I haven't really found anything solid about this, but I habitually (like conventional wisdom really) keep my mobile data off until I actually need it, then it's off again. And the only substantial difference I've found is that the cpu jumps around alot while connected. But what are your guy's thoughts on this?
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Use juice defender. It does that by itself.
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Androideka5 said:
I haven't really found anything solid about this, but I habitually (like conventional wisdom really) keep my mobile data off until I actually need it, then it's off again. And the only substantial difference I've found is that the cpu jumps around alot while connected. But what are your guy's thoughts on this?
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Well I think it depends. If you turn off data and continue to use the phone, then you're probably saving some battery. If you turn off data, then turn off the screen and let the phone drop into deep sleep, the savings in battery is probably negligible.
It also depends on your area as well. I always turn my data off when I am around any wifi. I get substantially better battery life
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For the entire time I owned a smartphone (two years), everyone says to disable GPS to save battery and enable it only when you need it. I been doing this the entire time and just now I read a post somewhere in these forums that only when a program needs GPS, it'll affect battery life. If this is the case, then I'll just leave GPS enabled.
So the question is, if GPS is left enabled but no program uses it, is battery life affect?
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For the entire time I owned a smartphone (two years), everyone says to disable GPS to save battery and enable it only when you need it. I been doing this the entire time and just now I read a post somewhere in these forums that only when a program needs GPS, it'll affect battery life. If this is the case, then I'll just leave GPS enabled.
So the question is, if GPS is left enabled but no program uses it, is battery life affect?
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I keep mine on and i get about 14-16 hours mild to wild use... I think it only drains if a program useless running it... dunno tho
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unless you see the gps icon in the status bar it isn't using any battery.
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unless you see the gps icon in the status bar it isn't using any battery.
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Awesome, I'll be leaving mine enabled.
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I leave mine enabled and dont notice any major difference in battery life over leaving it off.
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shilent said:
For the entire time I owned a smartphone (two years), everyone says to disable GPS to save battery and enable it only when you need it. I been doing this the entire time and just now I read a post somewhere in these forums that only when a program needs GPS, it'll affect battery life. If this is the case, then I'll just leave GPS enabled.
So the question is, if GPS is left enabled but no program uses it, is battery life affect?
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Right, if nothing calls the GPS then it uses no battery so really there is no reason to disable the GPS at all.
Is it worth it?
I use the free version and swear by it. I have exceptional battery life when using Juice defender. I have gone 16/17 hours before without needing to charge with moderate phone use. The only difference between the free and the charge version is that on the pay version you can create your own profiles. I just use the standard profile and it is awesome. Download the free version and give it a try.
Totally worth it.
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thanks, I'll ive t a try. I read some palces it does mroe harm than good
How does turning the data off, then turning it on every 15 minutes do more harm than good?
I use it if I'm in a 4G area or really trying to stretch the battery out. It does work wonders!
I use the free version and notice the gains. usually see about a twenty percent gain
Absolutely, although I have a strange issue with the service getting killed since I got the G2x, still love the app though. I have UltimateJuice btw
i bought the ultimate version and i never know how to do the settings so i ended up giving up on it.. and just manually turn wifi off and 2g on when i stop using the phone >_>
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i bought the ultimate version and i never know how to do the settings so i ended up giving up on it.. and just manually turn wifi off and 2g on when i stop using the phone >_>
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I installed the free version and it unstablized my phone. There are some Wifi apps that will turn off your wifi, when you leave your home automatically. Search WOOFI in marketplace. Or Auto Wifi Enabler.
Ya I had issues with reboots and instability while using the free version, it would also cause GPS to shut off and I would need a reboot to get it back. Just as easy to toggle it my self.
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Ya I had issues with reboots and instability while using the free version, it would also cause GPS to shut off and I would need a reboot to get it back. Just as easy to toggle it my self.
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I uninstalled also. I was having issues receiving POP email in a timely manner. I had it set to check every half hour but sometimes four or five hours would go by then a ton of emails would flood in. I am going to spring for the next step up because you have more control over individual apps and how they connect. I will post back with results.
for those saying it works wonders are you saying this as someone who keeps wifi and gps on all the time? wifi crunches the battery so if all this does is periodically turn it on and off it's not going to do much for me. i only turn it on when i need it.
Has anyone ever heard of an instance where the display drains the battery while off? 4 hrs on battery, display using 54%, all others using 4% or less, and display off 85% of the time. 20% remaining.
Just curious. Probably gonna GR then reflash
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Your display is always going to use a large portion of battery. Being on battery for only 4 hours may be misleading. Let your phone run through most of the charge and check again.
As you continue to use it, other apps and services will contribute to battery drainage, in turn lowering the percentage of juice shown used by your display.
Im not trying to imply you are wrong. You may have an issue, and I could be way off base. Just something to think about.
Edit: I re-read your post. It ran through 80% of your battery in 4 hours with minimal use?
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Your display is always going to use a large portion of battery. Being on battery for only 4 hours may be misleading. Let your phone run through most of the charge and check again.
As you continue to use it, other apps and services will contribute to battery drainage, in turn lowering the percentage of juice shown used by your display.
Im not trying to imply you are wrong. You may have an issue, and I could be way off base. Just something to think about.
Edit: I re-read your post. It ran through 80% of your battery in 4 hours with minimal use?
