I know there are plenty of threads along this line, but as the S4 becomes available they will no doubt be splitting the forums up by Carrier, country, version or whatever. So this is specifically for the AT&T US version, SGH-I337. If that's what AT&T sticks with, it's a great model number, isn't it?
Unless things have changed, it looks good for 4/16 for pre-orders from AT&T, with actual phones coming out 4/26? :fingers-crossed:
Has anyone heard anything from Best Buy as to when they will start pre-orders? And will the 32gb version be available at first or will it come a few weeks later?
And lastly, who's going to have the first one! For bragging rights you must post a picture with receipt or some kind of proof.
theres no word from bestbuy yet on a preorder. at&t website has the s4 preorder page up but it only shows the 16gb model. i hope they offer the 32gb model tomorrow as well.
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theres no word from bestbuy yet on a preorder. at&t website has the s4 preorder page up but it only shows the 16gb model. i hope they offer the 32gb model tomorrow as well.
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You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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i left tmobile for at&t a month ago. i just brought my unlocked note 2 over. much better coverage and the LTE is awesome.
welcome to at&t
Just came across this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mobile-...050012.c?id=pcmcat298000050012&DCMP=rdr105310
Still no mention of when...
RTBee said:
You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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Just came across this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mobile-...050012.c?id=pcmcat298000050012&DCMP=rdr105310
Still no mention of when...
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wont be tomorrow as i called them. just go to a at&t store.
Just figured I'd throw this in there! Here in California when you buy from at&t directly you have to pay the tax on the full amount of phone even if you are signing a new contract. But during Christmas time I bought my son the galaxy s3 from Walmart that was advertised at $139 with $100 gift card and I paid only $139 no more no less. No tax was added at all including free shipping. So im not sure if this is just the way it is or if it ws an anomaly. Oh it was purchased from Walmart online so maybe that's why. So in closing I think im going to wait to purchase from Walmart!
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Usually when buying online, you don't have to pay sales tax (it's a state thing). You're 'supposed to' enter that on your taxes at the end of the year under out-of-state purchases, paying the tax at that time. So, if you do it that way at least you can spread out your cost a bit.
S4 vs S3
Interesting comparison: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
Note the differences between level 1/level 2 cache and the use of DDR3 in the S4 to DDR2 in the S3.
It also shows the S4 as having FM radio, which I do not believe will be present in the I337, nor will the selectable operations (such as being able to turn off LTE and just use 3g). Also it shows the S4 and S3 as having gorilla glass 2, whereas I've read the S4 is getting gorilla glass 3.
Samsung SGH-i337 Galaxy S 4 LTE
i found this about the Samsung SGH-i337 Galaxy S 4 LTE
Expected:Release_Date: April, 2013
Project;Codename: Samsung Altius
Browse all devices under Samsung Altius codename
Dimensions: 69.8 x 136.6 x 7.9 millimetres
Mass: 130 grams (battery included)
Software;Environment
Embeddedperating-System: Google Android 4.2.2
Browse devices running this OS
Microprocessor,:Chipset
CPU:Clock: 1900 MHz
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 APQ8064T
Browse devices based on this microprocessor
Memory,_Storage-capacity
RAM-capacity: 2 GiB
Display
Display_Type: color Super AM-OLED , 16777216 scales
Display-Diagonal: 5 "
Display_Resolution: 1080 x 1920
Video;out: 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution
Sound
Microphone(s): stereo
Loudspeaker(s): Supported
Audio;Output: 3.5mm
Cellular+Phone
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Cellular_Data-Links: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
Call:Alert: 64 -chord melody
Vibrating+Alert: Supported
Speakerphone;: Supported
Secondary;Cellular+Phone
Dual;Cellular-Network-Operation: Selectable cellular module
Secondary:Cellular:Networks: LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
Secondary:Cellularata_Links: LTE
Control-Peripherals
Positioning-Device: Multi-touch screen
Primary+Keyboard: Not supported
Directional+Pad: Not supported
Scroll-Wheel: Not supported
Interfaces
Expansion:Slots: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, microSDXC
USB: USB 2.0 host/client, 480Mbit/s, OTG 1.3
micro-USB
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
Wireless_LAN: 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, 802.11ac
Infrared:Gate: Supported
Multimedia-Telecommunication
Analog-Radio-Receiver: FM radio (76-108MHz) with RDS
Digital;Media+Broadcast_Tuner: Not supported
Satellite;Navigation
Built-in:GPS-module: Supported
Complementary_GPS:Services: Assisted GPS, QuickGPS, Geotagging, Simultaneous GPS
Built-in-Digital:Camera
Main;Camera: 13.2 MP
Autofocus;(AF): Supported
Optical;Zoom: 1 x
Macro+Mode: Supported
Built-in+Flash: mobile light (LED)
Secondary;Camera: 2.1 MP
Additional+Details
Built-in+accelerometer: Supported
Battery: removable
Battery-Capacity: 2600 mAh
Thanks for info, I found it interesting that they're calling it Samsung Altius, I'd never heard that name used before.
