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So back in December, Samsung stated that ICS would be available for Galaxy devices in Q1 2012 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397850,00.asp - among other sources).
Someone asked on Facebook when the update for the Galaxy Nexus S was coming and Samsung stated that "ICS updates for Galaxy devices will be available in early Q2." (https://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada/posts/10150560045396050)...
Idk, that may be a bit different because the Nexus S is in the original Galaxy S family. Those are going to be updated after all the Galaxy S2 devices. They actually weren't even going to release the update for those phones initially.
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Some rumors said march first, which would be q1 and not going to happen. Some leaked document i saw said april which would be early q2. God knows what they are doing over there. I want aosp/cm9 anyway, but if they release ics it might help get us closer.
I am so sick of this too.....
From now on I am only getting Nexus Devices
I'm sick of it too, but used to it. They just released official Gingerbread for the Captivate (my previous phone) a few weeks ago after XDA users had been running leaked versions for several months. But the devs here on XDA already have (as I understand it) some pretty kickass ICS roms available for the Captivate.
Don't hold your breath waiting for AT&T/Samsung. We'll have ICS here on XDA long before they make it officially available (but...without a secure element we won't be able to use Google Wallet--not sure how they're going to solve that one...re-issued sim cards maybe?)
Sounds like it's all Galaxy devices:
https://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada/posts/10150560045396050
That being said, I wasn't holding my breath either for an official release but figured when one came it might help speed up some things here on XDA or for the CM guys.
And yeah, I was running ICS on my Cappy for a couple months before it died (needed a new mobo so the cost of upgrading to the SGS II LTE was actually cheaper than the repair on my Cappy - go figure)... the official Samsung/Rogers upgrade cycle on the Cappy was horrendous as well, bought it with Froyo, an hour later had CM7 on it, and it wasn't long afte they updated officially to GB that I was running TeamHacksung ICS alpha builds on it.
We'll be lucky to get official ICS before Jellybean is released
That is Samsung mobile Canada stating that. So may be different for us in the states. But what I think is funny is the vivid is getting the update soon, and if I'm not wrong both phones came out on the same day. So no blaming this on the carrier this time. Damn Sammy LOL.
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That is Samsung mobile Canada stating that. So may be different for us in the states. But what I think is funny is the vivid is getting the update soon, and if I'm not wrong both phones came out on the same day. So no blaming this on the carrier this time. Damn Sammy LOL.
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True, it is Samsung Mobile Canada - I wasn't expecting us (or the US) to get it in Q1 anyways (officially) as the original statement I believe was for the international versions of the Galaxy S II/Note. Still, was hoping that the international stock rom would help jump/fix kinks some of the developers here are trying to overcome.
I'm in Canada, so I can only hope
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So back in December, Samsung stated that ICS would be available for Galaxy devices in Q1 2012 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397850,00.asp - among other sources).
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To clarify, they only said the international versions of the S II and the Note would get it in Q1. The others that were announced to get ICS have never been given a time frame, other than that they would follow those two.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on that point.
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To clarify, they only said the international versions of the S II and the Note would get it in Q1. The others that were announced to get ICS have never been given a time frame, other than that they would follow those two.
There seems to be a lot of confusion on that point.
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Yes, I do understand that fully. Not holding my breath that the international version will be rolling out any time soon either.
Looking into the dev forum there are two promising roms one in alpha 1 with basic functions working and another one that the mods and the dev keep fighting over is a lot further along but I think was taken down again :-(. I'm guessing we have about a month maybe a bit more before we have some awesome functioning ics rom's
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Well Q1 is still not done with, we got a whole month for them to hopefully release.
technicalities... Huge companies always drag there feet, I almost guarantee the skyrocket dev community will have ics before everyone else
ICS is ready for deployment, Samsung is waiting for approval from Google.
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ICS is ready for deployment, Samsung is waiting for approval from Google.
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Please state your sources and elaborate
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He's probably right, if the galaxy nexus has it, with an SOC which isn't so dissimilar to ours, they're probably sitting on it. I was also over in the t989 forum and it was stated the kang Juggernaut devs got an ics samsung release leak but are sitting on it as well. If they have it, guarantee for our phones its done
I'm not doubting if someone can back it up but thats the dudes first post not very reputable
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I was just speaking in common sensical terms lol, but yeah, first post is kinda shaddy if he meant it as a concrete statement. He has been lurking since July though
From Eldar tweet:
"Eldar Murtazin@eldarmurtazin
ICS update on the way for SGS2 9at least in Russia) - Samsung ready to deliver it and waiting for Google approval only (from Feb, 21)"
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Tittle says it all. I am using a Samsung SGH-T639 (flip phone) and i cant do use it much longer, but at the same time, i need to play my next move smart.
