HOW DO I STOP MY HTC Desire S 4rm AUTO LOGS OFF (i.e.Hot Restart multiple times.) - HTC Desire S

Since after rooting my HTC Desire S phone and Installing Custom ROM - Fallout_Evolution_V5.0, Everytime I turn off my phone and start it again It comes on and restart itself, It does not reboot from scratch but does something called HOT RESTART (like when logging off a computer). Also it sometimes freezes. I have tried to check for ROM updates but the but it never goes through. Its not worse than ever, Yesterday my phone when through HOT Restart a million times it took all day and I couldn't even use it. and its been like that for a while now.
Device Details
HTC Desire S
Android 2.3.5 - default
Android 4.03 - Current
Software Number - Fallout Evolution V5.0.0
Device History
Originally Android 2.3.5
Unroot
Locked HBoot and S-ON
Unlocked HBoot and S-ON
Rooted using HTC_QuickRoot_1.1.13_Release
Installed SuperSU
Flashed Custom ROM
Installed Custom ROM - Fallout Evolution V5.0.0
Troubleshooting Attempts
Tried looking for a ROM Update -- Failed
Tried Reducing Startup App -- Failed
Uninstalled Some Apps --- Failed
Removed Battery ---- Failed
Replace Battery ---- Failed
Sent Reports to HTC ---- Failed
Please Can someone Help troubleshoot this Problem?
Please Note: Rude Comments are not Appreciated, Every solution given would be useful for me and many other Users experiencing the same issue, and please be clear and precise. I have searched the forum and did not find a solution to this specific problem, Please help out Kindly.and receive a Thank You Notification

I'm going to report this thread anyway. You asked this in the 'Noob Questions' thread, and then opened your own thread for the same question. That is against the rules of XDA.

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SimonTS said:
I'm going to report this thread anyway. You asked this in the 'Noob Questions' thread, and then opened your own thread for the same question. That is against the rules of XDA.
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@SimonTS, If you notice, I said no rude comment and also stade in Bold "be clear and precise", your reply is so pointless to my question. and It was Wise of me to create a new thread in regards to my issue. I initially posted under Noobs Thread thinking I would get a quick response But then I realised they are so many request on his thread and since mine was peculiar and more technical I found it wise to create a new thread for better result.
Moreover, I saw your reply to my Request Under Noobs Thread and you didn't even have a Precise solution for me neither could you help me, and not to even talk of it, You are the only one who did make an attempt to give a solution It seems no one else has knows How to resolve it. Please next time before making comments like this, always think twice and see reasons to ones idea.

Topzturvins07 said:
@SimonTS, If you notice, I said no rude comment and also stade in Bold "be clear and precise", your reply is so pointless to my question. and It was Wise of me to create a new thread in regards to my issue. I initially posted under Noobs Thread thinking I would get a quick response But then I realised they are so many request on his thread and since mine was peculiar and more technical I found it wise to create a new thread for better result.
Moreover, I saw your reply to my Request Under Noobs Thread and you didn't even have a Precise solution for me neither could you help me, and not to even talk of it, You are the only one who did make an attempt to give a solution It seems no one else has knows How to resolve it. Please next time before making comments like this, always think twice and see reasons to ones idea.
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I don't need to see the reasons behind your double-posting - it is against the rules of XDA. If that is too confusing then that's your problem, not mine.
I did reply to you on the 'Noob' thread with a few ideas, but you didn't bother coming back to say whether any of those things had worked or not - you can't expect assistance if you don't provide information. I didn't have a "Precise solution" (as you put it), because 99.9% of the 'problems' that people report on here are caused by them not reading, not understanding or simply diving in and then regretting it.
In one of the other threads you created (about rooting) you stated
I didnt try HTC Dev bcoz its process was a bit confusing and since They said Quick root does it all I thought.
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If HTC Dev is too confusing and "They said quick root does it all I thought" then you need to do far more reading - HTC Dev is simple and straightforward.
Yes, it is possible that you have a really, really rare fault that only applies to you because you are special, but it is extremely unlikely. As for developing an attitude with the people who have put many, many hours into helping other users on here and also tried to help you - not a good idea.
You signed up to XDA, asked your questions about rooting and then went off-line for a month. You came back, asked these questions about your strange problem and then disappeared for three weeks. XDA is a COMMUNITY, not a help-desk. If you want to pay me (or one of the other guys who know far more than I do) for us to act as a helpdesk then it's not a problem - the standard industry rates are $120 per hour.
Oh, and as a PS - but I'm sure that you searched and found this - HTC Desire S > Desire S General > FAST BOOT have you tried disabling Fast Boot as a lot of apps really don't like it.

Anyone Here to Help?
Hello everyone,
PLease can someone help me here, Please help me resolve my initial Problem. Please see First Post abovehttp://1.2.3.11/bmi/forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/good.gif
Please do not mind SimonTS Post, I created a new thread so as to allow experience and expert developers view and help resolve this issue. I initailly posted in NOOBs Help and Troubleshooting Thread, Not until I realised that there were over 100 threads and request under that forum, which I then realised that my request might not be solved due to the technical difficulties involved and I was right No one except simon was able to reply to it (and yet not solved).
Please Can someone Help me Out Here? Its been 3 weeks without a solution. Thnaks
:fingers-crossed:

Be wise and Be careful
@SimonTS, You clearly are naive and lack some essential skills like Wisdom.
You fail to realise, that some people have got other important work aside from their Phones and their work takes most of their time rather than them toying with their phone. If I did know how to troubleshoot my phone properly, I wouldn't have bothered putting up a post on here. And Yeah, I did get answers from wise and expert people on here but not from you. I Never asked for you to be troubled by my post and is My post aches your eyes then take your eyes off my Post. I do not need you to comment on this post if you do not have anything positive to say in regards to my request and if you're Tired of helping people on this forum kindly remove yourself from it. No one forced you to Help out, you volunteered to willingly and if it upsets you in helping people resolve their query, Like you said
because 99.9% of the 'problems' that people report on here are caused by them not reading, not understanding or simply diving in and then regretting it.
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then deactivate your account and stop helping. It is called "Customer Friendly and Volunteering". You do not need to act unwisely if someone ask for you help, If you can't help then don't help.

