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[UTIL][Version 1.1 Beta]TouchWatch (Touch designed timer application)[ONLINE]

Hi,
I want to contribute my first application written in VS2005 VB.NET Compact Framework.
.NET Compact Framework must be installed on your device. Application needs around 700kb of memory.
This is a simple timer application with four configurable countdown timers. Set an description and a time (hh:mm:ss) and stop/start/reset timer with your fingers only. No need to use the stylus pen.
Touch the timer ones will start it. Touch it twice will stop it. Tap&Hold the timer will reset it. Needs no more explanation. The app is self explaining.
You can change the background image
You can change the audio wave notification file
You will get an vibrating response from your device on start/stop/reset timer
If a timer is running your device will not enter standby/sleep until all running timers count zero (configurable). If you want to use a long timer be aware of battery usage. Be sure that your backlight switches off after some time. If your device switch off for any reason, you will not be notified that a timer count zero. The application isn't able to switch your device on.
Settings are stored in registry "HKLM\Software\M_G\TouchWatch" and all configurable from the application.
THIS IS A BETA RELEASE FOR TESTING...QVGA ONLY...NO LANDSCAPE MODE...
Installation: Just copy the .cab to your device and execute it. You will find an icon in the start menu.
Version history:
v1.1b: -edit timer window now opens with buttons instead with the menu.
-added vibrate response features
v1.0b: first release (beta)
TODO:
Add stopwatch functionality
Use gestures to reset and edit timer
D-Pad support (maybe)
Landscape support (maybe)
Source code
You will find the source code of the project as attachment. You are allowed to enhance this or use this as example or whatever.
Support me with a donation for future developments
Thank you!
New version is released!
Check out the version 2 of Touchwatch here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457843
Have fun.

GREAT
nice to hear that its ur 1st application.....any ways i will test it and let u know further....thanks in advance

hello,
nice app! can i make a suggestion ?
it would be great if you could add d-pad control! since then we could use this app on non-touchscreen devices (smartphones) also.
thank you in advance!

Hi lopez1_de
Very nice program, been looking for something like this, but havn't found anything quite as nice as this.
Keep up the good work
Flemming

That is exactly what I was looking for for workouts in the gym.
Good work, lopez1_de!!!
Suggestions:
- Typo in options menu: should be "off", not "of"
- Some feedback when you start a timer would be nice, so you don't have to watch the seconds in order to see if it's running. Maybe a short vibrate or the timer's panel flashing.
- Maybe a left-right sweep across a timre's panel yould open that timer's configuration screen?
Thanks for that program.
Cheers,
nc

Good application, but I wish to have it without new .NET! .NET is slow and use my memory very much!

thanks
Thank you all for suggestions and ideas. Nice to hear that you like it. I will try to implement the following things into the next version:
Feedback on start/stop/reset
Config button for each timer
bye
EDIT: In the moment I have no ideas how to implement d-pad control.

Please test the new version 1.1b of TouchWatch.
Have a nice day... (it's sunny in germany)

pi3ch said:
Good application, but I wish to have it without new .NET! .NET is slow and use my memory very much!
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Yes, I know about it. But I'm only a hobby programmer. I'm not able to write C code.
But the speed of the timer on my Elf is perfect. The only little problem is that the application uses ~840kb of memory while running.

V1.1 is near perfection in my mind. Wonderful little app.
I've been searching for these exact features for a while now.
Thanks a lot!

darthy said:
V1.1 is near perfection in my mind. Wonderful little app.
I've been searching for these exact features for a while now.
Thanks a lot!
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Thank you!
It's great to hear that somebody else uses this little peace of software.

Hi, I tried your app, thanks very much: very usefull!!!!

Excellent work.
This is now the prgogram i use when I time the breaks in between sets when i work out.
On my screen everything except the timers' digits and the icon for the timers' configs is black.
I'm pretty sure it's due to my extensive Wm6 customization, though, so it's not a bug. I guess your program uses wm5/6s BaseHue color derivation to paint itself?
Would you mind sharing your source code? Maybe I can help cut down on memory usage?
I have no experience programming C#, though, but I have done quite a lot of Java, and I recently got hold of Visual Studio 2005 Pro to start mobile development.
Ignore the transparent top bar, that is also due to my customization.
Cheers,
nc

netzcoyote said:
Excellent work.
This is now the prgogram i use when I time the breaks in between sets when i work out.
On my screen everything except the timers' digits and the icon for the timers' configs is black.
I'm pretty sure it's due to my extensive Wm6 customization, though, so it's not a bug. I guess your program uses wm5/6s BaseHue color derivation to paint itself?
Would you mind sharing your source code? Maybe I can help cut down on memory usage?
I have no experience programming C#, though, but I have done quite a lot of Java, and I recently got hold of Visual Studio 2005 Pro to start mobile development.
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Ignore the transparent top bar, that is also due to my customization.
Cheers,
nc
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Hi.
PDA customizing. A never ending story...
To paint the graphics I had to override the OnPaint event. The lines and timer text are drawn correct. The bitmap should be visible also. Maybe you have selected an incorrect path to the file or maybe you selected another image format than .BMP.
The code is very basic. No big problem to code something like this for a hobby programmer. I use a variable which holds the seconds...then there is a timer control which ticks every second and increment the variable. Then convert the seconds to a time string and display it on the screen. Now capture OnClick events and get the X,Y coords of the stylus to check where the user clicked at. Then I used OpenNetCF for the vibrate features. Thats it.

Nice program, would be even nicer if you could ad a stopwatch functionality also. So not just a countdown but also a count-up?
Keep up the good work!

Great app. Great for boiling eggs and what not..
/Psudo

Chris1974 said:
Nice program, would be even nicer if you could ad a stopwatch functionality also. So not just a countdown but also a count-up?
Keep up the good work!
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yes, stopwatch feature would be nice. I will add this to the TODO list.

just curious to know which tool did you use to create it ?

nik_for_you said:
just curious to know which tool did you use to create it ?
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It's written in VB.NET with Visual Studio 2005.

