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I start to hate Raphael. There is everything inside,but nothing,that can I normally use without problems. I am now on a bussiness trip,I was testing GPS while driving...****!!! Absolutely useless, 70% of time without satellites,25% with unacurrate positio(more than 200m away of the road),only 5% of the time that was working normally(quiet). Now I am on the hotel and viola! I can connect to wifi,but after some seconds rhe network is unavailable and it is still connecting/disconnecting all the time round and round. This text I am writing from my laptop,where Wifi is working correctly(50% of available signal strength and the router is located 10m away from me behind the door). What the hell is the HTC nowadays? Raphael should be NOT a lowend,but as it seems,it is!!! This company starts to sucks.
Has anyone same problems with wifi as me? I have wifi set to maximum performance,but still sucks.

You really seem pissed at HTC mate... I dint have any issues with mine so far though... Note that the Wifi receiver on your laptop is always better than on your phone. If its 50% on the laptop then it can't be within like 10 metres or there must be loads of obstacles...

TomasNM said:
I start to hate Raphael. There is everything inside,but nothing,that can I normally use without problems. I am now on a bussiness trip,I was testing GPS while driving...S***!!! Absolutely useless, 70% of time without satellites,25% with unacurrate positio(more than 200m away of the road),only 5% of the time that was working normally(quiet). Now I am on the hotel and viola! I can connect to wifi,but after some seconds rhe network is unavailable and it is still connecting/disconnecting all the time round and round. This text I am writing from my laptop,where Wifi is working correctly(50% of available signal strength and the router is located 10m away from me behind the door). What the hell is the HTC nowadays? Raphael should be NOT a lowend,but as it seems,it is!!! This company starts to sucks.
Has anyone same problems with wifi as me? I have wifi set to maximum performance,but still sucks.
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Your wifi receiver will NEVER be as good as the equivalent from a laptop/pc. Remember if you wanted maximum wifi performance just like your laptop then your battery life will be VERY poor.
Remember dude this device is what?...a MONTH old? There are ALWAYS problems with HTC devices when they are stock, give the thing time to be developed for properly here.

mrvanx said:
Remember dude this device is what?...a MONTH old? There are ALWAYS problems with HTC devices when they are stock, give the thing time to be developed for properly here.
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So what if it's about a MONTH old?! It should work flawlessly when you take it from the box! That's why you've paid a lot of money.. not to wait for PARTIAL 3rd-party solutions that can avoid your warranty!
I see a lot of issues, a lot of unhappy people, etc etc.. will actually htc take an action to resolve all those bugs (I think the majority are software related) or they will close their eyes like usual (see previous device and htc attitude)?
if htc will do exactly nothing about those problemes, I think the only solution is to announce the mass of their stupid ignorance. i'm really upset and had enough of it.
I've made a topic with some of most common problems of htc touch pro. If noting gonna change i will forward that topic (including some other from here) to all the big mobiles news site (gsmarea, mobile-review, coolsmartphone, engadget, etc) to spread the real news about their latest overpriced devices. And should I mention about the previous devices? And about their care for their costumers? Nah.. THIS MUST BE STOPPED! It's time to correct their problems or drop it!
REALLY PISSED OF WHAT HTC HAS BECAME.

If you want great out-of-the-box phone, dont buy HTC.
Sorry, but thats just the way things are. My TyTN was almost unusable out of the box...

As far as I know,that no PPC from HTC was usable right out-of-the-box. Beginning with Himalaya,which WM2003 was unable to wake me up in that time,that alarm was set(yes,4 years of developing makes the device almost perfect),via Hurricane sold as SDA II(unusable without skills in WM,now it is pretty good),to this piece of terrible device. I bought Raphael due to presence of technologies,I want to use. Without these technologies,I can keep my lovely Himalaya,that is working perfectly. Only some devices I know,was problemless and they have all working,that I was expected:Typhoon and Oxygene. So my favorite HTC's are all the time Himalaya and Typhoon/Feeler/Sonata and all other PPC's branded by HTC origin sucks. HTC is no more the old good HTC,that we know without its own mark(beginning with Hermes as TyTN...OMG that was a big s..t).

Taajuus said:
If you want great out-of-the-box phone, dont buy HTC.
Sorry, but thats just the way things are. My TyTN was almost unusable out of the box...
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Hehe in that case dont buy Nokia either. no top end nokia has working software when released.

charon72 said:
Hehe in that case dont buy Nokia either. no top end nokia has working software when released.
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True.
The difference is, that you cant customize or tweak Nokia software

Tethering

Thank you forums, I love you! Anyone get caught by Sprint for tethering?

