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Samsung Announces Galaxy S2 HD & Galaxy S2 LTE

Samsung has taken a step forward and announced two upgraded models of Galaxy S II in Korean Market. First one is Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE and Samsung Galaxy S II LTE.
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Breaking down into details Galaxy S II LTE is definitely big brother of Galaxy S II with 1.5GHz dual-core CPU, 4.5-inch WVGA Super AMOLED Plus Display, 8MP camera, full HD video recording, TV-Out support via MHL, 16GB internal memory, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC and 1850mAh battery.
2. Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE
Looking into other one,Samsung Galaxy S II HD LTE is no less. It features 4.65-inch Super AMOLED display that supports a resolution of 1280×720 pixels. In addition to LTE, the phone supports HSPA+. Both of these will be available on all three Korean carriers – SK Telecom​, KT and LG U+.
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kinda old news it was already in General for a few days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277599
both are using the 1.5 CPU which might or might not the Exynos one
and the LTE & LTU+ only works in Korea
so i don't think we'll see them in this side of the world

Fu Korea. lol
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AllGamer said:
kinda old news it was already in General for a few days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277599
both are using the 1.5 CPU which might or might not the Exynos one
and the LTE & LTU+ only works in Korea
so i don't think we'll see them in this side of the world
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Bump in CPU Speed is a Plus here..!!

AllGamer said:
kinda old news it was already in General for a few days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277599
both are using the 1.5 CPU which might or might not the Exynos one
and the LTE & LTU+ only works in Korea
so i don't think we'll see them in this side of the world
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We're getting them on rogers in Canada . LTE just went live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal. The Galaxy S2 LTE's are going to come into the stores in the next couple of weeks.

That HD LTE, looks a lot like the Galaxy Note. Mehh I don't like all the plasticy goodness.

Shroff said:
We're getting them on rogers in Canada . LTE just went live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal. The Galaxy S2 LTE's are going to come into the stores in the next couple of weeks.
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i've a hunch the Rogers version is going to be the Hercules, not the real LTE from Korea

I'm wondering how much power does LTE consume. 3g consumes more power than 2g. What about LTE ?

Shroff said:
We're getting them on rogers in Canada . LTE just went live in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal. The Galaxy S2 LTE's are going to come into the stores in the next couple of weeks.
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Hi, I am not particularly familiar with Canadian retailers so are there any retailers in particular that would be good to watch (that one could watch for then order and have sent to the US)
Cheers,
-Gaiko
PS For the record, I am not all that interested in the LTE part (on account of the fact that I travel abroad alot) but a faster, ie 1.5 dualcore proc, is definitely of interest.

gaikokujinkyofusho said:
Hi, I am not particularly familiar with Canadian retailers so are there any retailers in particular that would be good to watch (that one could watch for then order and have sent to the US)
Cheers,
-Gaiko
PS For the record, I am not all that interested in the LTE part (on account of the fact that I travel abroad alot) but a faster, ie 1.5 dualcore proc, is definitely of interest.
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But why do ppl always need more cpu? Kernel cookers tend to underclock cpu to safe power on same performance level...consumption is already high. And the 0,5inch makes the phone even bigger (it already barely fits into my pocket) my phone is underclocked to 800mhz and undervolted as well. And i see NO differen e while gaming or in the UI....
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Interesting gadget and good technology...
but it will pleonastic technology and money (will be come with expensive price) in my country..
3G/3,5G technology still far away from optimal speed and performance in my country..
But, that is the business..

haasgo said:
But why do ppl always need more cpu? Kernel cookers tend to underclock cpu to safe power on same performance level...consumption is already high. And the 0,5inch makes the phone even bigger (it already barely fits into my pocket) my phone is underclocked to 800mhz and undervolted as well. And i see NO differen e while gaming or in the UI....
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I am not necessarily looking for the bleeding edge in terms of speed but more for "upgradability" for as long as possible. I have a HTC Kaiser for about 4 years now so when i purchase i want to get something that i don't have to bother worrying about replacing (hardware wise) for awhile... and as one upgrades OS vers one typically needs more mem and cpu.
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-Gaiko

Great Phones !!!

