I want to update my Rom from NSCallob 1.0.51 to 1.0.60 without losing my apps or at least using some kind of backup to restore my apps after the update. Any help would be great thanks.
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Titanium backup for sure.
I don't know that ROM specifically, but if it is just a minor release update you may not have to wipe anything but dalvik cache. Personally, i'd do a nandroid backup, wipe dalvik cache and cache, then flash the new version. If there is trouble, restore the nandroid, use titanium backup and do a full wipe, then restore with TB.
krisnicaj said:
I want to update my Rom from NSCallob 1.0.51 to 1.0.60 without losing my apps or at least using some kind of backup to restore my apps after the update. Any help would be great thanks.
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Just wiping dalvik cache will surfice when updating NSCollab! I know because I've done it myself with this rom on quite a few occasions!
Yup just wiping the dalvik cache will it freeze at the Google bootup screen, luckily I didn't a backup prior to the update!
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Sorry for the ignorance.
I have version 6 of custom rom, if i flash the versione 8 I lose data? Or is it just as an update?
thanks
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If the developer tells you to do a factory wipe or wipe data, then you'll lose your data. But most cases when a developer makes a new version, you can just wipe both caches and update your rom without having to wipe your data.
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Just to add a little to the previous post.
You could usually get away with just wiping dalvic
As for doing a full wipe where you would lose your data: thats usually only needed if the dev went from one milestone version to another on the ASOP.
Example from a GB based ROM to a ICS based.
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What they said above . In case a full wipe is required as noted by the ROM devs, I would recommend using Titanium Backup to backup your apps and apps data before wipe. You can then restore apps + data after flashing the new ROM or update. TiBu has saved me a lot of time restoring apps after a full wipe.
Thank you all for your responses!
This rom (CyberGR-MOD) run the wipe? Is there anyone who uses it?
A dirty flash is only wiping cache and davlik then flashing your ROM....
a Clean flash is at LEAST factory reset/data wipe + wiping davlik(factory wipe takes care of /cache also)... Maybe doing a format /system also.
SO let the games begin! Which is better?! FIGHT!!
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Brian Gove said:
A dirty flash is only wiping cache and davlik then flashing your ROM....
a Clean flash is at LEAST factory reset/data wipe + wiping davlik(factory wipe takes care of /cache also)... Maybe doing a format /system also.
SO let the games begin! Which is better?! FIGHT!!
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If I switch ROM's I factory reset then wipe cache and dalvik cache. If it's a theme for example I only wipe cache and dalvik cache since the theme is suppose to be made for your ROM right?....don't see the reason to reflash the ROM as well.
Wipe data? What's that for? Is THAT why my phone won't turn on..........
Nightlies: No data wipe (yes to cache/dakvik)
New rom, even if it's the same android build: always, full wipe
Themes: No wipe at all, flash right on, right after flashing rom's. Don't like to wait for two bootups!
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Il throw a vote to whichever works.. I usually dirty wipe.. If I have issues then clean it and try again.. With nightlies I tend to be fine dirty a lot, but even still I will do a clean every couple weeks just because..
why do so many folks wipe cache and dalvik after they wipe data? A data wipe/factory reset wipes all three, there is no need to do anything else.
I always wipe data, flash rom, then advance restore data only from a nandroid...dirty flashing in its most elegant form
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
Do you wipe prior to re-flashing, or afterwards? Does it matter?
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What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
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Dirty wipe
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When I dirty flash, I wipe data cache n dalvik cache. Once I flash what I wanted, I wipe those two once again n select "fix permissions" just in case
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apet8464 said:
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
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I disagree. I believe a dirty flash also wipes system. If you are 100% certain that your ROM build effectively wipes system as part of it's install routine, then you could skip this step, however I always wipe system to be safe. This works for me and I rarely need to wipe data or sd card(s).
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xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that?
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When changing Kernels but not the ROM in a separate recovery session than a ROM flash, you don't need to "dirty wipe." Just wipe cache and dalvik. Dalvik wipe is key so that the dalvik virtual machine can be rebuilt by the new kernel.
Thanks for the info guys.
I usually dirty on nightlies until I have issues. Always clean when switching roms.
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It is always good to complete wipe when switching roms.
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What if im just switching between stock rom nandroid backups? Can I just restore from one to one? I only have two backups anyways both for stock. Never flashed a rom before
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grin0048 said:
This isn't meant to be rude or anything, I'm just honestly wondering if there's any logical reason to think this is substantively different than just not wiping data?
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I find that this method works better than just wiping cache and dalvik, since im advance restoring data over a clean flash. both ways are considered dirty flashing tho.
I wipe dalvik, cache and battery stats. Works like a charm thus far. Wiping data is what blows out the IMEI correct?
coldhardtruth said:
I wipe dalvik, cache and battery stats. Works like a charm thus far. Wiping data is what blows out the IMEI correct?
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Incorrect, flashing anything is what may lead to losing your IMEI. Backup using the appropriate tools in the development section. Btw stop wiping battery stats, it's not necessary.
