Newbie questions before changing ROM on Desire S - HTC Desire S

Hello,
I have few questions to ask before changing my ROM. Many of these already should have an answer but it's better to ask for me, even if I've already searched the forum.
Data on SD Card: as far as I understand, flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the SD card data. Isn't it? In this case, old applications that have been moved to the SD card continue to stay there. Do you think it's the case to make a cleanup of those applications before flashing?
I've done a backup using ClockworkMod into the SD Card. I've read that somebody had problems restoring such a backup in case of necessity. Is this so risky? If I launch the backup restore through CWM, does it restore my previous ROM (the official one in my case) with all my previous settings without any problem?
SMS Backup: I think I can use an application like "SMS Backup & Restore" without any problem even the ROMs are different. Isn't it?
Contacts and Calendar appointments: I use Funambol to sync my contacts and appointments with. What I need once I've flashed the new ROM is simply to install Funambol on the device and start the synchronization? I guess the answer is yes of course, here.
Applications installed using the Android Market: what does it happen when I login with my gmail account? A massive install starts? My applications should be restored automatically without any risk to loose my application on the Android Market on the web? I hope this is true also for AppBrain.
I saw this is the last 3.5 Sense ROM. Is this stable and safe to flash?
May I select Italian language for the new flashed ROMs or they are only English?

fbcyborg said:
Hello,
I have few questions to ask before changing my ROM. Many of these already should have an answer but it's better to ask for me, even if I've already searched the forum.
Data on SD Card: as far as I understand, flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the SD card data. Isn't it? In this case, old applications that have been moved to the SD card continue to stay there. Do you think it's the case to make a cleanup of those applications before flashing?
I've done a backup using ClockworkMod into the SD Card. I've read that somebody had problems restoring such a backup in case of necessity. Is this so risky? If I launch the backup restore through CWM, does it restore my previous ROM (the official one in my case) with all my previous settings without any problem?
SMS Backup: I think I can use an application like "SMS Backup & Restore" without any problem even the ROMs are different. Isn't it?
Contacts and Calendar appointments: I use Funambol to sync my contacts and appointments with. What I need once I've flashed the new ROM is simply to install Funambol on the device and start the synchronization? I guess the answer is yes of course, here.
Applications installed using the Android Market: what does it happen when I login with my gmail account? A massive install starts? My applications should be restored automatically without any risk to loose my application on the Android Market on the web? I hope this is true also for AppBrain.
I saw this is the last 3.5 Sense ROM. Is this stable and safe to flash?
May I select Italian language for the new flashed ROMs or they are only English?
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If you flash a rom you sd card will not be touched.
you ll not need to reinstall all app,unless you don t format data.
Market downlods automatically all your previous downloaded apps
It s very annoying.
Your google account will sync your Contacts and calendar
Clockwork will restore your backup so it ll restore your previous rom
Sense 3.5 need hboot 2 to work propriely.
Virtuous is a good rom with sense for old hboot
All rom are universal instead of MIUI,you can choose any language.
If you have other question,you can pm me in italian
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fbcyborg said:
Hello,
I have few questions to ask before changing my ROM. Many of these already should have an answer but it's better to ask for me, even if I've already searched the forum.
Data on SD Card: as far as I understand, flashing a new ROM doesn't affect the SD card data. Isn't it? In this case, old applications that have been moved to the SD card continue to stay there. Do you think it's the case to make a cleanup of those applications before flashing?
I've done a backup using ClockworkMod into the SD Card. I've read that somebody had problems restoring such a backup in case of necessity. Is this so risky? If I launch the backup restore through CWM, does it restore my previous ROM (the official one in my case) with all my previous settings without any problem?
SMS Backup: I think I can use an application like "SMS Backup & Restore" without any problem even the ROMs are different. Isn't it?
Contacts and Calendar appointments: I use Funambol to sync my contacts and appointments with. What I need once I've flashed the new ROM is simply to install Funambol on the device and start the synchronization? I guess the answer is yes of course, here.
Applications installed using the Android Market: what does it happen when I login with my gmail account? A massive install starts? My applications should be restored automatically without any risk to loose my application on the Android Market on the web? I hope this is true also for AppBrain.
I saw this is the last 3.5 Sense ROM. Is this stable and safe to flash?
May I select Italian language for the new flashed ROMs or they are only English?
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1. Data on SD card will not be affected. However old apps on SD card will not be recognized any more. You can use Titanium to backup and then restore your apps.
2. In case of fail on ROM restore, you can use RUU to fallback to your official ROM. Just go to Settings\About phone\Software information to write down your ROM version so that you can find appropriate RUU later.
3. Yes, I think. Or you can use My Backup Pro to backup.
4. You can sync Contacts and Calendar to your Google account and restore them later.
5. If you add your Google account right after 1-st booting, the phone will do a massive install from the Market, and this could lead your phone to hang and may cause to fry an eMMC. Just let it boot as normal without adding Google account, and you can add later in the Settings/Account & Sync.
6 and 7. I have no idea.