Will these work on AT&T currently?

as long as it support gsm
is fine

...More specifically, will the3g bands and / or LTE bands work in the US on at&t?
...and does anyone know if these are actually for sale yet in Korea?

Korea strikes again!! they did it with Hyundai, and now with the SGS2. The only thing i like more than my Hyundai is the Korean women. they love the caramel

I had a similar question.....my friend currently resides in Korea and she said she would get the phone for me and ship it to me as they are GSM but my question is......if it is unlocked will it work on T-Mobile 3G or AT&T 3G? Both use different frequencies and any confirmation on that would be good as I'm on T-Mobile and currently have the SG2. If it is compatible with T-Mobile 3G then I will most definitely wire her the money. Call me crazy but I love beast phones like this.

aleks_ said:
I had a similar question.....my friend currently resides in Korea and she said she would get the phone for me and ship it to me as they are GSM but my question is......
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Same thing for me!
I told my korean friend looking for an import version, if it exists.
If it shouldn't have to be like that, which version between skt and lgu+
would be better for european use?

there is no need to import these phones..
they are already being released in North America.
just wait it out for the official launches of LTE networks in canada in the next week. rogers just launched with 2 devices and 1 tablet and bell will be next on nov 4th. the rest will follow suit. and ATT is getting the HD LTE model as well.
save your money and wait.
i already have one btw. click link below in my sig.
also rogers got the LTE model not the hercules. the picture you have in your first post op is incorrect.
that picture only applies to the HD LTE model.

Is the Exynos a waste of time / money?

The legendary Exynos (formerly Orion) we all read so much about a year and a half ago has been on store shelves for quite some time now. While SAMSUNG continues to develop the Exynos architecture - I don't see it catching on to other phones.
Plenty of phones sold by SAMSUNG don't even use the Exynos. It was even stripped from the T-Mobile version of the GS2...
So, is it a complete failure? Should we expect SAMSUNG to just stop development after the GS3 is released worldwide?

whitecrane said:
The legendary Exynos (formerly Orion) we all read so much about a year and a half ago has been on store shelves for quite some time now. While SAMSUNG continues to develop the Exynos architecture - I don't see it catching on to other phones.
Plenty of phones sold by SAMSUNG don't even use the Exynos. It was even stripped from the T-Mobile version of the GS2...
So, is it a complete failure? Should we expect SAMSUNG to just stop development after the GS3 is released worldwide?
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Umm, how about no?
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I hope Samsung will continue to develop their architecture because from what I have seen, it is quite powerful. So do I think it was a complete failure? No.
The thing these days is that it is probably easier and cheaper for companies to just use each other's technology, like the Tegra or TI series, than invest in their own R&D. The majority of phone users are not power users and do not care about specs. If it works well then that is good enough. It is not about pushing boundaries for some.

Exynos is actually one of the best SoC's a phone can have (subject to debate). Samsung doesn't put Exynos in every phone because it's a high-end SoC, so they use it in high-end devices such as the Galaxy S line and the Galaxy Note. Apple's Ax processors are even based on Exynos.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II, as well as all US Galaxy S III's, have Snapdragons because Exynos does not support LTE nor T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 and 84 Mbps technology, which US carriers strive to make available to customers. Samsung is working on supporting LTE in future Exynos chips though!
As for other manufacturers not implementing Exynos, I'm just going to make an assumption that Samsung's competitors (Motorola, HTC, etc.) would rather use Nvidia, TI, or Qualcomm's chips instead since they don't sell phones.
So no, Exynos isn't a complete failure at all if you ask me!

