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Battery Life Complaints?

I was just wondering why there are so many complaints about the battery life on the s3...right now I'm on aosp pure Google and with 18 hours on the battery for the day I'm at 87%...This is pretty average with most of the aosp Roms I have used...I turn of WiFi and 4g unless I'm using them and I have a few battery tweaks in my init.d and build.prop that are on just about every site that is android related and are pretty easy to apply... If .7 % per hour is really something to complain about then get a junky flip phone...you should be able to get like 3 days out of that...battery drain is going to happen when you basically have a handheld laptop with the power and capabilities the s3 has...Just sayin

jamesd1085 said:
I was just wondering why there are so many complaints about the battery life on the s3...right now I'm on aosp pure Google and with 18 hours on the battery for the day I'm at 87%...This is pretty average with most of the aosp Roms I have used...I turn of WiFi and 4g unless I'm using them and I have a few battery tweaks in my init.d and build.prop that are on just about every site that is android related and are pretty easy to apply... If .7 % per hour is really something to complain about then get a junky flip phone...you should be able to get like 3 days out of that...battery drain is going to happen when you basically have a handheld laptop with the power and capabilities the s3 has...Just sayin
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A lot of people here are considered in the 'heavy usage' category, which the stock battery drains quickly. For me, I could drain the battery in 5-6 hours easily. And fyi the time the phone is on matters very little, it's all about screen on time. With my extended battery I get 8-10 hours of SCREEN ON which is the most important aspect, glad the stock battery works okay for your usage, everyone is different.
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AndrewH05 said:
A lot of people here are considered in the 'heavy usage' category, which the stock battery drains quickly. For me, I could drain the battery in 5-6 hours easily. And fyi the time the phone is on matters very little, it's all about screen on time. With my extended battery I get 8-10 hours of SCREEN ON which is the most important aspect, glad the stock battery works okay for your usage, everyone is different.
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Geeez...what are you doing to kill an extended battery like that? I get that much while playing games and using my browser...i am also over clocked at 2106mhz...i wonder if there a lot of these going out with bad batteries...i see more complaints from people getting drain with screen off than on

jamesd1085 said:
Geeez...what are you doing to kill an extended battery like that? I get that much while playing games and using my browser...i am also over clocked at 2106mhz...i wonder if there a lot of these going out with bad batteries...i see more complaints from people getting drain with screen off than on
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Unfortunately I believe you're confusing uptime with the amount of time the screen is on, I can guarantee you do not get 8-10 hours of the screen being on in a single charge with the stock battery, even at the lowest brightness setting. Post screen shots of those two screens when you get that much, I'd love to see it! That was only my 3rd cycle with the 4400 mAh battery, it's even better now, I just haven't taken any new screen shots.
Oh, and my brightness was at 50-75% that day.
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I hit 10 hrs screen time with my 4400mah battery
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I get amazing battery life, anywhere from 2-4 days, depending on the on-screen time. which is around 2-5 hours.
stock battery, CleanROM 5.5.1

andybones said:
I get amazing battery life, anywhere from 2-4 days, depending on the on-screen time. which is around 2-5 hours.
stock battery, CleanROM 5.5.1
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Same here! On CM10.1 I average 2-4 days, with normal usage. Very happy here!
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Expected SOT

Hi,
recently I bought N5 and I am very pleased with it. I could say that I love it. But I am worried about my battery. When I was buying it, the dealer at my carrier store, was hiding the box when opening it from me. I think that the box was not sealed any more ( i dont know if it is only in my country but here it's usuall that when buying a new phone they cut the sticker on the box infront of you). When I called at my store they said that they had only one more. And I am worried that the phone was used befor me for showcasing in the store. My battery usually lasts for two days ( I also have N7 so when on university i use N7 for heavy work) but barely get 3 hours of SOT. Wifi and 4G mostly off and brightness at minimum or max at 30% if on sun. Assistant of, gps of, ART on, using snapdragon BatteryGuru. I would really like to know what SOT should I get with this settings. And if you guys think I should go for warranty and hope that they replace my battery. Is there any way of seeing if the phone was already factory reset? Also I saw guys getting 5-6 hours SOT with wifi on here on XDA. Don't get me wrong I love the standby time but when using it (FB, twitter, messaging, browsing Chrome, 2 mail syncing) the battery drains like F1 car drains gas. If this is somewhere answered close the thread and point me there . Thank you
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screen on time is totally dependent on personal usage.
the best thing to do would be to root it and install 'better battery stats'. then you can analyze your battery properly. feel free to let this run for a full discharge and then post your screenshots