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Hi
1. Hae you tried to reinstall the rom
2. Have you flashed boot.img from that rom ( fallout )
3. Have you tried another rom
4. Do you perform < full wipe > before flashing
5. Have you checked whether your device's battery sits firmly in its place
if there are any movements it is likely to cause reboots
5.may try to update your bootloader and radio to the latest( not directly related but...)
6. You may also try to start from skratch:
- lock bootloader
-flash ics ruu
-unlock bootloader
- flash recovery
-flash superuser.zip ( or a prerooted rom )
Check whether it happens on other drivers ( roms )
try a few...
By the time you'll finish to try all options you'll know whether this is software or hardware issue...
Neither I, nor anyone else, sits next to your phone so only you have a chance to fully test it
Edit: whatever approach of the answers may be,
be certain that we all try to help without any discrimination,
This is a free forum, and the users are ussualy discouraged in demanding anything...
None of XDA members is paid for giving a hand or for their work,
this is free and good will what drives us all here, to learn, share and teach what we know...

this will start a flame war soon. anyway, the members here are helping you. but somehow you are bashing them up their advice. I take it as you are new... people here are generally friendly and knowledgeable. when I bricked my desire s for the first time, it was @SimonTS who helped me got my DS alive and kicking again. just because your issue is more technical, doesn't give you the right to post multiple times. in my few months here, I learnt that this is a dev forum, not a child playground for you to throw tantrums
P. S rooting isn't for you
Sent from my supercharged :tank:

Hi
Let me start by offering you some friendly advice. You are the guy with the one weird problem nobody else seems to have. You are the new member, or 'noob' if you wish. Therefore you would do well to behave in a courteous and non-wise-ass-y manner towards your fellow XDA forum members. You have no rights to demand anything from us, you are asking for our advice and it's only in your best interest to try to get on our good side rather than our bad side.
Now, as for your problem. The most likely reason is that the kernel you're running is incompatible with the modules your ROM is shipping. I.e.: you made a #1 new-user mistake and did not (correctly) flash the boot.img of your new ROM.
A second possibility is that there's genuinely something wrong with either your ROM or your device itself.
To check for both issues at the same time, please do the following:
Reboot your phone
Create a dmesg ('adb shell dmesg') and a logcat ('adb logcat') log
Use your phone until the problem occurs
Immediately after, create a new dmesg and logcat
Post all four logs
Thank you for your co-operation

hisname said:
this will start a flame war soon. :
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Sadly, you may be right about that...
So now, when our younger member has been given a few pointers,
( moderators seem to be very patient with us this time )
we could draw a thick line under this
and sit back to the table- shall we...
We are all friends here, or should be....

Thanks for your suggestions.
asgardr said:
Hi
1. Hae you tried to reinstall the rom
2. Have you flashed boot.img from that rom ( fallout )
3. Have you tried another rom
4. Do you perform < full wipe > before flashing
5. Have you checked whether your device's battery sits firmly in its place
if there are any movements it is likely to cause reboots
5.may try to update your bootloader and radio to the latest( not directly related but...)
6. You may also try to start from skratch:
- lock bootloader
-flash ics ruu
-unlock bootloader
- flash recovery
-flash superuser.zip ( or a prerooted rom )
Check whether it happens on other drivers ( roms )
try a few...
By the time you'll finish to try all options you'll know whether this is software or hardware issue...
Neither I, nor anyone else, sits next to your phone so only you have a chance to fully test it
Edit: whatever approach of the answers may be,
be certain that we all try to help without any discrimination,
This is a free forum, and the users are ussualy discouraged in demanding anything...
None of XDA members is paid for giving a hand or for their work,
this is free and good will what drives us all here, to learn, share and teach what we know...
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Thank you @asgardr , When I rooted my HTC Desire S, I followed this guide ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100) posted by @n0elite. It was simple and easy and I did flash the boot.img, I have checked the battery and even changed my battery it is certainly not the battery fault. Although, I haven't tried to reinstall the ROM because I didn't want to follow the same guide in case something was missing in it. I have also tried reading other threads on here but I am not sure of which Guide to follow because I came across some negative comments on it. I haven't tried another ROM yet and thats because I do not know of any Updated ROM and most people seem to say the "Fallout v5.0.0" is most recent.
However, I have tried to find an update on the fallout but haven't found one, I also have SuperSU installed but I don't know how to tweak it and therefore haven't tampered with it so as not to cause damage to my phone. I know some losers on here would say why didn't I try any of these or make any attempt to. Well my reasons are well best known to me, I lost some data on my last rooting even though I tried backing up all my data, some of my previous apps failed to work and I lost previous progress on some of my important work in which i was working on due to compatibility issues. Therefore, I am trying to thread carefully and make my research and findings before making any attempts on my phone or I could loose the all phone all together.
I do appreciate your solutions and clicked on the thanks button because only you have been sensible and helpful on this matter and precise without going of point and being rude and insultive.
TO others
@Aquous You have no rights to demand anything from us, you are asking for our advice and it's only in your best interest to try to get on our good side rather than our bad side.
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Please not I wasn't demanding anything from you, I asked The XDA-developers Forum and no one is bragging rights with you. anyways thanks for your suggestion.
@hisname, this will start a flame war soon. anyway, the members here are helping you. but somehow you are bashing them up their advice. I take it as you are new... people here are generally friendly and knowledgeable. when I bricked my desire s for the first time, it was @SimonTS who helped me got my DS alive and kicking again. just because your issue is more technical, doesn't give you the right to post multiple times. in my few months here, I learnt that this is a dev forum, not a child playground for you to throw tantrums
P. S rooting isn't for you
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I am a web Designer, and Yeah rooting is not my field so Why force it on me, and If my multiple post disturbs you, why didn't you reply to the my initial post?
Thanks once again @asgardr:good:

asgardr said:
Sadly, you may be right about that...
So now, when our younger member has been given a few pointers,
( moderators seem to be very patient with us this time )
we could draw a thick line under this
and sit back to the table- shall we...
We are all friends here, or should be....
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@asgardr, Thanks for your humble attitude, Exactly what is expected from all users, Humble and friendly approach. Please can you recommend to me any Custom ROM and Recovery that is very at least 90% or more efficient and most up to date? as I shall try what all your suggestions again. Thanks.

After unlocking bootloader installing recovery, rooting,.....
flashing a custom rom is a matter of rebooting into recovery, flashing the rom.zip
and afterwards boot.img via fastboot- that's all you'd need to do...
Redownloding and reflashing the rom again
( after wiping clean all partitions-in recovery )
very often corrects some errors and bugs, happening within the system,
after the first flash...
This is the link to the kernel thread,
( sense4_boot.img , as well supports fallout rom)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845039
which may also be an option on the way to resolve this
rather rare device's malfunction
Edit: 4ext recovery is said to be most efficient for our device.
I'am still using clockworkmod touch 5.8.1.5 though, and all is fine on my end....
Most of the time, my device's daily drivers including htc sense in it are:
-ViperSaga ( sense 4.1 full )
-DesireXS ( sense 4.1 lite )
-Endymion 3.5 ( almost perfect- my favorite for a very long time )
These roms are my personal choices...
but, to tell the truth, I did not try every single one from the whole array,
so, among others available, one still may find very nice surprise....