But didn't anyone else think that they would be more common by now?
What does the wireless band have to do with SOC? Can't this SOC run any algorithms we want it to?
To me, that's like telling someone they need an AMD CPU to use DSL, and an Intel CPU if they want FiOS. Isn't it just a matter of writing a program to do something?
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whitecrane said:
But didn't anyone else think that they would be more common by now?
What does the wireless band have to do with SOC? Can't this SOC run any algorithms we want it to?
To me, that's like telling someone they need an AMD CPU to use DSL, and an Intel CPU if they want FiOS. Isn't it just a matter of writing a program to do something?
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Radio hardware consists of physical transistors. We're not quite at software-defined radio yet.
You DO need different hardware to run DSL vs fios. If Intel built DSL hardware onto its CPU, then you're starting to understand what a SoC is.
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ferrocene said:
Radio hardware consists of physical transistors. We're not quite at software-defined radio yet.
You DO need different hardware to run DSL vs fios. If Intel built DSL hardware onto its CPU, then you're starting to understand what a SoC is.
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Right. Computers aren't built with DSL/FIOS/VDSL/etc. modems in them. That's why we use a DSL modem box and connect to it via ethernet. However, the Exynos SoC has a modem integrated on to it that supports certain bands and technologies. The Snapdragon SoC found in the GS2 and US GS3s does not contain an integrated modem, so there is a modem chip separate on the motherboard that supports the carrier's bands and technologies.
There's a bit of a gray area with this though. Sprint's GS2 has a WiMax modem built onto it even though it still has an Exynos chip. Why we don't do that for LTE and T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42/84 is something I'd like to know lol.

whitecrane said:
The legendary Exynos (formerly Orion) we all read so much about a year and a half ago has been on store shelves for quite some time now. While SAMSUNG continues to develop the Exynos architecture - I don't see it catching on to other phones.
Plenty of phones sold by SAMSUNG don't even use the Exynos. It was even stripped from the T-Mobile version of the GS2...
So, is it a complete failure? Should we expect SAMSUNG to just stop development after the GS3 is released worldwide?
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Wow. Short-sighted/simple-minded enough? :silly:
1) Exynos is not a failure. It's been shipped in literally millions of phones. In-house consumption alone probably makes it one of the most popular SoC's on the market right now.
2) Samsung is the world's largest manufacturer of phones. I doubt they even have the fabrication facilities to make enough Exynos chips to put in all the phones they make. Also remember that although Samsung Semiconductor and Samsung Mobile are both owned by Samsung Electronics, they don't always have completely overlapping goals or business interests. And Samsung Semiconductor is also busy making many other things... like the SoC for the iPhone 3G/3GS/4/4S. Or say the vast share of the world's NAND chips.
3) Samsung has a vested stake in not relying totally on another SoC manufacturer for all their phones. It allows them better leverage with other SoC companies, and prevents them from being "blackmailed" by any one company as a source of mobile CPUs. Even if they only shipped the Exynos in 5% of their devices, it would be enough to help leverage Texas Instruments, Qualcomm, etc.
4) While many of the U.S. variants of Samsung phones don't have the Exynos chip, that's mostly for technical reasons (lack of LTE support in the currently released chips), and probably also partially to increase total yield of produced phones. That's just the U.S. market. There is in fact a world outside the United States, with people, and people who buy phones.
So... long story short: The Exynos is not a failure. And I very much doubt Samsung will be dropping development anytime soon.

Moving this to a correct board (nothing to do with the AT&T SII)...

marcocore said:
Sprint's GS2 has a WiMax modem built onto it even though it still has an Exynos chip. Why we don't do that for LTE and T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42/84 is something I'd like to know lol.
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This is exactly what I was talking about. When something is missing you simply add it on, as with anything else in computing. I just hope this doesn't go the way of Glide from 3dfx.
Anyway, I'm more "put at ease" with the responses here. Thanks xda.

whitecrane said:
But didn't anyone else think that they would be more common by now?
What does the wireless band have to do with SOC? Can't this SOC run any algorithms we want it to?
To me, that's like telling someone they need an AMD CPU to use DSL, and an Intel CPU if they want FiOS. Isn't it just a matter of writing a program to do something?
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OK here's my understanding. First all quad core processors are having issues with lte. Second SoC stands for system on a chip. Its how cell phones are so small and thin. But for some reason they are not playing nice to gether. Now Samsung was able to release a variant of sgsiii with its quad core and lte in korea because they kept them separate. But because of this the phone is a little bit thicker then usual.
So they did treat it like a PC and added it like a pci card for desktops. If that helps you understand.
The overall goal is to get it all on one chip. That way it eats up less power and slims down your phone but it is not yet possible. It is being looked into.
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marcocore said:
Exynos is actually one of the best SoC's a phone can have (subject to debate). Samsung doesn't put Exynos in every phone because it's a high-end SoC, so they use it in high-end devices such as the Galaxy S line and the Galaxy Note. Apple's Ax processors are even based on Exynos.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II, as well as all US Galaxy S III's, have Snapdragons because Exynos does not support LTE nor T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 and 84 Mbps technology, which US carriers strive to make available to customers. Samsung is working on supporting LTE in future Exynos chips though!
As for other manufacturers not implementing Exynos, I'm just going to make an assumption that Samsung's competitors (Motorola, HTC, etc.) would rather use Nvidia, TI, or Qualcomm's chips instead since they don't sell phones.
So no, Exynos isn't a complete failure at all if you ask me!
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That's not true any more seeing as the Korean GSIII will have a quad core Exynos and LTE.

