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Rosie tutorials

I kinda looked, but I couldn't find any mention of this. I am running Hero beta4 and just happen to run the tutorial. What do you know, its the Rosie UI, exactly as it appears in all those youtube videos. Except its running on my phone. I kind of thought the person in the youtube video was running Rosie.....it appears that all they were doing is running the tutorial off the Hero build.

It was stated by Haykuro that the videos were just the tutorial. He was trying to make them work for us before all the crap happened.

I installed then unistalled the herob4 build, the facebook stuff crashed and no UI and my ethics were eating away at my soul/ lol not really, kinda...idk...did xdan aplogize? i know the fake roger rom guy won't....does xda have an IRC? it should have a built in jave one...i'm gunna go find out

pinetreehater said:
I kinda looked, but I couldn't find any mention of this. I am running Hero beta4 and just happen to run the tutorial. What do you know, its the Rosie UI, exactly as it appears in all those youtube videos. Except its running on my phone. I kind of thought the person in the youtube video was running Rosie.....it appears that all they were doing is running the tutorial off the Hero build.
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haykuro has video up of him actually running rosie on his g1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRX5N5bte68

Myself, I kind of like the Hero build. I really really like the browser. I think a simple tap in-tap out approach to surfing works best. Some consider the lack of the zoom controls a flaw; I consider it a blessing.
Initially, there were many force closes, but after many reboots, they have mostly gone away and the phone is actually getting snappy. The personalize screen still force closes. The social apps work, except twitter.
Oh, and the browser is I guess broke...some kind of rendering error on most pages..I really don't want to re-flash

pinetreehater said:
Myself, I kind of like the Hero build. I really really like the browser. I think a simple tap in-tap out approach to surfing works best. Some consider the lack of the zoom controls a flaw; I consider it a blessing.
Initially, there were many force closes, but after many reboots, they have mostly gone away and the phone is actually getting snappy. The personalize screen still force closes. The social apps work, except twitter.
Oh, and the browser is I guess broke...some kind of rendering error on most pages..I really don't want to re-flash
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if the browser and bluetooth get fixed this will be the perfect build

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haykuro has video up of him actually running rosie on his g1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRX5N5bte68
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yeah, I've seen that too. Let me clarify since I obviously mis-spoke enough to cause confusion. I'm didn't mean to imply that Haykuro wasn't running Rosie, he obviously had control of the phone. I was just realizing that the Rosie demos were actually already on the Hero build. They're nice to watch.
I really like the visual bookmarks and panning tabs of this build. The rom in general is super sweet. BUT...I cannot get the browser to work. This is a major bummer. Maybe someone significantly more skilled than I will sort this out.

browser seems to be working fine for me on Beta 4.
My biggest problem with this ROM is bluetooth not working...I can't sync it with my car anymore and can't use the handsfree features in the car.
But I HATE the way the older ROMs look...the Black status bar at the top is AWESOME!

pinetreehater said:
yeah, I've seen that too. Let me clarify since I obviously mis-spoke enough to cause confusion. I'm didn't mean to imply that Haykuro wasn't running Rosie, he obviously had control of the phone. I was just realizing that the Rosie demos were actually already on the Hero build. They're nice to watch.
I really like the visual bookmarks and panning tabs of this build. The rom in general is super sweet. BUT...I cannot get the browser to work. This is a major bummer. Maybe someone significantly more skilled than I will sort this out.
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yea i agree..i read in a post on page 2 of developement that twistedumbrella is working on the hero beta..he says he has everything working but bluetooth..and he says its fast...im on beta 4 and its pretty fast because i adb pushed dalvik from ion

the thread by twisted umbrella is closed now

pinetreehater said:
yeah, I've seen that too. Let me clarify since I obviously mis-spoke enough to cause confusion. I'm didn't mean to imply that Haykuro wasn't running Rosie, he obviously had control of the phone. I was just realizing that the Rosie demos were actually already on the Hero build. They're nice to watch.
I really like the visual bookmarks and panning tabs of this build. The rom in general is super sweet. BUT...I cannot get the browser to work. This is a major bummer. Maybe someone significantly more skilled than I will sort this out.
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How exactly is your browser malfunctioning? Force closes or something else?

