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Newbie questions before changing ROM on Desire S

Hello,
I have few questions to ask before changing my ROM. Many of these already should have an answer but it's better to ask for me, even if I've already searched the forum.
Data on SD Card: as far as I understand, flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the SD card data. Isn't it? In this case, old applications that have been moved to the SD card continue to stay there. Do you think it's the case to make a cleanup of those applications before flashing?
I've done a backup using ClockworkMod into the SD Card. I've read that somebody had problems restoring such a backup in case of necessity. Is this so risky? If I launch the backup restore through CWM, does it restore my previous ROM (the official one in my case) with all my previous settings without any problem?
SMS Backup: I think I can use an application like "SMS Backup & Restore" without any problem even the ROMs are different. Isn't it?
Contacts and Calendar appointments: I use Funambol to sync my contacts and appointments with. What I need once I've flashed the new ROM is simply to install Funambol on the device and start the synchronization? I guess the answer is yes of course, here.
Applications installed using the Android Market: what does it happen when I login with my gmail account? A massive install starts? My applications should be restored automatically without any risk to loose my application on the Android Market on the web? I hope this is true also for AppBrain.
I saw this is the last 3.5 Sense ROM. Is this stable and safe to flash?
May I select Italian language for the new flashed ROMs or they are only English?

fbcyborg said:
Hello,
I have few questions to ask before changing my ROM. Many of these already should have an answer but it's better to ask for me, even if I've already searched the forum.
Data on SD Card: as far as I understand, flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the SD card data. Isn't it? In this case, old applications that have been moved to the SD card continue to stay there. Do you think it's the case to make a cleanup of those applications before flashing?
I've done a backup using ClockworkMod into the SD Card. I've read that somebody had problems restoring such a backup in case of necessity. Is this so risky? If I launch the backup restore through CWM, does it restore my previous ROM (the official one in my case) with all my previous settings without any problem?
SMS Backup: I think I can use an application like "SMS Backup & Restore" without any problem even the ROMs are different. Isn't it?
Contacts and Calendar appointments: I use Funambol to sync my contacts and appointments with. What I need once I've flashed the new ROM is simply to install Funambol on the device and start the synchronization? I guess the answer is yes of course, here.
Applications installed using the Android Market: what does it happen when I login with my gmail account? A massive install starts? My applications should be restored automatically without any risk to loose my application on the Android Market on the web? I hope this is true also for AppBrain.
I saw this is the last 3.5 Sense ROM. Is this stable and safe to flash?
May I select Italian language for the new flashed ROMs or they are only English?
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If you flash a rom you sd card will not be touched.
you ll not need to reinstall all app,unless you don t format data.
Market downlods automatically all your previous downloaded apps
It s very annoying.
Your google account will sync your Contacts and calendar
Clockwork will restore your backup so it ll restore your previous rom
Sense 3.5 need hboot 2 to work propriely.
Virtuous is a good rom with sense for old hboot
All rom are universal instead of MIUI,you can choose any language.
If you have other question,you can pm me in italian
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fbcyborg said:
Hello,
I have few questions to ask before changing my ROM. Many of these already should have an answer but it's better to ask for me, even if I've already searched the forum.
Data on SD Card: as far as I understand, flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the SD card data. Isn't it? In this case, old applications that have been moved to the SD card continue to stay there. Do you think it's the case to make a cleanup of those applications before flashing?
I've done a backup using ClockworkMod into the SD Card. I've read that somebody had problems restoring such a backup in case of necessity. Is this so risky? If I launch the backup restore through CWM, does it restore my previous ROM (the official one in my case) with all my previous settings without any problem?
SMS Backup: I think I can use an application like "SMS Backup & Restore" without any problem even the ROMs are different. Isn't it?
Contacts and Calendar appointments: I use Funambol to sync my contacts and appointments with. What I need once I've flashed the new ROM is simply to install Funambol on the device and start the synchronization? I guess the answer is yes of course, here.
Applications installed using the Android Market: what does it happen when I login with my gmail account? A massive install starts? My applications should be restored automatically without any risk to loose my application on the Android Market on the web? I hope this is true also for AppBrain.
I saw this is the last 3.5 Sense ROM. Is this stable and safe to flash?
May I select Italian language for the new flashed ROMs or they are only English?
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1. Data on SD card will not be affected. However old apps on SD card will not be recognized any more. You can use Titanium to backup and then restore your apps.
2. In case of fail on ROM restore, you can use RUU to fallback to your official ROM. Just go to Settings\About phone\Software information to write down your ROM version so that you can find appropriate RUU later.
3. Yes, I think. Or you can use My Backup Pro to backup.
4. You can sync Contacts and Calendar to your Google account and restore them later.
5. If you add your Google account right after 1-st booting, the phone will do a massive install from the Market, and this could lead your phone to hang and may cause to fry an eMMC. Just let it boot as normal without adding Google account, and you can add later in the Settings/Account & Sync.
6 and 7. I have no idea.