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Thanks. I was actually just seeing if this has ever happened to anyone before. There has to be something wrong. Just a one day fluke I guess cause today it seems to be going ok so far. I'm just gonna start from scratch and try again.
Tried to thank you for responding, but alas, I am limited to 8 per day. I'll get you tomorrow.
My display also drains a large portion of my battery, but never THAT much. Is your brightness really high at all times? If so, turn it down.
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This happens to me too
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This happens to me too
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Your battery dies really fast while display is off?
The day I posted it was dying super fast. I have not changed anything and it seems to be better but still draining pretty fast. Running better batt stats app for a few days to see if I can catch what's doing it.
Someone in anton's kernel thread said that the first few charges went great but all of a sudden it's draining fast. This is what happened to me. I'll report back what I find out with the app.
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Your battery dies really fast while display is off?
The day I posted it was dying super fast. I have not changed anything and it seems to be better but still draining pretty fast. Running better batt stats app for a few days to see if I can catch what's doing it.
Someone in anton's kernel thread said that the first few charges went great but all of a sudden it's draining fast. This is what happened to me. I'll report back what I find out with the app.
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Yup, it'll show that it's using 50% of display, even on days I don't really use my phone. I have better batt but can't seem to find out what's using it
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Yup, it'll show that it's using 50% of display, even on days I don't really use my phone. I have better batt but can't seem to find out what's using it
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Seems to me that the phone is having a hard time going to sleep soon after use, wifi may be keeping it awake. i have wifi on all day while im at work and the awake time seems to be higher right when i get into work. doesnt sleep for the first few hours.
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Seems to me that the phone is having a hard time going to sleep soon after use, wifi may be keeping it awake. i have wifi on all day while im at work and the awake time seems to be higher right when i get into work. doesnt sleep for the first few hours.
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I don't use wifi and my brightness is low. It is a mystery lol
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Hey guys I would just like ppl opinion on the various battery saving apps that are available on the market.
Do you think they actually work? best apps(in your opinion) and best configuration to save most battery.
I have juice defender and and it always says that it is saving me somewhere around 1.6 but I'm not totally sure that that is the case.
I have not had it installed for the last couple of days and my battery doesn't seem to be noticeable y worse than when it was installed
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I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
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I have stopped using them. I have think it depends in how a person uses their phone to start with. All of those options, can be done manually. I personally got tires of switching to different profiles for what I was doing. I haven't noticed much difference myself.
but, that is just my experience.
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Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
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Yes well that's the way I'm going I think. They taking up space and memory on phone and not really getting any noticeable benefit from having them installed.
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They do keep us occupied ...... for about a week. That's worth something I guess.
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The battery on my phone is going iPhone-ish, I need one of the battery saving apps, Are there any decent ones yet?
I would try Bataria from the market. Its free, and doesn't use much resources to do its job. I think the best is to manually adjust different settings on your phone. Same results, nothing running in the background to do it.
I am using Greenpowe.
Battery apps are usually crap. The only ones that really work are the ones that modify how your phone's software works. And those almost always require root access.
If by chance you are rooted, I recommend SetCPU, Autostarts and Autokiller. SetCPU will allow you to set profiles such as throttling while the screen is off, which will save you a ton of battery. Autostarts will stop custom apps from starting with your phone's OS, which leads to less background processes. And Autokiller will ensure that you have plenty of free memory for less tasks being killed and restarted. That alone has the potential to make a huge difference in your battery life.
I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
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I'm not trying for snarky, but
An app can't save battery by running
But you can save battery by turning something off
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I totally agree.
My uncle uses juice defender, but I think it's better for the battery to manage everything yourself.
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yeah I've been using Juice Defender. It does save some battery life.
If you have a horrible phone like mine, juice defender ultimate works wonders. My LG optimus m gets about 12 hours of life without it, and about 18 hours with it.
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On my OG EVO I used juice defender plus and it helped out greatly. Saw 1.8x a couple of times. On the new EVO LTE I don't use a thing and it keeps going and going and going...
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I can't seem to figure out the difference between the screen being on and the device being awake... I thought they were the same thing?
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Screen on is the screen is physically on. Awake is the processor is running an apps are using power. You wouldn't want awake to be a lot unless your screen is on a lot. If it is, that means something is running while your screen is off(wake lock). Typically resulting in a bad battery drain.
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Screen on is the screen is physically on. Awake is the processor is running an apps are using power. You wouldn't want awake to be a lot unless your screen is on a lot. If it is, that means something is running while your screen is off(wake lock). Typically resulting in a bad battery drain.
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What apps are known for running in wake lock? Is it a system problem?
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if i remember correctly, better battery stats is a highly recommended app for monitoring wakelocks/battery usage
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if i remember correctly, better battery stats is a highly recommended app for monitoring wakelocks/battery usage
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I've heard of GSam as well as better battery stats, and then being differently priced, is there a key difference or advantage to one or the other? Dropping a buck more for better battery doesn't bother me, I just don't wanna have to buy both in the end.
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Better battery stats is very powerful, it reads pretty much everything. It will take a bit of research to understand all of its functions though. It also uses root permissions to dig deep into the kernels power consumption. If you really don't want to donate (pay), the paid version is available in the apps section for free for xda members.
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Better battery stats is very powerful, it reads pretty much everything. It will take a bit of research to understand all of its functions though. It also uses root permissions to dig deep into the kernels power consumption. If you really don't want to donate (pay), the paid version is available in the apps section for free for xda members.
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Where is this apps section?