@Topzturvins07 I'm not sure if you are just insanely stubborn or not, but at the same time as I originally reported this as a duplicate thread, I posted a reply to you in the 'Noob Thread' as below;-
Verify the checksum of the ROM first. Carry out a full wipe and reflash, try running with no apps installed and see if the problem still happens.
Disable 'fast boot' from the settings.
Try a different ROM, although I have no problems with Fallout on my old DS.
Make sure you haven't installed any task-killers.
Describe better what actually happens and what you see on screen.
Just a few suggestions.
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You never bothered to reply to my post and provide more information. The only real description you have given of the problem is (probably because you are not a techie person) very vague and unhelpful. I have worked in customer support and consultancy for 20 years now and the biggest problem when you can't actually see the problem for yourself is trying to get a user to describe exactly and precisely what is going on.
If you want to ask for help then you need to answer the questions that are asked of you by the very people whose help you desire. Communication requires two-way talk, and you will find that the people willing to help on here do not ask questions simply for the fun of it.

Topzturvins07 said:
why didn't you reply to the my initial post?
the reason is simple, you don't deserve it
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Topzturvins07 said:
Please not I wasn't demanding anything from you, I asked The XDA-developers Forum and no one is bragging rights with you. anyways thanks for your suggestion.
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Very well, if I misread you I humbly apologize. Writing isn't the easiest medium to convey emotions
Now, if you could post those two dmesg and logcat logs I asked for? I am confident they will shed more light on where exactly your issues come from.

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Aquous said:
Now, if you could post those two dmesg and logcat logs I asked for? I am confident they will shed more light on where exactly your issues come from.
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Well despite not knowing how to generate the Logcat and dmesg, I was able to get a guide from @blindndumb and I came up with loads of Junks I can't interpret. You'll find in attach three txt file,
one is the :
dmesg.txt
logcat1.txt (before sudden logoff)
logcat2.txt (after the first sudden logoff)
logcat3.txt (after the second sudden logoff)
Please help yourself, because I cannot interpret what is produced.

Well, this is peculiar. I was expecting to see loads of '<service> has died' errors in your logcat, because that is usually the cause of a spontaneous hot restart. Your logcat actually looks rather normal.
Was the dmesg log taken directly after a hot restart?
Also, could you please reboot your phone and take another dmesg immediately after the system has finished loading? I'm mostly interested in the log of the boot-up, which has unfortunately been completely overwritten by a slur of error messages (which are completely normal by the way, it's the result of a debugging option that's enabled in the stock kernel sources and the guy who compiled your kernel probably forgot to turn that off).

Aquous said:
Well, this is peculiar. I was expecting to see loads of '<service> has died' errors in your logcat, because that is usually the cause of a spontaneous hot restart. Your logcat actually looks rather normal.
Was the dmesg log taken directly after a hot restart?
Also, could you please reboot your phone and take another dmesg immediately after the system has finished loading? I'm mostly interested in the log of the boot-up, which has unfortunately been completely overwritten by a slur of error messages (which are completely normal by the way, it's the result of a debugging option that's enabled in the stock kernel sources and the guy who compiled your kernel probably forgot to turn that off).
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I have tried a couple of time to catch all the logcat report but there seem to be a million lines of logs immediately I start the phone and they all run within a blink of an eye, and my CMD cannot hold back so many. The ones you see is what I could retrieve but I could try changing the properties of my cmd and see if I can catch more of it.