Its either the HTC one S, or wait for the Galaxy S 3. which leads to the question, How much longer after May 3rd will US carrier most likely get the S3?
Please shed some light on this topic, i have not heard of or seen any news or info about the US release.
Remains to be seen, but there is speculation that Samsung might try for a closer release, at least in terms of it following the EU release. Only speculation and, unless something happened today, there isn't really any info on the matter. Would be nice to see them closer in terms of regional releases, as well as seeing the various carriers get them at reasonable time between them.
More information is sure to follow after the official announcement.
nop,its not...........
If it does not release in america at the same time, then you can always get yours off ebay.
I'm in australia got my Gs2 off ebay (UK model)
im here with latest update..
http://www.mobilenapps.com/articles/1891/20120428/galaxy-s3-release-date-specs-exynos-4.htm
Galaxy S3 is releasing May 3 ....
They are announcing the phone on May 3rd not releasing it.
latest rumors have the US version being a dual core. I would bet on this myself.
You could always buy internationally.
Now the Americans know how it feels to have to wait for something. Normally you guys get everything first lol
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i got some necessary information here....thanks gys
Samsung sucks!
Im upset the Galaxy S3 wont get the Exynos quad core chip!! I really think this will be a huge blunder for Samsung like how they released the S2 in North America 6 months after its initial release. This sucks! I used to be a fan of Samsung and if T-mobile gets the htc one x I will get that instead!
There will be two variants of Galaxy S4.
I9500 with Exynos 5 Octa 5410 at 1.6Ghz and I9505 with Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 at 1.9Ghz. Read more here
Which version is best for you ? Have a read this post by AndreiLux regarding 8 core CPU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
News :fingers-crossed:
Telstra is taking details from customers who are eager for the S4 via a web form, pricing and availability will be confirmed closer to launch.
Vodafone users can register your interest in the new Galaxy phone online, with pricing to be determined at a later date.
Optus users can register for "the latest updates on pricing and availability for the Samsung Galaxy S4" from here.
I will do my best to keep updating this thread for all Australian users for help & tips for rooting etc..
Guides
I9505 Rooting -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219803
I9500 Rooting -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
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But the question is, are we getting the exynos or s600? I think it should be safe to assume we'll get this in 4g anyway...
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Telstra and Optus received the S600 soc version for testing.
Release is 30th April on all three carriers from what ive heard so far.
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Crazy CS said:
Telstra and Optus received the S600 soc version for testing.
Release is 30th April on all three carriers from what ive heard so far.
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Very disappointing..not that there's anything wrong with the s600, bit was thinking the octa might have awesome battery life....I'll get out from Kogan anyway, but assume it'll be the s600 too..
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Very disappointing..not that there's anything wrong with the s600, bit was thinking the octa might have awesome battery life....I'll get out from Kogan anyway, but assume it'll be the s600 too..
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Im actually happy about this. Because we'll have better support with AOSP based ROMs... And I don't think there will be a noticable difference between those two battery wise and performance unless you did a benchmark. But when it comes to real worl performance apps arent even using benifit of a quad core cpu at the moment. So octa core just an over kill.. If you gonna get it from Kogan im pretty sure that they will sell 3G only international version as well..
What im wishing for not to have a whole different device for Australia like S2 4G model from telstra with no developer support and lack of updates..
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Im actually happy about this. Because we'll have better support with AOSP based ROMs... And I don't think there will be a noticable difference between those two battery wise and performance unless you did a benchmark. But when it comes to real worl performance apps arent even using benifit of a quad core cpu at the moment. So octa core just an over kill.. If you gonna get it from Kogan im pretty sure that they will sell 3G only international version as well..
What im wishing for not to have a whole different device for Australia like S2 4G model from telstra with no developer support and lack of updates..
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Yeah there is that side to it as well. I'd really think that we should be able to get the 4g version from Kogan, they have both versions of the s3. They tend to be pretty cheap, and I don't like carrier locked phones and contracts...
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Im ordering mine from the UK upon release.
http://www.handtec.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s4.html
Sources ive been reading suggest Australia isnt going to be getting them in the first 5 countries, so expect longer than 30th April delays previously stated above. However i could be wrong.