Great! Thank you for the nice app!!! Continue your efforts!!! (Maybe, you could add a chronograph as an option?)

Development help with smali & java source for long-press-recent-apps (NOT home) remap

Development help with smali & java source for long-press-recent-apps (NOT home) remap
Sorry to bother everyone with this thread but I was looking for some coding help and I'm not sure who has the relevant knowledge on this.
Over the last few days I've been looking in more detail into the remapping of recent apps to long-press-home mod as I wanted to figure out a way to remap recent apps to long-press-recent-apps instead of long-press-home, which would make more sense to me.
I've managed to decompile and part-convert to Java code the PhoneWindowManager class so I could make more sense of it and going thorough the code I've noticed that the remapping of recent apps to long-press-on-home is done by piggybacking on the existing method that handles the long-press-on-home. (Actually this is the way Google have designed it to work and not the way HTC have changed it.) While I was looking at that, I also noticed that the current mod also brakes the default action that is set in the stock HTC ROM - something to do with voice commands when plugged into a car dock?...
Anyway, the point is that there is no pre-defined method to handle long-press-recent-apps so this would have to be done from scratch. Now the problem is that I have no idea how this is done or if it is possible to define at all.
If anyone could help I would really appreciate it. Plus, I'm sure there are quite a few people out there who would like to have this functionality.
Thanks

+1.
I would go further, maybe set:
Long-press back > force close app
Long-press home > toggle keyboard
Long-press recent apps > recent apps
also, and I'm just curious, is there a way to toggle double-tap soft-keys? That would be sweet. ;-p
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If we set functions to double tap, there would be a delay after we tapped every button before something happened, because it would have to wait to check if It's single or double tap. So I wouldn't recommend it
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Great call.
But what if you set it to a quick double-Tap? Like a 5ms delay?
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Because humans can't tap twice in a 5ms internal lol. That is insane.
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Just saying, if you can do a double-click with a mouse, you should be able to with your finger. ;-p
But I don't want to derail the goal of this post, I'd love to figure out the long press for stock odex rom. And the more we can understand, the more developers we have asking "how can we", and that's the whole goal, right?
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Just thought I should mention that I do have quite a bit of experience in C++ and Java programming but I have no experience with the Android environment and that's where I need some help.
If someone could explain to me how the bits I'm interested in fit together in Android I'm sure I'd be able to do all the programming. The problem is that I don't have the time to read all the Android documentation and go through all the source code to get up to speed with all the relevant aspects so I would need some help to get a head start on it.
Also, in response to some of the requests:
- I don't think double tap is a good idea on keys that are expected to perform a single tap function which is unrelated to the double tap function. Basically, the way the singe click / double click works with the mouse is that the double click is an additional function to what the single click does so that the system can process the single click action straight away and then wait to see if a second click was performed in the relevant timeframe - i.e. a double click on an icon in order to start an aplication involves selecting the icon first and then launching the application the icon links to. If you look at it carefully you'll see that the action of a double click is actually made up of the action of a single click (i.e. select icon) plus an additional action which is performed once the second click is detected (i.e. launch application). So the only way you can implement a double tap on a button which also has a single tap assigned to it is if the second tap performs an action that is additional to the first tap. Otherwise, as Habarug already mentioned, we would introduce a lag as the system would have to wait for a given time to decide whether it was a single tap or a double tap and only then perform the relevant action. You may say that double taps are already implemented in Android but if you actually look at each and every situation where they are used you will see that they either fit the description I've given above or they are used in a situation where a single tap would not perform any action. The only exception is in the internet browser - i.e. a double tap performs a zoom-in / zoom-out, whereas if you single tap on a link it follows the link, which is an action unrelated to the double tap. However, if you look closely you will realize that this is actually handeled the same as explained with the single-click / double-click - i.e. if you try to double tap on a link you will see that the link actually gets selected but the browser does not follow the link and instead performs a zoom-in / zoom-out. So, how does this work then? Well, very simple, a lag is in fact intoduced on all single taps in the browser! Have you noticed how when you tap on a link the browser does not follow it straight away but instead just sits there doing nothing for a split second and then performs the action? If you don't believe me just try it yourself, you'll notice it. What the system does is that it performs the bit of the single tap action which is 'safe' to perform (i.e. select the link) but then it waits to see whether it was a single or a double tap before it performs the 'unsafe' part of the action (i.e. follow link or zoom-in / zoom-out). I say 'unsafe' because this bit of the action depends on what the user has actually done, i.e. single tap or double tap, so the system cannot go ahead and perform it until it knows for sure what the user actually wants, whereas the 'safe' action is something the system can perform regardless as it will not impact on what the user is doing as the 'unsafe' action would. So I guess the whole point is, do you want to have a lag on your capacitive buttons or not? My guess is that you don't want a lag on your buttons whereas in the internet browser a lag is assumed to be acceptable.
- implementing long-press actions on all capacitive buttons would be nice but we have to start somewhere so we need to set some targets, i.e. long press on recent apps for starters and then we can look at other things. Otherwise we risk loosing the plot.

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Team venom has done longpress of both recent and back capacitive buttons with their tweaks.

SteelH said:
Team venom has done longpress of both recent and back capacitive buttons with their tweaks.
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Why did you bump this dead thead? And Team Venom is not supporting the One S right now.

[App] Write - a word processor for handwriting

Write is a word processor for handwriting, available for Android 3.0 and later and Windows tablet PCs. Write is similar to other Android notetaking applications but provides a unique set of tools which ease the editing of handwritten text by grouping strokes into lines, much like typed text in a word processor.
Write supports the S-Pen, although Samsung reserves the pen button for system-wide gestures.
Free on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.styluslabs.write
Features:
* tools: draw, erase, select, insert space, and add bookmark
* move strokes and insert space in multiples of the page's ruling
* reflow handwritten text with the insert space tool
* insert bookmarks and label them with handwriting
* cut, copy, paste selection
* unlimited undo/redo jog dial
* pan/zoom with two fingers
* customize and save pens
* user defined page size, color, and ruling
* pages can grow automatically as you write
* split screen with web browser to take notes from web pages or videos
* html/svg document format viewable in any modern web browser
* export or send document as single html file or all documents as zip file
* view thumbnails as a grid or list; drag and drop to change list order
Comments, bug reports, and feature requests can be posted to this thread; I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
-- Matt

I like this app so far. I only tested it for a few mins. I will give it the full court press for a week or so and report back.
right off the bat I like the add space function.