Thank you very much guys!
kylon said:
you ll not need to reinstall all app,unless you don t format data.
Market downlods automatically all your previous downloaded apps
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vndnguyen said:
5. If you add your Google account right after 1-st booting, the phone will do a massive install from the Market, and this could lead your phone to hang and may cause to fry an eMMC. Just let it boot as normal without adding Google account, and you can add later in the Settings/Account & Sync.
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These two things make me confused. As far as kylon says and as far as I understand, if the /data directory wiping is not performed, I will automatically find all the application installed on the new ROM, but only as regard the applications on the NAND. Even this sounds me a little be strange but possible, so is this something that avoid me to reinstall all the applications using the Android Market as vndnguyen says at point 5?
kylon said:
Sense 3.5 need hboot 2 to work propriely.
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Do you suggest to install that hBoot after or before flashing the 3.5 Sense ROM?
Thanks a lot.

you should wipe all partition before installing new ROM, this is mandatory, so the only way you can restore your installed apps is via Titanium backup (for 3rd party apps or apps from unknown source) or Market (for apps from Google Market).

If u install a rom without wipe anything the rom will wipe only /system,so when you boot the rom all your apps will be there and the new system is installed
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So it seems there are two contrasting opinions here. Despite that I've seen that it is suggested to always wipe all partitions maybe I'll do.

kylon said:
If u install a rom without wipe anything the rom will wipe only /system,so when you boot the rom all your apps will be there and the new system is installed
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yes, but it is not recommended, if you don't want any unpredictable fault.
fbcyborg said:
So it seems there are two contrasting opinions here. Despite that I've seen that it is suggested to always wipe all partitions maybe I'll do.
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Plz follow a guide here:
Guide to Flash a Rom in a Perfect Way...
It is recommended that you wipe all partitions before flashing new ROM.

vndnguyen said:
yes, but it is not recommended, if you don't want any unpredictable fault.
Plz follow a guide here:
Guide to Flash a Rom in a Perfect Way...
It is recommended that you wipe all partitions before flashing new ROM.
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I didn t recommend anything.
I told him that in this case(without wipe) he ll not lose any app.
Anyway i do full wipe.
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OK, thank you. It is all clear now.
By the way. I've seen that ROMs like the Virtuous have the overclock.
I don't want the overclock damage my Desire S, so I would like to know what do you think about that and if it is recommended to install the patch mentioned in the "Important Notes" anyway.