Yeah the problem with SOT is purely personal and that is why I posted here to see what you guys think. But still it is interesting to see how different the time can be from user to user. Will post screenshots in the evening.
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BombasMirko said:
using snapdragon BatteryGuru
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remove this. It doesn't help and if anything, it makes it worse

The battery drains whether the screen is on or off. If you're getting two days of use with 3 hours sot I would say that's ok. You might get 5 hours if you drained the battery in a day. Does that make sense? It does in my head!
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Ok so I removed Battery guru. And here are my stats from today (this was not my normal day of using it). Through the day the screen was almost constantly at the same level of brightness. And a lot of wifi and even 4g usage. But my battery could be draining a bit faster too because of not that good cellular coverage.
As pepdavies said with my normal use probably I would get closer to 4 hours if I would draind a battery in a day. .
Can I aske one more question? If I charge my phone over night and phone is off, will it overcharge my battery the same way as it would if it was on?

BombasMirko said:
Ok so I removed Battery guru. And here are my stats from today (this was not my normal day of using it). Through the day the screen was almost constantly at the same level of brightness. And a lot of wifi and even 4g usage. But my battery could be draining a bit faster too because of not that good cellular coverage.
As pepdavies said with my normal use probably I would get closer to 4 hours if I would draind a battery in a day. .
Can I aske one more question? If I charge my phone over night and phone is off, will it overcharge my battery the same way as it would if it was on?
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ive always charged my android devices overnight while they are on, nothing bad comes from it. you will be fine. i do it on my nexus 5 every night, yet still see at least 5 hours sot every battery cycle(5+ hours sot because i use lte exclusively, it gives better battery life than 3g/2g).

BombasMirko said:
... If I charge my phone over night and phone is off, will it overcharge my battery the same way as it would if it was on?
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You can leave the phone plugged in 24/7/365, on or off, and it will never overcharge, whatever that may mean. Nor will it overheat, slow down, melt, or explode.

I got 7 hours of screen on time by having the screen on a low brightness but that is only practical in a dark environment. I've also disabled a lot of google stuff and uninstalled google+ which was destroying 20% of the battery regularly. Generally 5 hours of screen on time using lux to lower brightness levels but to a point where the screen still looks nice

4 hours sot is typical for stock
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i dont really see how anyone can enjoy using there phone at minimum brightness unless its in a dark room i keep mine at 25% and it looks damn good using a tweaked gamma profile. Regarding battery i average 4.30 hours screen on time and 23 hours total with wifi only mostly web browsing and as said already there will be no harm in charging your phone overnight when i wake up its at 100% and battery temp is at around 24c

PhilipTD said:
You can leave the phone plugged in 24/7/365, on or off, and it will never overcharge, whatever that may mean. Nor will it overheat, slow down, melt, or explode.
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you are right that it will never overcharge, it is not optimal to keep your device with a full charge of battery for an extended period of time. by extended period of time i mean 5+ days
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fedor12 said:
i dont really see how anyone can enjoy using there phone at minimum brightness unless its in a dark room i keep mine at 25% and it looks damn good using a tweaked gamma profile. Regarding battery i average 4.30 hours screen on time and 23 hours total with wifi only mostly web browsing and as said already there will be no harm in charging your phone overnight when i wake up its at 100% and battery temp is at around 24c
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there are many people in this world and we all have our own likes and dislikes.
when im outside I enjoy being outside and do not use my device except to check a notification or two. so when im inside and in an average lit room, I can drop the brightness to about 15% and that is enough for me. remember, lighting the screen is the phone's biggest battery hog. any decrease to this will increase your SoT. I enjoy getting an extra 2 hours out of my device before i have to be tied to a power cord
that said, im waiting for my zerolemon battery case to ship and can't wait

Terrible Battery Life

I don't know how everyone else is getting 3-5 hours of on screen time. When my screen is on, I lose about 1 percent every 2 minutes it seems like. When I look at the app usage, the kernel and media are sucking the life out of the battery. I am really discouraged about this battery because my G2 would easily get 3.5+ hours of on screen time. So far, I am going to be lucky to get about an hour.