tbaker077 said:
That's not true any more seeing as the Korean GSIII will have a quad core Exynos and LTE.
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It was true until Samsung produced their new chip within the past month. A quad core exynos with LTE capabilities.
So, his statement as to why t-mobile didn't use the exynos in the GSII and GSIII is 100% correct.

As I understand more, I have more concerns. Let me just say, I know what a SOC is. I'm not that much of a newbie.
I must wonder why the Exynos couldn't handle the T-Mobile HSPA+ network... It's just not that special. It's just 3G on steroids, and from what I see in the real world benchmarks, it is only a hair faster than AT&T's inferior on paper HSPA+ network. I realize it is a technical limitation (by design?), but wonder why SAMSUNG wasn't able (willing?) to design the Exynos SOC to accept it without a magic modem.
I also wonder how serious SAMSUNG is about Exynos if they're ignoring T-Mobile (shipping their flagship phone with an inferior SOC), and completley ignoring LTE up to only recently in one device that will only sell in one market. If SAMSUNG is serious about Exynos, I would think they woulod at least make it available in every market, accepting every type of radio. Traditional 3G, Wimax (we still have a huge Wimax network in the states that isn't going anywhere soon), LTE, and HSPA+. Does any other SOC standard have radio limitations?
I do not expect SAMSUNG to bundle a seperate modem outside the SOC in every market. In fact, I would think they would only do that in Korea and Japan, where they will likely sell more Exynos devices.
I have one more huge concern then. The GS2 i777 was phased out of most AT&T stores (corporate and otherwise) within 2 months of its release in favor of the GS2 "Skyrocket" with its far inferior SOC. Didn't that thing ship with a SOC based on the Cortex A8? Not even an A9?
It almost seems like my carrier did not want me to have a Galaxy S2 (with an Exynos, anyway). I bought mine on clearance at Best Buy... for $50. Within a month of its release, best buy was selling it for just $50 with a contract renewal - down from $200 just a month sooner? I think they wanted to get ride of the GS2 asap so they could order more Skyrockets.
I just don't think companies are taking Exynos seriously in the USA. Ignoring T-Mobile, ignoring Verizon. The only thing they have done right?? Sprint. Adding the Wimax modem without adding bulk to the phone was a brilliant move. That's how they're gonna sell this thing.

whitecrane said:
I have one more huge concern then. The GS2 i777 was phased out of most AT&T stores (corporate and otherwise) within 2 months of its release in favor of the GS2 "Skyrocket" with its far inferior SOC. Didn't that thing ship with a SOC based on the Cortex A8? Not even an A9?
It almost seems like my carrier did not want me to have a Galaxy S2. I bought mine on clearance at Best Buy... for $50. Within a month of its release, best buy was selling it for just $50 with a contract renewal - down from $200 just a month sooner? I think they wanted to get ride of the GS2 asap so they could order more Skyrockets.
I just don't think companies are taking Exynos seriously in the USA. I'm just glad I own one.
Does anyone know if OMAP's are cheaper to produce? It seems to me that there are far more OMAP devices than anything else out there.
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When it comes to the carrier they don't care about the hardware, because 99% of the consumers have no clue what exynos, snapdragon or tegra mean. What the normal consumer can comprehend is "Hey, this skyrocket has faster internet". So, LTE has become the selling factor.