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New Here: I need help

So I've tried reading through some of the introduction threads, but there's so many jargon terms thrown out casually that I have no idea what half the posts are talking about.
I just "exchanged" my old AT&T Tilt for the AT&T Fuze, and I'm loving it. However, I want to update my ROM to windows mobile 6.5, and get into customizing it a bit. I know the first part is the hardest, because you run the risk of bricking the phone.
Since I have no experience doing this, could someone help walk me through the process?
I know I most likely want a 'cooked' ROM, and I've read the tutorial a few times, I'm just not sure I'm understanding it correctly due to some of the terminology. I'm also not entirely sure what ROM I want yet, and was hoping someone might be able to point me towards one that fits my needs.
Again, sorry if I'm asking when I just just be leaping. Will someone please hold my hand and give me some chocolate milk and talk me through changing the ROM? >.<
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
well if you had clicked his link you would realize that post is exactly what you were asking for.
also. No one can pick out a ROM for you. Browse through them and test a few out. it only takes a few moments to flash a new ROM to your phone.
What terminology are you having trouble with? if you search for it in the wiki or in the post that was linked above then you will undoubtedly find an explanation.
A good site for general overview, if you can handle the writing style, is blown fuze. I gained a lot of info reading this, even though I don't have a Fuze yet (but would like to get one).
Dracius said:
Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
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take the time to click the link and it will provide you all the instructions needed. Everything is explained in full detail even providing the program you need to flash a new rom, so you should really really click before you complain.
trust me, that link on flashing your first gsm rom is as complete as you get, unless you want big pretty pictures or a video.
mputtr said:
take the time to click the link and it will provide you all the instructions needed. Everything is explained in full detail even providing the program you need to flash a new rom, so you should really really click before you complain.
trust me, that link on flashing your first gsm rom is as complete as you get, unless you want big pretty pictures or a video.
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TO THE OP
Having looked at all the stickies first rom flashing looks easier on this than on my old wizard. I found the sim unlocking,cid and super cid unlocking at first but I read everything twice and it worked okay for me
And if it doesnt then there are plenty of people here who can help
Dracius said:
Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
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Perhaps flashing is not in your future.
theoneeye said:
TO THE OP
Having looked at all the stickies first rom flashing looks easier on this than on my old wizard. I found the sim unlocking,cid and super cid unlocking at first but I read everything twice and it worked okay for me
And if it doesnt then there are plenty of people here who can help
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Thank you for actually reading my post, I greatly appreciate it.
To everyone else, I DID click the link, and read it several times before even posting. If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed I referenced it several times. I took the time to read before posting, you could at least have the civil decency to do the same.
@ Theoneeye, thank you for the assurance, I tracked down someone who was able to answer some ROM questions for me and help me find a good starting ROM and assist me with the process to make sure I don't brick my phone on my first go at it.
Normally I just try things like this, and if it fails, try again until it works. However, since I read up on this first (even though everyone here seems to think I didn't) I know I run the risk of bricking my phone. Since I've gone through several exchanges already to get this phone for free (long story) I don't wanna be swapping another phone so soon.
To those who still bother to read posts, any input you can provide on your ROM choices, or the other half of my post regarding some things I should look into installing, I would appreciate it.
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
wow. I'm surprised. If you actually read through the link several times and you still did not get it, you were skimming it or you really really do not have a strong grasp on the english language.
Hell, it's even numbered. How much easier would you prefer. If you want suggestions for ROM choices, it is entirely up to you. Every rom has their own unique "style" that they offer and they describe it all in the first post. Energy, NATF, etc all explain their roms in great details and some even provide extra steps.
My blunt suggestion here is that before you tell others to **** off for referring you to where everyone else has use as reference and successfully performed a flash, you should save your rudeness for yourself. Also, if you have any questions on terminology, ask which jargon is throwing you a wrench in your direction following process. That would make it much easier to explain.
P.S: seriously read through that damn sticky, it is as clear as a swarovski crystal. Follow it step by step and don't "do your thing" and you'll have a successful flash.
btw. way to be a jackass to those who have already given you the answers you asked for.
EDIT: TLDR version. Be polite, and follow the directions to the letter. and ROMs are your personal choice since they're all unique and they come in full explanations as to their purpose.
Dracius said:
Thank you for actually reading my post, I greatly appreciate it.
To everyone else, I DID click the link, and read it several times before even posting. If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed I referenced it several times. I took the time to read before posting, you could at least have the civil decency to do the same.
@ Theoneeye, thank you for the assurance, I tracked down someone who was able to answer some ROM questions for me and help me find a good starting ROM and assist me with the process to make sure I don't brick my phone on my first go at it.
Normally I just try things like this, and if it fails, try again until it works. However, since I read up on this first (even though everyone here seems to think I didn't) I know I run the risk of bricking my phone. Since I've gone through several exchanges already to get this phone for free (long story) I don't wanna be swapping another phone so soon.
To those who still bother to read posts, any input you can provide on your ROM choices, or the other half of my post regarding some things I should look into installing, I would appreciate it.
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
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I see your arrogance is getting you far
Just getting into this meself and so far it looks like...
- sort out the hardSPL update first to let you do the ROM and other upgrades...
- once it says 1.90.OliNex on the bootloader fetch the new ROM
- reading around and going by most references the Energy 6.5 ROM seems to be worth a shot, think that's what I'll be installing on my TP
- while you're at it search for aerial upgrades and put a newer version on at the same time to sort out GPS and phone performance.
Just make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, don't run anything else on the PC while updates are being done and check, check and triple check the ROMS to make sure they're correct before doing anything
gshaw said:
Just getting into this meself and so far it looks like...
- sort out the hardSPL update first to let you do the ROM and other upgrades...
- once it says 1.90.OliNex on the bootloader fetch the new ROM
- reading around and going by most references the Energy 6.5 ROM seems to be worth a shot, think that's what I'll be installing on my TP
- while you're at it search for aerial upgrades and put a newer version on at the same time to sort out GPS and phone performance.
Just make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, don't run anything else on the PC while updates are being done and check, check and triple check the ROMS to make sure they're correct before doing anything
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Thank you!
It's helpful knowing there's some decent people on these forums who are willing to help out. I was able to get the few basic questions I had regarding installation and some pointers to help me find a ROM that fits my needs. Since then I've done a few flashes and all have gone off without a hitch.
To those of you who continue to think I'm being rude, you seem to fail to realize the ignorance and blatant 'ass hattery' in repeatedly referring someone to read something they already read without providing any additional information. It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all.
Speaking of "It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all."
If you want help here this is NOT the way to get it.
This is a community of great minds and mutual respect, not somewhere for someone to start making demands and throwing out general negativity.
No one here thinks you continue to be rude, THEY CAN READ IT FOR THEMSELVES.
Everyone here is willing to help, but you need to help yourself first. You're off to a really great start....
Dracius said:
Thank you!
It's helpful knowing there's some decent people on these forums who are willing to help out.
To those of you who continue to think I'm being rude, you seem to fail to realize the ignorance and blatant 'ass hattery' in repeatedly referring someone to read something they already read without providing any additional information. It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all.
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Dracius said:
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
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Sorry Dracius, i'm with the majority of people here who think you're rude and havent understood the idea of this site - its a community developement site, not a one-stop download & personal tech support center.
The instructions in the flashing guide are exactly what you need to start you off in the world of flashing roms. It has a "before you start" backup part - with a link to free backup software.
It then goes on to explain exactly and in detail how to flash (GSM) hard spl - including a link and instructions to ensure you have a GSM phone. It also tells you to ensure you dont have any other programs running / screen saver etc which might throw a spanner in the works.
Following that, it says - if you want to - how to sim & security unlock the phone, including the required link.
Next it details how to flash a rom, including a very helpful line
1. Download your prefered Rom from the Raphael Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your computer
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Your prefered rom - remember this is a guide on how to flash - not what to flash. To decide that, read the details in the rom forum, read other users feedback - and then when it doesnt help, do what everyone else does and try half a dozen to see what it is you want your phone to be like.
Finally, the guide tells you how to flash a different radio - and again says this is optional. It then links to a radio thread which explains what the radio does and why you might want to flash it.
If you have a problem with any part of the process (or pretty much anything related to your phone) then (after searching & reading) make a post explaining what your problem is - and what you have done to help yourself (say exactly which threads you have read, and why they dont help you / what you dont understand) - people will generally help.
This isnt what you did.
Oh, welcome to the community.
Well at least he got a welcome
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Well at least he got a welcome
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No, not really. His attitude is NOT welcome here.
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No, not really. His attitude is NOT welcome here.
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I know mate I was only kidding
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I know mate I was only kidding
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I know Bro, that's why I welcomed you on your other thread....
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I know Bro, that's why I welcomed you on your other thread....
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I saw that thanks
I am not new here but I am new to the Raphael section
(I had a Blackberry Storm for a year sorry )