Why wait for them to appear in local stores, when you can order online.... Its cheaper overseas and you will get one far quicker. They also have far less bloatware on them from the UK than the local Optus, Telstra or Vodafone stores... (not that bloatware is much of an issue once you've got it rooted, but there will be a week or 2 without root access where this will be annoying lol)
Just a thought.
Like usual, I'll be getting the international version - cheaper, quicker, and know the exact version. It alone usually has enough bloat without the carrier stuff
Thanks for info, i registered my interest with Telstra.
Sunny
It's a bit sad, contacting Optus via twitter to query upgrading to the S4.
Find out that it will cost more to upgrade early than to buy the phone outright..
It's not like made of money or anything..
Seriously hate mobile contracts that last 24 months..
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Very disappointing..not that there's anything wrong with the s600, bit was thinking the octa might have awesome battery life....I'll get out from Kogan anyway, but assume it'll be the s600 too..
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Geez, be careful if you get one from Kogan. Apart from ****ty customer service, ALL of the Samsungs (and we assume other brands too) are international models which means you have to trust Kogan to handle the warranty as Samsung Australia will not touch them under any circumstances.
I have had this discussion at length with the Management of Samsung and the ACCC and while Kogan aren't necessarily doing anything wrong (unless you could grey/parallel importing), you could be up **** creek if it breaks.
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Had my SGS3 Motherboard replaced today and was chatting to one of the Senior Telstra staff for a while about the SGS4.
For what it's worth, the rumor (and I stress ONLY a rumor) is that we'll be getting a quad-core SGS4, not the octa-core.
Given that we got the quad core SGS3 and the US got the dual core, I can't see it myself.
The other possibility was a quad-core 3G but an octa-core 4G.
Comments ??
i'll wait till someone roots it and ports CM to it before i get this phone.
Just order it from else where
. My mate has 4 on order from his importer... Will be the Octa core with 4G he told me.. I bagged one of them
btemtd said:
Just order it from else where
. My mate has 4 on order from his importer... Will be the Octa core with 4G he told me.. I bagged one of them
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Some of us don't have that option sadly.
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i'll wait till someone roots it and ports CM to it before i get this phone.
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Too bad there will be no CM support for S4... CM abandonin future samsung devices
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which one should I get? snapdragon or octo version??
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So if I have this right, we will be getting the snapdragon version which will be 3g only? To be honest not fussed about 4g as I work remotely a fair amount of the time. Plus I figure the snapdragon will still be lightning fast..
Super keen for the decent dev support too, whether that is CM or not remains to be seen I guess!
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So if I have this right, we will be getting the snapdragon version which will be 3g only? To be honest not fussed about 4g as I work remotely a fair amount of the time. Plus I figure the snapdragon will still be lightning fast..
Super keen for the decent dev support too, whether that is CM or not remains to be seen I guess!
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I believe it's the other way around. The snapdragon will be 4g capable while the Octa will be 3g.
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I got 2 questions. 1.If I upgrade from the GTi9100 from Vodafone - 3g will I have the option to choose from E5O or SD600. And If I buy unlocked will I get the choice between the two. I want the Octa even though the SD will have better support Thanks.
I thought octa core version will have many roms.
Wrong buy huhu
There is kernel thou.
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I thought octa core version will have many roms.
Wrong buy huhu
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2/3 of SGS4's shipped are S-600 and the i9500 is only available in smaller markets without the prospects of LTE. If devs in major markets (EU, US, Asia) have access to LTE it shouldn't be shocking they'd want to own an LTE-capable phone. So it shouldn't be a surprise that Octa has less dev support just based on fewer being sold and the markets it's available in.
Balong020 said:
I thought octa core version will have many roms.
Wrong buy huhu
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Its a New device, with time will have more
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2/3 of SGS4's shipped are S-600 and the i9500 is only available in smaller markets without the prospects of LTE. If devs in major markets (EU, US, Asia) have access to LTE it shouldn't be shocking they'd want to own an LTE-capable phone. So it shouldn't be a surprise that Octa has less dev support just based on fewer being sold and the markets it's available in.
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In terms of non-stock ROMs (CM, AOKP etc.) that's only part of the reason though, and not even the main one. The primary reason for a lack of ROMs is the Exynos chip set and the devs refusing to work with it thanks to Samsung.
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Wait for cm to release something!
Me Gusta!
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You'll be waiting a long time. So far no maintainers have expressed interest in touching another Exynos device.
There's always the possibility someone new will do the bringup, but so far, it's not likely.