10GB+ a month and no complaints from Sprint. My phone is my primary source of internet.

sweet thats good, i was prob pushing 2 gB max and was getting worried about getting caught...

How do u know how many gbs your using? For example, how much is 10gbs? how many hours on the internet is that? Or does it even work like that. Just curious cuz im tethering now as of yesterday I finally got it working and LOVE IT but dont wanna get a suprising $1000 phone bill,lol.

aaron130 said:
How do u know how many gbs your using? For example, how much is 10gbs? how many hours on the internet is that? Or does it even work like that. Just curious cuz im tethering now as of yesterday I finally got it working and LOVE IT but dont wanna get a suprising $1000 phone bill,lol.
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You can just keep track of the MB count at the bottom of the screen of the tethering program.

Is that up or down?? Also this story makes me VERY nervous!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7141935.stm

also i think in your bill it states how much data is being used

Been tethering for a couple of years with no issue. I never could get internet sharing to work to WiFi router then ps3 though. for a while, I had Bluetooth modem. setup, so blackberry would auto connect when at the house. With WiFi tether though, BAMMM. I play socom with it, and watch Justin tv; its sick I tell you. Sick

aaron130 said:
How do u know how many gbs your using? For example, how much is 10gbs? how many hours on the internet is that? Or does it even work like that. Just curious cuz im tethering now as of yesterday I finally got it working and LOVE IT but dont wanna get a suprising $1000 phone bill,lol.
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Every website carries a different ammount of data, some websites are less than 1 MB or 1/1000 (ok, so 1/1024) of a GB. Some are far more than that especailly with animations and flash. Streaming Audio and Video eat up big chunks.
You can go into Device Self Maintenance on your phone and it has an option to show data usage. I think some ROM's remove it though. And I think that because my phone is the primary line I have options that my wife's hero doesn't. Bill pay and what not.
Then again, Fresh ROM 1.1 doesn't have it in there and I have no clue what to tell you to select to find it. You could also log into Sprint.com and look at your bill, it has current data usage.

I too am happy to see the 10GB+ post. I've been tethering for over a year, first with windows mobile, and now with wifi-tether. On windows mobile things always went slow most of the time, so I never passed up 5 gigs in a month. Now that I have the hero, I've been using it a lot more since it is my primary source of internet. It goes really fast and I love it. I'm happy that now I don't have to worry quite so much about the usage. I don't see myself hitting the 10gb mark any time soon.

WiFi tethering is uber cool

Warning about tweetdeck beta!

Firstly sorry if this is in the wrong place. Just wanted to ensure its in a place obvious to folk so they get the warning.
Secondly after installing tweetdeck on my phone I let it run for about a day and a half. However after that short time I noticed my battery was suffering quite badly. So I took a look around my stats and also noticed that in that short time the program had used no less than 74mb of data!!! I rang my colleague who also installed it and he found it had used 100mb. And a fair bit of battery.
He has a nexus one I have a milestone. We went sniffing around their forums and found a few other users complaining of the same issue. So we've uninstalled for now. We've posted something up on their forum but as of yet no reply. Needless to say that sort of data usage is unacceptable. Especially when alot of carriers are getting rid of unlimited plans.

Its running constantly. Updating as new feeds arrive. Yes its going to eat up data and battery.
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crackedvenom2 said:
Its running constantly. Updating as new feeds arrive. Yes its going to eat up data and battery.
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I take it you didnt bother to read my whole post? no? didnt think so. Regardless of the fact its constantly updating it shouldnt eat nearly 75-100mb in two days. My bbc news, facebook, and gmail are all running constantly but they use a few mb every few days. get a clue.

sounds bad ... is there an answer of the devs now?

well they've responded to our thread and have gone away to test it. We'll see I guess.
this is the thread on the official forums.
http://support.tweetdeck.com/entries/239273-over-use-of-data?page=1#post_347227

How do you see how much data a particular program uses?

there are apps on the market place that will monitor and tell you.