lowandbehold said:
When it comes to the carrier they don't care about the hardware, because 99% of the consumers have no clue what exynos, snapdragon or tegra mean. What the normal consumer can comprehend is "Hey, this skyrocket has faster internet". So, LTE has become the selling factor.
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Fair enough, I agree with you. But why clearance the GS2? My market has no LTE, and probably won't for years to come.
My post above this has been edited quite a bit... in case you want to give it a second read... it's entirely related to the subject matter here.

whitecrane said:
Fair enough, I agree with you. But why clearance the GS2? My market has no LTE, and probably won't for years to come.
My post above this has been edited quite a bit... in case you want to give it a second read... it's entirely related to the subject matter here.
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Yup, but the previous generation exynos processors were not compatible with the AWS frequencies which T-mobile uses. That is why there has never been a T-mobile phone with an exynos. The Skyrocket and the T-mobile GS2 were in production at the same time, so it just seemed right to make 2 of the same exact phone (radios can be flashed on both to work on either network) to save money. Then, AT&T (through the eyes of the average consumer) had a GSII that gets slow internet, and a GSII that gets fast internet. They had to phase one out...it just happened to be the I777. It really makes sense from a business stand point, considering chips are so good these days that one can hardly tell a difference between a snapdragon or an exynos, or even quad core from dual core.

The variety of galaxy s3's

I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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deadlocked007 said:
Buy a nexus 4 and then you don't have to choose
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I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would buy a Nexus 4 if the Play Store wasn't sold out all the time
@OP, I personally have never used LTE, but I can't imagine that it's significantly faster in real-world usage than HSPA+. IMO, you should go for an international SGS3 (assuming they work on T-MO US) and live without that ridiculous carrier branding you Americans are used to .

Nickdroid86 said:
I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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You would need one specifically for T-Mobile's LTE network. If you want to buy a T-Mobile LTE-capable phone NOW, you should get the Note 2, which has an LTE chip/antenna inside that is disabled for now. Just like 3G frequencies differ across carriers, so do LTE frequencies. No existing LTE devices on other carriers will work on T-Mobile's LTE. I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.

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I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I don't think so. That's crazy.

The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.

sy224048 said:
The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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You're wrong on all accounts:
1. The Nexus 4 has slight LTE capabilities on one or two bands, which are used by AT&T, and they're weak because there's no power amp for the antenna. It happens to be left over from the Optimus G because they share the same motherboard, but it was cheaper to leave it on then to make a totally separate assembly line. There is no T-Mobile LTE compatibility in the Nexus 4.
2. The Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. T-Mobile themselves said that they're releasing a new version of the Galaxy S3 with LTE for their network. The Note 2 HOWEVER, has been proven to have an LTE chip hidden inside.
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.

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3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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I never said it was worse. I just said it's not faster. Also to add on yo what you said, the S4 has better battery efficiency. It really depends on what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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P.s. I find a nexus 4 8gb, brand new on Craigslist, but I have to pay $49 to sign on to solavei wireless (uses T-Mobile) should I just get that, pay the month they make me pay up front, then just switch in a T-Mobile card? Solavei is prepaid, so I'm not worried about black listing.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Like said MOST OF THEM WILL NOT. Google first, ask later. The s3's from other networks will not work with the 4g/hspa network because they do not have the antenna for the aws spectrum we use.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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No. Only the T-Mobile one will work because it's the only one that supports 1700 MHz (AWS). Most international phones don't support 1700 MHz (T-Mobile is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz), but will work on AT&T's bands (850/1900 MHz). However T-Mobile has been very slowly moving over to the same bands as AT&T, so soon you'll be able to use any AT&T compatible phone on T-Mobile.

I'm probably best off buying the nexus 4
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos and plus exynos is good in data rendering and executing. Plus encrypting your work is really fast on exynos even better than intel processors.
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.

zelendel said:
See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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Yeah, I have the i9300 and that's the only thing that erks me. We have the more powerful phone, we can modify Samsung ROMs, but we pretty much have (actually stable) nightlies for AOSP/AOKP based ROMs. I would have gone with a US carrier S3 if it wasn't for the S4 Dual. I game heavily (GTA 3/VC, Dead Trigger, NFS:MW, MC4, etc), so I rely on the fastest processor out there. The S4 Dual is capable as a CPU, but the Adreno GPU that comes with it is meh. The 2GB of RAM is just futureproofing and doesn't affect performance. If the US S3's had the S4 Pro (Quad), I'd have bought one. The Note 2 seems enticing but I think it's too big for me.

