Worry about early batch - Galaxy S 4 General

Hello
I am seriously considering getting the S4 for delivery on launch.
When i got my HTC One X, it was about a week after launch. The phone had 2 screen bugs (yellow spots and flickering). Even my replacement phone had this problem. Are Samsung known for early batches of new handsets to have these errors?
This is the only thing stopping me from early terminating my contract and going to Three (UK)

oxfordmark said:
Hello
I am seriously considering getting the S4 for delivery on launch.
When i got my HTC One X, it was about a week after launch. The phone had 2 screen bugs (yellow spots and flickering). Even my replacement phone had this problem. Are Samsung known for early batches of new handsets to have these errors?
This is the only thing stopping me from early terminating my contract and going to Three (UK)
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I got my SII on the day it was released nearly 2 yrs ago and it worked fine then and it still does to this day. However every phone released uses different hardware so past releases aren't good to go on.
I would get one and if it is genuinely faulty you can get it replaced. If you are worried then hold off and see if any concerns come up on the forums before buying. Also when getting a replacement phone, many people take it back to the same place they bought it and probably get given another phone from the same batch. If possible try a different store, you never know it might be a different batch.

__NBH__ said:
I got my SII on the day it was released nearly 2 yrs ago and it worked fine then and it still does to this day. However every phone released uses different hardware so past releases aren't good to go on.
I would get one and if it is genuinely faulty you can get it replaced. If you are worried then hold off and see if any concerns come up on the forums before buying. Also when getting a replacement phone, many people take it back to the same place they bought it and probably get given another phone from the same batch. If possible try a different store, you never know it might be a different batch.
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Thanks for your reply, i am unsure as to whether it was just HTC being rubbish, their support team were very secretive about the problem. As it was only a small amount of handsets they didnt seem bothered about fixing it.

HTC being rubbish is definitely a factor . I've bought three Samsung's at release and never had a single issue with handset .
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allmine1976 said:
HTC being rubbish is definitely a factor . I've bought three Samsung's at release and never had a single issue with handset .
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oxfordmark said:
Hello
I am seriously considering getting the S4 for delivery on launch.
When i got my HTC One X, it was about a week after launch. The phone had 2 screen bugs (yellow spots and flickering). Even my replacement phone had this problem. Are Samsung known for early batches of new handsets to have these errors?
This is the only thing stopping me from early terminating my contract and going to Three (UK)
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I'd wait a few months and see how many issues people are having.
Maybe wait until it drops down $50 since thats the point where a good number of units have already been in peoples hands.
I never liked being the first person to have something from a cost and reliability perspective.
Some of the higher end car audio gear is known for having issues in the first few production runs and i've learned from that it's wise to be cautious with brand new electronics.

Well its all about luck, there isnt any much difference between ist and 2nd batch. When s3 came, some said the blue one has back cover problem but it wasnt like this.
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I got the s3 on launch and it was perfect. I maaaay or may not have bricked it/it died on me but they straight replaced it on warranty no questions asked even with cm10 installed.
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Bought two S3s the week they were released and both have been perfect ever since.
But past events don't mean for sure the GS4 will be without problems. Also, comparing any launch with the HTC One X...that was probably the worst phone launch in terms of hardware problems that I've ever seen, so ANYTHING is going to be better than that :laugh:

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Why would you get a thank for this post ? How is it helpful in anyway that requires a thankyou ?
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Why would you get a thank for this post ? How is it helpful in anyway that requires a thankyou ?
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He is highlighting the irony of someone slating HTC however they are posting on Xda from a HTC One..... You know, I might use a thanks as it made me laugh.
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I know what he was referring to as this is my forth and last HTC one so the irony isn't lost on me . I instructed somebody in HTC one forum a couple of weeks ago on how to change his set up and it was quite a detailed message , did I get a thanks ? Nope . Yet there are a lot of thanks going around these days for not a lot .
To be honest I'm not even sure why I'm moaning , I must be just that bored I guess .
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Bought the T-mobile s2, the S3 I-9300 and the note 2 all on release day and never had any QC issues.
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Mostly everyone has a credit card now a days. just make sure you use a premium credit card that will double your manufacturer's warranty. As simple as that.
But if you don't have a premium credit card (not hard to get) then you're out of luck I guess.