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I don't know how everyone else is getting 3-5 hours of on screen time. When my screen is on, I lose about 1 percent every 2 minutes it seems like. When I look at the app usage, the kernel and media are sucking the life out of the battery. I am really discouraged about this battery because my G2 would easily get 3.5+ hours of on screen time. So far, I am going to be lucky to get about an hour.
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Something is wrong with ur phone or u have some jacked up apps. I have got over 6 hours screen time with this phone and got over 5 with my DNA. You need to download GSAM or BEtter battery stats.

ocman40 said:
Something is wrong with ur phone or u have some jacked up apps. I have got over 6 hours screen time with this phone and got over 5 with my DNA. You need to download GSAM or BEtter battery stats.
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I have Gsam installed but sometimes it doesn't accurately record on screen time as it resets to 0. Also, today I unplugged my phone and the phone was thinking that the charger was still connected. As I said, Gsam reports that the Kernel is taking battery power.

steelersmb said:
I have Gsam installed but sometimes it doesn't accurately record on screen time as it resets to 0. Also, today I unplugged my phone and the phone was thinking that the charger was still connected. As I said, Gsam reports that the Kernel is taking battery power.
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Something is way wrong with your phone then.

Mine has terrible battery life
I am very much on the same page with you. I am on my 4th cycle.
Mine only last 14 hours with 3 hours of screen time. I don't understand how all these people are getting 5 to 6 hours of screen time.
I have both Better Battery Stat and GSam monitor and it shows Kernel is taking 50% and system is taking 6.2%

Just try with different kernals,good kernals would give exellent battery life

I would gladly take the battery problems to get rid of this brand new beast. It's too Frickin big.. I had g2 but sold it. Paid 700 for this att note 3...lol. straight talk on att towers to save on bills. But this thing may be the fastest latest greatest next to the new releases of '14 but I should have kept the g2...This is a tank. I'd swap for smaller phone in heartbeat. Might post cl ad
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brightssingh said:
Just try with different kernals,good kernals would give exellent battery life
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...really...try a different kernel...on the Verizon HTC One M8...

brightssingh said:
Just try with different kernals,good kernals would give exellent battery life
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Are you in the right forum? This makes no sense.

I think it highly depends on what you're doing when screen is on. If you're playing games or using a lot of data, it can drain very quickly. If you're watching local videos or something, your battery would last a lot longer.

Im a beginner, xda said i must have 10 posts to do anything on xda so i was filling my posts..sorry friend....now i got 10 posts so im playing with n9005 rom section now

if you are rooted, install better battery stats (free on xda from the dev) to see the culprit.
clearly something is keeping the phone awake and hogging the cpu

So far today with only 10 minutes of screen on time and 45 minutes of playing a podcast through Bluetooth in my car the battery is down to 92%. This podcast was already downloaded and just playing from Dogcatcher. When I left I rebooted the phone right after pulling it off the charger. The phone is rooted and all Verizon apps are disabled. I see the android system at 40% and Google Services at 15% usage. Yesterday with only about 2 hours of screen on time I was down to 18% after 10 hours off the charger. I do not see any one app drawing power, it is always the android system it seems.
Edit: Using BetterbatteryStats I noticed that my phone has basically been awake the entire time it has been off the charger. Out of 2.5 hours it was in deep sleep for 10 minutes.

I don't get great battery life either. Nor do I get good game performance. Battery has went down 9% in less than 2 hours of idle. Just downloaded gsam the kernel use is the highest at 26+ percentage
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Turning off Location Reporting made a HUGE difference to my battery life. I accidentally left my phone laying in bed next to me last night instead of plugged in, and it dropped maybe 5% over 6 hours.

sfreemanoh said:
Turning off Location Reporting made a HUGE difference to my battery life. I accidentally left my phone laying in bed next to me last night instead of plugged in, and it dropped maybe 5% over 6 hours.
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I will try disabling location reporting. But I know with my Galaxy S3 I had this enabled and did not have battery issues.

I turned off location reporting and location history and am seeing better battery life today. 5hrs 47 min and 89% battery left.

My battery is confusing me. First 2 days.. 15hrs 3hrs screen on time.. 3 days after that 24+hrs with 5hrs screen on time... The past couple of days I'm back down to 14-15hrs with 1-3hrs screen on time. This is running it down to 10%
My usage isn't much different from day to day.
Power saving is now enabled and I turned off location settings. Let's see...
M8, nuff said.

