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[Q] Are Google services be causing higher battery drain

I've been playing with random ROMs recently and have noticed my 'roids acting up.
Upon install of a new kernel/ROM, I bypass the Android/Google services setup pages that show up on initial boot. That gives me the baseline battery drain. It's only when I start to use Google services (like the Market) that it requires me to activate via a Google acct. After the activation, I see the increased battery drain.
Specifically, my battery discharge increases ~2.7x (idle) after I provide my Google account information to access the Market. After I provide the account creds, the GMail app starts working and I receive notifications of new emails.
I've got a theory that the GMail app or another Google app is polling/pulling instead of using the GMail/Google service to push the data and that this is using additional CPU.
Is this theory correct? Has anyone else seen this behavior?
P.S. My service provider, Verizon, uses a NAT (IP 10.xxx). I can't see how any external service can push anything through a NAT unless it has special access through the NAT. Can Google?
P.S.S. I know I can disable background data and auto-sync via Settings--> Accounts & Sync. It seems to fix the problem but I can't pin it down specifically to an app/service.
- Samsung Droid Charge
- Verizon Wireless 4G
- kernel 2.6.32.9 imnuts at virtualbox 1
- Humble 1.51 EE4 Android Froyo (currently)

Any help?
Anyone? I've received no responses and this seems like a question that could affect a large number of Android users.

Hi!
2 things I've done recently seem to have "removed" Google services from my battery usage when idle.
1.Using Titanium Backup/Menu/Market Tools/Market Auto Updates/Deselect all and Save auto Updates configuration.
2.Go Maps/More/Location History and then press the back button and go Menu/Settings /Location reporting/Location Reporting-Do not update your location+disable Location history+sign out of Latitude.The first 2 I've always done but signing out of Latitude seemed to make the difference.(Disable both Check ins).
There are obviously the other usual battery saving settings but these 2 got rid of Google Services.
HTH.
Galaxy S
Darky JW1 Base
Semaphore 2.2.0 Kernel
Modem ZSJPG

If you have no other regular apps working the background, google services as gmail or gtalk or contacts sync or calendar will surely increase battery usage, but it should be in the dimension of 2.7 times.

Battery life
Battery now down to 26% from full with 2d 1h 48m on battery.Google services has gone from 80%+ to 2%.Couple of screenshots attached.This Google services thing is not the only answer to battery life problems but there's always something running in the background doing the damage.HTH.

I've noticed that when I've got my EVO active on WiFi there's some significant network traffic between it and Google even when the device seems idle. I also have a cell phone repeater in my basement that shows activity when I so much as hit the power button to unlock the phone. Feels like there's stuff going on with some of those apps that maybe excessive and, yeah, that could impact battery drain. It certainly can't be good for it.

it is indeed.

Launcher?
Changed from TW Launcher to Go at about the same time as fiddling with Google Services above.Could it be that this has also made a difference.It has been a big improvement whatever it is.
Phone:Galaxy S I9000
Modem:XXJVQ
Romarky JW1 Base
Kernel:Semaphore 2.4.0
Launcher:Go
Theme:Honeycomb

Latest Edition of Google Maps and Battery Life

After installing the latest edition of Google Maps, I noticed that it was using between 13-18% of my battery (after approx. 9 hours off the charger). I never opened Maps or Navigation, and when looking at its battery use, it's "stay awake" time was 0s.
I do have Google location services enabled, but as I said, I never used the Maps app or any other application that would require the use of standalone GPS services. And I always keep standalone (and VZW) location services off unless navigating. This was never a problem on older versions of Google Maps - is anyone else having this problem?
I also noticed my battery life was incrementally worse with this happening, which makes sense seeing as Google Maps ranks third behind Cell Standby and Screen on my battery usage log.
Any information or advice would be much appreciated!

minnysota said:
After installing the latest edition of Google Maps, I noticed that it was using between 13-18% of my battery (after approx. 9 hours off the charger). I never opened Maps or Navigation, and when looking at its battery use, it's "stay awake" time was 0s.
I do have Google location services enabled, but as I said, I never used the Maps app or any other application that would require the use of standalone GPS services. And I always keep standalone (and VZW) location services off unless navigating. This was never a problem on older versions of Google Maps - is anyone else having this problem?
I also noticed my battery life was incrementally worse with this happening, which makes sense seeing as Google Maps ranks third behind Cell Standby and Screen on my battery usage log.
Any information or advice would be much appreciated!
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All apps that use Location Services at all will show up as "Maps" in battery stats, so it can be really tricky to figure out which app is actually causing the problem. It's most likely an updated third-party app that has location permissions. Have you updated any other apps recently?
Recently, this happened to me with 1Weather - their update had some bug that caused the LocationServices service to run continuously, which led to Maps taking up the majority of my battery without using it. Uninstalled, and that fixed the problem.