Given the issues HTC is having with the One, its no surprise their QC is not holding up. Apple has issues with initial launches and their phones. So far I have not had any issues with the Samsung first batches of phones, they are building 10 million a month of these puppies for global launch unlike Apple who delays launches into different markets.

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He is highlighting the irony of someone slating HTC however they are posting on Xda from a HTC One..... You know, I might use a thanks as it made me laugh.
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there is nothing funny about that. I prefer getting negative opinions from someone who actually own an HTC than a clueless Samsung fanboy.

SlimJ87D said:
Mostly everyone has a credit card now a days. just make sure you use a premium credit card that will double your manufacturer's warranty. As simple as that.
But if you don't have a premium credit card (not hard to get) then you're out of luck I guess.
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No it doesn't. Why would you think that?
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I bought my SGS2 a month after release and it never had any issues. But my SGS3 bought 1 month after release also had a faulty display (black spots), SDS and some small errors in the hyperglaze on the backcover. Many SGS3 early buyers also had problem with the cracking "metal" bezel.
I think Samsungs QA is taking a hit because of the popularity of the Galaxy phones. I normally never had any issues with their phones unlike HTC which I always had issues with.

I took the plunge and have pre ordered the S4 on Three
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Trentors said:
No it doesn't. Why would you think that?
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I bought my SGS2 a month after release and it never had any issues. But my SGS3 bought 1 month after release also had a faulty display (black spots), SDS and some small errors in the hyperglaze on the backcover. Many SGS3 early buyers also had problem with the cracking "metal" bezel.
I think Samsungs QA is taking a hit because of the popularity of the Galaxy phones. I normally never had any issues with their phones unlike HTC which I always had issues with.
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Because my visa cash rewards bank of america card doubles the warranty on anything I by? Look into it next time. Don't just blindly respond to something you don't know. A lot of credit cards come with perks and benefits. Roadside assistance, buyers protection, double a warranty to up to a year, etc.

Samsung's phones may generationally look the same which doesn't make everyone happy but there's an advantage. Building the SGS4 isn't much different than building the SGS3 and the N2 that preceded it. There was the occasional bezel not aligned or the home buttons being different heights on those phones but nothing really major. Variances in color temperature of the display is an "AMOLED thing" so I'd expect that to continue to some degree. But when you consider how many devices Samsung sells versus the number of QC complaints it’s pretty amazing they come out of the shoot as well built as they do.
Here's how Samsung started down the QC road and their general outlook...
In 1995, Chairman Lee was dismayed to learn that cell phones he gave as New Year’s gifts were found to be inoperable. He directed underlings to assemble a pile of 150,000 devices in a field outside the Gumi factory. More than 2,000 staff members gathered around the pile. Then it was set on fire. When the flames died down, bulldozers razed whatever was remaining. “If you continue to make poor-quality products like these,” Lee Keon Hyok recalls the chairman saying, “I’ll come back and do the same thing.”
The lesson stuck. In May 2012, three weeks before the new Galaxy S III was to be shipped, a Samsung customer told the company that the back covers for the smartphone looked cheaper than the demo models shown to clients earlier. “He was right,” says DJ Lee, the marketing chief of Samsung Mobile. “The grain wasn’t as fine on the later models.” There were 100,000 covers in the warehouse with the inferior design, as well as shipments of the assembled devices waiting at airports. This time, there would be no bonfire—all 100,000 covers, as well as those on the units at the airports, were scrapped and replaced.​
Great story on the "Samsung way"...
http://www.businessweek.com/printer...g-became-the-worlds-no-dot-1-smartphone-maker