AT&T SGH-I337 Galaxy S4 - Discussion, Reviews, etc.

I know there are plenty of threads along this line, but as the S4 becomes available they will no doubt be splitting the forums up by Carrier, country, version or whatever. So this is specifically for the AT&T US version, SGH-I337. If that's what AT&T sticks with, it's a great model number, isn't it?
Unless things have changed, it looks good for 4/16 for pre-orders from AT&T, with actual phones coming out 4/26? :fingers-crossed:
Has anyone heard anything from Best Buy as to when they will start pre-orders? And will the 32gb version be available at first or will it come a few weeks later?
And lastly, who's going to have the first one! For bragging rights you must post a picture with receipt or some kind of proof.

theres no word from bestbuy yet on a preorder. at&t website has the s4 preorder page up but it only shows the 16gb model. i hope they offer the 32gb model tomorrow as well.

fix-this! said:
theres no word from bestbuy yet on a preorder. at&t website has the s4 preorder page up but it only shows the 16gb model. i hope they offer the 32gb model tomorrow as well.
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You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?

RTBee said:
You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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i left tmobile for at&t a month ago. i just brought my unlocked note 2 over. much better coverage and the LTE is awesome.

welcome to at&t

Just came across this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mobile-...050012.c?id=pcmcat298000050012&DCMP=rdr105310
Still no mention of when...

RTBee said:
You staying with T-Mobile or switching to At&t? I thought I read that T-Mobile would be coming out May 1st?
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Just came across this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mobile-...050012.c?id=pcmcat298000050012&DCMP=rdr105310
Still no mention of when...
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wont be tomorrow as i called them. just go to a at&t store.

Just figured I'd throw this in there! Here in California when you buy from at&t directly you have to pay the tax on the full amount of phone even if you are signing a new contract. But during Christmas time I bought my son the galaxy s3 from Walmart that was advertised at $139 with $100 gift card and I paid only $139 no more no less. No tax was added at all including free shipping. So im not sure if this is just the way it is or if it ws an anomaly. Oh it was purchased from Walmart online so maybe that's why. So in closing I think im going to wait to purchase from Walmart!
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Usually when buying online, you don't have to pay sales tax (it's a state thing). You're 'supposed to' enter that on your taxes at the end of the year under out-of-state purchases, paying the tax at that time. So, if you do it that way at least you can spread out your cost a bit.

S4 vs S3
Interesting comparison: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer
Note the differences between level 1/level 2 cache and the use of DDR3 in the S4 to DDR2 in the S3.
It also shows the S4 as having FM radio, which I do not believe will be present in the I337, nor will the selectable operations (such as being able to turn off LTE and just use 3g). Also it shows the S4 and S3 as having gorilla glass 2, whereas I've read the S4 is getting gorilla glass 3.

Samsung SGH-i337 Galaxy S 4 LTE
i found this about the Samsung SGH-i337 Galaxy S 4 LTE
Expected:Release_Date: April, 2013
Project;Codename: Samsung Altius
Browse all devices under Samsung Altius codename
Dimensions: 69.8 x 136.6 x 7.9 millimetres
Mass: 130 grams (battery included)
Software;Environment
Embeddedperating-System: Google Android 4.2.2
Browse devices running this OS
Microprocessor,:Chipset
CPU:Clock: 1900 MHz
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 APQ8064T
Browse devices based on this microprocessor
Memory,_Storage-capacity
RAM-capacity: 2 GiB
Display
Display_Type: color Super AM-OLED , 16777216 scales
Display-Diagonal: 5 "
Display_Resolution: 1080 x 1920
Video;out: 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution
Sound
Microphone(s): stereo
Loudspeaker(s): Supported
Audio;Output: 3.5mm
Cellular+Phone
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Cellular_Data-Links: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
Call:Alert: 64 -chord melody
Vibrating+Alert: Supported
Speakerphone;: Supported
Secondary;Cellular+Phone
Dual;Cellular-Network-Operation: Selectable cellular module
Secondary:Cellular:Networks: LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
Secondary:Cellularata_Links: LTE
Control-Peripherals
Positioning-Device: Multi-touch screen
Primary+Keyboard: Not supported
Directional+Pad: Not supported
Scroll-Wheel: Not supported
Interfaces
Expansion:Slots: microSD, microSDHC, TransFlash, microSDXC
USB: USB 2.0 host/client, 480Mbit/s, OTG 1.3
micro-USB
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0
Wireless_LAN: 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, 802.11ac
Infrared:Gate: Supported
Multimedia-Telecommunication
Analog-Radio-Receiver: FM radio (76-108MHz) with RDS
Digital;Media+Broadcast_Tuner: Not supported
Satellite;Navigation
Built-in:GPS-module: Supported
Complementary_GPS:Services: Assisted GPS, QuickGPS, Geotagging, Simultaneous GPS
Built-in-Digital:Camera
Main;Camera: 13.2 MP
Autofocus;(AF): Supported
Optical;Zoom: 1 x
Macro+Mode: Supported
Built-in+Flash: mobile light (LED)
Secondary;Camera: 2.1 MP
Additional+Details
Built-in+accelerometer: Supported
Battery: removable
Battery-Capacity: 2600 mAh