scorchedsky said:
All apps that use Location Services at all will show up as "Maps" in battery stats, so it can be really tricky to figure out which app is actually causing the problem. It's most likely an updated third-party app that has location permissions. Have you updated any other apps recently?
Recently, this happened to me with 1Weather - their update had some bug that caused the LocationServices service to run continuously, which led to Maps taking up the majority of my battery without using it. Uninstalled, and that fixed the problem.
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That's interesting. The only apps I have that could have had location settings turned on were Facebook (chat), Flixster and Chrome. I turned off the location in Facebook chat, and the Flixster app says it uses network location only, so that shouldn't be an issue, right?
Also, I left location on for Chrome seeing as that would be the main benefit to keeping Google location services on.
I'll report back, hopefully the culprit was Facebook chat.
As a side not, uninstalling the Google Maps updates seems to have solved the problem, but I'd rather have the most up-to-date version of Maps.
If anyone else has any thoughts, I would really appreciate hearing them!

I froze maps and Google now and went from almost constant awake times overnight to nothing. Was losing 20% overnight sometimes. I don't use Google now and un freeze maps when I need navigation.
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scorchedsky said:
All apps that use Location Services at all will show up as "Maps" in battery stats, so it can be really tricky to figure out which app is actually causing the problem. It's most likely an updated third-party app that has location permissions. Have you updated any other apps recently?
Recently, this happened to me with 1Weather - their update had some bug that caused the LocationServices service to run continuously, which led to Maps taking up the majority of my battery without using it. Uninstalled, and that fixed the problem.
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Thanks for the info on this, I've been wondering what's up with the maps battery usage.

[CM10A4][i9003]{Possible solutions} Wakelocks

I was searching around for solutions to help me with my massive battery drain in CM10 A4 for these 2 days and I realised little emphasis had been put on "wakelocks" in our i9003 forums; so I thought some discussion here would be nice to help all of us, especially relatively new people like me.
A detailed explanation can be found in ahalford's thread; and also in the XDA wiki. Below is just what I managed to sort out for our device, specifically CM10 A4 (not sure about applicability in other ROMs).
Wakelocks are identifiable via BetterBatteryStats and I would like to mention a few of them that I could identify (and if possible, solve). My purpose here is just to share some info that I managed to find and if possible provide some guide based on my own experience.
In CM10 A4, I uninstalled:
Google Search
Google Maps
News & weather
Google Backup Transport
CM Wallpapers
Android Live Wallpapers and its associated LWPs
Spare Parts
GTalk
Movie Studio
Certificate Installer
Wakelocks identified:
1. RILJ
Easiest way to solve: Flash the fixed kernel by loSconosciuto. Personally tested it on CM10A4, and SlimBean v3.1; both worked. Just screen off/on and the signals will return.
Alternatively, put the phone to Airplane Mode (I left my WiFi on), reboot. Then leave it to screen off for some minutes, and turn off the Airplane Mode. The signal bars may not return as of yet; so just DC and reconnect the WiFi. Signal bars return, RILJ stopped. :victory:
2. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice UNSOLVED
Attempts: Removed GTalk (but problem persisted); Auto-Sync off; and disabled location settings.
Also worth to mention it occurred only when WiFi was on; didn't test it on mobile data (I don't have one).
Attempts of freezing apps: (Still investigating)
Search Application Provider
Network Location
com.android.backupconfirm
Google xxxx Sync (Contacts, Calendar, etc)
* Others recommended to sign out from Google account, and re-add (but I have no experience on this).
* Also somebody was talking about disabling GTalk-related services in Google Framework Services using Autorun Manager (or similar); but it didn't work for me.
3. AudioOut_2
Perhaps not a wakelock. If the time matches time of you opening any games/app that produce sound; it should be normal and should stop after exiting application.
* Saw a thread that this may happen if the app did not exit properly (e.g. here)
Any input/discussion would be greatly appreciated.
Will update more whenever I have time! Thanks!

