Question:
How would one run a FULL VERSION of GoogleTV, MythTV, or any HTPC on Atrix2, WITHOUT JUST USING SOME FLIMSEY APP! (please specify or link to, the individual detailed steps)
ULTIMATE GOAL:
Connect to an SMB share over a wifi LAN, and play video files stored there (hopefully, at least AVI and MP4), while output/displaying these videos (via HDMI) to a TV.
STRICT RULES:
PLEASE, don't post any negativity, or skepticism (Just change the channel!)
You are hereby, given 100% complete license to BS, just take a wild guess/STAB at this!! :silly:
DO NOT insult, the courage of NOOBS or DEV-Wannabes in this thread, who at least try to theorize about this exciting idea, or solutions to the challenges of proposed methods of getting this done.
DEMONSTRATE your own knowledge... elaborate, or fix any flaws in posted theories, ideas, and suggestions here.:victory:
PLEASE feel free to include links to external tutorials, or other threads.:angel:
PLEASE use the best possible grammar in the english language that you can muster, with as few abbreviations as possible.:good:
If you use terminology that goes beyond the NOOB guide, try to link it out to to a Wikipedia or other source that explains that term.
ACCEPT my humblest and most sincere gratitude, on behalf of the others who might benefit from your time and effort here in this thread!! :angel:
Questions/Myths - Please debunk common misunderstandings as often as possible (without sounding condemning, if possible
Possible Hurdles:
Many "all in one" ISO's of Linux HTPC repos are BIG.
The "FULL UBUNTU" might prove difficult to get HTPC running on it.
GoogleTV might require making the phone think it is NOT an Atrix2 (maybe some MOD, such as otacerts.zip or CDT.bin/CID?)
To the best of my knowledge, there is no Android SDK AVD/emulator or virtualbox image for Atrix2
Maybe XBMC, Plex, or some other DLNA capable media server/extender would be easier??
Remember that many cool things began as a CRAZY IDEA!! :highfive:
WHY? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS? :cyclops:
The primary BENEFITs of this experiment, is the skill and understanding we gain, of Linux, Android, and DLNA protocols, etc.
The Google Play store apps (simply installing a crippled but flashy/stable PLEX or XBMC apk), is NOT going to help us learn very much.
The hard way, is sometimes the best way. We want to run GoogleTV on the A2 platform, or else run a full LINUX version of a media server (such as UbuntuTV).
When you become willing to RISK exposing your true knowledge/skill level, you become a better student, and more likely to one day become a true expert.
WHAT IF!?!
What if someone has already done this? If nobody ever asked, nobody else would ever know! HAVE YOU DONE THIS, OR SOMETHING LIKE IT, ALREADY?? Please share your story with us here!!
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QUALIFYING PRIMARY SOLUTIONS :good::good::good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39841066&postcount=2
(As mentioned above, these are FULLFILL THE MAIN OBJECTIVE, and while they may be "unrealistic", depending on who you ask, still reflect what may be possible)
Title: Full Ubuntu Route
Credits/Author(s): Jim Bridgeman - Post(s)#2
Reference(s): Jim's OP on Full Ubuntu with Desktop
Procedure/Mod(s): Follow referenced procedure by Jim (above), then use package installer to compile/make setup, & install MythTV (or similar products).
ANYONE ELSE? (come on, throw something out there!!)
QUALIFYING ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS :good::good:
(As mentioned above, these are last resorts, but still valid methods to get a subset of the same functionality that will be had by installing the full server product)
XBMC (already mentioned above, but here are the links you'll want):
Wiki FAQ (last modified on 18 March 2013)
Quote (from above page): ""Will this really do 1080 and all that stuff the desktop can do? ... Yes! This is a full port of XBMC! It is not a thin client or lite version!""
Initial Announcement (July 13th, 2012)
Downloads
Plex (again, also already mentioned above, but here are the links you'll want):
Initial Announcement & Overview (February 11th, 2013)
Forum with Download Links (Scroll down for latest version)
Direct DL: Plex for Android v2.9.32
GooglePlay Store: Plex for Android v2.9.32
Title: XBMC Variant #1
Credits/Author(s): Jattkhalsa, Post #3
Procedure/App(s): Use XBMC (per links above) on A2, plus "use either ES Explorer or Mount Manager/CIFS Manager for SMB access"
Title: MX Player Plus ES File Explorer
Credits/Author(s): MtnLion, Post #4
Procedure/App(s): MX Player Plus ES File Explorer
Comment(s): Plays anything from an SMB share, that MX Player can play locally, depending on buffering probably (Avi mkv mp4, etc)
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RELEVANT COMMENTS: :good:
(these are not considered primary, or even alternate solutions. However, they are relevant, and are appreciated)
Title: Rasberry Pie (Progeny of Arduino)
Credits/Author(s): lkrasner, Post #5
Procedure/Idea(s): "would be damn near impossible and not worth the effort" [abandon Atrix 2 for this experiment and] "go by a raspbery pi"
Please reference rule #1 (not an XDA enforceable rule), above, if at all possible :angel:
PRichardson said:
Question:
How would one run a FULL VERSION of GoogleTV, MythTV, or any HTPC on Atrix2, WITHOUT JUST USING SOME FLIMSEY APP! (please specify or link to, the individual detailed steps)
ULTIMATE GOAL:
Connect to an SMB share over a wifi LAN, and play video files stored there (hopefully, at least AVI and MP4), while output/displaying these videos (via HDMI) to a TV.
STRICT RULES:
PLEASE, don't post any negativity, or skepticism (Just change the channel!)
You are hereby, given 100% complete license to BS, just take a wild guess/STAB at this!! :silly:
DO NOT insult, the courage of NOOBS or DEV-Wannabes in this thread, who at least try to theorize about this exciting idea, or solutions to the challenges of proposed methods of getting this done.