I don t like overclock but sometimes can help
Personally i m using set cpu 998/192 smartass
I actived jit and other tweaks to improve performances so my phone is fast with a low cpu(teted 850mhz fully working)
I don t use any patch
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[Q] I have a couple of important questions

I'm new to this whole rooting thing and I just rooted my G2 last night because I wanted to do more, now I have a couple of questions.
1. How can I use a different ROM and bring all my current apps, data, contacts etc. to that rom?
2. Which folders are unnecessary on my phone?
3. Should I delete all the rooting materials after I'm finished?
I'm still using the stock OS with setcpu overclocked but I want to test a new ROM. Somehelp help me :/
I would first create a NANDROID backup of your current ROM using ClockWorkMod Recovery. Then I would download Titanium Backup (Pro) and create a backup of your USER apps/data only. It's not safe to try to restore system apps/data after flashing a different ROM. But user apps/data can be easily restored via TB after you flash your custom ROM. Contacts are synced up with Google, so you don't need to worry about them... they'll return as soon as you sign in with your Google account.
When you say folders on your phone, do you mean on your SD card? That's really up to you.
In terms of ROMs, I'm loving CyanogenMod v7.1.0. But ROMs are all personal preference. If you need more help with any of these things, there are awesome guides all over XDA. Good luck.
gkenga said:
3. Should I delete all the rooting materials after I'm finished?
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Definitely not on this one. If you happen to screw up your system and have to reinstall your ROM, you have it still on your SD card. ROMS generally only take up about 50-300MB on your card and if you have a large card, it shouldn't be an issue unless you download every ROM known to man.
But for some reason, every time I reboot PyroMod it bootloops me for what I don't know -____-
Im using TastyGinger on my G2.. Tried a few roms from eclair to gb and most of the time I need to reinstall my apps.. i tried using TB to bacup my apps.. but when i tried and restore after flashing new roms, tb gave me an error.. so i decided to hv this perception everytime i wanna flash a new rom, i must start from scratch..
gkenga said:
I'm new to this whole rooting thing and I just rooted my G2 last night because I wanted to do more, now I have a couple of questions.
1. How can I use a different ROM and bring all my current apps, data, contacts etc. to that rom?
2. Which folders are unnecessary on my phone?
3. Should I delete all the rooting materials after I'm finished?
I'm still using the stock OS with setcpu overclocked but I want to test a new ROM. Somehelp help me :/
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1.Just back up all your current application and system data with titanium backup, then restore after u flash that rom. its doesnt matter how many time u change rom coz data that u backup in -titanium backup folder- untouch. for contact i recommend u save to google. 3.its up to you man.
Thanks man, I'll be sure to avoid that

New Nexus S - Should i wait ?