I do like At&t's model name (I337) though. It will be their 'Elite' model. (in leet)
Just found this: http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-altius-smartwatch-leaked-14269391/ Looks like the name Altius has more to do with an upcoming 'smart watch', not the S4.
Best Buy now taking Pre-orders
Best Buy just text they're accepting pre-orders. Only the 16gb version in black or white with no mention of 32gb. They also list the unactivated full price as being 749.99??? $100 more than At&t?? What's that all about?
This is very much unlike me, but I'm thinking I may hold off a bit and see how soon they'll be offering the 32gb versions. I like the idea of having some extra overhead on internal memory, what with having the higher hd screen and such. Right now it may not make as much of a difference, but the more apps that take advantage of the higher res screens the more memory will be required.
I love my S3, so it's not a hard wait. If it takes to long, tho... :cyclops:
I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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It should be pretty easy I imagine?
I had the I9100M (Canadian version), which I flashed with I9100 ROMs as they were the same hardware and from then on my phone was simply an I9100.
This time around due to LTE, could we flash any I9505 ROM and then just flash our modem for our specific LTE bands? (All major Canadian network and AT&T use the same ones - However I don't know if AT&T will use 2600MHz as well like the Canadian network will).
Our phones would say I9505 in info and on boot up and not be any different aside from modem used. Or do the bands needs to be enabled both in the ROM and the modem?
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I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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I think that would be great as well, unfortunately each carrier screws around with their respective devices and not all development works as smoothly or without glitches on each one. You'd think all GT-i9505's would be the same, but then you'd have thought that all North American SGS III's would have been the same too. Some things port easily, some have issues.
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I think that would be great as well, unfortunately each carrier screws around with their respective devices and not all development works as smoothly or without glitches on each one. You'd think all GT-i9505's would be the same, but then you'd have thought that all North American SGS III's would have been the same too. Some things port easily, some have issues.
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The SGS3 US versions port good between them with the same hardware. The cdma versions, the tmobile version, and the remaining gsm versions kind of like how the i747 and i747m are now. When you get into different radio technologies then it seems harder to port since some hardware (radio and not just modem) should be different.
So the ATT i337 and other i9505 variants should be identical hardware wise and only have modem differences for the most part. Unless I am totally wrong here and the UK i9505 (and other European i9505's) are so different or using completely different hardware radios for different frequencies used. But we should kniw this in the next coupke of weeks for sure. I know in the past (SGS1/SGS2) that the international version and ATT version were almost identical, and close enough tbat I could flash the international version on my phone then make some necessary changes with a flashable zip to fix the modem and button configuration. Then it would work good. Both the ATT SGS1/SGS2 had the same cpu/gpu as the international version and used the SAME frequency bands for huspa and huspa+. Now I do NOT KNOW if they will be the same for the LTE bands or not, so that could be the game changer.
Now the ATT SGS3 of course was different due to different cpu/gpu compared to the International variants. But since this time around again from all I have read so far that the i9505 international variants and at least the ATT SGS4 i337 seem to be the same again hardware wise, at least that is my hope... So if this does turn out to be true this is how I see it working:
We will have subforums of the SGS4 which will include the ATT i337, the Canadian Version i337m? (Not sure if thats the name at this time), and the remaining i9505 international sharing a subforum. The Tmobile even though it is gsm but uses different frequencies for some of their bands will be seperated a bit, how much I do not know, then the cdma variants split of as well into their own subforum/s.
Just my guess here going from experience with the SGS1, SGS2, SGS3 and seeing how the sub forums played out along the way.