[REQ] 2.10.605.1 Untouched but Rooted

I'd like to request a completely untouched version of this ROM with the exception of root. (No debloating, no deodexing, no zipaligning, etc...)
I'm surprised this didn't come out first and I think many would appreciate it as well.
[ROM]RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.0802w_3_NV_8K_1.41
[ROM] ZIP format: RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.10.605.1_Rad io_0.01.78.08...
2.10.605.1 Debloat|Deodex|Rooted|Busybox|Zipalign
[ROM] [FLASHABLE] 2.10.605.1 Debloat/BLoat Options
you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...
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you don't need anyone to make one...
Instead, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226156
and read/use the information and links it contains...
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I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.
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I was aware of that but it would be nice if someone can uploaded a completed version of this to save quite a bit of time.
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Its a couple extra steps, and doesn't really take much longer than flashing a rooted rom file. Plus flashing the patched HBoot is safer, and for how "easy" this is.. I wouldn't expect any dev to take the time and make just a "rooted" version of the rom to flash.
Odd. I don't see anything in the forum rules that say people should ask for help. I don't blame the guy for asking. Why not? What's next--create your own ROM, why should others do it? Figure out your own root method instead of asking someone if they have?
For all the people who give the guy grief about asking, maybe someone else will say, "yeah, that's a good idea" and help the guy (and others) out.
Joel
I think it's more that this person is asking in multiple places for a few hours. Coulda had it done by now. Just rubs some people the wrong way.
Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...
You do realize pulling the rom.zip from an RUU takes about 2 minutes to accomplish, including the time it takes to google the "how-to". But you would rather bother a dev to do it for you, adding the trouble of having to wait the 20+ minutes to upload the 350MB file to waste precious personal server space for a single person's downloading convenience. A 2 minute job turned 30 minutes of someone else's time cus you didn't feel like it. The difference between a good noob and a bad noob: good noob asks how to get roms from RUUs, bad noob tells someone else to do it for them without hesitation.
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Wow guys, well I think I can officially say XDA is no longer the same site I thought it was....
FYI, I had already done the posted method no problem. The only reason I made this thread was in an effort to request if a developer (of which I am not) could create a simple ROM that would help other newbies out and make it an easy one-flash task so they don't have to worry. But no, I guess it's a sin to be a newbie now huh? How dare anyone request something so simple from a developer (especially when a well known dev already spent more work creating another version of the same ROM). So this should be even harder for them to do right? And honestly, why anyone sees this thread as a forceful obligation for someone to fulfill the request is beyond me.
Very productive and helpful posts everyone. Great job at showing how supportive XDA has become...
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Oh please, you are defending yourself ex post facto because you were attacked for being shown that if it matters that much to help the new commers you could make what you wanted pretty quickly by following a how-to. If you really want to help them, you could have probably finished the how-to and posted it in the time you took to complain.
It's great to do things for anyone new and I am all for it (which is why in the few months I have been an official member, I have 60+ "thanks," most of which came from answering questions or giving out useful information.
No one is attacking you for wanting to help noobs, but people will call you out when you claim to want to help and are shown, but ignore it anyways. It comes back to the quote:
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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If all someone said was to google it or do this yourself without telling you how it could be done with links or something then that would be messed up, but they did not. They gave you links in both this thread and the other (the other thread giving you EXACTLY what you requested in a link).
IMHO if you really want to help those you say you want to help, you could create a post in the developer's forum linking to the post that someone gave you in the other topic from rootzwiki. That way they can be pointed in the right direction.

[q] help from me on xda or in pm/gtalk ?

I help A LOT of people here on xda all day everyday some donate some don't. its very hard to help people on xda cus when helping them other people jump in and start either telling the person im helping don't do that do this or they just plain old spam. i have helped a very large amount of people on g talk and they have told me they like to be helped MORE on g talk than on xda because we have 100% full privacy to do what we need to do. please choose how you like to be helped Either xda or PM or g talk. at the end of the week ill count all of them up and from the results i will help people based on the results on this thanks very much.
To put the poll into better context I believe that you should also read this thread Although I've quoted the relevant posts below:
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Hello, Paul,
Firstly, thanks (again) for your input into the forum. I'm genuinely not intending to create conflict here or trying to play the role of a mod. Now, I know that you've had this sort of comment before, but, I agreed with it then and I'm afraid that I still do.
While at times the PM route can be useful to resolve issues, it shouldn't be the only or primary option. The whole principle of XDA is openness and sharing, so resolving an issue in thread permits that the next user(s) (and there is always another, who suffers from the exact same problem) from hopefully using the Search function and then following the resolution from the thread by themselves.
That way we're working towards creating a valuable resource rather than loosing useful input into hidden PMs.
PM's do have there place for 'user to user' communication, that would otherwise populate the forum unnecessarily but once a thread has been created I believe that it should be used to reolve the original issue.
If a new user needs that much hand holding then one wonders whether they should be risking their £200-£400 device in the first place! before reading up some more....
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me helping people over PM is better because its faster and more safer for the person im helping. if im trying to guide him then other people jump in and comment he isnt going to know who to listen to and he will get very confused. this has happend before. by helping over PM or my gmail is better for them, and me. and i ALWAYS ask them after to write a guide as to how i helped them and what they did. i at NO point mean to upset anyone. but you have got to understand that this is the only way that i can help these people as you may well know here on xda people have got there opinions and they like to jump in whenever they want. if i tell him to do somthing some1 might jump in and say no or do this and do that. i have had EVERYONE i have helped say thanks to me and its better this way. i have helped MANY people achieve proper s-off. i will no open a poll. and it will ask the people of xda if they would prefer to be helped via PM or Gtalk or on here. if more people prefer xda then i will start helping via xda
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As someone whom Paul has helped through gtalk, It was very beneficial to me as we were able to quickly and easily communicate, as any other method is rather slow and crude. I definitely do agree with your point on xda being a repository for information however, therefore communicating through gtalk or similar could withhold information from other users. However I have now written up a short guide of what I did to solve my problem on the original thread, and I believe that if people do this then everyone wins tbh, and it has the added advantage of the treads being shorter and more concise, therefore it is easier to find the relevant information.
As someone who has done all his stiff by reading through threads and others opinions, I will always advocate all discussions on XDA
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
On the 16th the poll will close and whatever the winning method is thats the way i will help people from now on. i do wish ALL people will take something out of the way i help them. as me getting them properly s-off uses alot of things like commands running adb , fastboot and so on. by helping them do these things it then in turn helps them. as if i didnt help them and they needed to to adb or fastboot commands and they never knew howto that could result in a not needed thread being opened **How to use adb or fastboot** this is a good way for me to help these people. i think people should help people the way they do and let other people carry on with the ways they do things. ( no offence meant ben your opinion means alot to me your a good person ) but if it states in the rules ( only help people on xda ) then i will stop if it dont then i will carry on as im not doing anything wrong. and even so if you guys think your losing out on infomation. i will open up a guide covering absolutly EVERYTHING on the desire s from fastboot adb changing roms,splash,radio,hboot and covering everything on what the desire s is capable of doing. what limits it has and other things. this in a sense will be the desire s XDA user guide let me know if u think thats a good isea ben. and as i go along anything i help people out with thats not in the new guide ill just update it ????????????
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( no offence meant ben
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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I do but there are already several threads like this, so one must be careful not to pollute the forum with too many similar guides which would just lead to further confusion.
There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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The one thing I would say though, is rather than re-invent not just the wheel but the car, I'd recommend that you source, link and reference as much of the existing documentation where ever possible.
paul.robo said:
yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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Guides done i have posted it now and ill carry it on as i go along
hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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No problem mate I'm here to help all who need me