or you call *#*#4636#*#* - there you can have a look on monitored apps

[Q] Motorola Triumph and Everyone's Concern

Hello Everyone, First and foremost I want to thank the Triumph Community and all the mods/developers especially isaacj87 for all the hard work and dedication. I have had my Triumph for over 2 weeks now and I can't say I am blown away with it but for now I am happy. The triumph has a lot of features and it's on par with many other phones from 2010 hahah. The service as we all know either works great in your area or it will piss you of and you will want to slam it on the concrete. Regardless here's the problems I currently face that I hope CM7 will fix:
--GPS loading times are incredibly slow, To be more clear, after you enable the gps, it will take FOREVER to "locate location". (At other times after a cold reset it will work perfectly, weird)
--Low Volume (Volume sounds at 50%) on Pandora and sometimes calls. Almost everyone got pissed of at this and some have returned their phones.
--Lack of autofocus on the camera.
--Flickering issues when resuming phone. (I have never had an issue with this and honestly it wouldn't bother me at all.
--Dual Band Radio. Would It even be possible to have it just like the Intercept?
These issues are tolerable at times, but I am really desperate to see cm7 already. Please let me know what issues Cyanogen would be able to fix or not. Thanks in advance. (Note to Isaacj87 Hopefully you read this, anyways, I bet you will have cm7 fully working within a month and a half, if not sooner, Expect a generous donation when you are done btw!) Also If I can request someone kind enough to feature a step by step guide from root all the way to 2.3 later on! Sorry for typing all this but these are the most common concerns we Triumph owners face! Thanks in advance again!

Don't forget Battery Life!

I am seeing about 16 hours battery life on mine - just had to install Juice Defender and set my exchange email to come in manually instead of push. Before that I was seeing 8 hours or so.

Yea after I installed juice defender the battery life became comparable to any one else with a smart phone I've seen. It doesn't hold a candle to my g1 when it had a fresh extended battery that would let it idle for 4 days without dying and let me browse the web and the like for about 8 hours and only drain the battery half way, but that's a special case. Juice defender works pretty well at keeping the drain down when not in use.

Stop complaining devs will never buy this phone, dumb asses
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iloveandroid16 said:
Stop complaining devs will never buy this phone, dumb asses
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Why shouldn't the Triumph be given some dev support? Because It's prepaid? Some people don't have the luxury to buy expensive phones and crazy $100 plans. We already have enough bills as it is. Btw, This phone WILL be purchased by many, and cm7 will make it work perfectly in the long run. If we can get Cyanogenmod soon, this may increase sales and Virgin Mobile may bring in better smartphones if it realizes there is a potential market. Quit hating already.

You got it wrong bro i love this phone, if ppl keep moaning and groaning on their little problems no one is going to want this phone,
So read my comment one more time and get the picture of what i was getting off my chest.
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Why shouldn't the Triumph be given some dev support? Because It's prepaid? Some people don't have the luxury to buy expensive phones and crazy $100 plans. We already have enough bills as it is. Btw, This phone WILL be purchased by many, and cm7 will make it work perfectly in the long run. If we can get Cyanogenmod soon, this may increase sales and Virgin Mobile may bring in better smartphones if it realizes there is a potential market. Quit hating already.
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If they get 3g going faster and better GPS, and if they get the device going much faster too, I would be happy to try it out on Cyanogenmod, for now, the current build hasn't even been released and it sounds far from stable. This is all a step in the right direction though, happy to see these forums added and I hope to see some official Cyanogenmod support in the future.
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The GPS problem can be fixed by a script that is floating around on android forums.com.

Just need a good extended battery and I will be happy!
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jjuanml22 said:
Hello Everyone, First and foremost I want to thank the Triumph Community and all the mods/developers especially isaacj87 for all the hard work and dedication. I have had my Triumph for over 2 weeks now and I can't say I am blown away with it but for now I am happy. The triumph has a lot of features and it's on par with many other phones from 2010 hahah. The service as we all know either works great in your area or it will piss you of and you will want to slam it on the concrete. Regardless here's the problems I currently face that I hope CM7 will fix:
--GPS loading times are incredibly slow, To be more clear, after you enable the gps, it will take FOREVER to "locate location". (At other times after a cold reset it will work perfectly, weird)
--Low Volume (Volume sounds at 50%) on Pandora and sometimes calls. Almost everyone got pissed of at this and some have returned their phones.
--Lack of autofocus on the camera.
--Flickering issues when resuming phone. (I have never had an issue with this and honestly it wouldn't bother me at all.
--Dual Band Radio. Would It even be possible to have it just like the Intercept?
These issues are tolerable at times, but I am really desperate to see cm7 already. Please let me know what issues Cyanogen would be able to fix or not. Thanks in advance. (Note to Isaacj87 Hopefully you read this, anyways, I bet you will have cm7 fully working within a month and a half, if not sooner, Expect a generous donation when you are done btw!) Also If I can request someone kind enough to feature a step by step guide from root all the way to 2.3 later on! Sorry for typing all this but these are the most common concerns we Triumph owners face! Thanks in advance again!
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I understand that there are some issues with the phone. Fortunately, I don't seem to have any of these problems.
In response to some of your concerns, CM7 still is Android. Yeah, it's packed with features, but it's still based off of AOSP. However, some issues could be resolved. GPS locking might be able to be tweaked and it's possible to adjust volume levels.
The other issues seem to be hardware related. I'm not sure what you mean by "lack of autofocus" because it's an autofocus camera.
Obviously, since I have some issues, I'd like to iron them out as well. We'll see what Motorola does with their source code packages and we can take it from there.