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MT4GS to go EOL in may

sauce: http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/new-...t-shows-htc-amaze-4g-end-of-life-as-may-2012/
pretty sad to see a phone reach EOL in less than a year.
this makes the probability of an official ICS update even slimmer
The HTC Amaze, Sensation 4G, and Doubleshot have been EOL for a while. I guess we just have a set date.
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Its because there going to try to push the new phones of this year.
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Any idea what the next Tmobile phone with a keyboard will be? I dont see anything coming out yet to replace it.
Kaczman said:
Any idea what the next Tmobile phone with a keyboard will be? I dont see anything coming out yet to replace it.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/hands-on-video-with-t-mobiles-next-qwerty-mytouch-device-from-huawei/
another low tier phone
Kaczman said:
Any idea what the next Tmobile phone with a keyboard will be? I dont see anything coming out yet to replace it.
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A new mytouch by Huawei with a nicer keyboard...
marc12868 said:
A new mytouch by Huawei with a nicer keyboard...
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*sigh* I don't know why t mobile insists on dogging the mytouch line. The mt3g was high end for its time, same with the mt4g and mt4gs. Now its like they've dropped them down to bottom of the barrel phones. Hate to say it, but I have seriously been considering the gs2.
AndroidBotx said:
I say go for it. But honestly wait til the SGS 3 comes out in may. Its gonna be a quadcore beast.
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The only real reason I have not is because of money. Those phones ain't cheap, and unless I have a real need for that phone (which I don't), its not really worth it to me to spend it. Also, my contract is up on father's day, so I will probably get a nice upgrade for cheap then. I can wait.
dung8604 said:
The only real reason I have not is because of money. Those phones ain't cheap, and unless I have a real need for that phone (which I don't), its not really worth it to me to spend it. Also, my contract is up on father's day, so I will probably get a nice upgrade for cheap then. I can wait.
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My upgrade is around the same time. If the GS III launch is anything like the GS II, it'll hit the states months after the rest of the world. I may buy a Galaxy Note and flash the radio that works with T-Mobile to tide me over until the GS III or something else comes along. Then I will have two awesome phones.
2G1J said:
My upgrade is around the same time. If the GS III launch is anything like the GS II, it'll hit the states months after the rest of the world. I may buy a Galaxy Note and flash the radio that works with T-Mobile to tide me over until the GS III or something else comes along. Then I will have two awesome phones.
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The release might actually be delayed - but Samsung is doing a simultaneous launch with 70+ countries or something like that I think. .
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Last what I heard of it was that Samsung plans to release the GS3 right before the London Olympics in July so they can promote the hell out of it during the Olympics
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piscesjoey said:
Last what I heard of it was that Samsung plans to release the GS3 right before the London Olympics in July so they can promote the hell out of it during the Olympics
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As long as it is out before father's day! Hopefully t mobile has a promo like they did last year, where every smart phone was free on father's day. Hopefully lol.
The SG3 wont have a keyboard will it?
Anyone have links to the next keyboard phone?
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The SG3 wont have a keyboard will it?
Anyone have links to the next keyboard phone?
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Nope, sadly keyboard phones are dying out. At least the ones with highend specs. Somebody linked to the next MyTouch earlier in this thread.
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TMOBILE
I Will never buy any T mobile branded phone ever again.Not even their service I will use again.I urge fellow people who have bought cell phones from them; example mytouch 4g slide,amaze 4g and a host of others not to purchase any phones from them in the future,After reading and seeing the end of life article of most of these cellphones,I am deeply disturbed at this trend from T-mobile.My hard earned cash is totally disrespected as purchased this cellphone at no contract price.This is the second time this has happened in less than two years from T-mobile.Totally despicable in my books !
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I Will never buy any T mobile branded phone ever again.Not even their service I will use again.I urge fellow people who have bought cell phones from them; example mytouch 4g slide,amaze 4g and a host of others not to purchase any phones from them in the future,After reading and seeing the end of life article of most of these cellphones,I am deeply disturbed at this trend from T-mobile.My hard earned cash is totally disrespected as purchased this cellphone at no contract price.This is the second time this has happened in less than two years from T-mobile.Totally despicable in my books !
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Same hete im valueplan n i paid 500 dollars
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Scondrel said:
I Will never buy any T mobile branded phone ever again.Not even their service I will use again.I urge fellow people who have bought cell phones from them; example mytouch 4g slide,amaze 4g and a host of others not to purchase any phones from them in the future,After reading and seeing the end of life article of most of these cellphones,I am deeply disturbed at this trend from T-mobile.My hard earned cash is totally disrespected as purchased this cellphone at no contract price.This is the second time this has happened in less than two years from T-mobile.Totally despicable in my books !
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good for you. I am used to it... I was with Virgin Mobile before I came to T-mo and if you think T-mo is bad. *shudder* At least T-mo releases updates... In the history of VM there has been 1 update. 1 and only 1. To a outdated phone to an outdated os... So I personally can live with having a phone have 0 updates or go to it's end of life... There is always dev support.
Also people complaining of lack of dev support... There are lots of devs here compared to a lot of other phones...
2G1J said:
Nope, sadly keyboard phones are dying out. At least the ones with highend specs. Somebody linked to the next MyTouch earlier in this thread.
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Yea I saw the specs on the new mytouch made by hanwei man 5 mp camera 720 recording ... yuck ... I think ill stay with my mt4gs ... I like it alot . So until the next big thing i doubt ill get rid of it
This thread needs to go EOL
1 thing I will give a plus to is the new myTouch has a 4" screen which is nice. But personally I would love the One S with a qwerty.
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[Q] The Best Bet Of My Life?