This program is tiny but powerful to write down somethings as its name. Consider about the saved files to exchange in other non-glaxay-note tablet or phones, even on computers, at least it's very easy to share the notes.
For me, some points to wish to add and I'll say it's perfect.
One thing is about bar buttons, add the function on the icon click to move certain lines and press to move to next page.
Second is, how about use different color on every 10th line, or add a small number at every 10th line? It well be helpful for user to identify the position of the note easily.
The last thing is the sync function, although I use dropsync to do this job. But still a build-in sync is a welcoming function.
Thank you for your hard work to make note-taking as easy as on paper!

I've tried it.
Main thing is that, if I'm not wrong, there's no pen pressure sensitivity.
Otherwise it could be very interesting.

I like some features of this app, like most of them, I wish they would all get together to make a super writing app. The zoom and pan with this app has been a big issue for me, I can not rest my hand on the tablet to write without it going crazy, I have switched through all the options for imput types, and when I remove all touch, there is no way to move the screen to write stuff, only go down to next page and this is difficult to write and reference things previously written down.
I do like the add space option and how it exports to .html for access on everything. There is also a nice select feature with the app. This could be very nice if they got with lecture notes and samsung to get the kinks worked out. Also my writing is a bit jagged here.

Not bad, has some decent features. I think Papryus is better overall though

niveks74 said:
Not bad, has some decent features. I think Papryus is better overall though
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What features or improvements would you want to see in Write?

Hi, good app but...how i can change the default page to have every time i open new document?
P.s.: pen button setted to delete dont works...my bad?
Thanks
Alex
Galaxy note n8000

Alx0363 said:
Hi, good app but...how i can change the default page to have every time i open new document?
P.s.: pen button setted to delete dont works...my bad?
Thanks
Alex
Galaxy note n8000
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Love this app! The ability to insert lines/words etc.that's great!!
I have the same issue - S Pent button will not delete after setting it to erase.
I also can figure out how to get different default templates (other than changing the color of paper and ruler)
To the developer - keep up the great work!!

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Love this app! The ability to insert lines/words etc.that's great!!
I have the same issue - S Pent button will not delete after setting it to erase.
I also can figure out how to get different default templates (other than changing the color of paper and ruler)
To the developer - keep up the great work!!
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Unfortunately, the s-pen button doesn't work. Because Samsung uses the button for global gestures (like double tap to open s-note), the events never reach Write. The page size and ruling can be set from the Page Setup dialog and the "Make default" checkbox will make the entered values the global default. For example, to get graph paper, set the X Ruling value equal to Y Ruling. A future update will provide some predefined page templates.
-- Matt

PBSurf said:
Unfortunately, the s-pen button doesn't work. Because Samsung uses the button for global gestures (like double tap to open s-note), the events never reach Write. The page size and ruling can be set from the Page Setup dialog and the "Make default" checkbox will make the entered values the global default. For example, to get graph paper, set the X Ruling value equal to Y Ruling. A future update will provide some predefined page templates.
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Sorry but "Make default" dont works...I try to set x and y at 25 but every restart of my galaxy note 10.1 if i choose new page (plus) the page return the original one.
Thanks for help
Alex

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Sorry but "Make default" dont works...I try to set x and y at 25 but every restart of my galaxy note 10.1 if i choose new page (plus) the page return the original one.
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In the current version, it looks like there is a bug that could cause this to happen when adding a page to an existing document. This will be fixed in the upcoming version. In the meantime, it should work to set the default for each document.
-- Matt

PBSurf said:
In the current version, it looks like there is a bug that could cause this to happen when adding a page to an existing document. This will be fixed in the upcoming version. In the meantime, it should work to set the default for each document.
-- Matt
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Thanks for answer
Alex

Amazing app. I've been dealing with it for some days and it really works. S Note doesn't hold the candle to it when it comes to handwriting. S Note may have other handy features, but when I've got to write with it, it takes time and it often does my head in.
Write makes your handwritten page tidyd and clear, you can read your document with any other app and it's fast and smart - Samsung should learn to develop smarter applications like this.
Enjoy it.
Cheers!

It's the Windows 8 version released
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It's the Windows 8 version released
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Yes, the Windows version is available here: http://www.styluslabs.com/writebeta/ If you have a stylus, you'll need to install the Wacom drivers for it to work properly. The response to touch input can be configured in the preferences dialog. I don't have a Windows device with touch input for testing, so please let me know if there are any problems with touch.
Both Android and Windows versions have just been updated to add a bunch of features including continuous scrolling, lasso select, resizing selections, PDF export, and improved page setup.
-- Matt

Great alternative to S-Note!
I just wanted to thank Matt for his hard work with this! Write's an awesome little app, and Matt's been great with helping me out with some palm detection issues!
Any chance of making this a floatable notepad?
Kudos, Matt, and thanks! :good:

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Any chance of making this a floatable notepad?
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This is under consideration, but would be at least a few months out.
-- Matt

oroboros74 said:
I just wanted to thank Matt for his hard work with this! Write's an awesome little app, and Matt's been great with helping me out with some palm detection issues!
Any chance of making this a floatable notepad?
Kudos, Matt, and thanks! :good:
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This is under consideration, but would be at least a few months out.
-- Matt
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It's great when developers interact with users like this. Thanks Matt!
As I was looking for more info on floating apps, I saw this from AndroidPolice which might be useful for your project:
'StandOut' Is An Open Source Library That App Developers Can Use To Build Floating Apps
For those interested, there is a floating note taker out there... not as great as as Write, but just for comparison, here it is.