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Where do you guys get the model i337 from? The S2 was i777 don't quite follow the logic
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Where do you guys get the model i337 from? The S2 was i777 don't quite follow the logic
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Hello,
I'm a probably future owner of an i897 but I have some questions about the hardware and models variations
I like in Brazil and my 3G carrier use 2100 MHZ (Where I live) and 850 MHz on other states (3g on Roaming). I have an unlimited data plan, but with a max speed of 300 kbps (so far).
I'm looking for the best GSM android phone: Fast processor, huge screen (4" or bigger), big resolution (at least 800 x 480), TV output, Wi-Fi, Internet tethering, GPS. All roads lead to I9000 or i897.
At first I thought choose the i897, because it uses both 850 MHz and 2100 MHz, so I'll have 3g anywhere in Brazil. BUT and you can see my data plan have a speed limit of 300kbps, so I don't know if I'll use the full potential of 3G, at least for now. Eventually I'll upgrade my data plan to a 1 MBPS plan.
I can also get i9000 but it will work only in few states. Probably it work for one year (As I don't intend to travel too much in the next year), but after one year I can change my carrier and some carriers here only use 850 MHZ 3G. So choosing the i9000 I will narrow my future options.
What I trying to ask (or answer) is whether is better to have an i897 with full country 3G BUT with an extremely "locked" firmware of if I should get the i9000 with a better firmware option but with restricted 3G (3G with 70% coverage).
In order to answer that I have other 'sub-questions':
1) Does i897 have the FM radio hardware? Would a future firmware/ROM update enable it?
2) Does i897 GPS works (I recall AT&T Blocking GPS on blackberry phones)
3) I saw some comments (other phones) that some ROMs messed up with 3G band. The 3G frequency is a hardware or software configuration?
4) Some sellers are already selling, here in Brazil, unlocked i897 phones. Is possible to unlock the phone but a ROM update or I'll have to pay for unlock codes?
5) Which other features AT&T decided to lock (Removed from their ROM) on this phone?
6) Is there an I9000 variant with front facing camera?
5) One very important question: Aside from Droid x (which is not GSM) and HTC evo (which also if not a GSM phone) is the Samsung i897/i9000 the best android phone available?
I also thought about getting a Motorola XT720 but it is only US$ 50 cheaper and have a slower processor and no 850 MHZ 3G. Also thought about the HTC Desire (A8183 Australian model that have both 850 and 2100
MHZ 3G) but so far I find the i897 the best option (although I would love having front facing camera that the Desire have).
Any other options?
Thanks
Jose Morais
In answer to your question(s), the phone you want is the best one for you ...
1. No, the i897 is not supporting an FM radio at this time, and I'm not sure if the hardware is present as I refuse to open my phone to look. AT&T's specifications page does not list FM radio as a feature either, but that doesn't mean its not there and disabled.
2. Yes the GPS works, it is spotty for some and Samsung has admitted to there being an issue that will be resolved by an upcomming OTA update.
3. (For WM Phones): It's not so much the ROM as it is the Radio software, which may, or may not, be changed in the ROM. Different versions of the radio software can improve performance for some and worsen it for others. I'm am not sure how the radio software is handled by an Android device, as this is the first one I've owned, but I imagine is is very similar. Just be aware of what you are doing, and how to undo it if something is amiss.
4. There is a thread on this board about unlocking the i897, and as of my last reading yesterday, there is no known way to unlock this phone...yet. There was even a report of someone selling "unlocked" i897 phones on e-bay, which were
later found to be firmly SIM locked. I would advise you read that thread, and be very aware of what you are buying if someone is advertising an unlocked i897.
5. AT&T has blocked (or tried to anyway) non-market apps from installing, and WiFi tethering apps from displaying in the android marketplace. There are work arounds for all of this already.
6. Yes, the are Galaxy S phones with FFC. Not sure if any of them are GSM. Keep in mind that transmitting live video is bandwidth intensive and your plan, and upload speed, may not be robust enough to handle it. On that note, I can find no data that either supports or denies this phone having HSUPA capability which would go a long way towards being able to use a FFC as intended.
7. Your last question is entirely subjective to perspective and intended use.
Were I you I would get the phone that most suits my needs and my HOME network. You may want to wait a bit and see what pans out with this phone.
In Brazil the i897 should not currently be an option you should consider until AT&T has made a definitive decision about unlocking the phones, or a third party solution is possible. The Samsung Galaxy S platform is going to be releases in 110 countries. Brazil being probably one of the bigger cell phone markets, is going to get a variant of the Galaxy S lineup in the near future, you best option will be to wait on a phone like this to be released and then pick it up.