When i visit mobile pages, everything is great. But as soon as I try to visit a desktop version of a site, then it gives an error. The error message is actually part of the page, and it says:This page contains the following errors: error on line 219 column 26.....xmlparseEntityRef: no name.
The page has been loaded up until first error.

actually, the browser seems to work on wi-fi. But on edge, it will give you the parsing error when loading non-mobile pages. That is odd. I have checked APN settings and they seem ok.
Man, I loathe having to go back to an earlier ROM, I so love the way your history looks in this browser.

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Android and why I want WiMo back

For almost 2 years I used a Touch Diamond. While WiMo is far from perfect in todays world with a bit of tweaking and some extra software I had a device that did what I wanted it to do. Sure, WiMo isnt what you´d call fast but as said, it did what it had to do.
For the past few days I´ve been using android with my new htc legend. I heard a lot of good things about android and that is why I decided to switch. But even after a few days I´m already having a feeling of regret. While android is very fast and finger friendly the OS/apps itself just don't cut it compared to WiMo. About 75% of the things I did on a daily basis with my phone just don't work (properly) on android.
Syncing mail with hotmail is a *****. It for example does not sync read messages so everytime I login with my pc I still have to click all new messages while I already read them on my phone. This worked perfectly with WiMo.
No automatic 3g disconnect. Now this isnt default on WiMo either but there are apps that just disconnect a idle data connection. Now android has a whole bunch of apps like juicedefender but they just dont work properly and are overcomplicated. Just disconnect if I don't use it. Thats all I want. Let apps and whatever connect when they want to and kill the connection when they are done. Simple you'd think but impossible on android it seems.
Youtube is a epic fail. In the exact same place, with the exact same simcard I just can't load a movie. They all stop after 3 seconds and don't load further. Also there is no option for always having HQ. The WiMo app had this and I could always load HQ movies without trouble.
But it gets even worse when it comes to much more practical things. The browser won't save exchange webmail login info. So now I'm expected to loging like 5 times a day to my uni mail by typing my info every time? Not nice.
And what about displaying agenda items? can't do that on the lockscreen. There are apps to do this but not on the htc sense one as far as I've seen. So I have to manually check my agenda which is just a ***** because I'm just to seeing things come up on the homescreen.
Also I can't login to the uni website. You should get a login popup but the android browser doesnt seem to be capable of this. Ofcourse this was no problem at all with a 2 year old browser... So now I can't check schedules and all.
Also there is no way to stream my favorite internet radio station.
Basically I pay 10 euro's a month for internet on my phone but all apps I regulairy use with internet don't work or only work a bit on android.
Don't get me wrong, I love the speed and all but what good is speed to me if I can't use most of the functions that are important to me? What is even more disturbing is that non of the things I want to do are very special. This should all just work but it seems to be far above what android is capable of.
Basically to me android is a disfunctional OS. If the above things would work, I'd love it but now all I got is speed, but no way of doing the things I want.
Nice try, but not quite it.

