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[Q] USB 3.0 Display

I'm thinking of possibly replacing my desktop computer with the Microsoft Surface Pro 2 in the future. So while at home I would want to connect it to my monitor and peripheral setup. The Plugable UD-3000 will have everything I will need including a USB 3 to DVI adapter. I'm not a big gamer but I still do want to play some mid-range games. I read in review that the USB display performs fine in normal use and video watching but not recommend for playing games. I could not find much information on this subject so I would really appreciate if anyone can shed some light on how this would compare to a dedicated video output port.
My monitor setup -
http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/VE228H/#overview
http://www.ergotron.com/ProductsDetails/tabid/65/PRDID/351/language/en-CA/Default.aspx

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[Q] Android Mini PC to drive Wall Mounted Photo Frame

I am hoping that as a newbie, someone might give some advice into a Wall Mounted Photo Frame that I have been thinking about.
My purpose is to display mostly High Resolution Animated Gif Art and Cinemagraphs. No Photo Frames can do this.
My idea is to place a 23” or 24” ultra thin monitor into a picture frame and mount it on a wall. The monitor will be powered by an Android Mini PC such as the Android mini PC RK3066 or something similar.
I was going to plug the unit into the HDMI port on the monitor.
I currently use the Quick Pic App on my Asus Tablet to view animate Gifs as a slide show. If someone knows another app please let me know.
In order to make the frame on the wall more esthetic looking, I was going to use a monitor with an external power supply so only one small wire comes down the wall. The power supply will be a brick on the floor. To power the Android Mini PC, I was going to use a power splitter and a stepdown 12v – 5v 3a converter.
To store my images on the unit, I want to use a 32 gig SD card and move them in via wifi. I also want to utilize a Bluetooth key board or wifi in case I want to bring image in from the net.
Does anyone have any experience in this area? Also is it possible to boot right into the app so when I turn it on it will begin to display right away without a pointing device to get it going?
Or even better is there another way to approach this project?
Looking forward to hearing from all.

Cary On said:
I am hoping that as a newbie, someone might give some advice into a Wall Mounted Photo Frame that I have been thinking about.
My purpose is to display mostly High Resolution Animated Gif Art and Cinemagraphs. No Photo Frames can do this.
My idea is to place a 23” or 24” ultra thin monitor into a picture frame and mount it on a wall. The monitor will be powered by an Android Mini PC such as the Android mini PC RK3066 or something similar.
I was going to plug the unit into the HDMI port on the monitor.
I currently use the Quick Pic App on my Asus Tablet to view animate Gifs as a slide show. If someone knows another app please let me know.
In order to make the frame on the wall more esthetic looking, I was going to use a monitor with an external power supply so only one small wire comes down the wall. The power supply will be a brick on the floor. To power the Android Mini PC, I was going to use a power splitter and a stepdown 12v – 5v 3a converter.
To store my images on the unit, I want to use a 32 gig SD card and move them in via wifi. I also want to utilize a Bluetooth key board or wifi in case I want to bring image in from the net.
Does anyone have any experience in this area? Also is it possible to boot right into the app so when I turn it on it will begin to display right away without a pointing device to get it going?
Or even better is there another way to approach this project?
Looking forward to hearing from all.
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The is a free Android app called "Startup Manager" which i use to block certain apps starting up on boot but am sure it has options to force start apps on boot.
ive read the people use it to boot straight into XBMC so might work for your Asus app