DEMONSTRATE your own knowledge... elaborate, or fix any flaws in posted theories, ideas, and suggestions here.:victory:
PLEASE feel free to include links to external tutorials, or other threads.:angel:
PLEASE use the best possible grammar in the english language that you can muster, with as few abbreviations as possible.:good:
If you use terminology that goes beyond the NOOB guide, try to link it out to to a Wikipedia or other source that explains that term.
ACCEPT my humblest and most sincere gratitude, on behalf of the others who might benefit from your time and effort here in this thread!! :angel:
Questions/Myths - Please debunk common misunderstandings as often as possible (without sounding condemning, if possible
Possible Hurdles:
Many "all in one" ISO's of Linux HTPC repos are BIG.
The "FULL UBUNTU" might prove difficult to get HTPC running on it.
GoogleTV might require making the phone think it is NOT an Atrix2 (maybe some MOD, such as otacerts.zip or CDT.bin/CID?)
To the best of my knowledge, there is no Android SDK AVD/emulator or virtualbox image for Atrix2
Maybe XBMC, Plex, or some other DLNA capable media server/extender would be easier??
Remember that many cool things began as a CRAZY IDEA!! :highfive:
WHY? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS? :cyclops:
The primary BENEFITs of this experiment, is the skill and understanding we gain, of Linux, Android, and DLNA protocols, etc.
The Google Play store apps (simply installing a crippled but flashy/stable PLEX or XBMC apk), is NOT going to help us learn very much.
The hard way, is sometimes the best way. We want to run GoogleTV on the A2 platform, or else run a full LINUX version of a media server (such as UbuntuTV).
When you become willing to RISK exposing your true knowledge/skill level, you become a better student, and more likely to one day become a true expert.
WHAT IF!?!
What if someone has already done this? If nobody ever asked, nobody else would ever know! HAVE YOU DONE THIS, OR SOMETHING LIKE IT, ALREADY?? Please share your story with us here!!
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Are you wanting to run the "server" part of an htpc like app on your artix2 or just use the atrix2 as a client to connect to say a Linux HTPC / god forbid a Windows media setup, using an app on the atrix2, like mythtv has a client as well as a ton of DLNA "client" apps.
If you want to run the server part on the phone, and connect, and mount an "NFS" like share to the phone, that may be possible using some of the features of android itself, but the whole DLNA like sharing, might be the hurdle to overcome if doing it this way. I am sure an app could very easily be written in Java to handle the serving up the content via DLNA, but that was not what you actually asked about, so.... My question still remains. Which route do you want to go that will determine much of the needed info that can be shared by others.
If you are going to do this on a Linux server what are the limitations of your hardware? like you mention that the ISOs are huge, so is that an issue with disk space on box you want to use, or your DL speed that you are concerned with there?
P.S. I run mythtv as my HTPC on a Linux box at home, and my Atrix2 and other devices have no issues connecting to it even when I am remote, so it can be done this way very easily.
I would use XBMC try the hardware acceleration enabled beta builds and use either ES Explorer or Mount Manager/CIFS Manager for SMB access.
I personally use a combination of es file explorer and MX player. Plays anything from my network without issue. Avi mkv mp4 whatever. Normally I only use it when traveling and the hotel TV has HDMI but it works equally well for wilan or ftp.
Edit: If you're looking for full control of a htpc try splash top then mirroring the display via HDMI. I have the paid version of splashtop and find it to be amazing when I need my desktop away from home. It will mirror through slim port on my n4 so while I haven't tried it with my A2 I bet it will work. I use this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004TT0ZDK for a remote control.
Well, Android is linux, and we have gotten full ubuntu in webtop, so it is possible to run something else, but it would be damn near impossible and not worth the effort.
My advice: go by a raspbery pi for 30 bucks (model B, has ethernet) and use that! It runs full hd video over hdmi perfectly, and you can hook up the a2 with usb or on the network to take files. It will run like any full sized computer and give all the power you need for a few bucks. and you get to learn about linux, so, win, win win!
Best of luck!
Initial Planning Stages, and Great Ideas to Start Out With...
Wow! This is awesome! (feel like a kid making his Christmas wish list, or just getting killer R&R, after a long tour)... ok...
jimbridgman said:
Are you wanting to run the "server" part of an htpc like app on your artix2 or ...
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A minor, but additional benefit (beyond the BIG purpose of helping NOOBs like me, learn more about Linux/Android), is that when/if I'm running over to a hacker meetup/friends house/lab, it's important that 'almost' everything be contained and "ready to go", without saying, "hey, we just need to install XYZ on one of your LAN boxes now, then we can do this". The ONLY thing beyond bringing my kick-your-4ss eLEET 47r1X-11 that should be required in order to impress the 1 female in the room of 20, is the ability to connect to a NFS or Samba/smb share, where videos are stored.
jimbridgman said:
... to connect to say a Linux HTPC / god forbid a Windows media setup, using an app on the atrix2, like mythtv has a client as well as a ton of DLNA "client" apps.
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...NOT to worry, I saw someone mention the 'W' at a Def Con, and then suddenly refuse to give his business card to anyone else But, I should mention that I was intentionally baiting folks a bit. I myself have used the full Plex app (android client) to connect via WIFI to a Plex Server (daemon)
jimbridgman said:
...If you want to run the server part on the phone, and connect, and mount an "NFS" like share to the phone, that may be possible using some of the features of android itself, but the whole DLNA like sharing, might be the hurdle to overcome if doing it this way.
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YES! This is exactly what I want to do, and some of your posts (yeah, I had to go there), actually inspired me with this idea. In particular, "How to Get FULL UBUNTU and your favorite desktop on A2" seems to be one F-ing awesome starting point. On the other hand, your post regarding the upcoming Ubuntu phone (just hit 'THANKS' for that), it equally high dollar, but I'm impatient
jimbridgman said:
...I am sure an app could very easily be written in Java to handle the serving up the content via DLNA...