Simply the best app . Really tks for share us for free!
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[APP][2.1+] Appsi sidebar, a plugin supported sidebar application

September 13th
Today I released Appsi 1.5. This release includes the following new features:
1. A new (100% free and a part of Appsi itself) page in the sidebar with support for
- App widgets in the sidebar
- Home plugins (Appsi specific plugins, more below)
- DashClock extensions
2. Full freedom in placing the hotspots and the amount of them.
3. Fast scrolling support
4. More cutomizations and look & feel options
5. Music player controls (with special thanks to xda member Dr.Alexander_Breen for his excellent guide)
.. And a lot more.
September 4th (beta 1.4.21):
It's been a while and I think it is time to give you all a little update on what's going on behind the scenes in beta. I am working on fixing the issues that are left and hope to release the upcoming version as Appsi 1.5 soon.
I have got tons of new cool features coming up. To name a few:
1. A new (100% free and a part of Appsi itself) page in the sidebar with support for
- App widgets in the sidebar
- Home plugins (Appsi specific plugins, more below)
- DashClock extensions
2. Full freedom in placing the hotspots and the amount of them.
3. Fast scrolling support
4. More cutomizations and look & feel options
5. Music player controls (with special thanks to xda member Dr.Alexander_Breen for his excellent guide)
.. And a lot more.
The Home Plugins are small extensions to the home tab/plugin. The are small plugins you can add to the home tab in Appsi. They can be used to show things like, missed calls count, launching certain intents and a lot more. There is an open source sample project with docs on Github. And there's some instructions right here.
If you are looking for screenshots, take a look in the G+ beta community.
July 30th: Version 1.4 released
Last weekend I updated Appsi to version 1.4
New features:
1. Customize the size of the text and icons
2. Change the spacing between the items
3. Global search
4. New icon
July 15th: Version 1.3.3 in beta.
Very small amount of changes for this beta. Moving to production on 18th if no issues arise.
1. Option to minimize the notification. (no icon and smallest possible notification, no extra actions etc)
2. Bug fix for android 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 devices, causing crashed with hardware acceleration enabled.
3. Fix issue with long texts on items in the sidebar when there is a title and a description. The title will now also have ellipsis.
July 13th: Version 1.3 released.
Today I moved version 1.3 from beta to production. The following changes are probably going to make 1.4:
Improved search: Search through all apps, even if the section is disabled. If you have plugins, search will include all results from all plugins.
Live folder support in Appsi (add a live folder as if it is a plugin)
If you have a suggestion, just let me know.
Also I will add new translations once they have been completed. This is just a matter of time. If you would like to help out, pm me.
July 6th: Version 1.3 beta released.
I just finished uploading the new beta version of Appsi to Google play. This new version contains the following new features:
Proper favorites manager
Contextual action bar to perform actions on long press.
Switch plugins by swiping left or right on the sidebar
Updates to all plugins for the contextual actions
Fixes:
Fixed a bug in the icon caching mechanism
This is a beta release, so for now only accessible for beta testers (wanna be a beta tester? let me know). This version will most likely move to production within one week.
July 1st: version 1.2.4 was released
Although it may not sound like a big update, This version adds support for the following new features:
* transparency in the sidebar
* the ability to choose a background image for the sidebar
* Choice between light and dark theme
* Improved the way to get the data from the plugins.
* Improved user experience, especially for new users.
Special thanks go out to all the people helping with translations and beta testing. Thank you very much!
See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appsimobile.appsi for the Google play listing.
Appsi sidebar is a sidebar application for android. It comes with an embedded App plugin (more about that later) that allows you to see all your apps and add your favorite 5 apps as favorites.
It supports 3 distinct gestures when opening the sidebar, by default they will all open the sidebar normally. The gestures are moving horizontally after touching the hotspot, moving up or moving down. For each of these you can set the action to perform, these actions are:
- open the sidebar (default)
- open favorites swiper
- open recents swiper (needs plugins with recents)
- open plugin swiper (swipe to the plugin you'd like to open and then open the sidebar)
The swiper is the same as what you might know from other apps (like swipepad), it allows you to open something with one single touch, by moving your finger from the sidebar to the item.
The hotpot is either on the left or right side of the screen, it can be positioned manually and can be as big as you want.
Thanks to the wonderful people on this forum Russian translations have been added in the latest version. Also simplified Chinese has been added. I'd like to know what you all think about this app
Appsi is plugin based (and supported). This means it allows you to buy plugins to extend the functionality. This is not needed for normal operation, but it will add more types of things you can add as a sidebar.
You can either add a hotspot for each plugin, or use one hotspot for all plugins. The opened plugin can be changed by tapping the title of the sidebar.
If anyone has suggestions or improvement, either for plugins or Appsi itself, please let me know.
Download link for Appsi 1.5:
Appsi 1.5 release

Hello everybody,
If there are people out here that would like to test the app and provide feedback that would be great. I am open to suggestions and have a list of upcoming features. One of the features I just released as beta is the ability to change the alpha and to set a background for the sidebar. And the ability to be always up to date with the plugins (no need to load the data when the sidebar opens)
So if you'd like to do beta testing, send me your Google account (e-mail address) and I'll add you to the testers list.
If you do not want to test the beta version but would prefer to test the current version, that will also help very much.
Any feedback will help.
Thank you all!