Cary On said:
I am hoping that as a newbie, someone might give some advice into a Wall Mounted Photo Frame that I have been thinking about.
My purpose is to display mostly High Resolution Animated Gif Art and Cinemagraphs. No Photo Frames can do this.
My idea is to place a 23” or 24” ultra thin monitor into a picture frame and mount it on a wall. The monitor will be powered by an Android Mini PC such as the Android mini PC RK3066 or something similar.
I was going to plug the unit into the HDMI port on the monitor.
I currently use the Quick Pic App on my Asus Tablet to view animate Gifs as a slide show. If someone knows another app please let me know.
In order to make the frame on the wall more esthetic looking, I was going to use a monitor with an external power supply so only one small wire comes down the wall. The power supply will be a brick on the floor. To power the Android Mini PC, I was going to use a power splitter and a stepdown 12v – 5v 3a converter.
To store my images on the unit, I want to use a 32 gig SD card and move them in via wifi. I also want to utilize a Bluetooth key board or wifi in case I want to bring image in from the net.
Does anyone have any experience in this area? Also is it possible to boot right into the app so when I turn it on it will begin to display right away without a pointing device to get it going?
Or even better is there another way to approach this project?
Looking forward to hearing from all.
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Hi,
In my opinion and from a longer term prespective, the features you are looking for can be achieved much better with an open source digital signage such as xibo.org.uk. In addition to playing animated gif's and images you can play videos, webpages, scrolling text, RSS and scheduling content and much more compared to a simple slideshow app.
Xibo is a client server app so technically, you will need to have two separate machines, one for XIBO CMS (server) and XIBO Android player app each. Xibo for Android app from springsignage.com is only $15.
However, I (and not many have done so) being an experienced xibo user was able to successfully install and test both xibo CMS (server) and XIBO android app on same TV stick/box and then control the CMS over network (wi-fi/internet/LAN) etc to manage and schedule content for the player app.
You can get started really quickly with free and fast help from xibo community forum members.
However,If you want a set up like the one I did with xibo CMS and player app on same tv stick with auto launch of server (CMS) and app on device startup and many other technical hurdles/setup details then we can discuss this further for a bounty.
Pls send me a private message (PM) if you want my paid service so that we can discuss this further and I am confident, I can setup you up for a long term solution.
Thanks and best of luck with xibo.
Regards
btech.

[Android MK809IV 2G/8GB HDMI Stick] Google Voice Not Working [RESOLVED!]

Hello everyone, I have recently purchased a MK809IV Android 4.4.2 HDMI Stick via ebay. It works perfectly for streaming 720P Netflix, youtube and web browsing; EXCEPT for voice input (via Bluetooth headset with Microphone). I was hoping to minimize my dependence on a keyboard by using Google Voice whenever possible. However; this particular device is not detecting any audio input device. As a result, google voice is not launching/running; it just closes a few seconds after I run it. This is a real shame as I was hoping to browse the web or check my e-mail using google voice while gaming on my PC...
I have attached images to provide more information regarding this particular Android Stick and my issue. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.
Mk809IV Android HDMI Stick s131.photobucket.com/user/coffeecoffee10/media/MK809IV.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
No Sound s131.photobucket.com/user/coffeecoffee10/media/No%20Input%20Sound.jpg.html
Bluetooth- No Phone s131.photobucket.com/user/coffeecoffee10/media/No%20Phone%20BT.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
PS: I apologize in advance for posting links in this thread; however, I feel that it's more inappropriate to make 10 random posts that won't contribute or help anyone to meet the requirements for said links. I just want to provide as much information as possible to the community regarding this issue. I feel that these Android HDMI sticks has exceptional potential for their small price tag.
Pixel~
Update Edit: After further testing; I found out that my Kinovo Bluetooth headset (with mic) requires a driver that automatically downloads on my phone, my friend's phone and also my cheapo android tablet. However, the driver is not detected/downloading on this HDMI Stick. I have since found a Plug and Play USB Audio adapter that works with my HDMI stick. HOWEVER; even though the audio INPUT device IS detected and I was able to make audio recordings, Google Voice is still not working; every time I run/launch the app, it closes almost INSTANTLY.
USB Audio PlugNPlay i131.photobucket.com/albums/p311/coffeecoffee10/USB%20PnP.jpg
Pixel~
Update 2.0 : Ok, I've got this ironed out and it's all working perfectly now! I came across the link below on Google's website
support.google.com/websearch/answer/6031948?hl=en
Which states the following requirements:
Google app version 3.5+
Android 4.4+ (KitKat)
Voice & Audio Activity setting turned on
Since I met the 2nd and 3rd requirement, I tried updating Google App via the play store; google voice is now working and running without a hitch! This device is now perfect for my intended applications!
My current setup is as follows if anyone is interested!
Currently running a triple monitor setup with the third monitor on the right connected to the Android Stick and my PC. (from left to right: 22" Portrait Mode, 24" BenQ 144Hz Landscape and 24" Landscape). When I'm gaming, I switch from my DVI (PC) output to HDMI (Android Stick); this allows me to check my e-mail, google for information, play music, watch youtube guides, etc). Also, the USB Plug n play audio adapter I linked earlier; has a mute switch for the Mic. This maximizes the usability for my devices.
I can provide photos of my setup upon request. Thanks for reading!
Pixel~