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Yup. XBMC and Plex both have apps designed specifically to serve video to an external display, but both require the FULL SERVER installed elsewhere on the same LAN. (The advantage to that being a 'push-button' easy factor, just install the apk -- cool, granted, but just not the direction I'm going with this experiment)
jimbridgman said:
.. My question still remains. Which route do you want to go that will determine much of the needed info that can be shared by others.
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BUSTED! No matter how hard I try Jim, I always feel guilty after reading your replies to me, like "dangit, why didn't I think to search for THAT, instead of those stupid searches I actually DID do". And in a similar way, I'm really sort of 'borderline close' (as usual), to what THE XDA FORUM RULES allow, because I'm not 100% clear yet, on exactly what the final answer (if there is one), might be to these questions, and where I want this to end up, and hoping some DEVs might join the conversation here.
jimbridgman said:
If you are going to do this on a Linux server what are the limitations of your hardware? like you mention that the ISOs are huge, so is that an issue with disk space on box you want to use, or your DL speed that you are concerned with there?
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... that's another good point I did not yet consider. I think that a 32Gb MicroSD card should be sort of considered as "the limit". There may be distro's and methods to get the whole thing onto the phone's internal space, but I'd rather partition the SD card and get more power and functionality. Download speed may be a concern for some folks, but I'll just recommend they use a Torrent client (which will auto-check their ISO hashes), or some other DL manager with resume capability.
jimbridgman said:
I run mythtv as my HTPC on a Linux box at home, and my Atrix2 and other devices have no issues connecting to it even when I am remote, so it can be done this way very easily.
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That's awesome, and I might wind up just falling back to using the Atrix2 with some App that works as a client. But I wanted to at least give it a shot, getting the A2 to be the full media server, and have no other requirement than the ability to stream from a shared network drive over WIFI.
:highfive:
Thank You!
jattkhalsa said:
I would use XBMC try the hardware acceleration enabled beta builds and use either ES Explorer or Mount Manager/CIFS Manager for SMB access.
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Thanks for the tip, I might try that if the "Server route" fails.
PRichardson said:
Thanks for the tip, I might try that if the "Server route" fails.
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My network storage is plugged directly into my wireless router. The only apps I require to watch or download anything from it are on my phone. In fact through es file explorer I can access the contents of my server ,3 desktops, 2 laptops and the network storage.
As you can see I'm using a smb share.
Alternate Solution (Thank You!)
mtnlion said:
I personally use a combination of es file explorer and MX player. Plays anything from my network without issue. Avi mkv mp4 whatever. Normally I only use it when traveling and the hotel TV has HDMI but it works equally well for wilan or ftp.
... If you're looking for full control of a htpc try splash top then mirroring the display via HDMI.
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Hi MountainLion!,
Thanks for this great advise. :good: I think this definitely qualifies as a potential FULL [alternative] SOLUTION to the original questions, (including all constraints and caveats). I appreciate the links too, regarding remote access, perhaps worth a separate discussion thread.
(I will update the OP, with qualified alternate solutions, we this discussion continues)
~p
PRichardson said:
Wow! This is awesome! (feel like a kid making his Christmas wish list, or just getting killer R&R, after a long tour)... ok...
A minor, but additional benefit (beyond the BIG purpose of helping NOOBs like me, learn more about Linux/Android), is that when/if I'm running over to a hacker meetup/friends house/lab, it's important that 'almost' everything be contained and "ready to go", without saying, "hey, we just need to install XYZ on one of your LAN boxes now, then we can do this". The ONLY thing beyond bringing my kick-your-4ss eLEET 47r1X-11 that should be required in order to impress the 1 female in the room of 20, is the ability to connect to a NFS or Samba/smb share, where videos are stored.
...NOT to worry, I saw someone mention the 'W' at a Def Con, and then suddenly refuse to give his business card to anyone else But, I should mention that I was intentionally baiting folks a bit. I myself have used the full Plex app (android client) to connect via WIFI to a Plex Server (daemon)
YES! This is exactly what I want to do, and some of your posts (yeah, I had to go there), actually inspired me with this idea. In particular, "How to Get FULL UBUNTU and your favorite desktop on A2" seems to be one F-ing awesome starting point. On the other hand, your post regarding the upcoming Ubuntu phone (just hit 'THANKS' for that), it equally high dollar, but I'm impatient
Yup. XBMC and Plex both have apps designed specifically to serve video to an external display, but both require the FULL SERVER installed elsewhere on the same LAN. (The advantage to that being a 'push-button' easy factor, just install the apk -- cool, granted, but just not the direction I'm going with this experiment)
BUSTED! No matter how hard I try Jim, I always feel guilty after reading your replies to me, like "dangit, why didn't I think to search for THAT, instead of those stupid searches I actually DID do". And in a similar way, I'm really sort of 'borderline close' (as usual), to what THE XDA FORUM RULES allow, because I'm not 100% clear yet, on exactly what the final answer (if there is one), might be to these questions, and where I want this to end up, and hoping some DEVs might join the conversation here.
... that's another good point I did not yet consider. I think that a 32Gb MicroSD card should be sort of considered as "the limit". There may be distro's and methods to get the whole thing onto the phone's internal space, but I'd rather partition the SD card and get more power and functionality. Download speed may be a concern for some folks, but I'll just recommend they use a Torrent client (which will auto-check their ISO hashes), or some other DL manager with resume capability.
That's awesome, and I might wind up just falling back to using the Atrix2 with some App that works as a client. But I wanted to at least give it a shot, getting the A2 to be the full media server, and have no other requirement than the ability to stream from a shared network drive over WIFI.
:highfive:
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Now we are talking here!
Yes if you want to do this as a sever with mythtv, or another sever like app like xbmc, you need to be on GB and use my ubuntu hack as a start. you might be able to get every needed part working, but there might be parts thst are not compiled for arm, as well.