NEWBIES!!,ROOT PROBLEMS,Stuck in Boot Loops,PD98IMG,My Inspire Won't Work,HELP

So this is an attempt to clear up some thread repeats:​​ ​
And mods if you do not like this by all means close this or if it does not fit the propose. We have all seen the same thread over and over again which is never going to stop lol.. and seeing the same ?s or Everyone's problem that they which is always "different" then anyone elses etc.. SOOOOOOO... heres the best way for those type of solutions.. For the newbies or w.e it is these days. Because it seems to be something that's over looked in the hack kit.
Right form attn1 thread it self : If you have read this post and the effen-manual and get stuck during processing,
help is available in IRC at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#aahkSupport
Best place to go for all those issues... if you have tried to go through the IRC which shouldn't have no issues with the maybe ask lol
So just a thought if anyone had issues of flashing or anything they could think of that they want to share or post the thinks where they found the info or give the solutions to there fixed issues that would be awesome. I would like to see this maybe pick up as a guide/solution/fix thread. If not eh not no worries..I dont mind to help the new people
But if you ever get a boot loop form a rom you flash make sure you fully wipe (sorry just funny every time.you will see what I mean) from rom to rom unless other wise...If you still happen to have the PD98IMG file still on your sd card happens when you 1st root and for get that its there delete I use Es File Explorer to find whats on the sd card there are others astro file manager. Also This happen to me once when I flash scripts,gps fix, kernels then the rom that I was going to use and it just totally F'd my phone or re boots random or just gets stuck on the htc screen..
But I had made this post for another user (new) maybe this may help:
So this is an idea of what I do when I flash a rom and some other ideas/tips.
Getting Started or Flashing A Rom:
Once you root your phone (this is not in any order really) you should get ROM Manager aka Clock Work Mod. Once you get that, open the CWM and the first top half you will see flash clockworkmod recovery make sure your on wifi I would at least for the updates. You will see a dialog box click desire hd. This will allow you to make back ups of your settings that you made when you flash a rom its always a good idea to make your backups its a life save!! So, once you made your back up and this is what I do.. I plug in my phone to the pc switch to disk mode which will let you see whats on your sd card. Since you flash the CWM and recovery you will see on your sd card a folder called clockworkmod open then backups folder you will see you back that you made, drag and drop that backup file that you made to your fold that you made on pc to save it for later. And thats pretty much how I save my backups of roms etc.. Now if you need to load that back up just plug phone in disk mode cwm fold>backup drag and drop back up that you need. And boot into recovery mode and select back up and restore and select restore and the file boot and your good..
I would download which Rom I would like to use. Save it to pc to a folder that I have made that I store all my roms, backups,radios & rils, kernels..etc.. just to keep myself organized. Once you get your rom just drag and drop it to the ROOT of the sd card do NOT add it in any folder thats on the sd card. Once you have it on the card just boot into recovery flash your rom.. Other then that its easy to flash the rom.. And when you get all your settings set up make a back up and when done save it to the pc and delete it from the sd card if you dont want to keep on the card I do that..
When it comes to battery life it depends on what the rom.. But I like to use killers http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ht=killersolth scripts for the kernels.. For me I always flash a different kernel upon flashing a new rom. For me having the kernel and killers script is the best combo for me to have for performance and battery life.. now since I have inspire I use the uv lites scripts.
For the most part flashing radios & Rils you would never really need to do that so I wouldnt recommend it for now maybe later but read about it its good to know what it does..
Other sides which I for got to add.. When you flash a new rom its always good to wipe user data.,cache, delvik it makes it for a good clean install with other roms..
Also the desire HD thread which the inspire can use the roms from that thread to.
Well I hope this helps you in any way.. if you need help PM me best of luck
SORRY FOR SUCH A LONG POST HAHA
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So this is an attempt to clear up some thread repeats:​​ ​
And mods if you do not like this by all means close this or if it does not fit the propose. We have all seen the same thread over and over again which is never going to stop lol.. and seeing the same ?s or Everyone's problem that they which is always "different" then anyone elses etc.. SOOOOOOO... heres the best way for those type of solutions.. For the newbies or w.e it is these days. Because it seems to be something that's over looked in the hack kit.
Right form attn1 thread it self : If you have read this post and the effen-manual and get stuck during processing,
help is available in IRC at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#aahkSupport
Best place to go for all those issues... if you have tried to go through the IRC which shouldn't have no issues with the maybe ask lol
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admirable, but we have every bit of information needed to root, update modems, tweak roms, find roms in the first few stickies of the respective devices forums. So if people are unwilling to look at a sticky listed as [How-to] or [Guide]....lol i feel ya tho between irc and palringo rooms, plenty of help available without simple questions loading down the xda servers.
Very true friend
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Morse code is just going to confuse the noobs even more.
I have another idea. How about a noob sub-forum, that you can only post there until you have like 25 posts. Then there will be more noobs helping noobs and maybe they'll figure it out. Those that want to help can, and those that aren't in the mood can avoid it.
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Morse code is just going to confuse the noobs even more.
I have another idea. How about a noob sub-forum, that you can only post there until you have like 25 posts. Then there will be more noobs helping noobs and maybe they'll figure it out. Those that want to help can, and those that aren't in the mood can avoid it.