So two weeks ago, I got my Galaxy S3 And today I saw my friend for the first time in a few weeks. He got an iPhone 5 while I got my S3. So we talked about how each of our respective phones was better. We ended by me betting that my S3 will last longer than his iPhone 5 in terms of who will get updates the longest. Whoever won would pay the next upgrade...and I'm pretty sure that I won't have $200 to spare two years from now.
My main question is whether or not you think I made a pretty good bet or not. I hope I did Thoughts?
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So two weeks ago, I got my Galaxy S3 And today I saw my friend for the first time in a few weeks. He got an iPhone 5 while I got my S3. So we talked about how each of our respective phones was better. We ended by me betting that my S3 will last longer than his iPhone 5 in terms of who will get updates the longest. Whoever won would pay the next upgrade...and I'm pretty sure that I won't have $200 to spare two years from now.
My main question is whether or not you think I made a pretty good bet or not. I hope I did Thoughts?
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You realize this is not a Nexus, right?
I don't think that was a safe bet. The iphones have a great track record of getting updates compared to Samsungs and even androids in general, IMO.
I didn't mention officially or not lol
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You should probably think a bit more carefully about your finances if you can't have an extra 200 dollars in two years.
Good thing you'll have 6 months between when they cut you off from updates at around 18 months and the end of your contract at 24. It'll give you time to come up with 400 bucks. 200 for your next phone (min.) and 200 for his.
No matter how good devs are..... at the rate things change with Android, even if you get a port of whatever OS Android uses at the time, I bet it won't have all the features, have glitches due to hardware limitations or unavailable drivers for months.
May I suggest marry rich or perhaps a second job?
Your best shots are
A) Hope your friend doesn't know better that you are flashing ROMS
B) Don't be friends in 2 years, the time honored way of escaping serious long term bets
From prior experience most droid only get updated for about a year then start to fall off think you may have made a boo boo on this one
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Don't worry get the s4 and he went even know. After all he is an iphone user.
On a different Note is that all you two could come with? How long you would get updates?
Remember that the ancient iPhone 3g is still running the newest updates
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the most retarded bet ever imo...the ibone obviously will get more updates, refer to what heshmonster said. apple only has 5 devices to release updates for in 5yrs time. Android has hundreds...dont take this the wrong way but android devices are like disposable cameras, once the film runs out they are trash. that being said i still will never get a iphone!
he can always hope Samsung finally wins a lawsuit and all the iphones get banned!
He can also hope for world peace though, just sayin'
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the most retarded bet ever imo...the ibone obviously will get more updates, refer to what heshmonster said. apple only has 5 devices to release updates for in 5yrs time. Android has hundreds...dont take this the wrong way but android devices are like disposable cameras, once the film runs out they are trash. that being said i still will never get a iphone!
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Well, 6, but who's counting?
Ya you lost that bet. Might as well pay now. He was a smart cookie for taking that bet though.
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The bet seems too vague considering that both devices can be flashed with hacked up firmware.
On the one side, I kept my original Moto Droid from the day it launched to the day I got my SGS3 preorder in the mail.
This is while I watched many colleagues go through many iterations of the iphone, each time buying an entirely new device.
The original Moto Droid actually just got JellyBean, and I know the original iphone can not even kind of run iOS 4, much less iOS 6.
If anything the iphone is the disposable camera in this scenario. Ever try to get anything above iOS 3 on a second generation iPod touch and you will know what I mean.
Back on topic though, the bet will not have a clear winner in 2 years. Try 4 years and you will see which device has the most longevity.
Ta,
ALQI
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I can imagine in the heat of the moment, we like to think that products like ours (with a popular modding community behind it) gives it a longer life span since modders will typically add new features from other phones to this one.
Horrible bet.
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is ICS dead?