Here is THE place to start once you have my ubuntu hack working in webtop:
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO_-_0.26
XBMC has a similar guide on their site, but you might have issues with needed pkgs that are not compiled for arm... so... that might derail you for one or the other. I say give it a shot the worst that could happen is that it does not work, then all you lost was time and probably learned something, in the process.
jimbridgman said:
Now we are talking here!
Yes if you want to do this as a sever with mythtv, or another sever like app like xbmc, you need to be on GB and use my ubuntu hack as a start. you might be able to get every needed part working, but there might be parts thst are not compiled for arm, as well.
Here is THE place to start once you have my ubuntu hack working in webtop:
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO_-_0.26
XBMC has a similar guide on their site, but you might have issues with needed pkgs that are not compiled for arm... so... that might derail you for one or the other. I say give it a shot the worst that could happen is that it does not work, then all you lost was time and probably learned something, in the process.
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This is hilarious seeing you two reunited here. it's like 2 kids that haven't seen each other in years meeting again in a candy shop....... accept it's two adult nerds on a development forum.
No offense though. carry on. I'm actually interested.
anyways xmbc should work. I got It on my raspberry pi which is arm quite easily
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Raspberry Pi
lkrasner said:
...go by a raspbery pi for 30 bucks ... Best of luck!
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Hey Krasner!
Good to see you around man. I appreciate all the help I can get too (I need it!). Last year I had a kid show me a lunch box with BackTrack 5r3 on it, and I was very impressed. Scroll down and check the right column (Date Added), of this Amazon "Wish List" (just how I track things I'm interested in, on that site), and you'll see some of the goodies I found back in mid-February.
Update: I just saw your last post ---- ROFLOL. (yeah, I guess I still get a slight pulse raise over techie stuff!)
Thanks again!,
~p
:victory:
lkrasner said:
anyways xmbc should work. I got It on my raspberry pi which is arm quite easily
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Should, do can be deadly.... LOL the issue is not with xbmc itself, it is weather the required packages are in the ubuntu arm webtop repo, that is the issue to check, seeing as no one has tried it in webtop yet.
LOL... you know you are as nerdy as the rest of us, lkrasner.
If there had never been nerds we all would still be doing the hunter gather thing, praying for lightning to bring us fire.
Related
I'm currently working on a Bugtracker for the xda-developers (my own project - wasn't asked by anybody)
The idea behind it is to allow:
The Developers to see what bugs are outstanding
The user to submit their problems
The curious to see which ROM has less bugs
The n00bs to do research before asking questions (and have more places to spam)
I'm not planning to replace the forums, I just want to make an extra tool that can be used along side the forums - but is neater for bug reporting
Feel free to post your thoughts on if you like it (and so what should be included) or if you don't like it (and so what should replace it, if anything)
Thanks!
Hey, that's very nice.
But.. Are we talking about a new website? or just a new thread?
DaVince said:
Hey, that's very nice.
But.. Are we talking about a new website? or just a new thread?
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Entirely new website.
It will be hosted on my http://www.vidmes.com webserver
i voted approving the bugtracker but i like the idea of all the information about universal development being centralized in one only location.
so, i think it would be interesting to keep it in this forum.
It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
DaVince said:
It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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Well, I've done some tentative work on it - and its looking good (if a little bare - I'm a software developer, not a web designer )
I'm a little busy this week, so its going to be about 2 weeks before I announce the link for the Beta
In the mean time, I'd like suggestions as to what people want in it
(Also, I notice one negative vote - I'd like to see their argument....)
Thanks!
Great Idea
I think mandatory information should be
1) Device Vendor...ie Imate, XDA etc
2) Radio stack in use
3) OS Rom in use
4) Third party software installed ( I know this list can be big, I myself have well over 100 apps as std) but is important for diagnosing bugs. Perhaps we could get an AppMgr listing from each system, not too hard to obtain.
You could also go overboard a little and have a PDA page, browseable from our Uni's so nothing graphics intensive or fancy. A simple login dialogue ( Can we port XDA-Dev user accounts?) once the user has logged in, they fill in a basic form with the bug description, click on submit and we could pull the information in points 1 to 4 above off of the device with a script.
Just my 50pence worth.
Great idea m8, hope it gets somewhere.............let me know if I can help with anything.
Cheers,
Beast
yes! would be really helpful for cooks
beast0898 said:
I think mandatory information should be
1) Device Vendor...ie Imate, XDA etc
2) Radio stack in use
3) OS Rom in use
4) Third party software installed ( I know this list can be big, I myself have well over 100 apps as std) but is important for diagnosing bugs. Perhaps we could get an AppMgr listing from each system, not too hard to obtain.
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What I was planning to do with this is to have them describe a "Bug" in very generic terms as the Bug's description. Then they are required to add a comment (which other people may add) - this comment would have a "template" which would have things such as vendor, radio (I didn't actually think of this one), etc...
beast0898 said:
You could also go overboard a little and have a PDA page, browseable from our Uni's so nothing graphics intensive or fancy. A simple login dialogue ( Can we port XDA-Dev user accounts?) once the user has logged in, they fill in a basic form with the bug description, click on submit and we could pull the information in points 1 to 4 above off of the device with a script.
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Some good ideas but....
I can't actually get info from the xda-developer's forums database - this may be a security risk on their behalf and would require far to much messing around to organise (as much as I would like to do it)
You will be able to view the page on your PDA's - its _very_ basic and I'll try to keep it xHTML complaint and do fanciness with CSS (though at the moment it does use some table hax)
Pulling info out of the PDA is virtually impossible (unless I build an app for the PDA's.... maybe later ) since the pda only tells me what browser version it is using
Either way - these are the things I like to see - Ideas!!!!
Keep them coming!
DaVince said:
It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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I totally agree with DaVince, having a bug tracking website would be cool and having a link directly to the site via xda-developers is a good idea. Keeping everything centralised and available for use by everyone who uses xda-developers.
You have my vote! Would be a great tool...
gsmknight
TehPenguin said:
What I was planning to do with this is to have them describe a "Bug" in very generic terms as the Bug's description. Then they are required to add a comment (which other people may add) - this comment would have a "template" which would have things such as vendor, radio (I didn't actually think of this one), etc...