What I do not understand is why my old GS3 and my co-workers HTC One M7 with location services on, do not have this battery drain problem. This should not be an issue.

Yeah, it seems to be an on and off issue. On my GNex sometimes after flashing a ROM I had to turn location reporting off to get through the day, and then after the next ROM flash I didn't.

No ActiveDisplay + Xposed-MobileRadioBugFix + No Adaptive Brightness = Immortal Moto

I'm getting FANTASTIC battery life! I'm at 63% right now, after close to 12 hours of total time (with 1.5 hours SOT), with an estimated 20 hours left. Standby time is the key here, when I am not using the Moto...the battery just stops in time. It's wild.
I will have to say with the following...
Active Display Disabled < Not necessary
Adaptive Brightness Disabled < around 10% to 15% brightness is honestly totally fine for outdoor use. It's crazy. I use 1% to 5% at night.
Xposed Module: MobileRadioBugFix < Most important!
My Moto X is now immortal.
GSam Battery Monitor is showing on average 2.0% to 3.0% loss per hour when I am using the phone.
While SOT does slowly kill it, standby time is just crazy now. When I lock the screen, it's almost like the battery gets frozen in time.
For anyone who is struggling to get through a day, try these stuff out!

Men, I don't need to fool with it. 20 hours a day before plugging it in is fine for my needs.
Stock out of the box after a week of power cycles.
-Funk

thefunks67 said:
Men, I don't need to fool with it. 20 hours a day before plugging it in is fine for my needs.
Stock out of the box after a week of power cycles.
-Funk
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Oh but she can do so much more. I'm impressed, 3,000mah with 1440p had me worried...but Motorola has buckled the F down and did a great job!

Agreed Moto did a good job with the battery.
-Funk

I usually get 6+ hours of SOT
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This is terrifying. Coming from a oneplus one where I was used to getting 6 hours sot over 18 hours. I switched to a oneplus 2 and have only been getting 3 hours sot over the course of a day, thinking that's terrible. Sounds like the Moto x Pure isn't for me, which is a shame because I really do love the Moto features and way it feels in the hand.

dam i didnt wana root but xposed is great so far my battery is lasting me day, i will be on my 3rd power cycle today lets see how it goes....

Locklear308 said:
[*]Xposed Module: MobileRadioBugFix < Most important!
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You know that module doesn't actually cause a change in battery life? It simple adjusts the calculation of battery drain due to mobile radio. It will not, in any way, cause your battery to last longer.

mandrsn1 said:
You know that module doesn't actually cause a change in battery life? It simple adjusts the calculation of battery drain due to mobile radio. It will not, in any way, cause your battery to last longer.
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I was told the Radio gets stuck on in LP, and that is a huge waste of battery. Either way...I don't know what to tell you but the phone is just immortal now lol

I couldn't imagine looking at my phone for 6 hours in a day!!! It seems a little much. I would respect the ability for my phone to stay on that much but I can't see the necessity.

Locklear308 said:
I was told the Radio gets stuck on in LP, and that is a huge waste of battery. Either way...I don't know what to tell you but the phone is just immortal now lol
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The tabulation of what was being measured as battery use got stuck counting battery use as being caused by the mobile radio. this module just affects how battery stats are counted.

We shouldn't have to root to get great battery life. Just disable Moto Display, keep brightness low, and control when apps like Facebook sync. Android M will definitely bring improvements.
Not to mention, 6+ hours SOT is ridiculous. Put down your damn phone.

Smokeey said:
We shouldn't have to root to get great battery life. Just disable Moto Display, keep brightness low, and control when apps like Facebook sync. Android M will definitely bring improvements.
Not to mention, 6+ hours SOT is ridiculous. Put down your damn phone.
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With my OPO and Kitkat at my last job I used to pull 7 to 8 hours of SOT a time.
Not ridiculous at all... if you send roughly 500 texts a day, watch a lot of youtube, play a lot of music and browse the web a lot.
Also, rooting = Taking control of your device.
If you want the best, don't be lazy, take it into your own hands.

mandrsn1 said:
The tabulation of what was being measured as battery use got stuck counting battery use as being caused by the mobile radio. this module just affects how battery stats are counted.
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I remember reading an entire article about how it was killing batteries and that Marshmellow was the answer to it and blah blah blah. lol, either way. I'm not changing it cause it works. Magic? Who knows!