T-Mo Data throttling

Let's face it, 5 gb of data is nowhere near enough for one month! I've seen posts about how to rid your phone of being throttled. Before I go through with this, has anyone done this yet? Looking to see if t-mobile caught on to anyone and said anything. Thanks!
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Just use WI-FI when you can. A lot of places offer it free.
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At home I always do, but days at work and weekends kill me during the month. There's no open wifi near my work... In NYC... Go figure
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Its done from tmobile's servers. No way around it ): unless you can sneak into the servers at tmobile's headquarters on a stealth mission and hack their mainframe by holding "x".

Dayum I thought I consider myself a heavy data user and I generally use a tad over 2gb/month lol.
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there is a way to do it but from what I read it works for some people and not for others. So I think it is a crapshoot. I would be really careful. I agree that 5 gigs is not enough. I am almost over my limit with 10 days to go and that is with using wifi alot of the time. I was thinking of doing that fix also but I dont kmow. Also I dont think anyone had problems with tmo.

I wouldn't say that hack works for anyone. I got the text a few months ago about halfway through my cycle, but my speeds were never throttled although I was told they were. I would say that is what happened with those it "worked" got.

Yeah cI just dont like the idea of messin with the system that much and I mean my phone's system. I dont mind doing root and doing little things but my phone has run like a champ since day one and I got it about two weeks after relese date. I waited for the GB update to come and my phone still ran fine after that although I did not see much improvement. I was not impressed with the GB update so I rooted the phone. I am afraid that if I keep messin with it I am going to ruin a good thing. I should be happy with what I got. I am running xboarders tweeked ota and it runs like a champ. If I screw around and brick my phone I have no one to blame but myself.

I just got off the phone with customer service and it turns out that you. An get a 10 gig data cap plan. I think it was $55 it brought my monthly bill to 95+ tax
Its not that bad now I also have unlimited texting AZ well. This month I used 4.6 gigs so far and 60 minutes and 3 texts and I have 5 days left I. My bill. Cycle
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princeasi said:
Dayum I thought I consider myself a heavy data user and I generally use a tad over 2gb/month lol.
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2 gigs is enough for anyone who doesn't stream a lot of video. When I see these people who use 5 gigs in 10 days I know they have to just be living on netflix.
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Im a power user i stay on wifi when i can or use 2g if its just a basic app like xda or pulse been 3 weeks only used 1.45gb
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I dont do alot of video althought I do do some dut I am constsantly on Sirius-xm and fm radio. Also I use weather and news widges hat take up alot. I also use google music which You can make music available off line but that doesnt always work it still uses alot. I do a fair amout of going on youtube but in no way it is close to most of my data
Charlie