Some good ideas but....
I can't actually get info from the xda-developer's forums database - this may be a security risk on their behalf and would require far to much messing around to organise (as much as I would like to do it)
You will be able to view the page on your PDA's - its _very_ basic and I'll try to keep it xHTML complaint and do fanciness with CSS (though at the moment it does use some table hax)
Pulling info out of the PDA is virtually impossible (unless I build an app for the PDA's.... maybe later ) since the pda only tells me what browser version it is using
Either way - these are the things I like to see - Ideas!!!!
Keep them coming!
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Hi TehPenguin,
Surely we can run a JScript or Vbs through the PPC Browser to get the required data from the Reg, only a couple of RegReads!
Just another thought............... I prefer accurate information, the reg is less likely to make mistakes than a user!! (No offence intended to anyone)
L8r,
Beast
Bugtracker
Hi,
Would be great to have this.
Looking forward
Leo
Why not use one of the many bugtrackers already out there? I prefer Flyspray (http://www.flyspray.org/) since it's as mighty as Mantis, but more Web 2.0 ... and you should be able to browse it on your PPC, although I don't think anybody really wants this ...
Cheers,
-mARKUS
P.S.: As for getting registry stuff through the PPC ... I doubt you can read out the registry by a JavaScript running on the page itself. Also there are many geeks out there who use Resco so they could easily export a .reg-file and attach it to the report.
mbirth said:
Why not use one of the many bugtrackers already out there? I prefer Flyspray (http://www.flyspray.org/) since it's as mighty as Mantis, but more Web 2.0 ... and you should be able to browse it on your PPC, although I don't think anybody really wants this ...
Cheers,
-mARKUS
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I've had a look at at a number of bug reporting systems - the problem with them is that I'd have to end up customising it quite a bit anyway. For instance, they are typically designed for one program, possibly with options to support different parts\plug-ins for these programs. My design involves having multiple "Devices" each with multiple "ROMs", which may be deprecated, and each of these ROMs have multiple bugs - thats a couple more levels of complexity than the average bug tracker can handle.
Although they are more "Web 2.0" the Javasript\other fanciness would make it difficult to view on a PDA. Personally I prefer the old style Web 1.0 and a PHP back end
The other advantage of me making it is that you guys can have, almost, anything you want - and it should be done as soon as I have time, seeing as I know the code intimately.
And the point I really like - I love coding
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P.S.: As for getting registry stuff through the PPC ... I doubt you can read out the registry by a JavaScript running on the page itself. Also there are many geeks out there who use Resco so they could easily export a .reg-file and attach it to the report.
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Exporting a reg file is the only possibility. Due to "security" problems, no script can actually see the registry of the device (or your PC for that matter), except what is in the "User Agent" key.
I'll put it on the "TODO" list to make a .NET program that automatically dumps your settings and creates a bug report
Given time, this can become quite beautiful. And time is now something that I will have - since I'm on holidays for the next few weeks!! (Yay for no more exams!!)
The alpha version is almost finished
I'll put a link up onto WM-Gurus for the final testing stage of the Alpha and see how it goes
Once the Alpha is complete (ie not too buggy) I'll put the link for the Beta here
Enjoy!
this is really a great idea.
i hope all goes well...
thanks to all!
Okay,
ALPHA VERSION IS NOW AVAILABLE!!!!
You can see it by going to: http://xdabugs.vidmes.com
Feel free to register or use the following users:
Username "test" password "testing" (Access level - registered user)
Username "dev" password "dev" (Access level - developer)
Username "admin" password "password" (Access level - administrator)
PLEASE NOTE: At the end of the Alpha stage, ALL DATA WILL BE CLEARED FROM THE DATABASE!
What I need people to do:
Look for bugs
Write the Help\FAQ sections
Ask me questions so I can write the Help\FAQ sections
See what else is needed
Enjoy!!
Description- Looking at something worth taking a picture of? Use PhotoSwap and send your picture immediately to another randomly selected PhotoSwap user. In exchange, you'll get a picture from him. You can reply to each picture you receive with another picture. PhotoSwap lets you engage in a real photo-based conversation.
Each picture taken has one and only one recipient. Be surprised by a unique glimpse into someone elses life.
Any thing like this for Windows Mobile??
Could something like this be made?
I like this but dont want to get an iphone to use this app,
i'd put money on it that people would start sending 18+ images. Problem with that is that kids will start to use the service so they can get dirty images.
Haha they have u get like banned for like a week on the version from the iphone. E-mailed the Maker of the App. Says there considering it but no plan of action yet..
Sounds like MMS......
I would love for an Android PhotoSwap clone. That would be awesome.
is there now an app like photoswap?
greetings from Ger
there is always pic swap, but needs updating badly.
(not so) long time reader, first time poster
Ive been working on a Photoswap clone for Android recently after being annoyed at how much Picswap crashes. While not 100% complete, the only real issue so far is that it relies upon a php/mysql web host for hosting the images during transit, which I don't have the funds for. Im going to look at free php/mysql hosts, however I don't know how far they can be trusted. The app so far works better than Picswap, as it offers (without force closing) the following:
- Take a photo and swap it with someone elses
- Send a reply photo back to the person who you last received a photo from, and receive reply photos from others
- Press the 'search' button to autofocus the camera
- All commands available by pressing the menu button, they do not take up screen real estate
The app still needs some polishing, as do the PHP scripts that run on a web server to handle the transfer of files, but otherwise its ready to go (if/when I can afford/find a suitable host for it)
On another note:
I ran wireshark and figured out how picswap operates and could easily make a copy of my app that interfaces with picswaps server, although it would lose out on photo replies. When picswap seems to say the image is corrupt, it looks like the image is not actually corrupt, it is just picswap not able to process it. Ive been able to access the picswap network via a php script to upload an image to it, and receive an image from it, and all images that I have received from it load fine (although some are very high resolution, while others are much smaller in size)
wow this will be really cool, i hope it is just as good as on the iPhone, and "your" programm also receive pictures of iphones!
sry 4 my english !