Battlehymn,
Thanks for the answers. I have an expectation when using my phone and now I'm trying to find which phones can fullfill this expectation. That's why sometimes the phone that I (think) want may not be the best for me. I hope i897 will the "the one".
I also think it's the best to think about a phone that will work with 3G on my home state. I897 will work, but as well as i9000. Maybe the best option, as you sugested, is to wait a little to see how i897 works in terms or ROM and unlock.
@rajendra82
Sure. My carrier will start selling the i897 here in few months, but I don't really want to buy it here: An iphone 3GS 16GB brought in a store cost around 3.000 Brazilian reais (around US$ 1,650) while it can be purchased for US$ 400 in the US. I asked a friend of mine to bring me a US phone but I have up to next week to decide which one he should buy.
Thanks
don't buy the captivate if you don't have att you'll be dissapointed because it won't work!
get something that does, if you must get an android device, the nexus 1 with the ATT bands (I think thats what you're looking for?) is you're best bet. they're still available online at places but you are most definitely running out of time
Telstra in Australia run on 850/2100 3G, and I'm pretty sure some networks in Canada do aswell. Keep an eye on on those carriers for a compatible Galaxy S to be released soon.
Major Clod said:
Telstra in Australia run on 850/2100 3G, and I'm pretty sure some networks in Canada do aswell. Keep an eye on on those carriers for a compatible Galaxy S to be released soon.
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I have a friend of mine that will travel to US next on august 13th, so I decide which phone I'll bet before he leaves. I don't think there will be Telstra ou Canada versions of the i9000 by than. Will have to decide about buying I9000, i897 or HTC Desire in the next two weeks...
Samsung has taken a step forward and announced two upgraded models of Galaxy S II in Korean Market. First one is Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE and Samsung Galaxy S II LTE.
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Breaking down into details Galaxy S II LTE is definitely big brother of Galaxy S II with 1.5GHz dual-core CPU, 4.5-inch WVGA Super AMOLED Plus Display, 8MP camera, full HD video recording, TV-Out support via MHL, 16GB internal memory, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC and 1850mAh battery.
2. Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE
Looking into other one,Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE is no less. It features 4.65-inch Super AMOLED display that supports a resolution of 1280×720 pixels. In addition to LTE, the phone supports HSPA+. Both of these will be available on all three Korean carriers – SK Telecom, KT and LG U+.
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kinda old news it was already in General for a few days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277599
both are using the 1.5 CPU which might or might not the Exynos one
and the LTE & LTU+ only works in Korea
so i don't think we'll see them in this side of the world
Fu Korea. lol
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kinda old news it was already in General for a few days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277599
both are using the 1.5 CPU which might or might not the Exynos one
and the LTE & LTU+ only works in Korea
so i don't think we'll see them in this side of the world
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Bump in CPU Speed is a Plus here..!!
AllGamer said:
kinda old news it was already in General for a few days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277599
both are using the 1.5 CPU which might or might not the Exynos one
and the LTE & LTU+ only works in Korea
so i don't think we'll see them in this side of the world
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We're getting them on rogers in Canada . LTE just went live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal. The Galaxy S2 LTE's are going to come into the stores in the next couple of weeks.
That HD LTE, looks a lot like the Galaxy Note. Mehh I don't like all the plasticy goodness.
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We're getting them on rogers in Canada . LTE just went live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal. The Galaxy S2 LTE's are going to come into the stores in the next couple of weeks.
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i've a hunch the Rogers version is going to be the Hercules, not the real LTE from Korea
I'm wondering how much power does LTE consume. 3g consumes more power than 2g. What about LTE ?
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We're getting them on rogers in Canada . LTE just went live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal. The Galaxy S2 LTE's are going to come into the stores in the next couple of weeks.
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Hi, I am not particularly familiar with Canadian retailers so are there any retailers in particular that would be good to watch (that one could watch for then order and have sent to the US)
Cheers,
-Gaiko
PS For the record, I am not all that interested in the LTE part (on account of the fact that I travel abroad alot) but a faster, ie 1.5 dualcore proc, is definitely of interest.
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Hi, I am not particularly familiar with Canadian retailers so are there any retailers in particular that would be good to watch (that one could watch for then order and have sent to the US)
Cheers,
-Gaiko
PS For the record, I am not all that interested in the LTE part (on account of the fact that I travel abroad alot) but a faster, ie 1.5 dualcore proc, is definitely of interest.