LG 360 VR PC adapter

I just thought I should share this, since the VR Headset has extremely limited functionality through the phone.
There is a dongle available from a company in South Korea that enables PC use (for movies and Youtube) specifically for the 360 VR. It basically converts HDMI output from your graphics card to USB-C and also has a micro-USB secondary connection for controls.
The name of the tool is Vagle VRD-1000 VR Data Transformer. I was able to get one from the US Amazon this week and waiting for it to arrive and test.
The price was not prohibitive compared to HDMI to USB-C capture boxes that run for a few hundred bucks and it seems tailor made for the LG 360 VR.
Cheers

I'm curious to know how this works out for you. Considering you can grab an LG360 VR google set for under $100, would be a fun addition to play with.

And it works
wilvelas said:
I'm curious to know how this works out for you. Considering you can grab an LG360 VR google set for under $100, would be a fun addition to play with.
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I've received the adapter this week. It works as advertised for playing individual VR video files and Youtube VR streams. I had to download the VR Player from the manufacturer's website and it appears like a modified version of CodePlex VR Player. It includes a device preset for the LG headset. It also installed the K-lite codec pack and VLC automatically.
Head tracking works, video was a bit jittery as I could only test it on my laptop under W10 with an Intel IGP. The manual specifies Intel Graphics are not recommended. My desktop is sitting waiting for memory modules and I will test again once fixed.
One thing to note - as I connected the glasses through the adapter Windows set them up as a second monitor at their native resolution however I couldn't see anything. The glasses only fired up as I've opened the VR Player. However, after closing the player, the glasses still showed the desktop, but it was rotated by 90 degrees. I will try to rotate the desktop on my PC and see if I can have the picture laid out properly. If it works, it might allow me to play my flight sim on the headset.
Long story short, if you want to watch VR videos on the computer, the dongle will work. I've got the LG 360 VR for $60 off ebay and ended up spending more for the dongle ($90). All together it came down to less than a brand new LG 360 VR bought from LG.

whereto download this vr player?
hi Rothas, I tried to plug lv 360 directly into my NUC which has usb-c (thunderbolt 3, compatible with displayport over usb c), it recognizes it as a display 1440*960. but like you said below, nothing is shown on the goggle. want to try this vr player - you said you had to download from manufacturer's website? can't find the website even , can you help?
thanks
Wei
rothas said:
I've received the adapter this week. It works as advertised for playing individual VR video files and Youtube VR streams. I had to download the VR Player from the manufacturer's website and it appears like a modified version of CodePlex VR Player. It includes a device preset for the LG headset. It also installed the K-lite codec pack and VLC automatically.
Head tracking works, video was a bit jittery as I could only test it on my laptop under W10 with an Intel IGP. The manual specifies Intel Graphics are not recommended. My desktop is sitting waiting for memory modules and I will test again once fixed.
One thing to note - as I connected the glasses through the adapter Windows set them up as a second monitor at their native resolution however I couldn't see anything. The glasses only fired up as I've opened the VR Player. However, after closing the player, the glasses still showed the desktop, but it was rotated by 90 degrees. I will try to rotate the desktop on my PC and see if I can have the picture laid out properly. If it works, it might allow me to play my flight sim on the headset.
Long story short, if you want to watch VR videos on the computer, the dongle will work. I've got the LG 360 VR for $60 off ebay and ended up spending more for the dongle ($90). All together it came down to less than a brand new LG 360 VR bought from LG.
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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0LTVBpzZVOLRkx4NEhrelR5RE0
alanma75 said:
hi Rothas, I tried to plug lv 360 directly into my NUC which has usb-c (thunderbolt 3, compatible with displayport over usb c), it recognizes it as a display 1440*960. but like you said below, nothing is shown on the goggle. want to try this vr player - you said you had to download from manufacturer's website? can't find the website even , can you help?
thanks
Wei
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VR Player
Good to see you found it, could you let us know if it works on the NUC without the dongle?
Also, make sure you select the LG device in the player, that is what brings the picture up on my headset. Thanks.