Greeings from germany
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wow this will be really cool, i hope it is just as good as on the iPhone, and "your" programm also receive pictures of iphones!
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It won't send/receive photos with iPhone users as I don't have details of how the iPhone app communicates If you have an iPhone (or have access to one) and you are able to run a packet sniffer on the app, Id be happy to look at modifying my app to interface with the iPhone photoswap server
I have uploaded the neccessary scripts to run from a free web host for now, however I cannot post a link to the APK here yet as a new forum user. As there are (obviously) no users of it yet, there arent many images available (Im seeding some into it myself), but with enough users I don't foresee any issues with a lack of photos being seeded into it.
The apps also not complete, and given that its running off a free web host I don't know how long it will currently run before they shut-off the hosting In which case I would need to recompile it with a new host setup. I have developed the app using the Android 2.1 SDK and tested only on a HTC Legend (unrooted). I don't believe there is anything present that would stop it working on other Android handsets/versions, but as I have not tested on anything else I cannot guarantee compatibility.
As Im a new user, Im not able to post links to outside sites until I have been verified by a moderator, however if you PM me your email address I'll be happy to email you APK file (not sure if Im able to PM links to outside sites?)
This sounds great! I'm excited to see how it turns out. Especially if you can get it to interface with the iPhone users as well. If you could send me the APK file, Ciela, that would be really awesome. I have a Droid, so Ill definitely let you know how well it works with that. Ill PM you my email address now. Looking forward to seeing it in its completed form as well.
Ive sent it across to you now
Apparently the app does not run well on the Samsung Galaxy S, whether or not it is related to the lag issues that SGS has is unknown though. It runs fine on my HTC Legend, and I assume it will run fine on other HTC devices as well. Hopefully works well on other non-HTC devices
If I can get access to an iPhone to run a packet sniffer on Photoswap, I don't imagine it would be difficult to integrate with that.
Hi Ciela,
I've got access to an iPhone with Photoswap, and all the tools I require to dump all the packets you'd ever need from Photoswap's transactions. I've also got access to a Galaxy S and a HTC Desire to use for testing.
If you need a hand, give me a shout and I'll devote a fair chuck of my time to helping you get this off the ground, be it by cloning Photoshop or starting something new from the ground up.
It may be wise that if you decide to clone Photoswap, that you get in touch with the developers and see if they're happy for you to go ahead. It'd sure give the Android Photoswap community a great head-start, being merged with the iPhone community. You never know, they may be happy to divulge the API data to you if they like the idea. Without yet dumping any packets, I'd imagine it's all done over HTTPS though, so Padadaz's co-operation would probably be a good thing.
If you decide to go your own way, I've got about 750GB HDD space free on my Xen node, so could spin you up a Debian VM if you need one.
Shout me if you need anything,
Chris
I too would like a copy to test, I have a rooted Desire and Galaxy Tab
I used to use PhotoSwap when I had an iPhone
Hello everyone. I've a sort of proposal for the developers here, but before I get into that let me first briefly introduce myself:
I'm a communication designer for print, user interface, and illustration that completely advocates everything Android. I've been lurking the Dream development forums here for quite some time, trying to keep up-to-date with the latest ROMs, apps, etc., etc and I fully appreciate everything that goes on here and the endeavors that you devs put yourself through. Amazing stuff, really.
One thing I've noticed is that there are a slew of third-party / beta apps all over these boards, and other places on the internet as well. More often than not, I find myself scouring the cloud just to find a link for these non-market apps, and I usually get referred to them via some obscure site through another site. Despite getting the .apk file or ROM in the end, the process can get to be a bit tedious; especially for incoming users and those new to the Android platform.
My proposal is this: A website with a simple and clean user interface that has direct and succinct navigation with the purpose of consolidating and listing third-party / beta non-market applications into an easy access database. This website database would link these applications and have them be easily downloaded and installed via the Android browser, without having to mount the device.
I've actually come up with a fully-functional concept site, did the branding and everything for it, and also registered a short domain name for quick access while on your G1 or whatever Android device.
Navigate to: http://anda.pk to see what I had in mind, and how the overall layout/concept of the site would work.
I uploaded several .apk files I had backed up as examples for you to see how the database section would function. I also took into account the resolution of most Android phones and made the .apk application database section fit perfectly in the Android browser when in portrait mode right when you the load the site to ensure the best possible user experience when installing these third party apps. When you scroll to the right, you'll see info on what the site is about, and in the footer there are links to the FAQ, the about section, contact, etc.
I had also noted in the about link in the footer that the applications hosted on the download section are in no way accredited to the site, and that credit goes to their rightful developers. My being a communication designer has had the idea of peer collaboration engrained, and as such I give credit it where credit is due.
That said, I hope you guys here and the developers collaborate with me on on this site, possibly help contribute apks, and agree to them being hosted. If anything, I do hope you just embrace the concept, which originally was just going to be a reference for myself and my friends whom I've turned away from the iPhone, S60, and WinMo in favor of Android. I figured since I know the Android community is only going to get bigger, this website concept of mine could be a decent resource to have bookmarked.
Appreciate you reading this wall of text! Do hope to hear some feedback, so let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
Cheers.
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
Been following this on SA and twitter and it's a great idea.
Having the devs here on board would be a fantastic way to get something solid on the go. It's the kind of thing that can really help android become more hackable and useable for the average user...and it just make things easier for the rest of us.
Sounds good to me.
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Credit and accreditation are different things. To be accredited is to be given credentials or official approval. I think you meant "credited".
Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
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i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
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i second that.. it should also have update checks if possible
I was going to complain that I didn't like your site layout, but in portrait mode you only see the left side which lists the apps. I like it.