Thank you very much guys!
kylon said:
you ll not need to reinstall all app,unless you don t format data.
Market downlods automatically all your previous downloaded apps
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vndnguyen said:
5. If you add your Google account right after 1-st booting, the phone will do a massive install from the Market, and this could lead your phone to hang and may cause to fry an eMMC. Just let it boot as normal without adding Google account, and you can add later in the Settings/Account & Sync.
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These two things make me confused. As far as kylon says and as far as I understand, if the /data directory wiping is not performed, I will automatically find all the application installed on the new ROM, but only as regard the applications on the NAND. Even this sounds me a little be strange but possible, so is this something that avoid me to reinstall all the applications using the Android Market as vndnguyen says at point 5?
kylon said:
Sense 3.5 need hboot 2 to work propriely.
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Do you suggest to install that hBoot after or before flashing the 3.5 Sense ROM?
Thanks a lot.

you should wipe all partition before installing new ROM, this is mandatory, so the only way you can restore your installed apps is via Titanium backup (for 3rd party apps or apps from unknown source) or Market (for apps from Google Market).

If u install a rom without wipe anything the rom will wipe only /system,so when you boot the rom all your apps will be there and the new system is installed
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So it seems there are two contrasting opinions here. Despite that I've seen that it is suggested to always wipe all partitions maybe I'll do.

kylon said:
If u install a rom without wipe anything the rom will wipe only /system,so when you boot the rom all your apps will be there and the new system is installed
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yes, but it is not recommended, if you don't want any unpredictable fault.
fbcyborg said:
So it seems there are two contrasting opinions here. Despite that I've seen that it is suggested to always wipe all partitions maybe I'll do.
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Plz follow a guide here:
Guide to Flash a Rom in a Perfect Way...
It is recommended that you wipe all partitions before flashing new ROM.

vndnguyen said:
yes, but it is not recommended, if you don't want any unpredictable fault.
Plz follow a guide here:
Guide to Flash a Rom in a Perfect Way...
It is recommended that you wipe all partitions before flashing new ROM.
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I didn t recommend anything.
I told him that in this case(without wipe) he ll not lose any app.
Anyway i do full wipe.
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OK, thank you. It is all clear now.
By the way. I've seen that ROMs like the Virtuous have the overclock.
I don't want the overclock damage my Desire S, so I would like to know what do you think about that and if it is recommended to install the patch mentioned in the "Important Notes" anyway.

I don t like overclock but sometimes can help
Personally i m using set cpu 998/192 smartass
I actived jit and other tweaks to improve performances so my phone is fast with a low cpu(teted 850mhz fully working)
I don t use any patch
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[Q] [Help][i9003] [Revolution rc5]

Hi, I installed the version 5, and 2 I have no music player, bluetooth does not work for me, I can not add or remove the startup screens, it is assumed I have 2 launcher, and only one is installed ... And this rom stable? Nose me that, please help..
I have a samsung scl galaxy (i9003), root access, deoxo, and installed the latest version of android revolution ..
thanks
With bluetooth I can not send or receive anything

heeeeeeelp please

Firstly, this belongs in the Q&A section, not in the dev area.
Addressing your problem:
Did you install this over another custom ROM?
Try to deodex again (using the flashable zip file method) and reinstall this ROM?
Take backups (Nandroid and TiB) before embarking on such ventures henceforth.
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thanks and sorry it did not place the subject well ..
I have proven with the original rom and everything works, I flashed, I hempezado from scratch and made ​​deodexado root and everything works, now I installed the rom and still not working .... : S
Take backups (Nandroid and TiB) Before embarking on ventures Such henceforth.?