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But why do ppl always need more cpu? Kernel cookers tend to underclock cpu to safe power on same performance level...consumption is already high. And the 0,5inch makes the phone even bigger (it already barely fits into my pocket) my phone is underclocked to 800mhz and undervolted as well. And i see NO differen e while gaming or in the UI....
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Interesting gadget and good technology...
but it will pleonastic technology and money (will be come with expensive price) in my country..
3G/3,5G technology still far away from optimal speed and performance in my country..
But, that is the business..
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But why do ppl always need more cpu? Kernel cookers tend to underclock cpu to safe power on same performance level...consumption is already high. And the 0,5inch makes the phone even bigger (it already barely fits into my pocket) my phone is underclocked to 800mhz and undervolted as well. And i see NO differen e while gaming or in the UI....
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I am not necessarily looking for the bleeding edge in terms of speed but more for "upgradability" for as long as possible. I have a HTC Kaiser for about 4 years now so when i purchase i want to get something that i don't have to bother worrying about replacing (hardware wise) for awhile... and as one upgrades OS vers one typically needs more mem and cpu.
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Great Phones !!!
Will these work on AT&T currently?
as long as it support gsm
is fine
...More specifically, will the3g bands and / or LTE bands work in the US on at&t?
...and does anyone know if these are actually for sale yet in Korea?
Korea strikes again!! they did it with Hyundai, and now with the SGS2. The only thing i like more than my Hyundai is the Korean women. they love the caramel
I had a similar question.....my friend currently resides in Korea and she said she would get the phone for me and ship it to me as they are GSM but my question is......if it is unlocked will it work on T-Mobile 3G or AT&T 3G? Both use different frequencies and any confirmation on that would be good as I'm on T-Mobile and currently have the SG2. If it is compatible with T-Mobile 3G then I will most definitely wire her the money. Call me crazy but I love beast phones like this.
aleks_ said:
I had a similar question.....my friend currently resides in Korea and she said she would get the phone for me and ship it to me as they are GSM but my question is......
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Same thing for me!
I told my korean friend looking for an import version, if it exists.
If it shouldn't have to be like that, which version between skt and lgu+
would be better for european use?
there is no need to import these phones..
they are already being released in North America.
just wait it out for the official launches of LTE networks in canada in the next week. rogers just launched with 2 devices and 1 tablet and bell will be next on nov 4th. the rest will follow suit. and ATT is getting the HD LTE model as well.
save your money and wait.
i already have one btw. click link below in my sig.
also rogers got the LTE model not the hercules. the picture you have in your first post op is incorrect.
that picture only applies to the HD LTE model.
I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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deadlocked007 said:
Buy a nexus 4 and then you don't have to choose
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I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would buy a Nexus 4 if the Play Store wasn't sold out all the time
@OP, I personally have never used LTE, but I can't imagine that it's significantly faster in real-world usage than HSPA+. IMO, you should go for an international SGS3 (assuming they work on T-MO US) and live without that ridiculous carrier branding you Americans are used to .
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I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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You would need one specifically for T-Mobile's LTE network. If you want to buy a T-Mobile LTE-capable phone NOW, you should get the Note 2, which has an LTE chip/antenna inside that is disabled for now. Just like 3G frequencies differ across carriers, so do LTE frequencies. No existing LTE devices on other carriers will work on T-Mobile's LTE. I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I don't think so. That's crazy.
The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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You're wrong on all accounts:
1. The Nexus 4 has slight LTE capabilities on one or two bands, which are used by AT&T, and they're weak because there's no power amp for the antenna. It happens to be left over from the Optimus G because they share the same motherboard, but it was cheaper to leave it on then to make a totally separate assembly line. There is no T-Mobile LTE compatibility in the Nexus 4.
2. The Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. T-Mobile themselves said that they're releasing a new version of the Galaxy S3 with LTE for their network. The Note 2 HOWEVER, has been proven to have an LTE chip hidden inside.