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hahaha noobs that help noobs...nice title for a TV show!.....
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hahaha noobs that help noobs...nice title for a TV show!.....
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why did i start singing "Three blind mice...."
Well it was attempt to reduce the same ass threads posting lol but o well I tried
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Well it was attempt to reduce the same ass threads posting lol but o well I tried
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Nice attempt...but things like this will never work. You should know this by now lol. We have stickys and a search button yet people still post the same threads. Nothing we can do will help that.
"I love my Springfield XD40"
exactly, we have a thread "all radios and rils and what they work with" we also have "rooting kit guide and faq" and they pass over both of those and make threads like "how do i root my inspire?". My faves tho are the ones that buy an inspire cuz its cheaper and they live in the uk and wonder why they only get edge connection lol.
the problem is 'noobies' dont feel they are in that category so they skip over threads like this. It is an offensive term to most, itd be like if we made a <racial slur general chat> forum expecting people to actually go there LOL.
Your right dude.. lol o well
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Noobs Anonymous?
Hi I'm Bob and I'm a noob.
Sent using the power of the dark side
Guys, how do you feel about trying an experiment?
First off, I am familiar with all of you and currently you all know much more than myself. With that said, here goes.
I came across a thread a while back with the title more a less, "noob friendly, ask any question" which had quite a few posts. Perhaps something like that would help minimize the creation of new threads. Maybe.
Second, one of you mentioned that just by using the word noob some feel offended by it, I know I did after a while of being in xda even though I was and I still am
Perhaps if it's still possible to change the title of this thread to... I don't know... "Beginners tutorial, basic troubleshooting and....." you get the idea it may encourage people to look at it. Edit the op to have something besides saying to head over to the irc channel.
When I first started here, I was overwhelmed by all the new terms. And it did, and still is a bit confusing even if there is a step by step on how to do something.
Granted, all the info is already there. I'm just curious about this idea.
On a side note, I wanted to start a "tips and secrets" kinda thread where each person could post recommendations for almost anything they have learned.
What say you?
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Noob noob noob...lmao no the name should stay or thread deleted. Hell the word noob is on the entrance video for xda. A new thread of ask questions will not work. Just stop thinking someone can change something that can never be changed. We have been here long enough to know this by now.
Keep enjoying the site and have fun.
Edit...we don't need to make things any easier for anyone than it already is. Use the search button...period. not to difficult.
"I love my Springfield XD40"
Cw and darunion what they say is true it one of those things that the veterans would like to see the same type of post posted again and again I myself see the same and I don't mind realy helping out but at the same time its to clutter with all the same stuff..
And as for the member for a helping thread I know what you mean kind of one stop place which would be cool to see.
But with all the "my issue is different" when I flash from the hack kit is to go to the IRC channel that's why its posted.
Side E3 2012 yessss..
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Oh well, I gave it a shot... maybe you guys can make a noob rom called "stay on stock".
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Oh well, I gave it a shot... maybe you guys can make a noob rom called "stay on stock".
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Well, I mean I could or you as well can make a post about issues and how to fix them but like starting out with the Boot Loop issues..
I know when someone does something to the phone and cant get it fix they panic and make a post thinking it would be faster in some cases it is..
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Well, I mean I could or you as well can make a post about issues and how to fix them but like starting out with the Boot Loop issues..
I know when someone does something to the phone and cant get it fix they panic and make a post thinking it would be faster in some cases it is..
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I know the feeling buddy and those I understand. I'm all about helping.
It just gets a bit frustrating, i.e. the rom/thread is four pages and a question is posted - and the answer is there. Or when there was a rush to ask if the cam was working. I felt bad for the devs.
Xda has become it's own organizational structure with it's own procedures and everything that entails an organization. I was just trying to think/help finding a better way of doing things.... I don't know... in the end, I'm one of those who believe there is a solution for everything. You just need to find the right way to do it (that is, if it's possible to make something good even better, even for a place like xda)
On a side note: my last post was meant to be funny it sounded better in my head and perhaps I should have kept it there
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Teichopsia said:
I know the feeling buddy and those I understand. I'm all about helping.
It just gets a bit frustrating, i.e. the rom/thread is four pages and a question is posted - and the answer is there. Or when there was a rush to ask if the cam was working. I felt bad for the devs.
Xda has become it's own organizational structure with it's own procedures and everything that entails an organization. I was just trying to think/help finding a better way of doing things.... I don't know... in the end, I'm one of those who believe there is a solution for everything. You just need to find the right way to do it (that is, if it's possible to make something good even better, even for a place like xda)
On a side note: my last post was meant to be funny it sounded better in my head and perhaps I should have kept it there
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Lol its cool man good point of view though.
Ill say this I remember when I did my backups for the life of me I couldn't find my backups that I did and was like why in the hell my 16 sd card has only like 2 gigs left lol
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Bricked Device HELP Pleeasssee.... OP7P