One thing you might have to be leary of is dealing with apps that are considered warez unless your going to spend the time to verify every app that is uploaded or there has to a method in place.
As well there should be some kind of version control in place. You know what works on 1.1 and what works on 1.5. Obviously almost everybody within the next few weeks/months should be on 1.5, but will all the older apps run on 1.5 or does it really matter or does anybody care? The downloader will care.
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Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
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Seconded. The text is much too light. A darker charcoal shade would be much better.
If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
Some solid input. I'll play around with the color scheme and make some changes later this evening once I get back from class. And I actually do plan on making a mobile wrapper eventually, but as it stands as far as the concept layout goes, the site is best used when in portrait mode for easiest functionality. The rest of the site is to be considered supplemental. I do however, have a lot of things I eventually want to integrate; application tags, search, possibility of user uploaded apk files, etc. But for right now, I'm trying to keep the general site as simple as possible to make the workload on my end less stressful (graduating in 2 weeks).
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If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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That's not necessarily how most version checks work, but that's the simplest method I could think of, and probably one of the easiest to implement.
alapapa said:
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
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Thanks! And I feel I might need some help in the future as far as implementing the features that I want to get working. But I'm not quite sure I understand your question. Are you referring to how I choose which applications get posted onto the site?
i'm a graphic designer and web designer, i'll throw in a helping hand if you want, pm me or whatever.
(think about an android based layout to bring it to the phone like Cough*cydia*cough
very cool and much needed
Xda-dev is great, but there is alot of stuff thats not on the market and they have shown to bow down to the tmobs pressure(ie: tether app) so another place to get apps would be great, and your weppage is beautiful and looks like it would be very finger friendly on the g1, but there is a basic model in linux of repositories(which is about what ur doing) and a simple app to d/l them maybe somebody could just make a market.apk with a modded addy, depending on how much is known about the market and its inner workings... it would be nice to do it as it has been always done....but as I stated above your webdesign is very nice and would work well in the native browser(im heading there now on my g1)
bhang
not a bad idea. I think this is great for all verified apps that are pulled from market...
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
apetit said:
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
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Haha, I just noticed that actually. Now it's all I see. But yeah, I'm hoping to have a few more apps to upload by the end of next week. Revisions to the site are imminent once I get out of this last class.
I love the idea. One bookmark to check up on all the good non-market apps will be much easier than having several bookmarked threads.
Some applications may benefit from having tags such as [beta], [stable], [experimental], [contains-ads], etc.
As others have mentioned once/if user uploads are implemented an app approval system will be crucial to keep the spam at bay. I can see this really taking off.
im a supporter
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im a supporter
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+1 this sounds like a great idea, there was something like this for apps for the dash,mda & sda.
Hi all,
I have a concept for a single update application that would be driven from the AndroidSPIN release database so all developers could use it for ROM, Themes, Applications and anything releases to devices.
If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes to read this post, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://www.androidspin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=260&t=226
I'd really love to get a group together to collaborate and either help design this and/or write an application and back end to do it.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Simon
Sounds like an awesome idea, I'd love to help any way I can, but I dont fit in any of the needed positions for the post. Looking forward to see what develops though
Fantastic idea!
I only ever use XDA so god knows what I'm missing out on elsewhere and to be honest after searching the word android on google and trawling through one crap site after another becomes tiresome so hence the 'XDA only' policy.
Sorry I can't offer any programming skills but you have my support on this project whole heartedly, not that it counts for much I know buh MeH!
Hope you can get this off the ground.
As I mentioned to Simon already, I was thinking about building an update application for my ROM. I love the idea of having an on-phone ROM database, update capability, something that can easily be used by any developer in the community.
Some initial thoughts on functionality:
- Browse ROMs
- Download ROMs to SD Card
- Monitor specific ROMs for updates
- Monitor currently running ROM for updates
I'm willing to lend a hand on the Android side of things, but this will be a large undertaking and we will also need some people to contribute to the UI, server side of things, etc.
I do iPhone UI design for applications now (I don't have an iPhone, but most of my contracts and clients are iPhone based), but let me know and I can whip up anything you guys need UI related.
Send me a PM and I can get the ball rolling on how the functionality can be laid out as well.
Even tho I know I wouldnt be able to help out with this. I know I would love to test this out if you needed it.
Its a great idea!!!
I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Well, of course.
If anything else needs doing, however, I volunteer what spare time I have.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Could be easily done, would require quite a lot of laborious work ripping out all the stuff you wouldn't need though.
I would take a look at this but unfortunately I have another Android project on at the moment which is taking all my development spare time.
@SimonNWalker What sort of backend having you got going? REST? SOAP?
Ups wrong theread
not that it matters (since i kept the source 100% open)....
you have my blessing to tear the cmupdater to shreds if it will give us a unified solution to all our ROM cravings
firefart has done a good job of keeping the code pretty clean so there shouldnt be too many issues with grabbing it
and the new code for the screenshots for themes could probably be used to the advantage of this project with ease
I'm not really interested in a rom updater, but a market replacement with an "upgrade all" feature (à la apt-get / yum) drawing from multiple repositories would be most exciting.
The Cyanogen updater could be used, it just needs some modifications. Stuff like sub-sections and update all
Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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The only other method I would consider, besides JSON, is an advanced and well thought out web-based form that the developer is forced to complete upon uploading a ROM. This would place more burden on the server, but should be relatively easy to attach the provided ROM information to the rom database.
Think: Check boxes for firmware compatibilities, check boxes for device compatibilities, version number, change log, etc.
Maybe something a little like this?
Wow this would be/ is gonna be awsome!
I would suggest also that you can backup your sd card settings (and maybe also sms...) to an ftp server (or some other server you can install on your pc) from this app...
like (incremential) backup>partition>wipe>install update>boot>getbackupback
problem is to get the server adress back after wipe. maybe stored in web database and encrypted with phone imei number? or uploaded as google
whatever...
or just not wiping that single adress
just saying ^^
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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JSON is just a file format. The CM Updater works via a static JSON file that gets updated manually. The way I'd design this (which is what I asked a couple of posts back) is a dynamic web service (probably REST based) which delivered JSON dynamically. Wouldn't be too difficult at all.