Hello
Just got my new Google Nexus S : )
I wanted to know if It would be better to wait till google releases the new ICS 4.0 Andriod and get it updated and then go with New Roms
or
Should i install a new ROM now for better speed and stability ?
If yes, which ROM should i start off with as i am a total beginner with Rooting/Flashing etc.
I dont mind waiting till 4.0 Android is released...
Any suggestions ?
Putting ROMs on it now doesn't exclude you from putting ICS on it later. Go have fun with it and try out different ROMS. When ICS comes out, you can put that on it too. No restrictions !!
But wouldnt rooting the device bar me from updating to ICS officially from Google ?
Yes but there will be ICS ROMs released here that you can install
Stock Android is actually pretty good and very stable. But if you want to toy around, just go ahead and have fun with the great ROMs we have available now.
Greetz
U can also flash back to stock when ics comes out and update officially and reroot and your good
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Heck I had my phone rooted and trying new roms the day I got it and I just got mine Monday when I seen that best buy had them free.
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Is this a good tutorial on rooting Nexus S ?
www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=EA6DlAqYUeo
Can i follow it to root my phone or should i follow some other guide ?
That is the one I used...how ever I would suggest getting a 5.0.2.0 recovery image as the one in the file that goes with that video is an older version...it will still work though.
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djwyman said:
That is the one I used...how ever I would suggest getting a 5.0.2.0 recovery image as the one in the file that goes with that video is an older version...it will still work though.
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Where will i get the 5.0.2.0 recovery image from ?
djwyman said:
That is the one I used...how ever I would suggest getting a 5.0.2.0 recovery image as the one in the file that goes with that video is an older version...it will still work though.
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Which ROM or Kernel did you try out ?
How about using Rom Manager by ClockworkMod?
Which program to use for backing up Data (contacts, messages etc) before Rooting the device ?
off topic, but since you asked about backing up contacts im sure this could help. Go to your contacts, and choose the option to back them all up to SD card. After that, choose to delete all your contacts from your phone, then restore the backup from SD, but choose to restore them as gmail contacts instead of to your phone. This way when you sync your gmail account your contacts will just repopulate. Very handy when flashing new roms ect
fromthestars said:
off topic, but since you asked about backing up contacts im sure this could help. Go to your contacts, and choose the option to back them all up to SD card. After that, choose to delete all your contacts from your phone, then restore the backup from SD, but choose to restore them as gmail contacts instead of to your phone. This way when you sync your gmail account your contacts will just repopulate. Very handy when flashing new roms ect
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i backed up my contacts, but i dont see any option for deleting all my contacts.
Menu
Settings
Applications
Manager Applications
Contacts
Clear Data
This will clear all contacts.
fromthestars said:
Menu
Settings
Applications
Manager Applications
Contacts
Clear Data
This will clear all contacts.
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When i import "IMport from USB Storage", it does not ask me to import as Gmail Contacts.
How do i do that ?
For me,
I will import my contacts in gmail (via browser in pc) so i can manage easily,edit,create group, etc..
and finally sync it all to phone.
That was i done when i use android for the first time.
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How about use Titanium Backup root program for backing up ?
Ibn Saeed said:
How about use Titanium Backup root program for backing up ?
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You need root to using Titanium backup and ussually its use to backup apps. I never use it to backup contacts.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
I think for my 1st ever ROM, ill go with Bugless Beast.
Still have to find a program to backup all my contacts, messages etc. for Stock Nexus S.
Can anyone suggest any ?
My backup pro can back all that stuff up.
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Prevent phone to auto-install after new ROM

Hey folks,
today I decied to move back from CyanogenMod to Stock rom.
So I backed everything up and installed the PreRooted Stock ROM.
Now, the phone wants to download and install every app I ever downloaded.
But I wanted to decide for myself wich Apps I want to install and wich not.
Is there any way of preventing this behaviour?
Thank you,
horst2k.
when setting up google account, there are backup setting in the final step.
just untick that. hope will help.
budingyun said:
when setting up google account, there are backup setting in the final step.
just untick that. hope will help.
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Thats the solution. I thought, this option will backup my data in the future. Thanks a lot!
You can change the settings in settings - privacy. You can check backup this device, will work for new rom installed, just un tick restore. Before you add google account.
Alternately just don't enter google account, simply install titanium backup (save the apk or you'll find that some custom ROM s have it pre installed just for this reason) and use that to restore your titanium backup of ask your apps.
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Hmn, for me it doesn't work to untick the box, it also download all the apps. Really annoying especially when on data connection as I use all my "fast" mb's
I cancel them as fast as I can^^
When setting up new ROM don't switch on mobile data
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
Can confirm that disabling the backup on the initial setup is not always working (noticed on several ROMs so far)

[Q] Partially Restore CWM backup?