Thanks for all the input. Like I said I have no available wifi at work and also tethering to my netbook frequently during the month too. I like I'm just going to run into t mo and see about either upgrading data plan or adding a tether plan. I'll post a result. Also for those rooted, try out the miui rom. Much different from when I flashed it months ago. Fast, smooth, stable, and just well... Works! Never been so happy
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hockeyman18 said:
Let's face it, 5 gb of data is nowhere near enough for one month! I've seen posts about how to rid your phone of being throttled. Before I go through with this, has anyone done this yet? Looking to see if t-mobile caught on to anyone and said anything. Thanks!
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I totally agree! I originally thought I was grandfathered in to the old unlimited data plan, but I got throttled about 15 days into last month! Essentially makes the phone completely useless for anything but calling or texting which oddly enough is not what I use this phone for the most. I got a google music beta account last month, uploaded my entire collection and have been streaming over my phone at work. Apparently google does not compress the audio stream and it ate up my bandwidth quite fast!
The thing that gets me about this is that I have been paying for the most expensive plan they have, I'm now at almost 100 a month and I still have only 500 minutes, and am throttled at 5gb. It just seems like I get less and less as the price goes up. Once more they told me that the 10gb limit plan was not compatible with my plan??!?! WTF??? Granted, I would rather be throttled instead of charged for the overage, but I still feel like I am being completely jipped by this whole thing. They also told me when I was on the phone complaining, that they were now going to start charging me for tethering as well, REALLY?!?!?! I thought that was rather amusing, and would have laughed at the rep, if I wasn't so pissed off about rest of the conversation I was having with them.
Ironically they offer all kinds of t-mobile sponsored apps for HD video streaming and the like, which a heavy user might get maybe 1/3 of the month of use out of. I just really don't understand the direction that carriers are taking these days. Its definitely not in the best interest of the consumers.

It's so easy to get around tethering charges that they might as well not even exist. Even a friend of mine who's so tech-illiterate he doesn't even update his market apps figured out a way.
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ZenDragon80 said:
I totally agree! I originally thought I was grandfathered in to the old unlimited data plan, but I got throttled about 15 days into last month! Essentially makes the phone completely useless for anything but calling or texting which oddly enough is not what I use this phone for the most. I got a google music beta account last month, uploaded my entire collection and have been streaming over my phone at work. Apparently google does not compress the audio stream and it ate up my bandwidth quite fast!
The thing that gets me about this is that I have been paying for the most expensive plan they have, I'm now at almost 100 a month and I still have only 500 minutes, and am throttled at 5gb. It just seems like I get less and less as the price goes up. Once more they told me that the 10gb limit plan was not compatible with my plan??!?! WTF??? Granted, I would rather be throttled instead of charged for the overage, but I still feel like I am being completely jipped by this whole thing. They also told me when I was on the phone complaining, that they were now going to start charging me for tethering as well, REALLY?!?!?! I thought that was rather amusing, and would have laughed at the rep, if I wasn't so pissed off about rest of the conversation I was having with them.
Ironically they offer all kinds of t-mobile sponsored apps for HD video streaming and the like, which a heavy user might get maybe 1/3 of the month of use out of. I just really don't understand the direction that carriers are taking these days. Its definitely not in the best interest of the consumers.
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You and I are in the same boat. I use google music everyday including both ways on an atlantic city trip last weekend.. Ate my data alive. I'm also in a grand fathered plan which I may which out of. Heading into tmo after work today. I feel I'd have better luck in person than over the phone. Plus if they give me a hard time I'll root all their androids, install custom roms, and have customers go back to the store because it wasn't like the phone they saw
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Just my 2 cents, being well versed in corporate routing and switching, throttling is handle at a hard ware level either on the router by your ip address or on the swtich by your mac address. Doing anthing locally to your phone isnt going to bypass throttling in anyway. Youre taking a gamble trying to hack you phone to bypass this, if anything the only thing that your seeing is a placebo effect.

okay a couple of things first to those using the google musice beta you can make your whole music collection available offline so you dont use your data just look aty the settings and if you can do it over wifi so you dont use any bandwith.
Second to the people who want to change your plan and add gigs to data you have to change your plan to the new value plan which is cheaper by about 10 bucks then you can add a unlimited data with a 10 gig high speed cap. I did it yesterday over the phone and I usually have no luck with customer service but I actually got one who spoke perfect english and understood exactly what I wanted to do. I almost fell over of a heart attack it was great. They transfered the rep that I usually dealt with in my local store. The new ass that replaced him was tring to sell me the LG slate which is a sweet tablet but not what I wanted. He had the balls to tell me that there was a $300 migration fee to change to the new value plan from my at the time current even more 500 plan I was on. When I told the customer service rep that she started laughing and said he was full of **** and not in those words. Cant wait to go back to that store and give him a pice of my mind. but anyway sorry to go off on your post I hope this helps ytou guys with the G music problems.
Charlie

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Its done from tmobile's servers. No way around it ): unless you can sneak into the servers at tmobile's headquarters on a stealth mission and hack their mainframe by holding "x".
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i'm sorry, you say that and all i can think of is Freddy Wong's vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_wS497CIQ