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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I never said it was worse. I just said it's not faster. Also to add on yo what you said, the S4 has better battery efficiency. It really depends on what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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P.s. I find a nexus 4 8gb, brand new on Craigslist, but I have to pay $49 to sign on to solavei wireless (uses T-Mobile) should I just get that, pay the month they make me pay up front, then just switch in a T-Mobile card? Solavei is prepaid, so I'm not worried about black listing.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Like said MOST OF THEM WILL NOT. Google first, ask later. The s3's from other networks will not work with the 4g/hspa network because they do not have the antenna for the aws spectrum we use.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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No. Only the T-Mobile one will work because it's the only one that supports 1700 MHz (AWS). Most international phones don't support 1700 MHz (T-Mobile is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz), but will work on AT&T's bands (850/1900 MHz). However T-Mobile has been very slowly moving over to the same bands as AT&T, so soon you'll be able to use any AT&T compatible phone on T-Mobile.
I'm probably best off buying the nexus 4
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos and plus exynos is good in data rendering and executing. Plus encrypting your work is really fast on exynos even better than intel processors.
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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Yeah, I have the i9300 and that's the only thing that erks me. We have the more powerful phone, we can modify Samsung ROMs, but we pretty much have (actually stable) nightlies for AOSP/AOKP based ROMs. I would have gone with a US carrier S3 if it wasn't for the S4 Dual. I game heavily (GTA 3/VC, Dead Trigger, NFS:MW, MC4, etc), so I rely on the fastest processor out there. The S4 Dual is capable as a CPU, but the Adreno GPU that comes with it is meh. The 2GB of RAM is just futureproofing and doesn't affect performance. If the US S3's had the S4 Pro (Quad), I'd have bought one. The Note 2 seems enticing but I think it's too big for me.
LTE on the Exynos 5 Octa has been confirmed by Samsung Exynos on twitter.
Sammobile: Samsung Exynos reported to SammyHUB about the Exynos 5 Octa processor for the Galaxy S4. According to SamsungExynos the Exynos 5 Octa will support all the bands of LTE (20). So in other words, the Exynos chip from Samsung supports the same things as the Snapdragon 600 by Qualcomm. Because Samsung couldn’t produce Exynos 5 Octa on time Samsung decided to use the Snapdragon 600 in some countries
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LTE on the Exynos 5 Octa has been confirmed by Samsung Exynos on twitter.
Now your choice will be even more harder!
To check whether your country will get Snapdragon 600 or Exynos 5 Octa, refer to this page: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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They better release this with exynos to the u.s. at&t!
The answer is easy if you like xda development: the snapdragon!
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Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean its going to have LTE. Is there any confirmation that the Octa version will indeed be built with the ability to allow LTE bands or is this just more speculation?
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Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean its going to have LTE. Is there any confirmation that the Octa version will indeed be built with the ability to allow LTE bands or is this just more speculation?
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If it supports LTE, see no point in Samsung disabling LTE in the S4 Exynos version and then selling it.
I will try to ask Samsung Exynos about it and let's see if they reply!
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If it supports LTE, see no point in Samsung disabling LTE in the S4 Exynos version and then selling it.
I will try to ask Samsung Exynos about it and let's see if they reply!
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LTE has nothing to do with the Exynos SoC, it's not a part of it. LTE is provided by an external modem chip.
All these articles are written by idiots who can't read the context of the original source, for the sole purpose of getting ad revenue through clicks, at the cost of publishing bull****.
SamsungExynos is the twitter account of Samsung LSI which is the semiconductor division of the Samsung Electronics subsidiary. That tweet was just a PR jab at people telling the Exynos doesn't support LTE.
Of course it does support LTE, as would any other chip on the planet. The interconnect between SoC and modem is something standard and you could probably connect a space station to it if you so wished.
That doesn't mean the S4 Exynos variant / i9500 will have LTE, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the chip itself.
Heck, even they say this in a tweet 8 minutes after the original one: https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/317339669996130306
@NitroWare Regional variations in particular mobile devices are at the discretion of the device manufacturer, not the chip provider.
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The device manufacturer in this case is Samsung Electronics consumer electronics division, different than the semiconductor division.
**** mobile industry journalism these days. It's a bunch of baboons flinging **** together and calling it an article.
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If it supports LTE, see no point in Samsung disabling LTE in the S4 Exynos version and then selling it.
I will try to ask Samsung Exynos about it and let's see if they reply!
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They already replied to someone else who asked. They asked they couldn't confirm it only that the chip supports it. They said to ask Samsung Mobile.
To be honest, while there is no way to know if the SIV has LTE on the i9500 verison, but if the Exynos 5 supports it, Samsung would have been fools not to include it.