cheeyeen said:
2. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice[/B]
Solution: Removed GTalk (but problem persisted). Stopped it by freezing a few apps via TitaniumBackup but the exact way to do it is still unknown, currently trying to rule out the below one by one.
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I think for 2nd wakeclocks you have to turnoff Auto-sync from setting.Double check your setting.Though there is not perticular button to turnoff Autosync in CM10 you have to use widgets to turnoff autosync.
And go to Play store settings disable all tick.That may be solve second one.

nicsptl said:
I think for 2nd wakeclocks you have to turnoff Auto-sync from setting.Double check your setting.Though there is not perticular button to turnoff Autosync in CM10 you have to use widgets to turnoff autosync.
And go to Play store settings disable all tick.That may be solve second one.
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Thanks. Actually it was solved, but I forgot to mention that. I just didn't know how it went solving lol :laugh: And yeah, Auto Sync off via power buttons in notification drawer and verified from the account settings.

BAM_DMUX_Wakelock Issues after 5.1 OTA

I know that the battery life issue after 5.1 has been addressed in these forums, but I want to make a specific thread about this problem in particular that many other are experiencing too and it doesn't seem to be addressed in here, at least not recently (There's a thread from 2012 that doesn't give much info).
So the thing is that ever since updating to 5.1, my battery doesn't last nearly as long as it used to. I'm using a couple of apps to try to diagnose the problem and I've found a this particular wakelock: bam_dmux_wakelock is what's keeping my phone awake. I also noticed that Google Play Services is what's using more energy than it used to. This wakelock is only present when using mobile data, although when using wifi the wlan wakelock family is also present, but those wakelock are not as long as the bam_dmux_wakelock, but they do keep the phone awake for a considerable amount of time.
Booting in safe mode does not help. Restricting mobile data access to Google Play Store and Google Play Services makes no difference either. I did some Googling and learned that I can disable some Google Services that were always running: BackupTransportService (I have backup disabled), WearableService (No idea why this was running since I've never even turned on bluetooth since I updated to 5.1, let alone pair my device with any wearable device), AnalyticsService and DeviceConnectionServiceBroker.
No dice. Wakelock is still keeping the phone awake.
There' still 5 other services that I'm not sure I should disable: GMSCoreStatsService (No idea what this does), GoogleLocationService and GoogleLocationManagerService (I don't why these are running since location has been disabled for weeks), PendingIntentCallbackService (No idea what this does), ConfigFetchService (No idea) an GCM Service (I think this is important, it has to do with push notification).
If you have more info on these services, please let me know. I don't want to mess with anything I don't know. I've stopped the location services but they come right back up. No idea why.
So, summing up, this is what I know:
- The bam_dmux_wakelock is responsabile for keeping my phone awake
- It only appears when in mobile data (not in WIFI)
- Google Play Services is what's using more energy than before
- Disabling sync does not help
- I've made two factory resets (from settings and from recovery), nothing.
- Restricting mobile data access to Google Play Store and GP Services makes no difference
- Disabling running services doesn't help either.
Is anybody else experiencing this and did you find a solution? I'm getting real sick of this, and I'm considering flashing a custom ROM for the first time in my life.

Google Play Services Drain

I was looking at my girlfriends phone to compare some battery stats and was astounded to see that Google play services was draining 45% of the battery.
As it's not my phone don't really have the time to do any serious diagnostics at the moment, and wanted to know if anyone had/had solved a similar issue?
Appreciate the help

Welcome to Android

b1337 said:
Welcome to Android
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Haha I am a lifelong android user, just haven't had a Google phone since my 6p.
Just wondering if there are any known issues as I wont have the opportunity to do the gsam/betterbatterystats debug that I would otherwise do as it's my girlfriends phone
Also the fact its draining 2% a minute when in use is insane :silly:

Try the beta and see if that helps.

Usually, google play services drains are related to sync. The account/google play/other google service is trying to sync but not connecting, so it just continually tries to reconnect. Try turning off sync and see if the problem goes away. It might be syncing in areas with weak signal is causing the problem.

I just checked my Pixel 3 and Google Play Services does not show up on my battery usage chart. Only Nova Launcher (3%), Google Play Store (2%), Outlook (2%) and BlueMail (1%). I have been trying out different email programs for the last couple of hours and just ran the current security upgrade.

whbrittain said:
I just checked my Pixel 3 and Google Play Services does not show up on my battery usage chart. Only Nova Launcher (3%), Google Play Store (2%), Outlook (2%) and BlueMail (1%). I have been trying out different email programs for the last couple of hours and just ran the current security upgrade.
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You have show system apps by hitting the 3 dots, although the problem hasn't come back since playing with some settings and a reboot