It is normal! Nobody want to devote time and resources to a device that has a defective SoC! Even Samsung have acknowledged that there is a serious flaw in the core switching logic of Exynos 5410 that can't be repaired with a software patch and they have began to build the newer fixed Exynos 5420
I'm a owner of a gt I9505. Flashed a dozen roms already and kernels. Can't decide what I want. So many to pick, just wanted to tell you that.
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I'm a owner of a gt I9505. Flashed a dozen roms already and kernels. Can't decide what I want. So many to pick, just wanted to tell you that.
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Trololololollollolooool
Me Gusta!
Just out of intrest, why do devs hate exynos chipset so much? And HAHA!
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Still we get 6 hours screen on time which is great!! Isn't it??
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We have hundreds of this topics which are running in useless desert feeling..just look for the other topics via search Button
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for anyone on the fence regarding 9500/9505, I would highly recommend i9505 if you are planning to mod.
There is already an active community of 9505 modders, and is growing daily. However there is no guarantee the issues with the Exynos chip will be resolved in the immediate future.
Any speed/power savings in the 9500 octacore chip are neglibile IMO and with a dearth of frequently updated roms for it, I think the 9505 is the way to go.
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for anyone on the fence regarding 9500/9505, I would highly recommend i9505 if you are planning to mod.
There is already an active community of 9505 modders, and is growing daily. However there is no guarantee the issues with the Exynos chip will be resolved in the immediate future.
Any speed/power savings in the 9500 octacore chip are neglibile IMO and with a dearth of frequently updated roms for it, I think the 9505 is the way to go.
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exynos chip will be rsolved? resolved what ? The difference is only with cm/aokp roms to which maintainers are reluctant to start(thank u ****shung). The rest of the development/mods is a different story, both are similar.
If there is a mod available for 9505 alone(which is unlikely since all the rom mods will be common for both)its just a matter of time before someone do it for 9500.
There are already a bundle of stock modded roms available for 9500.
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Just out of intrest, why do devs hate exynos chipset so much? And HAHA!
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They hate it because of Samsung! There is no complete documentation for the SoC, no compete sources, and the fact that the Exynos 5410 have a hardware flaw (that can't be fixed) doesn't help either!
OrionBG said:
They hate it because of Samsung! There is no complete documentation for the SoC, no compete sources, and the fact that the Exynos 5410 have a hardware flaw (that can't be fixed) doesn't help either!
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What hardware flaw?
OrionBG said:
They hate it because of Samsung! There is no complete documentation for the SoC, no compete sources, and the fact that the Exynos 5410 have a hardware flaw (that can't be fixed) doesn't help either!
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hardware flaw? explain! , you can call it a missing feature/implementation. the term "hardware flaw" will always mislead the users in general. a feature which was never promised to be available for end users cannot be called as a flaw. It lacks one of the implementation/features of big little architecture and thats it.
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Just out of intrest, why do devs hate exynos chipset so much? And HAHA!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40289495&postcount=228
And since I'm coming from i9100 exynos, there's been lot of frustration and waiting (mainly the hwcomposer). You could search & read i9100 threads and find out more reasons :laugh:.
If you're a rom junkie don't hold your breath for Exynos, just switch to Nexus 4 or wait a little bit longer for Nexus 5 like me.
Korean site Samsung Mobile is unboxing the brand new LTE Advance version of the Galaxy SIV (SHV-E330S), that packs the first world Snapdragon 800 chipset to hit retail stores (later this week). I do not hold copyright over the content, hopefully it's okay to post their pictures and upcoming info. Nice color versions BTW!
http://blog.naver.com/m_style_dj/70170354737?viewType=pc
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Galaxy S4 Octa-core vs. S4-Advance benchmarks
I see it's coming out in 32gb..Samsung is getting greedy and these iterations will drive their revenues down in a year. You can't be serious, after an unfinished s4,
Coming out with active then lte a then zoom, and none of these have the octa-core which just proves that the chip was a failure
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I see it's coming out in 32gb..Samsung is getting greedy and these iterations will drive their revenues down in a year. You can't be serious, after an unfinished s4,
Coming out with active then lte a then zoom, and none of these have the octa-core which just proves that the chip was a failure
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maybe samsung self destruction mode : on.
i cant stand the way samsung launch new product. samsung timing is very bad
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maybe samsung self destruction mode : on.
i cant stand the way samsung launch new product. samsung timing is very bad
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Theoretically it's the same old S4 sporting yet another hardware pack, suspicions of the Octa-troubles and/or Qualcomm's better LTE energy management are probably true.