If I'm right, this sidebar uses a service as "sidebar", doesn't it?
All other apps I've seen start up an activity if you touch the gesture area. If you press the home button and try to launch an activity from the gesture area, it has a 5 second delay.
So that's a really good thing.
Overall UI looks pretty good, which makes the users first thoughts about the app very positive.
ActionBar in the sidebar is awesome and usefull.
Logo isn't the best I've seen, you could improve that.
This is my opinion 4 seconds after installation.
Edit: search bar is very usefull
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2 JB

I will try it ASAP and report.
I tried a lot already.... almost all to be honest, and i stick right now to a cryptic one but which really work well. Can be used for inspiration, so here it is (and i am not advertsing, ok. It is just for reference as this one is relly unknown) : overlay launcher.
Gonna install your app and report from my of course subjective point of view.
Cheers

Really like it thus far! Would it be possible to make it easier to switch between plug ins, I.e, when the sidebar is open instead of going to the top to switch plug ins, maybe you can swipe left and right within in the sidebar to switch between plug ins. It will make it a lot easier to use instead of going to the top.
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It is mandatory to add an option to dismiss notification from the notification panel... It's way too big, and it is very annoying for me!
App works really well indeed, and I'm looking forward to try a couple of plugins!
Keep up the good work mate!
Galaxy Note II - Alliance Rom

jlo20431 said:
Really like it thus far! Would it be possible to make it easier to switch between plug ins, I.e, when the sidebar is open instead of going to the top to switch plug ins, maybe you can swipe left and right within in the sidebar to switch between plug ins. It will make it a lot easier to use instead of going to the top.
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+1 for this feature as well! That would be REALLY GREAT!!

mDroidd said:
If I'm right, this sidebar uses a service as "sidebar", doesn't it?
All other apps I've seen start up an activity if you touch the gesture area. If you press the home button and try to launch an activity from the gesture area, it has a 5 second delay.
So that's a really good thing.
Overall UI looks pretty good, which makes the users first thoughts about the app very positive.
ActionBar in the sidebar is awesome and usefull.
Logo isn't the best I've seen, you could improve that.
This is my opinion 4 seconds after installation.
Edit: search bar is very usefull
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Thanks! Yes I know I'll ask try to find someone to do some icon design later on. Will become better. I am focusing on improving the usability right now and other performance improvements. They are all in beta now, and if no more issues are found in these versions, I'll be putting this beta to production.
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Really like it thus far! Would it be possible to make it easier to switch between plug ins, I.e, when the sidebar is open instead of going to the top to switch plug ins, maybe you can swipe left and right within in the sidebar to switch between plug ins. It will make it a lot easier to use instead of going to the top.
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Good suggestion, I will add this to my list.
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It is mandatory to add an option to dismiss notification from the notification panel... It's way too big, and it is very annoying for me!
App works really well indeed, and I'm looking forward to try a couple of plugins!
Keep up the good work mate!
Galaxy Note II - Alliance Rom
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Thanks, the problem with this is running as a service. Android will kill the app if it needs resources. I have tested it and it will kill it quite often and restart it within a few moments. I can add an option (a discouraged one) to disable running as a foreground service. I can also suggest the user to disable notifications for the app if running on jelly bean, and take them there. Another thought was the ability to set a 100% transparent icon so that it does not show up in the notification bar.
The upcoming version (current beta) adds the following features:
custom backgrounds on the sidebar
light and dark theme (dark theme is the current theme, light is like holo light)
better synchronization between appsi and the plugins. (less data loading needed and better user experience)
Improved getting started experience (visible hotspots until the user disables it and an arrow showing how to open the sidebar once the hotspot is touched)
For the next version (after the current beta), I will add the following features for sure:
Favorites manager: Manage the favorites in a proper way and allow for an unlimited amount of favorites.
Navigating between plugins with a simple swipe.
and possibly:
integration with live folders
widgets plugin (already working on this)
Thank you all, and if you have any more ideas or suggestions, please let me know!

May I add something to this already rich and awesome list?
I would REALLY REALLY LIKE to have the possibility to add shortcuts to the apps plugin (as I can do on the launcher screen, for example). That would be really helpful!!
...Maybe also an option to change app icons and names, and a way to hide the "X" for apps removal (which I find quite ugly, this function might be moved to a separate and specific menu to add/remove things maybe?) ?
you may also think about offering an "all plugins package" at a discounted price, rather than having to buy all plugins separately (which, btw, makes the sum of all prices quite high). So that the user can choose if selectively buy the only one or two plugins he needs at their actual price, or directly going for the full thing.. I hope it's clear what I mean!
Cheers and keep up the good work!!
Should you need some beta testers... You know where to look
Galaxy Note II - Alliance Rom

cyberpunk627 said:
May I add something to this already rich and awesome list?
I would REALLY REALLY LIKE to have the possibility to add shortcuts to the apps plugin (as I can do on the launcher screen, for example). That would be really helpful!!
...Maybe also an option to change app icons and names, and a way to hide the "X" for apps removal (which I find quite ugly, this function might be moved to a separate and specific menu to add/remove things maybe?) ?
you may also think about offering an "all plugins package" at a discounted price, rather than having to buy all plugins separately (which, btw, makes the sum of all prices quite high). So that the user can choose if selectively buy the only one or two plugins he needs at their actual price, or directly going for the full thing.. I hope it's clear what I mean!
Cheers and keep up the good work!!
Should you need some beta testers... You know where to look
Galaxy Note II - Alliance Rom
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Yes, the favorites manager will at first be used to replace the current way of adding and removing the favorites. But later on it will also be improved to allow changing names and icons. Also I am planning to do something with icon themes, I still need to determine how and what, but a new theming format is not what I am aiming for (we are talking several releases in the future now)
Shortcuts is definitely on the list of to-dos for the apps plugin. I can't say yet when it will be added but it is something that will definitely be there in the future.
Well beta testers are always very welcome. The XDA Android app testers community is a good starting point, https://plus.google.com/communities/100406373096097711894 . If you join this group and opt-in for beta testing at https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.appsimobile.appsi you'll be able to get the beta version. I still need to add this community to the plugins, I will update my original post with the details when it is done.