I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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RBarnett09 said:
I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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the only downfall with the dna in my opinion is that HTC makes it
now im not a htc hater, in fact they are the company that make me jump on the android ship, and ive loved them until I had the thunderbolt, rezound and incredible 4g
with the lack of updates from HTC im affraid to get the DNA, the best comparison is the droid razr and rezound; the razr has 4.1 ready to roll out in early Q1 2013 (there was an "accidental" ota update a few weeks back that gave a few hundred uses android 4.1, and motorola confirmed android 4.1 in early Q1) where the HTC rezound may get 4.1 but it will prolly be around june- and I honestly think thats on the early side.
but If HTC shows better upgrades ide jump over there to the DNA right now
Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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These are my thoughts exactly.
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Oh and on another note. Verizon is partially to blame for the lack of support and ics on this device. They keep stonewalling the update because I think they know we still have unlimited and they want us off of it. If they give us the update then it is unlikely we will upgrade anytime soon. You also can't forget that this phone was the first from Verizon that has the svdo capability which the source to that has been kept under lock and key for quite some time now. I think that Verizon is protecting that info because they may resurrect it later on. This and the rezound are the only two phones that are able to talk and surf even on 3g. The others that are able to do this use volte (voice over lte) which only works with 4g.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
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Probably going to be waiting awhile... There is a reason you don't see the nexus4 on Verizon
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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and it wont change. ever. they have moved away from customer support because they don't need to worry about happy customers if they already have them tied down for two years. and all those issues people have disappear when its time to upgrade and the consumer is happy again. then the cycle begins again
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thanks for the feedback everyone!
I know HTC isnt just to blame, BUT if you look at apple for instance (sorry for bringing them up) they can do what they want with their phones, and the carriers can pretty much shove it if they dont like it.
now my question is this, why can apple do what they want (ex no bloatware, and updates whenever they see fit) and android companies (HTC, LG, Samsung, And even Google with the case of a nexus) cant?
I left my Thunderbolt for a Galaxy Note II and I absolutely love it. It is the perfect size for me, and it still manages to sit comfortably in my pockets. The phone overall is excellent, but the two features that stand out are the stylus and the battery life.
I did not consider getting the DNA because it has an inferior screen (resolution aside,) and the battery life has been reported to be horrendous. I would say either the Note II or the GS3 are both very safe bets if you are looking to get a new phone.
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
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I have two phones with unlimited data on my plan and if I took the share everything plan I would end paying $40 more a month and get less data than I actually need. Plus I still wouldn't get one of those phone subsidies you're talking about since I'm not eligible for upgrade for a while so I would definitely pay full retail for a phone before I lost unlimited. Also there are plenty of phones I could buy used that are excellent for half the price of retail or better.
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wiredmonkey said:
Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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I'm leaning towards the S4 myself. I'm done with HTC. Got a Tab 2 and I absolutely love Samsung
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SlyG07 said:
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
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All vzw customers will eventually lose unlimited data. They won't let you keep it forever. Mark my words
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Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
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Just like other guy stated I would be paying more if I went on share everything plan I don't use a crazy amount of data but 13-20 GB a month is where I sit. I am hoping Google releases a phone every year like the upcoming xphone so I can buy it off the play store, if they are in stock that is. But I will hold onto my unlimited data as long as I can cause their share everything plan is a joke, $40 for a smart phone access fee equals $29.99+$9.99 which is what we were already paying to buy the unlimited or 2gb or 4gb all they did was slap a two cent raise and hoped no one would notice. I noticed jerks!!!!
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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That is true but how can we expect a company to push out an ota for a one year old device that probably 95% of the purchasers moved to a different device. We should all be happy that they got their crap together enough to give us this last one.
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Im so Happy