Hello Everybody, I'm new to this specific site so I apologize in advance if I posted this in the wrong forum section. I have a OP7P that I was running BlissRom. Today I decided to check out the EX kernel app. After installing. There was a pop-up that said "There is an Kernel update would you like to update mow, so I accepted and it asked me to reboot, like always after a system flash. And it's boots into Fastboot. I tried everything from Selecting Start to selecting recovery. To holding Vol and power buttons and Fastboot is where it goes no matter what. So I said at least it's in Fastboot. I'll just reflash the TWRP img file. Then. I noticed I was in trouble when my PC didn't detect the device at all. I plugged another device into the cable to make sure the cable was good and it was. So I ran Fastboot devices command and No devices detected rebooted it back into Fastboot. Tried it again and same thing. Someone please tell me I'm not totally screwed. I've bricked phones on a few occasions and always have gotten them back. This is my personal device. Fingers crossed my kids didn't just get a new frisby. Thanks everyone in advance!
kbs3251 said:
Hello Everybody, I'm new to this specific site so I apologize in advance if I posted this in the wrong forum section. I have a OP7P that I was running BlissRom. Today I decided to check out the EX kernel app. After installing. There was a pop-up that said "There is an Kernel update would you like to update mow, so I accepted and it asked me to reboot, like always after a system flash. And it's boots into Fastboot. I tried everything from Selecting Start to selecting recovery. To holding Vol and power buttons and Fastboot is where it goes no matter what. So I said at least it's in Fastboot. I'll just reflash the TWRP img file. Then. I noticed I was in trouble when my PC didn't detect the device at all. I plugged another device into the cable to make sure the cable was good and it was. So I ran Fastboot devices command and No devices detected rebooted it back into Fastboot. Tried it again and same thing. Someone please tell me I'm not totally screwed. I've bricked phones on a few occasions and always have gotten them back. This is my personal device. Fingers crossed my kids didn't just get a new frisby. Thanks everyone in advance!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/msm-tool-guac-t3934691
As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
mookiexl said:
As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
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Kind of ignorant to be calling people idiots when they follow the same process theybalways have to update their ROM and things go south. Not every method works for the same device.
If you're not going to help, don't comment.
OP, check out my thread. I had something similar happen to me last week.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/issues-rooting-oneplus-7-pro-installing-t4094885
knightsriot said:
Kind of ignorant to be calling people idiots when they follow the same process theybalways have to update their ROM and things go south. Not every method works for the same device.
If you're not going to help, don't comment.
OP, check out my thread. I had something similar happen to me last week.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/issues-rooting-oneplus-7-pro-installing-t4094885
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Never called anybody idiot brother and if you are older than twelve you should be familiar with the terminology and context of which I used idiot proof. Rather than giving answers that can be easily found why not promote the use of the search function? If we continue to just give answers these forums will continue to be full of meaningless space keeping threads like this one that only point you to another thread while the useful information gets pushed out.
There's a reason we didn't make all A's from teachers giving us all the answers or you don't just tell you're kids to listen to you count to 100 or sing the ABCs and it's because we wouldn't learn jack ish. Your reply was less helpful than mine. I stated that the threads were available hoping the OP attempts to use the search feature to find them. You just made the most useful tool (SEARCH) obsolete.
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Never called anybody idiot brother and if you are older than twelve you should be familiar with the terminology and context of which I used idiot proof. Rather than giving answers that can be easily found why not promote the use of the search function? If we continue to just give answers these forums will continue to be full of meaningless space keeping threads like this one that only point you to another thread while the useful information gets pushed out.
There's a reason we didn't make all A's from teachers giving us all the answers or you don't just tell you're kids to listen to you count to 100 or sing the ABCs and it's because we wouldn't learn jack ish. Your reply was less helpful than mine. I stated that the threads were available hoping the OP attempts to use the search feature to find them. You just made the most useful tool (SEARCH) obsolete.
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Could've just used fail-proof or other terminology, Hulk Hogan. No need to be passive aggressive to people are getting the hang this device.
This is the first time I've triggered a neckbeard. Nice.
knightsriot said:
Could've just used fail-proof or other terminology, Hulk Hogan. No need to be passive aggressive to people are getting the hang this device.
This is the first time I've triggered a neckbeard. Nice.
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Lol I'm just frustrated to not be able to help . I check the questions and answers regularly to see if I can assist someone but the questions and answers forum is only filled with "Bricked" threads of which non are unique to anything posted in the Mega Unbrick and MSM Tool thread. I've had about every Bricked situation possible for this device and never once had to create a thread or even ask a question in a thread because I know the power of search. This device will always Unbrick as long the mother board isn't fried.
That Hulk Hogan was nice ?
mookiexl said:
Lol I'm just frustrated to not be able to help . I check the questions and answers regularly to see if I can assist someone but the questions and answers forum is only filled with "Bricked" threads of which non are unique to anything posted in the Mega Unbrick and MSM Tool thread. I've had about every Bricked situation possible for this device and never once had to create a thread or even ask a question in a thread because I know the power of search. This device will always Unbrick as long the mother board isn't fried.
That Hulk Hogan was nice
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True. Nah, I'm just coming from OP's point of view. I've rooted my tablet and other phones and have never come close to bricking a device besides this one. I got all the way down to the Qualcomm crash dump message. I was so frustrated. All I did was literally download an update ROM build and applied it the exact same way I had the previous build, but something messed up along the way. I tried different methods til I finally found that All-in-One tool. I tried all the others and they didn't work for me.
Anyway, my bad for being rude. I know I'm not dealing with the typical YouTube type of people here
SMH.
mookiexl said:
As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
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I literally said that I'm new to XDA and I'm not apart of any other forums or websites, and for one I looked up unbricking this device. None of them had an issue with their computer detecting their device in Fastboot mode. Therefore I reached out for help. The real problem is that people are so bored and have nothing to do that they just complain about other people's threads. What's the point in having a forum on this subject if you can't use it without dealing with this **** I could have done without a smartass response. If you missed the part where I stated that the USB-C port was not functional in Fastboot mode. Then please read my entire thread before adding input. I see your a senior member. I respect that and you probably have tons of knowledge that could be useful. So you should want to encourage instead of downgrade people for their questions. This hobby is slowly dying. Help the younger crowd. Theyre gonna be afraid to ask questions if they feel the experienced guys are gonna make them feel stupid. No disrespect I just didn't see the point in your response and with my bricked device having something uncommon from the other threads. I still feel that my question was a valid ask for help
Thanks!
Thanks Knightsriot
mookiexl said:
As many thorough threads for unbricking this device that people invested a lot of time to make 100% idiot proof we somehow keep getting these same cry for help post SMDH
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knightsriot said:
Could've just used fail-proof or other terminology, Hulk Hogan. No need to be passive aggressive to people are getting the hang this device.
This is the first time I've triggered a neckbeard. Nice.
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knightsriot said:
True. Nah, I'm just coming from OP's point of view. I've rooted my tablet and other phones and have never come close to bricking a device besides this one. I got all the way down to the Qualcomm crash dump message. I was so frustrated. All I did was literally download an update ROM build and applied it the exact same way I had the previous build, but something messed up along the way. I tried different methods til I finally found that All-in-One tool. I tried all the others and they didn't work for me.
Anyway, my bad for being rude. I know I'm not dealing with the typical YouTube type of people here
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I'm glad there's still people out there who are willing to help. Update on the problem. I got frustrated with it and went to bed. It died overnight and when I plugged it in the next morning by the grace of God it decided to boot into TWRP 3.3.1-79. Where I had done a backup a few days prior! ?. I do have another quick question. I'm back on stock OOS 10.3.2 running renovate Ice. How come none of the changes I make in the rice tweaks app will actually change. None of them. Sorry in advance if this is a "stupid" question
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I'm glad there's still people out there who are willing to help. Update on the problem. I got frustrated with it and went to bed. It died overnight and when I plugged it in the next morning by the grace of God it decided to boot into TWRP 3.3.1-79. Where I had done a backup a few days prior! . I do have another quick question. I'm back on stock OOS 10.3.2 running renovate Ice. How come none of the changes I make in the rice tweaks app will actually change. None of them. Sorry in advance if this is a "stupid" question
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Search the RICE thread for the ''overlay mount fix''. Its a magisk module.
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kbs3251 said:
I literally said that I'm new to XDA and I'm not apart of any other forums or websites, and for one I looked up unbricking this device. None of them had an issue with their computer detecting their device in Fastboot mode. Therefore I reached out for help. The real problem is that people are so bored and have nothing to do that they just complain about other people's threads. What's the point in having a forum on this subject if you can't use it without dealing with this **** I could have done without a smartass response. If you missed the part where I stated that the USB-C port was not functional in Fastboot mode. Then please read my entire thread before adding input. I see your a senior member. I respect that and you probably have tons of knowledge that could be useful. So you should want to encourage instead of downgrade people for their questions. This hobby is slowly dying. Help the younger crowd. Theyre gonna be afraid to ask questions if they feel the experienced guys are gonna make them feel stupid. No disrespect I just didn't see the point in your response and with my bricked device having something uncommon from the other threads. I still feel that my question was a valid ask for help
Thanks!
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Dude all I'm saying is search is the key. Note that I still helped just not the way you wanted. I don't have over 300 thanks for nothing.

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