If this goes international which i have a feeling it just might with 32Gb for the same price i paid for my original S4, I'll be mighty pissed off tbh.
I've noticed recently the price of the S4 has skydived in some places to well under £500.
Snapdragon800 in the S4 LTE-A and other upcoming flagships is insane!
http://blog.gsmarena.com/alleged-sony-xperia-z-ultra-antutu-benchmark-surfaces/
I'm quite pissed off now.
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I'm quite pissed off now.
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Me too buddy,
Its really rude what samsung is doing !
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Ppl. shouldn't be too pissed, just accept that things got sped up lately. Last September Note II broke benchmark records then it was bested in mere weeks by the S4 Pro SoC, then SD600 put that into the past via HTC One in March, then then the Octa-core shattered records in April, and now that the SD800 is out, Samsung cannot NOT put that into it's LTE-A S4 refreshment. I guess it'd be easier to swallow if it only got an updated Octa-core, but there is no such a thing after the Exynos mess. So you need to swallow this one, and then the LTE-A buyers when Note III breaks their records, then Tegra 4 comes out on top, then say hello to Ativ Q and Core i5 Haswell powered Android. That's how things go today, and I hope this eases your (understandable) pain.
I want one... Where can I order it? I was going to get octa one but with all the problem, going for this one. But I can't find a preorder website for it.
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I want one... Where can I order it? I was going to get octa one but with all the problem, going for this one. But I can't find a preorder website for it.
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For now, this is an exclusive to the Korean carrier that launches the LTE-A network, and it is not yet available.
IIIPowerIII said:
I want one... Where can I order it? I was going to get octa one but with all the problem, going for this one. But I can't find a preorder website for it.
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Considering the fact it is designed for the Korean market, it will probably have some funky bands and won't be compatible with most other markets.
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Ppl. shouldn't be too pissed, just accept that things got sped up lately.
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Exactly. The same discussion took place on the One forum when the Butterfly S was announced with better specs. A "flagship" doesn't come with any guarantees of the duration of its status. And "newer" happens all the time; the auto industry is a good example. How did people that bought a 2012 Range Rover late in the year feel when a completely redesigned version was launched a couple of months later?
As for LTE-A, S-800, Octa and the like it comes down to connectivity. Qualcomm makes 90% of the radios in mobile devices including a lot of previous Exynos-equipped Samsung devices. There are 40 LTE bands globally and current Qualcomm radios max out at 6. Using a Qualcomm SoC with a Qualcomm radio makes sense with the sudden importance of LTE. It’s actually kind of cool that Samsung Corporate doesn’t force Samsung Electronics to use Samsung Semiconductor products and instead pick what best accomplishes the mission. As for S-800 in the SGS4 LTE-A perhaps it's tied to compatibility with the new LTE-A radio. The SGS4 (or One, or XZ, or OG) don't need a S-800 chip to perform well. Any lag or s/w issues with the standard i9500/05 aren't h/w related as their benchmarks are superior to other devices that aren't having those issues. And battery life is unknown but it's certainly going to consume more energy than S-600. And Samsung probably spent about $500+MM on R&D for big.LITTLE. So if 1/3 of the 60MM SGS4's sold this year are Octa that equals $25 per phone sold which based on a BOM cost of $30 would have been a complete waste of time. They aren't that stupid and I personally believe you'll see Octa use ramp-up once Qualcomm releases the RF-360 40-band LTE radio this fall. That radio brings to LTE the compatibility that currently exists for GSM bands. The N3 could be the first device using RF-360 based on its fall launch schedule and if it is I’d bet anyone here the N3 will be Octa. Maybe not the same version of Octa as in the SGS4 but Octa nonetheless. 17 companies have licensed big.LITTLE from ARM and 7 chips are to be released this year. So big.LITTLE/Octa isn't going away; in fact it's in its infancy.
As for the gazillion "Galaxy's" Samsung's producing that's smart. Each is aimed at a pretty defined niche and allows the expanded portfolio to appeal to more people increasing sales prospects. I think the mission of the SGS4 Active against the SGS4 is a lot more defined than the Butterfly S against the One with the latter two being competing high-end phones aimed at exactly the same market.
All just my opinion of course.
BarryH_GEG said:
They aren't that stupid and I personally believe you'll see Octa use ramp-up once Qualcomm releases the RF-360 40-band LTE radio this fall. That radio brings to LTE the compatibility that currently exists for GSM bands. The N3 could be the first device using RF-360 based on its fall launch schedule and if it is I’d bet anyone here the N3 will be Octa.