Hey Guys!
So I've been around the place for a while, usually passive. I rooted my phone a few months back, and left it at that coz i was too scared of bricking my new phone . But now getting tired of waiting for the official ICS (Not the buggy leak) has got me thinking of getting a custom Rom (cant decide between Victory or Romulus).
I've just installed CMW, and my phones backing up as we speak. My question is this, is it possible to restore a partial backup? Im hoping that once i get the custom rom up and running, i can restore my contacts, texts and apps onto my new rom. I know titanium backup can restore apps but i assume all that is gone once i format before installing the rom, right?
Thanks guys any help appreciated!
fire_fist_ace said:
Hey Guys!
So I've been around the place for a while, usually passive. I rooted my phone a few months back, and left it at that coz i was too scared of bricking my new phone . But now getting tired of waiting for the official ICS (Not the buggy leak) has got me thinking of getting a custom Rom (cant decide between Victory or Romulus).
I've just installed CMW, and my phones backing up as we speak. My question is this, is it possible to restore a partial backup? Im hoping that once i get the custom rom up and running, i can restore my contacts, texts and apps onto my new rom. I know titanium backup can restore apps but i assume all that is gone once i format before installing the rom, right?
Thanks guys any help appreciated!
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When you install any new ROM, you (usually) need to perform a full wipe through CWM including: wipe user data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik, then flash. Now, that will delete ALL of your stuff, contacts, texts, apps, etc. However, if you have access to WiFi, when your ROM flash has completed, you will be prompted to re-enter your Google account and, at which time, your contacts will re-populate (give it some time). Though, be sure you sync with Google's servers prior to your flash, so that any new contacts will be re-added once your account has been added after the flash. Also, if on WiFi, when your account has been entered, go to Google Play Store, and click the "my apps" button, and again after some time (depending on the number of apps you had) they too will re-populate. As far as texts, you could try a text backup app -not too familiar with this, as I don't ever have a need to save any texts- and you should be good. Word of warning: DO NOT use Titanium Backup to restore ANY application data, only the apps themselves. Also, another good alternative to TIB is App Backup & Restore. Hopefully, this clears up any doubts you have with your "stuff" and how to retrieve it after a flash...
Apex used capital letters in "do not restore app data" with good reason. Only a handful of times have I not followed those directions and every time I got weird fc's and an overall more unstable system. It's a shame there isn't a good way to do it but it only leads to heartache. Always keep a solid backup. I keep two. One original and another after a couple days on a new rom so that I'm able to experiment down the line.
I hope you have a good experience with your new system and learn a bit. It gets a little addicting.
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Apex_Strider said:
When you install any new ROM, you (usually) need to perform a full wipe through CWM including: wipe user data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik, then flash. Now, that will delete ALL of your stuff, contacts, texts, apps, etc. However, if you have access to WiFi, when your ROM flash has completed, you will be prompted to re-enter your Google account and, at which time, your contacts will re-populate (give it some time). Though, be sure you sync with Google's servers prior to your flash, so that any new contacts will be re-added once your account has been added after the flash. Also, if on WiFi, when your account has been entered, go to Google Play Store, and click the "my apps" button, and again after some time (depending on the number of apps you had) they too will re-populate. As far as texts, you could try a text backup app -not too familiar with this, as I don't ever have a need to save any texts- and you should be good. Word of warning: DO NOT use Titanium Backup to restore ANY application data, only the apps themselves. Also, another good alternative to TIB is App Backup & Restore. Hopefully, this clears up any doubts you have with your "stuff" and how to retrieve it after a flash...
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So, once i clear everything and flash, to get back my apps all i have to do is reinstall "App Backup and Restore" then I can restore any saved apps? Because looking at the play store, the list in my apps (Not Installed) is too long, and contains apps that i simply installed to try and immediately removed.
One more thing as well, well actually 2. I was watching a video by mastermind278 on youtube on how to install custom Roms. He installs a rom by selecting restore from cmw recovery, so my question is, does that restore method work for installing most Roms, say for example, the Romulus rom? And finally, are the separate mods installed in the same way?
fire_fist_ace said:
So, once i clear everything and flash, to get back my apps all i have to do is reinstall "App Backup and Restore" then I can restore any saved apps? Because looking at the play store, the list in my apps (Not Installed) is too long, and contains apps that i simply installed to try and immediately removed.
One more thing as well, well actually 2. I was watching a video by mastermind278 on youtube on how to install custom Roms. He installs a rom by selecting restore from cmw recovery, so my question is, does that restore method work for installing most Roms, say for example, the Romulus rom? And finally, are the separate mods installed in the same way?
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You can 'manually' select which apps you'd like to restore from within this app, so if there are some you'd rather forgo restoring, you can pick and choose.
As far as the flashing method through CWM, you'll just have to read and understand each of the ROM's flashing methods, as some of the GB ROM installs are different (flash or CWM restore). All of which are detailed in the threads for these ROM's. Along with that, any mods you'd like, you'll just need to refer to the install instructions for each...
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[Q] Is it possible to backup settings and data before custom rom?