ersamu831 said:
Take backups (Nandroid and TiB) Before embarking on ventures Such henceforth.?
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TiB = Titanium backup, basically same as a PC backup, backs up your userdata and applications, make sure, however, that you place the backup data either on your EXTERNAL SD card or save it on your pc, when you lose your data/flash a new rom, all you have to do is re-install titanium backup and restore the data and apps (although do NOT restore system apps, might cause problems)
Nandroid backup: have you flashed clockworkmod (Comes with CF-Root)?
when you go into recovery mode (either using button combo or using the CWM app you have in your drawer, you can make a backup of the whole system, including FW specific files etc, make this backup, save the data either on external sd or pc, and when u need it, restore using CWM recovery mode (for example when u want to go back from the custom rom to stock and dont feel like flashing - rooting - deodexing
these 2 backups save you a lot of trouble

ah ok, thanks for your help, I just do the bakcup from the recovery mode, it hize kph in the home version, clean, applications do not care much, I'm looking for some kind of custom rom pretty, I like the revoluion the keyboard rc5 gingerbread and val-notification and timing is very important, but vv bluetooth does not work, now cranium use 3.0, but the calendar has a circle in the current week horirible! help
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Thread has been moved to general. Please post questions in this section and not the development section
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[Q] ARHD 3.6.8 Restoring Apps

I've noticed that when I restore apps after upgrading from 3.6.x to higher versions. I would lose Daemon Controller and other apps that are included in the rom. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. This is usually how I upgrade:
1) Complete Backup using 4EXT Recovery
2) Superwipe
3) Install Rom
4) Install Add-Ons
5) Backup and Restore -> Advanced Backup -> Restore Data
This would restore all my apps and settings to the way it was before I upgraded. Would using Titanium Backup preserve the apps that are included in the rom? I would like to keep all my apps and settings as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

krandal said:
I've noticed that when I restore apps after upgrading from 3.6.x to higher versions. I would lose Daemon Controller and other apps that are included in the rom. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. This is usually how I upgrade:
1) Complete Backup using 4EXT Recovery
2) Superwipe
3) Install Rom
4) Install Add-Ons
5) Backup and Restore -> Advanced Backup -> Restore Data
This would restore all my apps and settings to the way it was before I upgraded. Would using Titanium Backup preserve the apps that are included in the rom? I would like to keep all my apps and settings as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
If you are simply going from 3.6.x to 3.6.8 ,there is no need for a super wipe,you only have to install the ROM.
All your data and settings will remain intact.
You will only lose any mods you have installed.
These can be re-installed after your first power down/power up.

krandal said:
1) Complete Backup using 4EXT Recovery
2) Superwipe
3) Install Rom
4) Install Add-Ons
5) Backup and Restore -> Advanced Backup -> Restore Data
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Make it like me
1) Complete Backup using 4EXT Recovery
2) Superwipe
3) Install Rom
4)Make a backup of Daemon Control with Titanium Backup
5) Install Add-Ons
6) Backup and Restore -> Advanced Backup -> Restore Data
7) Restore with Titanium Backup your Daemon Control
You restore with the methode all your apps or homescreens (lol homeworks :S !?)...
8) Have fun

@malybru: Thanks! I thought you always had to Superwipe or it was recommended. I'm just worried about going from 3.6.8 to 4.1.x. Can I use the same method of restoring making that jump or are the backups not compatible?
@StormUltimate: Thanks! That should work. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that lol.

krandal said:
@malybru: Thanks! I thought you always had to Superwipe or it was recommended. I'm just worried about going from 3.6.8 to 4.1.x. Can I use the same method of restoring making that jump or are the backups not compatible?
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Hi,
Super wipe WILL be necessary to go from 3.6.x to 4.1.x.
3.6.x is a 2.3.4 based Sense 3.0 ROM
4.1.x is a 2.3.5 based Sense 3.5 ROM
You only need to super wipe when you switch from one base to another.
Personally,I would not use CWM backups when changing bases.
Backup in Titanium Backup,and only restore user app data.
Absolutely never restore system data.

