash ruu. There are guides here that explain what to do. On my phone and there is more to type than my pointer finger had the energy for on this phone
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motitas said:
Waiting to see if I can. Is there any known situations where you wouldn't be able to? (assuming hardware is perfect). The guy claims that he can get into the bootloader and I can't see any situations where I couldn't fix it. If there is something he didn't tell me I should be fine as eBay buyer protection says that all his comments on the sale must be "in good faith" and not sneaky.
this was his item description: The phone is soft bricked, it will only boot to the htc logo. The bootloader needs to be re-locked in order to get it working. The phone is in excellent condition with no signs of wear, no charger included.
Sure wish I had seen your ad then . There seems to be a real bubble on the pricing of these phones. Check out ebay, for anything in new condition it is 300+ and anything with heavy use or moderate scratching is in the 230-250 range. I thought 170$ for a phone that seems a likely fix and is in mint condition is pretty good. I've always admired the One S as a phone anyways. Oh and the nexus 4 is out of stock all the time. here is some ebay reference, these are the last few One S's sold, I am the 165$: http://www.ebay.com/csc/Cell-Phones...Sold=1&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=htc+one+s
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Like Spastic909 says a RUU should fix that.

Spastic909 said:
Can you load anything to memory from computer? If so you need to relock bootloader and flash ruu. There are guides here that explain what to do. On my phone and there is more to type than my pointer finger had the energy for on this phone
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yeah don't worry, I've read up quite a bit and I know what my options are. I'm already prepped for the arrival of the phone and have installed the htc drivers and downloaded the RUU. I also know how to lock the bootloader. My real question right now is if you know of any scenarios where while being able to go into the bootloader the phone was unsalvagable. I'll return with results once it arrives

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yeah don't worry, I've read up quite a bit and I know what my options are. I'm already prepped for the arrival of the phone and have installed the htc drivers and downloaded the RUU. I also know how to lock the bootloader. My real question right now is if you know of any scenarios where while being able to go into the bootloader the phone was unsalvagable. I'll return with results once it arrives
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Has long its only a software fault and can get to bootloader then it should be fine.

Yeah what he/she said ( don't take offense as I don't know your sex lol) as long as the phone and screen power on its not a hard brick and shouldn't have any issues
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Yeah what he/she said ( don't take offense as I don't know your sex lol) as long as the phone and screen power on its not a hard brick and shouldn't have any issues
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A he lol

should be able to revive it.
but, you paid too much for the phone.
got mine brand new for $150, plus $75 gift card thrown in for a local grocery store.

ippon said:
should be able to revive it.
but, you paid too much for the phone.
got mine brand new for $150, plus $75 gift card thrown in for a local grocery store.
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On contract? I bought the phone unlocked. If you got it new unlocked for that price, tell me where cause I'll take 3. On eBay they seem to be going for 300ish new. Moreover thanks for the help guys. Seems like a great community I'll be back with results!
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Time to double post for a statu update so I go the phone and got it running within and hour. checked the IMEI with t mobile and everything. Mint condition. What's the most vanilla jellybean rom I can go to? thanks.

Vanilla like cm10 with no sense, or the virtuous with sense and jb?

I'd say vanilla CM10 no paranoidandroid or anything. I tend to be a purist. if theres any other aosp roms that'd be good too. also how's the state of android 4.2? can you direct me to the right threads?

There is an unofficial for 4.2 but I'd go with the mist recent nightly here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1799139

Thanks. I ended up going with cm10 because while I loved 4.2 on my vibrant, camera is important to me. great phone so far. The amoled screen is a little of putting with the colorful edges on the text.

motitas said:
On contract? I bought the phone unlocked. If you got it new unlocked for that price, tell me where cause I'll take 3. On eBay they seem to be going for 300ish new. Moreover thanks for the help guys. Seems like a great community I'll be back with results!
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it was a deal during christmas. locked to virgin mobile in canada. i'm with another carrier. bought it for $0 on contract and it was $150 fee to break contract. and unlocked for $1.50 on ebay. sold out everywhere now.

[Q] Where is the "storage" in skyrocket? (hardware)

my phone has been hard bricked. repair costs like $50, im not going to repair it.
im going to sell my skyrocket i727 to someone, but he only need the screen.
but i have some emails attached to google play in that phone, im worried he might get access to the applications and emails.
i have also pattern type lock screen.
im planning to destroy the "storage" hardware in it, hard disk?
so anyone give me hint where does all the data is saved? so i can destroy it.

There isn't a hard disk it's an emmc chip attached to the mobo.
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oh, so all the data is saved on emmc chip, is there a guide on how to remove it ?
all i want is to destroy the data in my phone, so the new owner cannot access anything except the screen.

hell911 said:
oh, so all the data is saved on emmc chip, is there a guide on how to remove it ?
all i want is to destroy the data in my phone, so the new owner cannot access anything except the screen.
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How about just taking the motherboard out before you sell it? Or...take the screen off and just sell it. Easy!
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im not cellphone hardware guy, i need to watch some videos first before i do it.
i need to ask the guy if he would accept motherboardless phone.

hell911 said:
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im not cellphone hardware guy, i need to watch some videos first before i do it.
i need to ask the guy if he would accept motherboardless phone.
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If you're not handy or not willing then don't ask. Otherwise you have the whole world wide web and libraries at your disposal.

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who said that im not willing.

hell911 said:
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who said that im not willing.
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Why don't you quote instead of typing arrows? Lmao.
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coz it's more convenient.
(to each his own)

hell911 said:
coz it's more convenient.
(to each his own)
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If someone else responds before you then your posts make no sense and no one knows what you're responding to.
It's there for a reason, use it.
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xcrazydx said:
If someone else responds before you then your posts make no sense and no one knows what you're responding to.
It's there for a reason, use it.
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but that's not the case here.