It worked !!!
wow, good news everyone, this really rocks: get LG 360 plug in to a displayport over usb c compatible computer (NUC 7th gen for example).
and fires up this vr player - so far the image are 90 degree turned - I am so excited so need to share the news first. will tweak more and let you guys know.
rothas said:
Good to see you found it, could you let us know if it works on the NUC without the dongle?
Also, make sure you select the LG device in the player, that is what brings the picture up on my headset. Thanks.
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everything works inside vr player once the tracker is set to LG ER1 - I guess it tells VR player to align the orientation from the goggle.
can't seems to get it to work directly - it shows the screen but are 90 degree turned, one clock wise and the other eye counter clockwise, so you can't even change alignment in display setting to fix both eyes
overall I am very happy, just saved $100 on this Vagle if your computer is able to output displayport over USB C directly - it works exactly as the adapter does.
thanks Rothas for this great finding, I wouldn't even think it is possible if I did not read your post.
alanma75 said:
wow, good news everyone, this really rocks: get LG 360 plug in to a displayport over usb c compatible computer (NUC 7th gen for example).
and fires up this vr player - so far the image are 90 degree turned - I am so excited so need to share the news first. will tweak more and let you guys know.
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Great
Oh, I forgot to mention to load up the .json preset included with the player, it does something to the viewing plane.
I still haven't tested rotating the display in W10 due to lack of time, I'll post something once I'm done.
I wish I could've saved the $100 but my desktop doesn't have native USB-C :laugh:

Installed the player and it sort of works. I get the 90" rotated display in the player. Unfortunately my windows doesn't see the glasses driver.Any ideas?

I was able to get my hands on a R100 VR headset for a real bargain.
To get it to work in my use case (As FPV glasses for my racing drone) I need help from someone owning the VRD-1000 "transformer":
Could someone owning said converter please open it up and take pictures of both sides of the PCB? I want to gather some information on the SLIMPORT chipset they used so I can hack together my own adapter.
I am not able to purchase the VRD-1000 it here in europe and importing it would cost me over 200 USD which is quite a bummer
Help would be greatly appreciated! Of course Ill share my findings if this leads to something!

VRD-1000
game-genie said:
I was able to get my hands on a R100 VR headset for a real bargain.
To get it to work in my use case (As FPV glasses for my racing drone) I need help from someone owning the VRD-1000 "transformer":
Could someone owning said converter please open it up and take pictures of both sides of the PCB? I want to gather some information on the SLIMPORT chipset they used so I can hack together my own adapter.
I am not able to purchase the VRD-1000 it here in europe and importing it would cost me over 200 USD which is quite a bummer
Help would be greatly appreciated! Of course Ill share my findings if this leads to something!
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Will PM you tonight

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You are my hero!
I'll update ASAP with my findings