Locklear308 said:
With my OPO and Kitkat at my last job I used to pull 7 to 8 hours of SOT a time.
Not ridiculous at all... if you send roughly 500 texts a day, watch a lot of youtube, play a lot of music and browse the web a lot.
Also, rooting = Taking control of your device.
If you want the best, don't be lazy, take it into your own hands.
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If you have the time/freedom/opportunity to do all of that, you have the time to slap a charger on it

Bootup said:
If you have the time/freedom/opportunity to do all of that, you have the time to slap a charger on it
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And ruin the non-replaceable battery? No thanks. Plus I don't want to be tethered to a wall, that's dumb. It's 2015, not 2000

The entire process of unlocking, throwing recovery+flashing super su takes less than 10 minutes. Did the entire thing on the can.
+ Greenify is the best battery saver ever. I'll never not root because of that.
Having said that. the DOZE feature in Android M is pretty slick. My Nexus 6 went from 2h SOT to 4.5 SOT on the last developer preview So hey, maybe that'll make everyone happier

YoungSkeezy said:
The entire process of unlocking, throwing recovery+flashing super su takes less than 10 minutes. Did the entire thing on the can.
+ Greenify is the best battery saver ever. I'll never not root because of that.
Having said that. the DOZE feature in Android M is pretty slick. My Nexus 6 went from 2h SOT to 4.5 SOT on the last developer preview So hey, maybe that'll make everyone happier
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Well said bro.
I'm looking forward to Marshmellow...but I won't be able to use it till Xposed is ready. Too many things I need, stock too useless.

Thanks for the heads up on the xposed module, with that installed I can actually get through a day now. Screen on still drains but standby is awesome now!

Smokeey said:
We shouldn't have to root to get great battery life. Just disable Moto Display, keep brightness low, and control when apps like Facebook sync. Android M will definitely bring improvements.
Not to mention, 6+ hours SOT is ridiculous. Put down your damn phone.
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For my oneplus one, 4 to 5 hours of SOT by the time you go to sleep, wake up the next day and have another 3 to 4 hours SOT = 8 hours sot. THEN I charge the phone.
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Very happy with SOT/battery life!

I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!

Really? I mean performance is good but a lot of us here have crap SOT. Mine barely makes 2 hours of SOT, which is pretty low.

Which rom and what's the theme?

randalgibbons said:
I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
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How are you managing 5-6 hours screen on time on mobile data and what are you doing? Nobody gets that without some serious tweaking and the screen brightness basically off... 5 hours of continuous use on WiFi maybe, maybe, but not on mobile data.

randalgibbons said:
I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
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You may be the only owner of this device to ever actually type this out. I mean, battery life is fine, but if it was actually GREAT, it could have been one of the better Android devices ever made. Without it, I like the phone. And nothing more.

acejavelin said:
How are you managing 5-6 hours screen on time on mobile data and what are you doing? Nobody gets that without some serious tweaking and the screen brightness basically off... 5 hours of continuous use on WiFi maybe, maybe, but not on mobile data.
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Its all true. I put this phone through a lot too. I've themed
every app and every icon. It seems like I'm constantly
changing something. I reboot between 5 and 10 times a
day also. I used to tweak it but I've found simple is better.
I haven't made any changes to the build.prop and the gov
settings are basic (attached). Here are some pics to show
some of my work.

tycho.98 said:
Which rom and what's the theme?
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See above.

I've NEVER had a SOT of over 3 hours lol

aakashverma0007 said:
I've NEVER had a SOT of over 3 hours lol
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Hmm... I average 3h 26m but my max isn't quite 4h, and that's average over 3 months.

acejavelin said:
Hmm... I average 3h 26m but my max isn't quite 4h, and that's average over 3 months.
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I never noticed that "average" feature on GSM, but upon looking at mine, I am averaging 2:31. Yikes! I use xposed, Ambient display, and some other screen things like f.lux though. Not sure how to quantify the difference.
But to the OPs point about rebooting 10 times a day..I sometimes lose 7-8% of battery when I reboot so this is even harder to believe.
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Its all true. I put this phone through a lot too. I've themed
every app and every icon. It seems like I'm constantly
changing something. I reboot between 5 and 10 times a
day also. I used to tweak it but I've found simple is better.
I haven't made any changes to the build.prop and the gov
settings are basic (attached). Here are some pics to show
some of my work.
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I'm going to try the CPU settings you have and see if it makes any difference for me.