Thanks for info, I found it interesting that they're calling it Samsung Altius, I'd never heard that name used before.
I do like At&t's model name (I337) though. It will be their 'Elite' model. (in leet)
Just found this: http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-altius-smartwatch-leaked-14269391/ Looks like the name Altius has more to do with an upcoming 'smart watch', not the S4.

Best Buy now taking Pre-orders
Best Buy just text they're accepting pre-orders. Only the 16gb version in black or white with no mention of 32gb. They also list the unactivated full price as being 749.99??? $100 more than At&t?? What's that all about?

This is very much unlike me, but I'm thinking I may hold off a bit and see how soon they'll be offering the 32gb versions. I like the idea of having some extra overhead on internal memory, what with having the higher hd screen and such. Right now it may not make as much of a difference, but the more apps that take advantage of the higher res screens the more memory will be required.
I love my S3, so it's not a hard wait. If it takes to long, tho... :cyclops:

I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.

SlimJ87D said:
I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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It should be pretty easy I imagine?
I had the I9100M (Canadian version), which I flashed with I9100 ROMs as they were the same hardware and from then on my phone was simply an I9100.
This time around due to LTE, could we flash any I9505 ROM and then just flash our modem for our specific LTE bands? (All major Canadian network and AT&T use the same ones - However I don't know if AT&T will use 2600MHz as well like the Canadian network will).
Our phones would say I9505 in info and on boot up and not be any different aside from modem used. Or do the bands needs to be enabled both in the ROM and the modem?

SlimJ87D said:
I don't think the phones should be split up by model number, at least not the development section.
I think that the SGH-i337, GT-i9505 and other variants should have their own GENERAL DISCUSSION but share the same development section so hopefully we can figure out how to easily make ROMs interchangeable.
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I think that would be great as well, unfortunately each carrier screws around with their respective devices and not all development works as smoothly or without glitches on each one. You'd think all GT-i9505's would be the same, but then you'd have thought that all North American SGS III's would have been the same too. Some things port easily, some have issues.