Good morning to everyone.
I have a stock One S, but now the S-off is possible, I would like to install a custom rom.
My question is: after rooting the phone and before installing the custom rom, is there a way to save\backup all the settings\achievements of the apps and system programs that I used in these 6 months?
Thanks in advance
Alan Slade said:
Good morning to everyone.
I have a stock One S, but now the S-off is possible, I would like to install a custom rom.
My question is: after rooting the phone and before installing the custom rom, is there a way to save\backup all the settings\achievements of the apps and system programs that I used in these 6 months?
Thanks in advance
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Yes it is possible. I used an app called Carbon (free in Play Store) to backup my apps and their data. Carbon also has a feature to backup sms and call log but for me it messed up received times and dates of my messages. So use some other app to backup those... That might have been fixed in newer versions though. Be careful with system app backups especially if you plan to go to an AOSP based rom. They might cause problems in your new rom.
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Titanium Backup as well. Not easy for newbies, but choose backup -> backup all systemdata, then uncheck all and check those with the titanium icon. A backup of data/app with all your apps and settings is a standard function of titanium.
You can see an example on the attached pic.
Keep in mind that unlocking bootloader erases all your apps and their data (mass storage stays untouched). So your data will be erased before you can root your phone. Carbon works on stock unrooted phones as well as it's basically the same as doing an adb backup from your pc. Titanium is way better when you get your phone rooted...
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zaak00 said:
Yes it is possible. I used an app called Carbon (free in Play Store) to backup my apps and their data. Carbon also has a feature to backup sms and call log but for me it messed up received times and dates of my messages. So use some other app to backup those... That might have been fixed in newer versions though. Be careful with system app backups especially if you plan to go to an AOSP based rom. They might cause problems in your new rom.
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I don't know what an AOSP based rom is, but I wanted to try the ViperOnesS because I don't want to lose the Sense.
With my previous Nokia I was used to backup everything[/U ]with a simple click, using the Nokia Pc Suite.
With this Carbon app do you think I'll be able to do the same thing?
Thanks guys.
So I have to download Carbon and save all the system settings?
I have some applications on the phone memory, and others in the internal storage. Is it a problem?
Alan Slade said:
I don't know what an AOSP based rom is, but I wanted to try the ViperOnesS because I don't want to lose the Sense.
With my previous Nokia I was used to backup everything[/U ]with a simple click, using the Nokia Pc Suite.
With this Carbon app do you think I'll be able to do the same thing?
Thanks guys.
So I have to download Carbon and save all the system settings?
I have some applications on the phone memory, and others in the internal storage. Is it a problem?
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Carbon let's you select the apps that you want to backup. And I believe it also has an option to select everything at once... When you have your custom rom up and running you can then either restore everything from the backup or restore only the apps that you want. Apps being in phone/internal memory shouldn't matter.
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zaak00 said:
Apps being in phone/internal memory shouldn't matter.
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But when I install a new rom, they will be erased, right?
Alan Slade said:
But when I install a new rom, they will be erased, right?
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Yes. When you flash a new rom it is usually required to do a factory reset (meaning erase your personal apps and data). That's where backup apps come in handy. When in custom rom, install the backup app (Carbon or Titanium) and it will see backups of your apps and let's you restore them.
Sent from my One S. Please hit thanks if I helped.
Yes, but its advised to not restore system data due differences in frameworks,etc.

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