There was a question about components used in that Data Transformer dongle. It's not a direct answer, but the following press note lists the components used in LG G5 phone and in glasses themselves (google for the following title):
"Analogix and LG Take Mobile VR to the Next Level with LG 360 VR"
The components are:
LG G5: SlimPort ANX7816 transmitter and ANX7418 USB-C switch and controller;
LG 360 VR: SlimPort ANX7737 converter and ANX7402 USB-C controller.
I have a question to alanma75. What happens when you plug LG glasses to your NUC, without starting that VR prlayer? What do you need to do to force the glasses to show anything?
I have access to one Win7 and one Win10 laptops with USB-C interface. When I connect glasses to them, laptops recognize an external display of 1440x960 resolution, I can extend the desktop to that space, I can drag the windows there, but the glasses remain dark. For a moment I thought that simply there is no back-light triggered, but I don't see any activity on those LCD pa panels (yes, I unscrewed the lenses to look directly at LCDs). What needs to be done to kick-start the goggles?

Just picked up one of these headsets for $20, B&H photo has them refurb for that right now. Have had my eyes on these to try and hack and mod a bit.
But reading over the info, it's gonna be a tough one, maybe not really worth it.
The Vagle VRD-1000 is pretty interesting, this PDF has some interesting details about what it does internally:
http://tvlogic.tv/VR/vagle(VRD-1000) Product Profile_v1.0(ENG).pdf
Interesting parts: I see HDMI to Display Port and DDC. DDC appears to be "Display Data Channel" which is an i2c protocol. See here for some info on that and how that fits in to USB - C https://www.mouser.com/applications/usb-type-c-adds-hdmi/
Perhaps DDC is used to instruct the goggles how to display - for instance it's been mentioned of people getting images, but 90 degrees rotation? Perhaps DDC is used to instruct the goggle how to orient the image, etc.
Then also I see mentioned "Coordination info" this is probably motion tracking info I'm guessing. Personally I'm not as interested in this aspect, I'm more interested in just being able to control the displays, maybe get general HDMI input working.
Here is an interesting github project that appears to be using or attempting to use the VRD-1000 along with this headset https://github.com/TrueOpenVR

How about an adapter Type C to USB 3.0, somebody tried, it works?
The code for get orientation data from USB сan be found after decompiled "Vr Player.Trackers.LgeR1360Tracker.dll" (C#, decompiled without problems with using ILSpy). File "Vr Player.Trackers.LgeR1360Tracker.dll is located in the player folder [1][2]
There can do support for SteamVR and other vr programs.
snap3D, it is probably necessary to send the packet over USB to enable it. LG G5 (or Vagle VRD-1000) most likely sends a special package to turn on the displays. Probably it's done so people do not try to connect to the PC. Need to capture the usb packet (from Vagle).

I also have G5 phone (and obviously VR360 glasses light up when LG app is running and glasses proximity sensor is covered; glasses immediately turn off when proximity sensor is uncovered), but unfortunately no access to USB-C analyzers. It would be interesting to see if the glasses connected to PC (via Vagle adapter or directly through USB-C interface) can continue to show the image after initial packet trigger. To test that theory I ordered a "MeeGoPad T09" micro computer (for $130 from "geekbuying" Asian site), which is less than $10 more expensive than the Vagle adapter (and as a bonus I'll have a tiny PC running Win10 OS; you can go even smaller with PC-stick "MeeGoPad T08"; both MeeGoPads have USB-C interface). I'll try to install that proprietary VR player s/w (link provided earlier in this thread) on MeeGoPad and we will see what happens.

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snap3D, it is probably necessary to send the packet over USB to enable it. LG G5 (or Vagle VRD-1000) most likely sends a special package to turn on the displays. Probably it's done so people do not try to connect to the PC. Need to capture the usb packet (from Vagle).
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I think that "USB Packet" might actually be an i2c packet over a wire that's a part of the USB C spec. The DDC "Display Data Channel" signal I mentioned before. So might be easier to reverse engineer than a USB packet would.

del

So I took my goggles apart just to look around inside. Noticed these test pads on the main PCB, labelled GND, 5V, D-, D+ and B. So that looks like USB to me, but not sure what B is. These might just be some kind of ISP firmware update pads or something though. I might try to solder a USB A cable to them, plug it in to my computer and see what happens. Also here's a picture of the back side of the board just for info. Let me know if anyone wants a picture of something specific.