Either way, I'm aiming to get the Exynos 5 version, Don't really care about LTE either way yet as still no set release date for it here in Ireland. If Samsung had just gone with the SD600 version alone, then I would have, but since the Exynos 5 will be available in some places at launch or most places shortly after launch, then I will hold off.
Not really sure what Samsung were thinking with this one, they really should have held off on the launch until they could make enough chips. Now they are just going to fragment their own designs with the two different version. Not that it makes a big difference in the long version, but it will for development side of things.
Anyone know where will be selling the Exynos 5 version?
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LTE has nothing to do with the Exynos SoC, it's not a part of it. LTE is provided by an external modem chip.
All these articles are written by idiots who can't read the context of the original source, for the sole purpose of getting ad revenue through clicks, at the cost of publishing bull****.
SamsungExynos is the twitter account of Samsung LSI which is the semiconductor division of the Samsung Electronics subsidiary. That tweet was just a PR jab at people telling the Exynos doesn't support LTE.
Of course it does support LTE, as would any other chip on the planet. The interconnect between SoC and modem is something standard and you could probably connect a space station to it if you so wished.
That doesn't mean the S4 Exynos variant / i9500 will have LTE, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the chip itself.
Heck, even they say this in a tweet 8 minutes after the original one: https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/317339669996130306
The device manufacturer in this case is Samsung Electronics consumer electronics division, different than the semiconductor division.
**** mobile industry journalism these days. It's a bunch of baboons flinging **** together and calling it an article.
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Hmm. Your points are absolutely true.
So we have to wait till people gets their units so that we can comfirm whether Samsung has included the LTE chip or not.
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Hmm. Your points are absolutely true.
So we have to wait till people gets their units so that we can comfirm whether Samsung has included the LTE chip or not.
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We don't have to wait for anything, the I9500 model doesn't have an LTE modem, period. It has an Intel XMM6360 DC-HSPA+ modem. This is fact, reality, set in stone.
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We don't have to wait for anything, the I9500 model doesn't have an LTE modem, period. It has an Intel XMM6360 DC-HSPA+ modem. This is fact, reality, set in stone.
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Thanks for the info!
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It has an Intel XMM6360 DC-HSPA+ modem.
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Do you have a source? :fingers-crossed:
The Octa LTE version is for Korea only. Lol
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Anyone know where will be selling the Exynos 5 version?
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Buymobilephones.net
Thats probably where im gonna get mine. It's the only place ive seen so far that is still advertising it as "1.8ghz twin quad core". There are others i have not looked at though such as clove and expansys...
Edit: expansys are selling the exynos at a premium for 589! Clove arent selling the exynos.
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He has. One of the clues where chinese guy who dismental s4 and we could see the pictures of all chips and one among them was intel....
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AndreiLux said:
LTE has nothing to do with the Exynos SoC, it's not a part of it. LTE is provided by an external modem chip.
All these articles are written by idiots who can't read the context of the original source, for the sole purpose of getting ad revenue through clicks, at the cost of publishing bull****.
SamsungExynos is the twitter account of Samsung LSI which is the semiconductor division of the Samsung Electronics subsidiary. That tweet was just a PR jab at people telling the Exynos doesn't support LTE.
Of course it does support LTE, as would any other chip on the planet. The interconnect between SoC and modem is something standard and you could probably connect a space station to it if you so wished.
That doesn't mean the S4 Exynos variant / i9500 will have LTE, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the chip itself.
Heck, even they say this in a tweet 8 minutes after the original one: https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/317339669996130306
The device manufacturer in this case is Samsung Electronics consumer electronics division, different than the semiconductor division.
**** mobile industry journalism these days. It's a bunch of baboons flinging **** together and calling it an article.
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Hey Andrei, you remember the millions of articles that wrote that the Exynos 4212 does not support LTE?
And then came GT-I9305. Them idiots will never learn.
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Buymobilephones.net
Thats probably where im gonna get mine. It's the only place ive seen so far that is still advertising it as "1.8ghz twin quad core". There are others i have not looked at though such as clove and expansys...
Edit: expansys are selling the exynos at a premium for 589! Clove arent selling the exynos.