Appsi sidebar is well beyond 1000 downloads from play store! Yay!
I really recommend this app guys, try it out and you'll see that it is even more comfortable to use than it looks!
Note 2 N7100 - Alliance Rom - Perseus Kernel

jlo20431 said:
Really like it thus far! Would it be possible to make it easier to switch between plug ins, I.e, when the sidebar is open instead of going to the top to switch plug ins, maybe you can swipe left and right within in the sidebar to switch between plug ins. It will make it a lot easier to use instead of going to the top.
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+1 for this feature as well! That would be REALLY GREAT!!
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This feature is included in the beta that was released today. I loved it from the moment it worked. Very good suggestion

Today the beta was moved to production. See the original post at the start of the thread for the changes

Very cool app and working great so far.
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New Beta release, for all of you who want the notification icon gone, it is in beta now!

I'm joining this too.
Gonna try out.
Keep the good work.
PMoto

New version released, 1.4 see original post for details

Newest version is great!! An awesome improvement, really!! Appsi is becoming more and more polished and feature rich, while staying lightning fast. Can't think of anything better!!
Now we only need some more theming options, like changing icons (as we do on launchers like nova, apex...)
Cheers and keep up the good work!!
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Appsi crashing
Firstly, after 24 hours of using Appsi, I have to say that Appsi has become one of my favourite apps. It is well done and provides needed functionality.
However, from time to time Appsi freezes and the only way to get the sidebar back is to force close the app from the application manager and then restart the app.
I'm using CM 10.1 (Android 4.2.1) on Samsung S3.
Any idea why this is happening?
Cheers,
Eran

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Firstly, after 24 hours of using Appsi, I have to say that Appsi has become one of my favourite apps. It is well done and provides needed functionality.
However, from time to time Appsi freezes and the only way to get the sidebar back is to force close the app from the application manager and then restart the app.
I'm using CM 10.1 (Android 4.2.1) on Samsung S3.
Any idea why this is happening?
Cheers,
Eran
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Never ever had a freeze or FC on Alliance Rom.. Maybe the problem you have is only tied to aosp roms and not stock or derivative ones?
Note 2 N7100 - Alliance Rom DMA6 - Perseus Kernel

[APP][4.0.3+] Aauuto - Awesome and ultra useful tool for device automation ;)

Do you want to automate your Android device? But all the tools you tried are complex, confusing or simply do not work reliable ....
Do you want to save some battery via device automation? But having a background service for event catching running all the time does not make sense for you ....
THEN you should definitively try Aauuto! :good:
Aauuto is the Awesome and ultra useful tool for event based device automation.
The combination of activities, trigger events, event conditions, parameters and variables, allows you to create thousands of different automation schemes with just a few simple clicks. You don´t have to be a developer to create powerful automation schemes with Aaauuto.
Aauuto is optimized for performance and efficiency and does a lot of things completely different than other automation tools. Aauuto does not use any background service (no background battery drain!) to catch the events, is very easy to use, powerful and feature loaded. An additional and Aauuto Expert Plugin is available for Root activities and activities which need extensive permissions.
Available Events:
- Time
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- NFC
- Power
- Battery
- Boot
- DockMode
Available Activities (Extract, some need ROOT and/ or our free Expert Plugin):
* Wireless/ Network/ GPS
- WiFi (ON/OFF/TOGGLE)
- Connect WiFi
- Add WiFi SSID
- WiFi Hotspot
- Bluetooth (ON/OFF/TOGGLE)
- BT Discover
- Mobile Data
- Airlplane Mode
- Location (GPS)
- NFC (ON/OFF/TOGGLE)
*Device Settings
- Ringer Mode
- Brightness (value, auto, adaptive)
- Display Timeout
- Auto Sync
- Auto Rotate
- Ringer/ Music/ Alarm Volume and Tone
- Stay awake
*Start/ Launch
- Music Player
- Navigation
- Start App and App Activity
- Close App
- Website/ Uri
- Car Mode
*Text-to-Speech
- Speak Text
- Speak Time/ Date
*Phone
- Dial and Call
*Calendar/ Alarm
- Set Alarm/ Alarm in minutes
- Calendar entry
- Timestamp
- Timer
... and many more native activities + possibility to use standard automation plugins!
Available Conditions for Events:
- Weekday
- Battery
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- Charging
- Dock
- Time
- Variable
Aauuto has also support for Widgets and Shortcuts and a lot of additional features.
Check it out!
Google Play public beta:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widgapp.aauuto
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Changelog:
Update 1.1.6: (1.1.6.x fixes)
- Android 6 Marshmallow adaptations
- Improvements and bug fixes
Update 1.1.1 (1.1.x Bug fixes):
- New Battery Saver toggle (stock Lollipop!)
Update 1.0.1 (1.0.x Bug fixes): Out of BETA!
- New Reboot activity
- New Aauuto Broadcast activity
Update 0.9.1 (0.9.1.x Bug fixes):
-Support for 2G/3G/LTE toggle
-Experimental support for external setting/activity plugins (Locale/Tasker compatible)
Update: 0.8.6 :
- Support for Mobile Data toggle on Android 5.+ Lollipop (latest Super SU required!)
- Aauuto shortcuts
Version 0.8.5 : Portrait mode and some bugfixes
Version 0.8: Initial Release * BETA *

placeholer

Hmm, what´s up XDA ?
A brand-new app and no feedback ? ......Issues? ....afraid of Beta ?.... or afraid the colors? ... or just the weekend ?

ascsa said:
feedback ? ......Issues?
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Thanks for this app. As I have been using NFC Retag it takes some time to work out what to do using Aauuto.
1) First impression was why only landscape mode? I appreciate it is necessary to have landscape but there are cases with a long list when portrait should be an option. I prefer to be able to use both.
2) Major frustration is that widget cannot be put into a folder.
3) Not sure why there are two threads? This and http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/themes-apps/app-aauuto-automation-app-t2994977
I am using Note 4 SM-910F.
Keep up the good work. I guess we are all getting back into things after the break.
Cheers
Tom