I got e-mail from ATT and it's aready been shipped out and I should get my device this week I cannot wait to get my hands on the device.......
Old but gold. I wish I was this lucky in Brazil.
mine's en route for friday.
Returned my HTC One (for various reasons) today. Bit irresponsible perhaps as refund for the One won't have gone through yet but what the hell.
Hoping Clove will deliver on time. Only potential regret is went for the frost white and having very minor buyer's remorse re: the 'mist
Just got a FedEx tracking number. The new toy will be delivered Thursday 4/25! Osssss-summmm!
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Just got a FedEx tracking number. The new toy will be delivered Thursday 4/25! Osssss-summmm!
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Very good, maybe you'll be the first one here to do a retail model unboxing video and show it off to all of us.
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mine's en route for friday.
Returned my HTC One (for various reasons) today. Bit irresponsible perhaps as refund for the One won't have gone through yet but what the hell.
Hoping Clove will deliver on time. Only potential regret is went for the frost white and having very minor buyer's remorse re: the 'mist
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What's wrong with the one!?!?!
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What's wrong with the one!?!?!
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Lovely looking phone, but serious build issues involving where the horizontal speaker grills meet the screen. A lot of them (both the ones I had and also the three ive seen in my local shops) seem to have this raised screen/sharp cutting edge issue in the top left.
Also there were some superficial things I didn't like - the large bezel, the slightly awkward capacitive layout etc etc.
Anyway excited about giving the s4 a go. Anythings gotta be better than my old 4s.
Wow thats too bad for HTC haha
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Just tried the HTC One and the build quality while it is amazing the phone has nothing particular making me hyped... The display is sharp but faded. Maybe I've been using amoleds too much? The phone isn't comfortable to hold for long periods of time because of its sharp edges and the demo was already scratched in the back...
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I got e-mail from ATT and it's aready been shipped out and I should get my device this week I cannot wait to get my hands on the device.......
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Post here.
Tons of thread already 1, 2, 3.
I see no reason to create another thread.
peaster3 said:
Just got a FedEx tracking number. The new toy will be delivered Thursday 4/25! Osssss-summmm!
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Same Here!!!!!:good:
duykhang524 said:
Just tried the HTC One and the build quality while it is amazing the phone has nothing particular making me hyped... The display is sharp but faded. Maybe I've been using amoleds too much? The phone isn't comfortable to hold for long periods of time because of its sharp edges and the demo was already scratched in the back...
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When I went in to pre-order my S4 I played with the HTC One display unit there, they had only had it out for a day or two...and the back was super scratched up it looked like someone used it without a case for a few years. The iPhone 5 demos there didn't look anywhere near that bad so I'm not sure what's up with their aluminum.
However I thought the screen looked great and I really loved the feel of the phone in my hands with that curved back. I'm hoping I get that premium feel with the S4 too.
(I actually switched from the HTC One X to the Galaxy S3 and maybe was one of the few, but I honestly liked the feel of the S3 more)
To stay on track: Got my email at 9:13 am. Phone has shipped and I'll be getting it on 4/25!
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous

S4 on sale at att(preowned)