As SimonWalker said he's using PHP + MySQL I'm guessing that's already being done.
@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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I know it is open and I don't need to give my blessing for people to use the source. I did so because a lot of people don't feel comfortable using other peoples code without permission, regardless of whether or not its 100% open source.
And as for the 'credit crap'... I don't see you asking for your name to be removed from the 'about' section of the app
I am not asking for any credit
Anyway, lets not get off topic...
Guys, before this becomes Android Open Alliance, the sequel (you all remember how that went), I think we better set up a way to work together first and then toss in the speculative stuff later.
How about starting simple; set up a wave?
I've been trying to get Desire's PDF Viewer to work on a N1 ROM (CM 5.0.5.3) with no luck.
I can start the app but get FC when trying to open a pdf-file.
I pushed the following files:
/system/app/FilePicker.apk
/system/app/PDFViewer.apk
/system/lib/libpdfreader.so
(been trying to install the PDFView.apk separate too)
Did I miss a/some file(s) or do you think it will require more than just pushing some files?
Why bother? Quickoffice (which you can pull out of any of the Modaco custom roms, even the prebaked ones) will handle PDFs and most other text based files
Well Quickoffice kinda suck cause it doesn't always show everthing in a pdf-file (think it converts it to some web format? )
And I want the pinch-to-zoom function ;P
IMO you're better served just using QuickOffice, it should render them out just fine unless they were saved with the "adobe compression scheme and not just optimized. then you'll get odd rendering. As for pinch, I believe theres a mod for that if I'm not mistaken.
Well that might be true, but I can't decide how others save their documents. Several times I haven't been able to view the whole content. For example when I download the timetable for the buss line I can't see the days and where the buss stops - which is kinda worthless.
But my topic isn't about how well QuickOffice works or not, but how to make PDF View from Desire to work on a N1 ROM.
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IMO you're better served just using QuickOffice, it should render them out just fine unless they were saved with the "adobe compression scheme and not just optimized. then you'll get odd rendering. As for pinch, I believe theres a mod for that if I'm not mistaken.
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Please stop posting. It's EXTREMELY frustrating when someone makes a thread and other people try to talk them out of it.
Anyway, on topic, QuickOffice sucks ass. It pixelates the crap out of files when you zoom in. The Desire ROM PDF viewer is the ONLY PDF viewer available for Android that doesn't completely destroy PDF files when zooming in. (And that is including the half dozen PDF viewers on the Market).
Unfortunately no, you cannot export the PDF viewer from Desire onto Stock ROM.
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Please stop posting. It's EXTREMELY frustrating when someone makes a thread and other people try to talk them out of it.
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Really? Well, excuse me for offering an alternative and my opinion. I didn't realized that you were such a prick and that user here weren't allowed to express their thoughts. I'm not trying to "talk him out of it", merely saying, that there is an alternative that will do more, and arguably works just fine with standard files. If you want to know whats more frustrating, its morons like you, who think that they can boss people around. I've probably been involved in more "hacking" and "modding" arena's than you can even think of, and I don't need some self-absorbed narcissist to tell me I'm not allowed to share my thoughts on an open board. So, please, stop posting your stupid derogatory thoughts, which are less than helpful and spurious to say the least.
PS. I don't know what you're doing with QuickOffice, but theres no pixelation or defects for me on any file. Perhaps you should try getting your head out of your bum, that might clear the images on the screen up for you. Also, your comment about QO is offtopic if you bothered reading the post right above yours, and not on topic
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Unfortunately no, you cannot export the PDF viewer from Desire onto Stock ROM.
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Sucks to hear that :/ How come?
Then I guess I have to live with BeamReader, at least I've been able to view the full content of all pdf-files I've tried so far with it.
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Really? Well, excuse me for offering an alternative and my opinion. I didn't realized that you were such a prick and that user here weren't allowed to express their thoughts. I'm not trying to "talk him out of it", merely saying, that there is an alternative that will do more, and arguably works just fine with standard files. If you want to know whats more frustrating, its morons like you, who think that they can boss people around. I've probably been involved in more "hacking" and "modding" arena's than you can even think of, and I don't need some self-absorbed narcissist to tell me I'm not allowed to share my thoughts on an open board. So, please, stop posting your stupid derogatory thoughts, which are less than helpful and spurious to say the least.
PS. I don't know what you're doing with QuickOffice, but theres no pixelation or defects for me on any file. Perhaps you should try getting your head out of your bum, that might clear the images on the screen up for you. Also, your comment about QO is offtopic if you bothered reading the post right above yours, and not on topic
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I have to say (not trying to flame) but I am going to have to agree with Paul on this one. So many times people start a thread such as this one and no where did the guy ask "could you please give me a list of alternative apps I could use" he is strictly wanting to discuss this app and how to get it working on a different rom.
I assure you he knows there are other apps to open PDF files, that was not his issue nor his request.
My two cents
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The Desire ROM PDF viewer is the ONLY PDF viewer available for Android that doesn't completely destroy PDF files when zooming in. (And that is including the half dozen PDF viewers on the Market).
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I've had 0 issues with Beamreader, I use it to check the bus schedules for my town every day, it renders them flawlessly, images and text. QuickOffice F's them up majorly.
I use PDF To Go, which works great performance-wise and it's rendering isn't bad either. I wish it had PTZ though...
I also wish you could get the Desire PDF viewer extracted successfully...
BTW, Quickoffice is a joke...
Cant you just flash the desire rom on the nexus one to get the desire pdf viewer ?
Im not sure, Im just confirming. I too want to flash the nexus one with desire rom, but Im waiting for the final build.
Found a reader named RepliGo Reader which seem to render good. And best of all, it have pinch-to-zoom.