RTBee said:
I think that would be great as well, unfortunately each carrier screws around with their respective devices and not all development works as smoothly or without glitches on each one. You'd think all GT-i9505's would be the same, but then you'd have thought that all North American SGS III's would have been the same too. Some things port easily, some have issues.
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The SGS3 US versions port good between them with the same hardware. The cdma versions, the tmobile version, and the remaining gsm versions kind of like how the i747 and i747m are now. When you get into different radio technologies then it seems harder to port since some hardware (radio and not just modem) should be different.
So the ATT i337 and other i9505 variants should be identical hardware wise and only have modem differences for the most part. Unless I am totally wrong here and the UK i9505 (and other European i9505's) are so different or using completely different hardware radios for different frequencies used. But we should kniw this in the next coupke of weeks for sure. I know in the past (SGS1/SGS2) that the international version and ATT version were almost identical, and close enough tbat I could flash the international version on my phone then make some necessary changes with a flashable zip to fix the modem and button configuration. Then it would work good. Both the ATT SGS1/SGS2 had the same cpu/gpu as the international version and used the SAME frequency bands for huspa and huspa+. Now I do NOT KNOW if they will be the same for the LTE bands or not, so that could be the game changer.
Now the ATT SGS3 of course was different due to different cpu/gpu compared to the International variants. But since this time around again from all I have read so far that the i9505 international variants and at least the ATT SGS4 i337 seem to be the same again hardware wise, at least that is my hope... So if this does turn out to be true this is how I see it working:
We will have subforums of the SGS4 which will include the ATT i337, the Canadian Version i337m? (Not sure if thats the name at this time), and the remaining i9505 international sharing a subforum. The Tmobile even though it is gsm but uses different frequencies for some of their bands will be seperated a bit, how much I do not know, then the cdma variants split of as well into their own subforum/s.
Just my guess here going from experience with the SGS1, SGS2, SGS3 and seeing how the sub forums played out along the way.
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Where do you guys get the model i337 from? The S2 was i777 don't quite follow the logic
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Where do you guys get the model i337 from? The S2 was i777 don't quite follow the logic
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Exynos being crippled?

I understand Exynos doesn't work with US CDMA and that is why the Qualcom versions exist. Is Samsung intentionally crippling it's own CPU to keep things the even? Verizon is EOL on their CDMA network next year really only leaving Sprint. Sprint is the 4th carrier now and only has a 12% market share. Canada is already sunsetting their CDMA too. Sprint has 12% (52 million) market share. Samsung has a 25% of that. At most that's 12 million people and much less since Samsung sales low end phones too.
Kind of silly to have to produce two models to cater to that especially with licensing and the fact that it is their chip.
I ask because I saw a thread suggesting that the camera could shoot much higher speeds on the Exynos, but was software limited.
I just want the best I can get!
Has anyone verified NextRadio and the FM antennae yet?

I'd say there are skeptical things with Qualcomm. They must have some impact on this to sell their chips in the US

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Has anyone verified NextRadio and the FM antennae yet?
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On Snapdragon versions, yes. Exynos versions no (I believe).
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Exynos 9810 has no modem built in, and CDMA compatibility has nothing to do with why the U. S. market gets the Snapdragon. Luckily Snapdragon 845 is a better SOC than the Exynos 9810 and you can rest assured you are not screwed.

This really ticks me off to hear if it is true. I am from Canada and purchased the international version this time because I read so much that bragged the Exynos version was so much faster than the Snapdragon version. Paid a pretty penny for it too! I do like my phone but my ANTUTU scores don't seem to be as good as those running SD SOC's.

Samsung apparently has a marketing agreement with Qualcomm to not sell phones with Exynos in the U.S. Otherwise, Samsung could certainly build Exynos based phones with CDMA support if they wanted to.

Guys,
Enjoy your phones, they are both more or less equal with Exynos being very slightly faster in CPU intensive tasks and Snapdragon being slightly faster in GPU (gaming) related tasks. In real world, this difference is almost unnoticeable. (0.5 to 1 second faster game launch on SD).
The good thing is that Exynos is only going to get better due to unlocked bootloader and open source development that will follow.

meyerweb said:
Samsung apparently has a marketing agreement with Qualcomm to not sell phones with Exynos in the U.S. Otherwise, Samsung could certainly build Exynos based phones with CDMA support if they wanted to.
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How long is that in place?

I was pretty sure samsung would not nerf their own processor but now I'm sure they did. We can all claim it is for battery reasons or something, but I believe that it is so that it can be neck and neck with the snapdragon.
These screenshots were taken a few minutes ago, after I flashed a custom kernel and unrestricted the 4 big cores so they are able to hit 2.9ghz and the little ones 2.0ghz. I believe that 2.7ghz is what was running for most of the benchmarks, but it hits 2.9ghz on the CPU scaling Log.
Exynos is, in fact the second best processor on a smartphone right after the A11 and would most likely match it on geekbench (surpasses it on antutu even stock) if I could lock the frequency at 2.9ghz but minimum can only be set to 2.0ghz and so it goes up and down and there is only the stock governor to choose from and that is utter crap.
Any doubts I'll help as best as I can.

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How long is that in place?
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No idea, I'm afraid.