The s4 is currently on sale at att online only for 29.99. The lady on the phone gave me an early upgrade+free overnight for it. http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung/galaxy-s-4-16gb-black-mist-refurb.html
If you cancel early, might be a good way to get a S4 somewhat cheap. Nothing will beat the 50% glitch that happened last month though.
Its refurb though meh :/ I know theyre perfectly fine...but just the thought of refurb...idk it sketches me out lol
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mg2195 said:
Its refurb though meh :/ I know theyre perfectly fine...but just the thought of refurb...idk it sketches me out lol
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I have a refurb one in black no issues at all it's like if i bought it new and they do look brand new as well been on it for a week and a half and no issues whats so ever very stable stock to bad it came with MF3 on it already, but it's worth buying it!
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I have a refurb one in black no issues at all it's like if i bought it new and they do look brand new as well been on it for a week and a half and no issues whats so ever very stable stock to bad it came with MF3 on it already!
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Yeah I know they are fine...and I really have nothing to worry about...its just an unjustified fear I have ahaha
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I just added a line and got one for my wife, I'll sell her S3 and use that money to buy out her first line. Total money spent $30, S3 will sell for $200, buying out other line $82. Money leftover for case, screen protector and activation fee...$85ish. Money well spent. Thanks OP! Btw I think I got the last one lol, says out of stock now that I placed my order..oops!
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Just ordered one last night. Getting in Friday. Excitedddddddd. Now I have a note 2 to sell and I'm going to cancel my line after one month. Sweeeet
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I just ordered one as well. I was really trying to see what kind of deposit I thought I'd have to pay. They've always asked me for one. I was surprised & they approved me this time. I even got an iPhone 4 w/ 8 Gig for .99 cents.
I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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Stfu
pham818 said:
Stfu
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Heh, no need to get your panties in a bunch. It's called an opinion. Learn to deal with it.
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I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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I also came from a nexus s... Mine was the sprint ns4g variant. Haven't looked back. It was a total night and day difference between the phones. My ns4g has been reduced to a bare bones cm7.1 mp3 player.
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nsnsmj said:
Heh, no need to get your panties in a bunch. It's called an opinion. Learn to deal with it.
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An opinion is one thing, but dont bad mouth the community. There are developers busting their asses working on roms for free, show some respect. Or better yet learn to do something yourself
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jamess0621 said:
An opinion is one thing, but dont bad mouth the community. There are developers busting their asses working on roms for free, show some respect. Or better yet learn to do something yourself
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I see, you seem to think I was talking about the community. I wasn't. I was badmouthing Samsung. In regards to the community, I was simply stating the current situation of things. The community support for this phone, in which there's not much going on, is a result of Samsung's and the carriers' doing.
I'm not sure how what I said could be misinterpreted to mean I'm bad-mouthing any entity other than Samsung. Calm down, read, and stop looking for something negative.
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I went and got it because of this deal. I really didn't want to upgrade yet, but my Nexus S is really starting to show its age (bless its heart). Custom ROMs can only take you so far with a device that old. I really don't want an S4 (hardware buttons including the ugly physical home button, front Samsung branding, little dev community support compared to my Nexus S), but the deal was too good to pass up. I guess I could sell this for $400-450 (maybe more?) by the time the next Nexus phone is out. Anyway, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can experience some of that 1080p Gotdamoled goodness. I may even keep it if the bootloader situation and community support gets better.
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Maybe if you sold it now...the s4s are going for 450-500 right now..mby the time the next exus comes out...prob gonna be 300-350 depending on condition...technology loses value fast...especially androids due to new and better devices constantly being released...keep that in mind
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mg2195 said:
Maybe if you sold it now...the s4s are going for 450-500 right now..mby the time the next exus comes out...prob gonna be 300-350 depending on condition...technology loses value fast...especially androids due to new and better devices constantly being released...keep that in mind
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Well the s3 gsm versions are still selling for $300 and up used. It should still hold its value at least until the s5 or whatever comes out.
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Maybe if you sold it now...the s4s are going for 450-500 right now..mby the time the next exus comes out...prob gonna be 300-350 depending on condition...technology loses value fast...especially androids due to new and better devices constantly being released...keep that in mind
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Just sold my skyrocket for $220 on eBay. I'd say that held value pretty well. Listing my wife's S3 today, that should sell for $250+, and I really only need it to sell for $200 in order for her S4 to be completely free including activation.
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Decepticaons said:
Just sold my skyrocket for $220 on eBay. I'd say that held value pretty well. Listing my wife's S3 today, that should sell for $250+, and I really only need it to sell for $200 in order for her S4 to be completely free including activation.
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$220 for your Skyrocket? That's good to know. ATT was willing to give $55 credit those cheap mofos.
My S4 is coming Monday but I'm not sure I can part w/ my Skyrocket
Locoman_ said:
$220 for your Skyrocket? That's good to know. ATT was willing to give $55 credit those cheap mofos.
My S4 is coming Monday but I'm not sure I can part w/ my Skyrocket
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Yup, but it did sell with 2 cases plus 2 extra batteries. But still, I didn't expect that much. It was hard for me to part with my skyrocket as well, but wifey said sell it or no S4 lol. Out of respect I agreed. I don't regret it, I love my S4. I also got offered $55, and I told them I could sell it as a paperweight for that price.
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My refurbished isn't MF3!
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