0TheRain0, yes, I wonder what will happen.

Does my $75 solution work better LG G4 with the Oneplus loop VR?

[HELP] Build :Dasaita Max6 digital output with volume control

Hi guys I am owner of a Dasaita Max6 with dsp, I would like to have a digital audio output to connect an external amplifier (helix, audison etc). You can help me (I have basic knowledge of electronics), perhaps from the dsp of my Dasaita max6 with an I2s to spdif interface? any forum user did this? thanks (sorry for my bad english)

hello,
there are quite a few solutions to your problem.
i'm using HELIX dsp; music transmitted via TOSLINK to dsp with UAPP and USB to toslink converter; radio, bt, maps via RCA analog input (no issue though, those are LQ signals).
you won't be able to transmit TOSLINK directly unless you know how to extract I2S data from ADAU1401 DSP (yet audio would be limited to 44.1kHz/16bit /android limitation/... so not the best solution).
to get digital audio OUT:
-use Universal Audio Player PRO; it provides 'bit perfect mode' so you get losless quality. it uses it's own USB driver to bypass android limitations.
-use USB to SPDIF converter. there are many solutions like I2SoverUSBv3 (one of the best quality; i'm using it right now); MCHstreamer (versatile); or devices like Topping D10s; E30 -very good DAC with spdif OUT (check audioscience for review). not sure if UAPP works with Topping though.
one issue that might occur - You'll have no software volume control if you'll be using 'bit perfect mode'.
my dasaita / UAPP has no software volume control at all (with or without 'bp mode'). so i need 'helix director' for volume control.
so in general - it's easy and it simply works

Hi ...........Thanks to TNSMANI for moving my post to a better section ,.
Thanks mahtew for helping me find an alternative solution and for the detailed explanation but I would like to have a real digital output if possible (this to have as few distractions as possible driving the car and not have other electronic devices to manage, such as space, costs etc) but not being an electronic technician but only an amateur (very amateur), I knew that from the dsp chip it is possible to do this, perhaps in this beautiful forum there is a technician who solves this problem ...... thanks
(p.s. excuse me for bad english)

you can belive me or not, but your solution will not benefit with much better sound quality. you will be limited to 16bit/44.1kHz which is limit for android sound driver. it might be good but not the best what you can achive. yet it will be better that RCAout
USB data is asynchronous so quite resistive to noise. USB converters are quite good. so you can get HQ digital source.
if you really need SPDIF out from MCU board, then you should find local workshop specialized in repairing electronic devices. it should be quite easy for him to extract i2s data [input to DSP]. yet keep in mind, that you'll still need RCAout for radio and other non android sounds.

.moved to MTCD..

Hi, let me explain better: I would like to know what are the pins (MASTER CLOCK [MCLKI] ,
BIT CLOCK [BCLK] ,WORD CLOCK [LRCK] ,SERIAL DATA [SD DATA OUT] of the dsp ADAU1401A (Dasaita Max6) to connect an I2S card to spdif
thanks

ginoromano said:
Hi, let me explain better: I would like to know what are the pins (MASTER CLOCK [MCLKI] ,
BIT CLOCK [BCLK] ,WORD CLOCK [LRCK] ,SERIAL DATA [SD DATA OUT] of the dsp ADAU1401A (Dasaita Max6) to connect an I2S card to spdif
thanks
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What does the Datasheet tell you? Were you looking for someone else to do the work and explain to you how to do it?
Here's the datasheet, all the info concerning interfacing to the ADA: https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/ADAU1401A.pdf

hello, thanks for replying, I only have basic electronics information, I do not have the datashet of the dasaita max6 but I think that the ADAU1401A has activated an analog connection of the front of the rear and of the sub, but is programmed to activate the I2s digital outputs ? if the answer is yes, what are the pins of the digital front? thanks