Haven't had the device that long but I'm around 7 hrs SOT. No problems hitting 6 hrs.
Non-rooted, basic setup, sync on, data on all the time though I'm in a terrible area for T-Mobile so I've set it to 3g lately..... Most battery lost browsing the web. No WiFi.
Since I don't get a lot of notifications, or spend a lot of time on the phone or have social apps = good battery life.
I've got over 9 hrs SOT with my LG optimus g pro rooted and locked down. Easy 7.5 on that phone no matter what.
Got 9 hrs using my neighbour's Moto G4 Plus.

Charles7 said:
Haven't had the device that long but I'm around 7 hrs SOT. No problems hitting 6 hrs.
Non-rooted, basic setup, sync on, data on all the time though I'm in a terrible area for T-Mobile so I've set it to 3g lately..... Most battery lost browsing the web. No WiFi.
Since I don't get a lot of notifications, or spend a lot of time on the phone or have social apps = good battery life.
I've got over 9 hrs SOT with my LG optimus g pro rooted and locked down. Easy 7.5 on that phone no matter what.
Got 9 hrs using my neighbour's Moto G4 Plus.
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There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509

Always over 5 hours sot but it's not enough, I had a LG g2 and could get 7+ sot but that was only a 1080p screen, if Moto had chosen a 1080p amoled screen this phone would of been unbeatable.

Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. . .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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And yet....At 48% left

I can honestly say 5+ hours SOT is possible. However, I achieved that with airplane mode on for a few hours and was reading a Kindle book with about 35% brightness, white text on black background. This requires little processing power and minimal touch interaction. On a regular day 3-4 hours is norm and this is checking emails, reading forums and news, reading some on Kindle, and about half of a day on 3g (not LTE). I don't get many emails, texts, or calls, so notifications are at a minimal (I have Moto display on). I also use Google now to track weather, traffic, packages, etc and have both Google and Moto voice off (just can't justify it when the mic button is just a tap). I just cannot see the SOT time you are claiming, especially if you are not rooted and heavily tweaked. I'm happy with my set up though and would not cripple my phone in the name of battery life.

Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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I'm wondering if we should be considering the quality of the batteries being put into our devices. Look what got past the QC inspectors at Samsung's manufacturer. Makes me wonder how well they control their processes and how low a level of quality are they willing to ship out their door. Hmm...

Charles7 said:
And yet....At 48% left
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How? I can only get 2:30 of screen, if I use it a lot, 3h...

Screen brightness is the key... The display panel is what takes most of the battery, if you turn off auto brightness and turn the brightness down to near zero you will get much higher more battery life.
The real problem with this device isn't the battery, it's the display panel (in regards to battery life).

Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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My N6P is currently in the "shop", I got the dreaded boot loop of death. While I wait for it to come back, I've been enjoying the MXPE, excellent phone. I just wanted to add my comment to the N6P getting 6 hours of SOT. I bought it new in Dec. 15 from Google and the very very best SOT is around 3.5 hours. I'm a medium user I would say; email, messaging, web, some social media. I've tried most of the N6P roms and kernels and maybe with Franko's kernel I eked out a bit more, but never got more then 4 hours and that was rare. I generally have my display turned way down, turn off notifications except for messaging, phone, greenify. Nougat was better then MM, but not much.
So far the battery on the MXPE is pretty on par with the 6P for me.

The OP of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3249458
does pretty much exactly what I've always done, and the battery life is within 30 minutes of mine, I'm currently not rooted and can't disable as many continuously running background apps.
I've always cringed when I would read reviews and people on here about SOT whenever I was considering buying a device. But each person's way of using the device is unique -- one bad app can kill SOT, even using chrome as your main browser will put a big dent in it.
I would say, other than data being on always instead of on WiFi, I use my device like I've always used a pc or tablet.....
If I was only getting 3 hrs SOT I would only look at devices I could get an extended battery case for OR I would be tied to an outlet.
Nonetheless, 6+ hrs SOT is possible for this device -- regardless of what anyone wants to *believe* is possible