Szczepanik said:
Thanks for this app. As I have been using NFC Retag it takes some time to work out what to do using Aauuto.
1) First impression was why only landscape mode? I appreciate it is necessary to have landscape but there are cases with a long list when portrait should be an option. I prefer to be able to use both.
2) Major frustration is that widget cannot be put into a folder.
3) Not sure why there are two threads? This and http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/themes-apps/app-aauuto-automation-app-t2994977
I am using Note 4 SM-910F.
Keep up the good work. I guess we are all getting back into things after the break.
Cheers
Tom
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Hi Tom,
many thanks for the feedback !
Yep, Aauuto has a completely different UI concept than ReTag .... as longterm ReTag user, this could take some time ... but compared to other automation apps this should be very easy to handle
1) Hmmm, nobody seems to like the landscape mode except me ....yes, in portrait mode you will have some additional screen space for the activity list etc. but for the main UI you will get less screen space for events and activities (unless I implement some nested scrolling views (-> usually a horrible UI from my point of view )) .... However, Aauuto is in Beta, because I want to try things out and incorporate user feedback, so I will probably incorporate portrait within the next update ... then we can all have a look and decide if it makes sense or not
2) Arrgh , I´m doing Android development for years and using it even longer, but I wasn´t aware that you can put widgets into folders .... ....I like the resizeable widgets, but obviously you can´t put them into folders ... so I think I have to provide an additional non-resizeable widget ....
3) I want as much feedback as possible and this "Apps and Games" forum seems much to overcrowded for that ....

Promising app, I just hated the obligatory landscape mode, is awkward.

For portrait mode just use the exposed "app settings" module... And now you have portrait view.
Update: Portrait mode doesn't work well ...lol
How about adding time and GPS events! ie ... Phone to silent at certain locations. Or dim screen brightness at 9pm etc

rodaven said:
Promising app, I just hated the obligatory landscape mode, is awkward.
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justjayhere said:
For portrait mode just use the exposed "app settings" module... And now you have portrait view.
Update: Portrait mode doesn't work well ...lol
How about adding time and GPS events! ie ... Phone to silent at certain locations. Or dim screen brightness at 9pm etc
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Okay I got it , portrait will be available in the next update ....I just have to re-enable it and do some minor tweaking .... prototype screenshot below ...
Time event is already available ... it´s called Time and it´s the first event ... GPS Geofence is on my todo list, but it depends on Google Services and the Google part wasn´t reliable in the past .... i want to have everything else stable before struggling with the Google servers ...
Thx for the feedback!

Okay... Portrait layout is much better.
I would make the Scheme On/Off button more apparent.. I finally figured it out but easy to miss at first.
Also... I would prefer the Schemes Overview to be its own screen (not a pop-up).. that should be the screen it starts in as well.
One more request.. make long pressing Scheme name "edit" possible (I know you can edit from Scheme Overview pop-up.. but most will try to long press to edit).
Might help to have one basic Scheme built to help folks figure out the basic layout (like a low battery scheme).
Thanks in advance.

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Okay... Portrait layout is much better.
I would make the Scheme On/Off button more apparent.. I finally figured it out but easy to miss at first.
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I disabled the ON /OFF label because it looked weird ... but yes, I should mention it somewhere ...a help function or a walk through or something like that ...
Also... I would prefer the Schemes Overview to be its own screen (not a pop-up).. that should be the screen it starts in as well.
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Probably no, mainly due to two reasons:
- The Overview is a quick way to switch schemes or to change some scheme settings like name or order .... I think it doesn´t contain enough content for an extra screen
- beside that the scheme screen do some heavy background loading (schemes, events, conditions, activities ) from the internal database... having an extra screen will start this loading again, so a pop up makes much more sense from a performance point of view
One more request.. make long pressing Scheme name "edit" possible (I know you can edit from Scheme Overview pop-up.. but most will try to long press to edit).
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Already implemented that with an earlier prototype ....in fact, I had the same context menu enabled as in the Overview ... didn´t like it ... I think it´s much more convenient within the Overview, and beside that how often do users change a scheme name ...but it´s up to the users, if a majority wants this, I can re-enable it ....
Might help to have one basic Scheme built to help folks figure out the basic layout (like a low battery scheme).
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Good idea!

Aauuto
1 Thanks for portrait mode.
2 Looking forward to widget that I can add to a folder.
3 I like the ability to move items up and down but it is tedious for more than a few positions. Can you implement a way to move to a particular position or drag & drop?
4 Note that my "event" is blank as my "activity" is triggered by click of widget.
5 Can you allow resizing of Event / Activity windows so I can see more Activity and minimize Event?
6 My Activity is a list of Start App - all related to News e.g. News Digest, News Republic etc. The idea is, I click on widget, then each app is launched and, after a few seconds I can read each News app, pressing back key to close and automatically display next one in my list until I know I have checked all my news sources.
7 Bug is that the Apps do not all launch or do not display in same order as I listed in your app.
Can this be fixed?
Cheers
Tom

Szczepanik said:
1 Thanks for portrait mode.
2 Looking forward to widget that I can add to a folder.
3 I like the ability to move items up and down but it is tedious for more than a few positions. Can you implement a way to move to a particular position or drag & drop?
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Thanks to android, this is a lot of effort for such a simple task ... it´s on my todo list, but in a low position ..
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4 Note that my "event" is blank as my "activity" is triggered by click of widget.
5 Can you allow resizing of Event / Activity windows so I can see more Activity and minimize Event?
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I think i have to keep space for at least one event ....you would gain additional space for one more activity in portrait than in landscape on a nexus 5 (note 4 maybe 2) ... so one more activity for a niche use case vs. a fidgety UI and addititonal permanent size calculations within the UI .... I don´t think that makes sense
6 My Activity is a list of Start App - all related to News e.g. News Digest, News Republic etc. The idea is, I click on widget, then each app is launched and, after a few seconds I can read each News app, pressing back key to close and automatically display next one in my list until I know I have checked all my news sources.
7 Bug is that the Apps do not all launch or do not display in same order as I listed in your app.
Can this be fixed?
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Nothing to fix ... Aauuto fires the activities always in the correct order ... then the android multitasking kicks in......Aauuto is really fast, so it fires the activities within a couple of milliseconds ....one of your news apps may need a little bit more time to launch than other apps (or maybe is already in cache), so for Android the order could be a little bit different ....However, if you slow down the activities a bit by adding a "WAIT" Activity (--> Misc, 1 second should be enough) between the "Start App" activities, Android should have the same order cached :good:

wait Activity
ascsa said:
adding a "WAIT" Activity (--> Misc, 1 second should be enough) between the "Start App" activities, Android should have the same order cached :good:
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Thanks that seems to make it work better although I think some apps may need 2 seconds. Can I suggest you set the default wait to be 1 sec? I doubt anyone would actually want to wait "0" sec ...
Cheers
Tom

ascsa said:
Hmm, what´s up XDA ?
A brand-new app and no feedback ? ......Issues? ....afraid of Beta ?.... or afraid the colors? ... or just the weekend ?
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Comments reserved. Looking forward for such an app.
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Update 0.8.6
update 0.8.6 just uploaded to Google Play ... could take some time until it´s available
What´s new:
- MOBILE DATA toggle for Android 5.+ Lollipop --> that was a b**'*h !!! --> latest Expert Plugin + latest SuperSu required!
- Aauuto shortcuts --> you can put several shortcuts within a folder on your homescreen

ascsa said:
update 0.8.6 just uploaded to Google Play ... - Aauuto shortcuts --> you can put several shortcuts within a folder on your homescreen
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Shortcuts work well in folder thanks. May need wider choice of icon (darker and colored) or ability to import / or use own icon in future.
Thanks
Cheers
Tom
My Note 4 note for you.

Szczepanik said:
Shortcuts work well in folder thanks. May need wider choice of icon (darker and colored) or ability to import / or use own icon in future.
Thanks
Cheers
Tom
My Note 4 note for you.
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yep, the icon set isn´t final yet .....

Hmm ,
not much feedback so far, everything seems stable ... a few small issues and only 2 error reports ... I think, I could release the 1.0 version end of January .... so, please report your issues and feature requests till the end of next week and I could probably implement/ solve them for the official (non-beta) 1.0 release ....
btw. nobody so far mentioned the colors .... I like them, but I expected some uproar ....so, last chance before 1.0 ;-P

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Colours are fine.Need more volume controls. Has Alarm, Music & Ringer Volume. Missing Notifications, System and Bluetooth.
When I change a setting (e.g. delay) it should show what I had set - currently deletes and creates new.
Volume should show numbers on the sliding scale please.
It is a competitive market against Tasker, Macrodroid and your own NFC Retag. Good luck.
Thanks
Cheers
Tom
My Note 4 note for you.

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Colours are fine.Need more volume controls. Has Alarm, Music & Ringer Volume. Missing Notifications, System and Bluetooth.
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Yep, standard android has Alarm, Music and Ringer volume. The other volumes were skipped in Android 4.0 ICS, if I remember it right ....A lot of manufacturers re-enable these volumes ... so it´s basically a manufacturer/ rom specific feature ... easy to implement, but works only on some devices .... However, I think I will implement some device/ manufacturer specific features eventually... not all devices and not all manufacturers, but the most popular ones and this volume settings thing surely will be one of the first device specific features.
When I change a setting (e.g. delay) it should show what I had set - currently deletes and creates new.
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I do it like your proposal in ReTag ....it´s easier, if you only change a parameter, but feels a little bit awkward to change an activity .... so, I tried something new for Aauuto ... to be honest, currently I don´t know what I like better ....I will think about it ... additional feedback welcome
Volume should show numbers on the sliding scale please.
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Hmm, android volume settings doesn´t show numbers, too .... so I don´t know what you want with these numbers ....but sure, I can have a look at it ....
It is a competitive market against Tasker, Macrodroid and your own NFC Retag. Good luck.
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Thanks!
Yep, it´s a competitive market, but NFC ReTag is more focused on non-writeable NFC tags and other NFC stuff and was never designed as a full-blown automation app ... so I started again from scratch ... I could have renamed ReTag and updated it with a completely new app/code/database etc. to keep the downloads and users, but I would have had to skip a lot of features because of a different focus ... so I will keep NFC ReTag focused on NFC stuff and Aauuto for a more general automation approach (with additional triggers, events etc. --> although the NFC event in Aauuto should be even easier to handle with writeable tags than in ReTag )
Sure, Tasker is the benchmark. in functionality and complexity ...... I like Tasker, but I discussed it a lot with users and a lot of them (even some tech-savvy users) could not handle Tasker .....
And yes, a bunch of other automation apps are also available ... The main difference is the no background service restriction in Aauuto .... let me explain it on a popular example:
A lot of users want some battery saver feature like "when battery is < 20% disable XYZ" ... you can do this with a lot of apps (and it´s easy to implement), but from my point of view it doesn´t make sense at all .... Android doesn´t provides a standard battery level broadcast (except Battery LOW and OK ...and it´s by intention). So any app which wants to provide such a feature has to start a background service and constantly waking up (every couple of seconds , once a minute, whatever) your device and check the battery stats ...this cause a lot of additional battery drain, wake locks and so on and at the end of the day, this checking could drain a lot more battery than you can save via "disable XYZ" ... so it´s senseless .... but users want it and they usually get it ... [another popular example for this user/android problem are the countless RAM cleaner apps out there ....on current Android versions, it doesn´t make sense to clean your RAM at all , because Android does a perfect job with that (only a full RAM is a good RAM ) and these cleaners usually do more harm than good ..... but users want it and they usually get it ...]
OK, back to the point: Aauuto will only implement rock-stable activities and bulletproof events and conditions ....so when you use Aauuto, you can be sure it works without issues and without hidden drawbacks. Maybe I will not implement a popular feature, due to some hidden drawback, but for me it´s more important to develop a good app and therefore have a few less downloads than implementing popular but problematic features ....Afaik you can´t be sure of that with other automation apps.