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buymobilephones.net are unsure of which varient they will recieve and have said on twitter that they will only know when the stock arrives. The "twin quad core" spec description has been there since the device was announced to be containing the octacore.
lte causes more heat .. could very well be it is not included becuase the exynos also produces more heat than the qualcomm version
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lte causes more heat .. could very well be it is not included becuase the exynos also produces more heat than the qualcomm version
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LOL no , its nothing to do with heat + Snapdragon's are know for overheating and throttling
I heard a random rumor from a terrible source that AT&T's bands support the Octa's LTE and they might be getting that version. There's probably a 1% chance that this is true, but it's worth considering, I guess.
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I heard a random rumor from a terrible source that AT&T's bands support the Octa's LTE and they might be getting that version. There's probably a 1% chance that this is true, but it's worth considering, I guess.
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I believe we run on the 700MHz band where I live. It would be nice to be able to buy either variant of the phone and still have LTE.
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I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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Thanks for the reply. I had seen that site and the differences in bands and that's what made me ask if anyone has seen any difference in the two versions of the phone. Yes, I have either the dual sim version or the hybrid SIM, I'm not really sure since I can't find my exact model on that site. I can see that the phone was made in China and its CSC country is Panama. I can put either 2 SIM cards in the phone or one SIM card and an SD storage card (which is how I have it set up). The full model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA and that model isn't listed on the website that shows what frequencies each model can access. I was on the phone with a T-Mobile tech person when I was setting it up and she had me make a few changes to be sure I was using T-Mobile's LTE network, but I don't think she really knew much about what frequency bands I might need and not have. That's why I asked here.
I'm planning on going to my parents' next week, where T-Mobile's service isn't that great, so I'm hoping that will be a really good test for this phone. Otherwise, it seems to be working just fine for me, although it's hard for me to know if I'm getting full access in the city, where all the bands my phone has are probably supported. Maybe I should look for an app that can tell me what frequencies are available and whether my phone is able to connect, hmmmm. Anybody know of a good app like that?
Thanks so much for the reply.
I downloaded an app called Samsung Band Selection so that I could see what bands my phone actually has. When I compare the bands/frequencies that the app shows I have to what bands T-Mobile has, it looks like I'm missing two bands. One is the 4G FDD LTE band of B71(600MHz). The other band I'm missing is the 4G TDD LTE band of B46(5200). Does anyone know what issues there might be if this phone doesn't have the capability to connect to those two bands?
If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
The T-Mobile S10e models have a model number that end with TMB. I use a pre-owned, T-Mobile carrier-unlocked, Samsung Galaxy S10e.
Just my $0.02
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If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here. Maybe I don't know where to look, but so far, I'm having zero problems with this phone. Even in an area where T-Mobile doesn't have a great presence, my reception and data access was fine. I've been on the phone with T-Mobile representatives, who had me do a little tweaking when I first got the phone and I've talked to them about the 2 bandwidths that I'm missing on this phone and I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I'll check again to see if I can search out the problems you're talking about, but this phone seems to be working just fine. If I'm missing something, please point me to the right posts, though.
Thanks for the reply.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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Yeah, I went there after re-reading your last message. When I search for G970F, I find 4 threads which I don't think are going to be problems for me. Unfortunately, when I try to search for "international S10e", the search brings up hundreds of threads that have "internal" in it, rather than "international", so I'm unable to search for just my model. Apparently, their search algorithm isn't the greatest. It sounded like the biggest problem might be the fingerprint sensor not working so well after a recent upgrade. I don't plan on using the fingerprint sensor and it was just one person with the problem, so I don't know how widespread that might be.
Thanks again for the reply.
The G970U has an FM Radio that is enabled. I have verified that it works:
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I hear the G970F either doesn't have it, or it is disabled.
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I saw that difference online, as well. I'm not really sure where to look in order to verify, but from what little I've looked, I don't think it has the FM radio receiver. Not that I have a need for it, but someone else might, so always good to point that out, thanks. I would use the dual-sim capability more than an FM radio, so I'm willing to live without built-in radio. If you tell me where to look, I will verify for sure for others who might be interested.
My SM-G970UZBATMB (T-Mobile s10e) is on Build QP1A.190711.020.G970USQS4DTF6 now (7/2020).
Did your G970F get that update too?
See:
1. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G970U/TMB/doc.html
2. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...axy-s10e/software-updates-samsung-galaxy-s10e
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Mine updated a week or so ago to Build QP1A.190711.020.G970FXXS7CTG1. My Baseband version is now G970FXXS7CTF3.