So now that Verizon has extended upgrading from 20 months to 24 months in contracts that expire Jan 2014 or later...
Does that constitute a change in contract which would enable me to quit without early termination fees?
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Edit: This was in a Droid Life article:
According to VZW, upgrade eligibility changes do not represent a change to the customer agreement terms or conditions, so this is not going to be something to get you out of a contract.
Edit: This was in a Droid Life article:
According to VZW, upgrade eligibility changes do not represent a change to the customer agreement terms or conditions, so this is not going to be something to get you out of a contract.
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PS that's bogus by Vzw
Here's the information
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/...pgrade-cycles-changing-to-24-months-and-more/
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Anyone experienced this?
I was looking to upgrade my "Even More Minutes" Plan (that was started late 2010) to a higher tier version of the plan (needed extra minutes since I went dangerously close last time), but I learned that they actually completely discontinued non-contract Post-Pay plans. I got grandfathered in, but once I leave this plan, I can't go back. I CAN convert to a *contracted* Post-Pay plan, but nothing along the lines of what I have now.
I verified with a guy I've made good relations with at the local T-Mobile store and a customer representative on the phone that this was the case.
Has anyone recently had luck going to a post-pay plan or did T-Mobile eliminate them all? Granted, the contracted post-pay plan that they're offering offers unlimited minutes (though the data is tiered and is actually less than what I have now), I still find it kinda crappy that they're no longer offering flexible options for different types of customers.
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Hi all, this is my first post here. I'm relatively tech-savvy but mobile development isn't my forte. Anyway, I've tried many search strings on the site but I haven't found a directly relevant answer.
Essentially the issue is I have a grandfathered service plan from approximately 2004 where I'm getting data for $5/month. I was using a lame HTC Touch Pro until it shattered. Unfortunately, to purchase a new smartphone (figuratively anything that isn't a flip phone), I would need to enter into a new contract on their exponentially more expensive terms. Additionally, I'm going to get nailed with all kinds of new bull**** fees (a 4G fee when it has barely been developed in NYC). Obviously I'm hoping for a more cost-effective approach.
Furthermore, I saw someone briefly mention in another thread that the OP could just buy a phone outright. I'm wondering if purchasing a phone unlocked and then somehow activating it on Sprint's network or some other hack would be possible. Price is a significant constraint; it's not feasible for me to drop $750 on an unlocked smartphone, so it's preferable if I can find some kind of workaround that's subsidized.
Thanks for reading through this, hope you can lend some advice on the optimal solution.
Sprint won't accept unlocked phones. I don't think there is a such thing as a unlocked cdma phone.
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So towards the end of June I was planning on leaving Sprint and heading over to At&t with the girlfriend. I had a plan with my brother to swap lines, his being off contract, allowing him to continue using my GSII and having me leave Sprint without any ETF worry. However now it seems that my brother is backing out of the whole idea which is leaving me at a whopping $300 ETF that doesn’t look too pretty.
I figure by selling the SII I am still looking at a big chunk just to get out of Sprint and buying a new phone until I realized something. I noticed that the difference between smartphones and basic phones half the ETF fee, $150 in my case. So what if I were to downgrade my plan with a basic phone, pay the ETF, sell the SII for around $200, and have some left over to put into the new phone. It all just seems too good to be true and I might just be overlooking something just in the thought of a somewhat loophole but what do you guys think? Could it be that easy? Should I read the terms and conditions instead of writing a thread out of shear excitement?
What do you think?
Generally speaking, it is much harder to downgrade than it is to upgrade. When you entered the contract for the smartphone you agreed to pay for service for a full two years in return for a subsidized phone. Legally they can (and odds are they will) tell you to either keep the phone & plan or pay the etf.
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If your rooted get roam control.
They will drop you after a while.
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So, I am looking to find a good, but reasonably priced android phone for my sister before she goes overseas.. T-mobile USA has the galaxy s 2 for free today... Could she get it, pay a months service, then pay the 200 dollar etf and keep the phone? I couldn't find anything that says otherwise.
Yes you could, that is what the ETF is for, however it will probably be much higher than 200, more like 375 ish. You would also have to wait until 31 or 32 days into the contract. 31 or 30 days or less and you can return for phone without paying an ETF (I would expect them to pressure you to do this instead of paying the ETF however after that initial month you are good)
The ETF will slowly go down as you progress through the contract. You will also need to get the phone unlocked, and since T-Mobile doesn't use standard 3G Bands you will only receive 2G speeds for internet I think almost everywhere else in the world. (don't exactly quote me on that, i'm not positive whether or not there are more companies who use the non-standard bands in other parts of the world)
You may be better off buying a used AT&T Galaxy S 2 and using it. (AT&T samsung codes are also cheaper than T-Mobile Samsung codes to unlock the phones.
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Sorry about that!
Reading through the t-mobile terms, their initial etf seems to be 200 for all devices. And it seems that the returns period is 14 days. Also, the t-mobile galaxy s II (sgh-t989) seems to have a radio capable with all the umts bands, while att's is only compatible with their umts bands. I was just wondering if they'd have some crazy subsidy rule for advanced devices.
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You may be better off buying a used AT&T Galaxy S 2 and using it. (AT&T samsung codes are also cheaper than T-Mobile Samsung codes to unlock the phones.
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You don't need to buy anything. Its free. But if u wanna pay be my guest.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.sgs2simunlockcode
Please contact me if anyone has decided to move away from the grandfathered unlimited data plan IE switch to the new UDP and would be willing to transfer me their old grandfathered plan. It's real easy to transfer it and I'm only looking for one for myself (Unless Verizon has changed those rules also?)
That is the plan that I was on since 2012 but recently lost it. End of July my baby Sisters's Stage 3 breast cancer traveled to her brain and spine...passing away September 18th at age 39. I ended up having to take care of her full time during that time and wasn't able to work. My account was suspended on September 22nd for non payment. On November 4th, six weeks after being suspended, I paid the balance, IN FULL, that was owed on the account. I was then informed that there was no way to restore services under that plan, not even my phone number. I was PISSED! (If there is any doubt about any of this I have no problem providing proof to substantiate it.) I went through a similar situation back in 2013 when I lost my job and after more then three months they were able to restore it within minutes otherwise it would have been a much higher priority to me.
I would be extremely grateful and sincerely thankful if anyone might be able to help me out with this.
(I sincerely apologize if this post is in the wrong area or is in violation. I have read the forum rules at https://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 and also scanned the list of forums closely.)