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droidstyle said:
why do so many folks wipe cache and dalvik after they wipe data? A data wipe/factory reset wipes all three, there is no need to do anything else.
I always wipe data, flash rom, then advance restore data only from a nandroid...dirty flashing in its most elegant form
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Factory reset doesn't touch the davlik(Which I speculate(Guess) has to do more with the kernel than anything)
apet8464 said:
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
Do you wipe prior to re-flashing, or afterwards? Does it matter?
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This is what I meant as a dirty flash when I made the thread yes...
xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
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Usually when I flash a new kernel, or a different kernel, I just wipe the davlik cache and I am fine. There was some reboots after the first boot on the AOSP ROMs but afterwards it ran fine.
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Incorrect, flashing anything is what may lead to losing your IMEI. Backup using the appropriate tools in the development section. Btw stop wiping battery stats, it's not necessary.
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SlimSnoop is correct. According to one of the developers of a very prominent ROM the IMEI issue was because our phones got confused sometimes(Randomly phone to phone) and tried to reset during a flash. The data it tried to reset was bogus, therefor losing IMEI. He is also correct far as the wiping battery stats. It's only usefull when you have really strange results with battery. Google for the real reason to use them.
Far as backing up your IMEI so you will never run into the problem of losing it.... go into your terminal (almost every ROM has a Terminal emulator)
Type this:
su
then hit enter. Grant permissions
then type:
reboot nvbackup
then hit enter. This will make your phone do some shyt and reboot, but you really shouldn't need to worry about your IMEI after this. Regardless of how many ROMs you flash or what you do or who you date or who you kiss, etc... blah blah....
This really should be the end all for the IMEI...
annoyngduck said:
Wipe data? What's that for? Is THAT why my phone won't turn on..........
Nightlies: No data wipe (yes to cache/dakvik)
New rom, even if it's the same android build: always, full wipe
Themes: No wipe at all, flash right on, right after flashing rom's. Don't like to wait for two bootups!
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New rom only when their bases are different , like going from ics to jb, or the dev says to do it (Even then Ill try it without a wipe because im lazy).
Themes I never wipe anything
Nightlies never wipe anything.
Edit: If I do have issues I then go back and wipe delvik and cache . That usually straightens out any issues and allows me to keep my setup.
tonu42 said:
Hey but you know I'm right
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Actually you're not right.
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Hey, I was wondering, when I am in Clockworkmod do i have to wipe dalvik data cache and format phone? I saw a vid on youtube where i have to do all of that. do i really? or just data and cache?
MyNameMikee said:
Hey, I was wondering, when I am in Clockworkmod do i have to wipe dalvik data cache and format phone? I saw a vid on youtube where i have to do all of that. do i really? or just data and cache?
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Yes. You should always wipe.
In order.
factory reset,
format cache,
Advanced --> wipe dalvick cache,
Mounts and storage --> format system
Than flash your goodies!
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It is always best to wipe everything. Especially when you change Roms. If you are on a cm rom and you are just upgrading to the newest version you can just wipe cache & dalvik cache, flash rom, flash gapps, & reboot. I have done it this way for years & haven't had any problems. Most people prefer to wipe everything though.
TY so much
MyNameMikee said:
Hey, I was wondering, when I am in Clockworkmod do i have to wipe dalvik data cache and format phone? I saw a vid on youtube where i have to do all of that. do i really? or just data and cache?
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If you do all the passages you will have more chances to have a full working device
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If it's your first rom, or if you're flashing an entirely new rom, do a full wipe. Otherwise, you can get away with just wiping cache and dalvik.
100% correct
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If you do all the passages you will have more chances to have a full working device
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ya iv had it happen to me a few times and to wipe all of them is usually the way to go, you can use titanium backup if you just want to keep your app just if you've upgraded to a new rom like going to jb from ics then do a restore and uncheck all system settings you only want your apps and their data back, if it forces closes just reboot in recovery and wipe the delvik cache and it should fix it up
Do i just download the new version and flash over the existing? Would that wipe my apps out to where i would have to download them again? Thanks
king750 said:
Do i just download the new version and flash over the existing? Would that wipe my apps out to where i would have to download them again? Thanks
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It's always recommended to wipe before flashing, but dirty-flashing shouldn't wipe out your apps.
You have two options though.
You can use titanium backup to backup all of your apps and data and do a clean wipe and restore them.
Or you can make a backup using TWRP/CWM and try dirty-flashing the new version. If anything goes array then just revert back to the old build and do option 1.
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fadac said:
It's always recommended to wipe before flashing, but dirty-flashing shouldn't wipe out your apps.
You have two options though.
You can use titanium backup to backup all of your apps and data and do a clean wipe and restore them.
Or you can make a backup using TWRP/CWM and try dirty-flashing the new version. If anything goes array then just revert back to the old build and do option 1.
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I wiped everything and flashed. Thanks
It's always best to do a full wipe. Less issues /bugs that way especially when going to a new build. 4.1.1 to 4.1.2. There were a lot of changes.
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