If I only restore user apps, does that mean I'll have to manually input the settings for all my system apps? Homescreen, Wi-Fi Settings, SMS, MMS, etc.

krandal said:
If I only restore user apps, does that mean I'll have to manually input the settings for all my system apps? Homescreen, Wi-Fi Settings, SMS, MMS, etc.
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Hi,
Why not try Go Sms Pro.
It's a free app from the market.
You can save those settings in TB.
As for wifi,homescreen etc. yes,you have to do those manually.
You only do this when you change bases.
+ it only takes ten minutes.

qesion about backup

I think I am idiot If I wait for htc ics update any more .
I want to change my original Rom to custom Rom but one concern.
I don want to loos my applications and my data .
what can I do ?
can I backup my all softwares in stock rom ?
I mean If I backup data in 2.3 rom can I use that in ICS ?
for instance gps software ,maps and places that I entered ?
second question is If I backup data in insertcoin rom can I use that in revolution rom ?
is the backup 100 percent reliable ?
thanks guys

1st question - My backup pro
2nd question - Yes

As jacks said yes, but in my case I'm using Titanium Backup to have all data from my apps saved.
You just have to go S-Off, SuperCID, Root, save all with Titatnium and start all process to flash ROM's (Firmware, Wipe, ROM, kernel...)
And btw, when I started on the ROM's world 1 week ago I tried InsertCoin, did a backup on it (Angry birds xD) and when I ported all to Revolution it worked perfectly So just quite similar case here!

thanks about repllys.
but what about ics.
can I backup android 2.2 sofwares and use it in ics ?

I guess you refer to sd card apps and data and not to system data.
In this case yes. Unless some appls may not be compatible with ICS.
Do not attempt to restore system data from GB to ICS as it will jam up your device.

bluelove2 said:
thanks about repllys.
but what about ics.
can I backup android 2.2 sofwares and use it in ics ?
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Clicking on THanks button it's enough
Btw, take care on the 2.2 backups... I supose you are talking about Titanium backup or so isn't it? As said before you should have problem with not compatible apps, but if they can update via Google Play properly you should not lose any important data
What apps do you mean exactly, or about which one are you worried about? Just to help better

[Q] CWM Recovery Question On SGH-I727

Hello, I have recently been able to install and make a backup of my SGH-I727 using CWM. I have also purchased Titanium backup and made application backups.
I have a few specific questions that I have not been able to find an answer to :
1) Will a CWM backup contain all the apps that are on the phone as well? Meaning, if I restore with a backup image I made, will the
unit be exactly as it was before the backup (i.e. home pages, apps, etc)?
2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then what is the use of Titanium backup/restore?
3) I saw on a YOUTUBE video a user "teaching" how to use CWM, before the RESTORE, he formatted the /cache, /data and /system partitions, then did the RESTORE. Is this needed? required? recommended? best practice?
4) I have gb 2.3.5 on the device now and it works fantastic. I would like to try ICS but before I go there, I want to make sure I have a way to get back to what I have now. Is a CWM backup all I need?
5) Will installing a stock Kernel (ICS AT&T in my case) get rid of CWM Recovery? Or will it be there when I want to go back to the backed up version?
6) Lastly, and maybe this one should not be in this thread but lets try : I am learning about Android, and I see references to the "modem/radio" files for each device. Will a CWM backup also backup the radio/modem code in case the ICS install does not go as planned?
Thank you!!

I think you need to do more reading. Many of these questions have been answered.
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1. Yes a cwm or twrp b/u will put all your apps back just like you never left.!
2. You use titanium when you flash a new rom because of course the new rom won't contain your apps.
3. I've done lots and lots of restores and never wiped first....but wouldn't hurt i guess.
4.yup.!
5.no the recovery remains untouched.
6.I don't think the radio gets backed up or restored. But it's not critical to the rom operation and can be reflashed when ever..