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You are incorrect. RF-360 from Qualcomm is an RF front end... not a baseband radio.
BarryH_GEG said:
Exactly. The same discussion took place on the One forum when the Butterfly S was announced with better specs. A "flagship" doesn't come with any guarantees of the duration of its status. And "newer" happens all the time; the auto industry is a good example. How did people that bought a 2012 Range Rover late in the year feel when a completely redesigned version was launched a couple of months later?
As for LTE-A, S-800, Octa and the like it comes down to connectivity. Qualcomm makes 90% of the radios in mobile devices including a lot of previous Exynos-equipped Samsung devices. There are 40 LTE bands globally and current Qualcomm radios max out at 6. Using a Qualcomm SoC with a Qualcomm radio makes sense with the sudden importance of LTE. It’s actually kind of cool that Samsung Corporate doesn’t force Samsung Electronics to use Samsung Semiconductor products and instead pick what best accomplishes the mission. As for S-800 in the SGS4 LTE-A perhaps it's tied to compatibility with the new LTE-A radio. The SGS4 (or One, or XZ, or OG) don't need a S-800 chip to perform well. Any lag or s/w issues with the standard i9500/05 aren't h/w related as their benchmarks are superior to other devices that aren't having those issues. And battery life is unknown but it's certainly going to consume more energy than S-600. And Samsung probably spent about $500+MM on R&D for big.LITTLE. So if 1/3 of the 60MM SGS4's sold this year are Octa that equals $25 per phone sold which based on a BOM cost of $30 would have been a complete waste of time. They aren't that stupid and I personally believe you'll see Octa use ramp-up once Qualcomm releases the RF-360 40-band LTE radio this fall. That radio brings to LTE the compatibility that currently exists for GSM bands. The N3 could be the first device using RF-360 based on its fall launch schedule and if it is I’d bet anyone here the N3 will be Octa. Maybe not the same version of Octa as in the SGS4 but Octa nonetheless. 17 companies have licensed big.LITTLE from ARM and 7 chips are to be released this year. So big.LITTLE/Octa isn't going away; in fact it's in its infancy.
As for the gazillion "Galaxy's" Samsung's producing that's smart. Each is aimed at a pretty defined niche and allows the expanded portfolio to appeal to more people increasing sales prospects. I think the mission of the SGS4 Active against the SGS4 is a lot more defined than the Butterfly S against the One with the latter two being competing high-end phones aimed at exactly the same market.
All just my opinion of course.
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On average (non-gaming) usage I can see the SD800's newer build being easier on the battery than the SD600, but we'll see. What is your prediction for the Note III's Octa-based GPU? Surely it has to go against the Adreno 330 so it must be something strong.
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On average (non-gaming) usage I can see the SD800's newer build being easier on the battery than the SD600, but we'll see. What is your prediction for the Note III's Octa-based GPU? Surely it has to go against the Adreno 330 so it must be something strong.
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I too wonder if the s800 will sip on the battery more lightly with the beefed up GPU. The adreno330 can supposedly handle 4k resolution so 1080p oughta be a cakewalk and allow it to run on a lower stepping and voltage. Just a theory. I also hope the note3 is full rgb also. Pentile looks fine in 1080p but I want all my subpixels dammit.
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racerex said:
You are incorrect. RF-360 from Qualcomm is an RF front end... not a baseband radio.
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I get ***** slapped every time I bring it up. This is the problem it solves and the only reason I mention it.
SAN DIEGO – February 21, 2013 – Qualcomm Incorporated (NASDAQ: QCOM) today announced that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., introduced the Qualcomm RF360 Front End Solution, a comprehensive, system-level solution that addresses cellular radio frequency band fragmentation and enables for the first time a single, global 4G LTE design for mobile devices.http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
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On average (non-gaming) usage I can see the SD800's newer build being easier on the battery than the SD600, but we'll see. What is your prediction for the Note III's Octa-based GPU? Surely it has to go against the Adreno 330 so it must be something strong.
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My WAG is they go back to Mali and use a T-6XX.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6136/arm-announces-8core-2nd-gen-malit600-gpus
Samobile who's right less than half the time thinks it'll be a Mali 450.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/01/rumor-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-8-core-cpu-and-8-core-gpu/
BarryH_GEG said:
I get ***** slapped every time I bring it up. This is the problem it solves and the only reason I mention it.
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RF-360 won't be offered with non-Qualcomm modems.
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Samobile who's right less than half the time thinks it'll be a Mali 450.
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Where would such a GPU rank compared to the Adreno 330?