calderonr said:
Hello, I have recently been able to install and make a backup of my SGH-I727 using CWM. I have also purchased Titanium backup and made application backups.
I have a few specific questions that I have not been able to find an answer to :
1) Will a CWM backup contain all the apps that are on the phone as well? Meaning, if I restore with a backup image I made, will the
unit be exactly as it was before the backup (i.e. home pages, apps, etc)?
2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then what is the use of Titanium backup/restore?
3) I saw on a YOUTUBE video a user "teaching" how to use CWM, before the RESTORE, he formatted the /cache, /data and /system partitions, then did the RESTORE. Is this needed? required? recommended? best practice?
4) I have gb 2.3.5 on the device now and it works fantastic. I would like to try ICS but before I go there, I want to make sure I have a way to get back to what I have now. Is a CWM backup all I need?
5) Will installing a stock Kernel (ICS AT&T in my case) get rid of CWM Recovery? Or will it be there when I want to go back to the backed up version?
6) Lastly, and maybe this one should not be in this thread but lets try : I am learning about Android, and I see references to the "modem/radio" files for each device. Will a CWM backup also backup the radio/modem code in case the ICS install does not go as planned?
Thank you!!
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1. 99.9% back to what you had
2. if you install a new rom you can use titu to restore your apps and settings, 99.9% of apps should work, but some people like reinstalling thier apps fresh and not from backups
3. i wipe b4 i reinstall from backup, but dont wipe/format your sdcards, thats where all the backups of cwm and titu are, good practice is to backup your sdcards onto your computer, that reminds me, i need todo that
4. yes except for the radio
5. if you mean stock firmware , then yes custom recovery gone, you will get everything back to stock - recovery, kernel, rom, radio. if you mean just the kernel then no
6. no cwm/twrp do not backup or wipe the radio , you will still have what you had b4, but the ics stock firmware install you will get another radio and should be fine, worry about flashing the firmware correctly(do the wipes), radio is easy to flash/reflash with custom recovery(cwm/twrp)

vincom said:
1. 99.9% back to what you had
2. if you install a new rom you can use titu to restore your apps and settings, 99.9% of apps should work, but some people like reinstalling thier apps fresh and not from backups
3. i wipe b4 i reinstall from backup, but dont wipe/format your sdcards, thats where all the backups of cwm and titu are, good practice is to backup your sdcards onto your computer, that reminds me, i need todo that
4. yes except for the radio
5. if you mean stock firmware , then yes custom recovery gone, you will get everything back to stock - recovery, kernel, rom, radio. if you mean just the kernel then no
6. no cwm/twrp do not backup or wipe the radio , you will still have what you had b4, but the ics stock firmware install you will get another radio and should be fine, worry about flashing the firmware correctly(do the wipes), radio is easy to flash/reflash with custom recovery(cwm/twrp)
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Hi Vincom and all,
Thanks for the responses....Very useful and I think I am putting all the dots together now. Before I ask this let me say that I am a computer programmer as well but for IBM mainframe systems, so I am a technical person but the distributed computing world (Windows/Unix/Linux, etc) is not that familiar to me, therefore these follow up questions.
I am trying to understand the difference between FIRMWARE, and ROMS and Kernels.
1A) I gather firmware is the software that drives the hardware like device drivers..correct?
2A) I also gather that the Kernel is the version of the operating system. Correct?
3A) ROM is the one that is stomping me a bit...is that the UI version? Like Gnome in Linux?
When I look at my S2, in About Phone I see the following :
Baseband Version - I727UCKJ2
Kernel Version - 2.6.35.11
Build Number GINGERBREAD.UCKJ2
4A) Lastly, when I do a CWM backup, what am I backing up? The ROM and the Kernel? Does it also back up the firmware?
Anyway thanks to all for your input and help!...I love my Android device!

Hello there, To answer a few of your questions.
1.A. Typically Firmware is a patch or software update/version that affects what the hardware is supposed to do..Google definition-Permanent software programmed into a read-only memory.
2.A. Kernel - pretty good explanation of it...
3.A. Google definition - The Android ROM is the Android operating system. This is the User interface (Sense UI in HTC phones) and the file system for maintaining contacts etc. It is composed of a Linux kernel and various add-ons to achieve specific functionality.- I would define it as a user-developed version of android if we are talking about custom ROMs.
4.A. Yes when you back up it backs up everything except the radio.
To further explain why people might use TIBU and CWM/TWRP is because most people make a full nandroid (cwm backup) for safety / oops moments or just to try out a different rom. TIBU is usually used when users go from rom to rom and dont want to mess with playstore taking its sweet time to reinstall. (only restore app/app data. NEVER RESTORE SYS DATA unless on the same version of android. the sys files are always different rom to rom or version to version)
Baseband is the Radio, Just fyi there are several different versions of radios for our phone but they are typicall Version specific. ie: gb radios wouldnt work on JB
Not as a troll or flame but I am just curious why you are still using GB? My advice is just to install cm10 + gapps and look up installing cyandelta from the playstore.
I offer that as a suggestion because it will update your phone autonomously. also review the forums for which radios are best for cm (I'm still using uclf6 even though there are newer versions)