sjaak1234 said:
Syncing mail with hotmail is a *****. It for example does not sync read messages so everytime I login with my pc I still have to click all new messages while I already read them on my phone. This worked perfectly with WiMo.
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That's hardly Android error - it just seems to be a bug in the mail client app. Maybe yry another one?
No automatic 3g disconnect. Now this isnt default on WiMo either but there are apps that just disconnect a idle data connection. Now android has a whole bunch of apps like juicedefender but they just dont work properly and are overcomplicated. Just disconnect if I don't use it. Thats all I want. Let apps and whatever connect when they want to and kill the connection when they are done. Simple you'd think but impossible on android it seems.
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It's not as simple as it sounds - android has to have an active data connection to enable IM messages as well as gmail imap notifications. Unlike POP3 e-mail accounts where you have to querry the server for new e-mails once in a while, gmail actually sends information to your phone when you get an email. And this wouldn't be possible if the connection was turned off.
And if you don't want to use gmail or gtalk, just disable background data in android's data sync settings and the 3g module won't eat your battery when unneeded. Don't worry, android is much smarter with power management than winMo and the fact that you didn't disable something by hand doesn't mean that it's eating your battery.
It's like GPS - even if it;s turned on in options/on power control wigdet the module isn't physically powered up until an app requests to use it. And when it's done the module powers down again. But still you see people disabling gps support in options after exiting maps believing that it will save some battery, or even requesting an app that would disable the switch on power control wigdet.
So just remember - it's a different OS, it has different rules and the fact that you did something by hand in winMo doesn't mean you have to do it here.
Youtube is a epic fail. In the exact same place, with the exact same simcard I just can't load a movie. They all stop after 3 seconds and don't load further. Also there is no option for always having HQ. The WiMo app had this and I could always load HQ movies without trouble.
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Again, this seems to be a problem with your rom/app version. I (and many other people) don't have any trouble with YT on android.
As for the HQ, it's turned on automatically when you're on wifi, on a gsm connection it defaults to standard quality. Personally i like this behavior but i agree that there should be an option to change that for people with huge/unlimited data plans.
But it gets even worse when it comes to much more practical things. The browser won't save exchange webmail login info. So now I'm expected to loging like 5 times a day to my uni mail by typing my info every time? Not nice.
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Weird, but also not android bug, just the browser. You might want to try some alternatives (like dolphin, skyfire, opera mini)
And what about displaying agenda items? can't do that on the lockscreen. There are apps to do this but not on the htc sense one as far as I've seen. So I have to manually check my agenda which is just a ***** because I'm just to seeing things come up on the homescreen.
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Okay, and since when does WinMo display the agenda without any additional software? But i agree, htc really should make some "upcomming events" widget, and default android could use one as well. For now i use "CalWidget" and i know of "pure calendar widget" (paid). I don't know it they're compatible with sense but it may be worth a try
Also I can't login to the uni website. You should get a login popup but the android browser doesnt seem to be capable of this. Ofcourse this was no problem at all with a 2 year old browser... So now I can't check schedules and all.
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Again, hard to blame android for that. Some alternative browser might help (maybe opera mini?).
Also there is no way to stream my favorite internet radio station.
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There is no way to do that or maybe you just don't know a way to do it? Try DroidLive (it might even have this station in its database) or StreamFurious. Both have usable free versions.
Don't get me wrong, I love the speed and all but what good is speed to me if I can't use most of the functions that are important to me? What is even more disturbing is that non of the things I want to do are very special. This should all just work but it seems to be far above what android is capable of.
Basically to me android is a disfunctional OS. If the above things would work, I'd love it but now all I got is speed, but no way of doing the things I want.
Nice try, but not quite it.
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Well, seems to me that you don't really have a problem with android but you just got screwed by HTC and their customized version of android
If i were you, i'd just look for an unofficial rom. It might actually fix all your problems.
Also, part of your woes seems to be the fact that you knew winMo, knew the tweaks and apps you needed to make the device do what you want. Going over to android is a fresh start where you have to find out everything again. I know, i had similar feelings on a stock rom on my G1 after being a hardcore winMo user But after some research and grabbing a new rom and few extra apps android is way more functional than winMo for me and i don't feel like ever going back.
Just give it a chance and do some research.

Android platform has to mature a lot.
WM without xda is a hell.

You really need to find a new ROM. I've never had one single issue you're talking about.
Edit: And I'm using a myTouch running 1.6.

mr_deimos said:
That's hardly Android error - it just seems to be a bug in the mail client app. Maybe yry another one?
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Could be, though I doubt that. But I might try a different one.
It's not as simple as it sounds
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I know all that. But for me it does not seem to work perfectly. If I disable data connection always on (I never actually completely disable it), it still leaves it open. I checked overnight compared with just totally disabling it and it made a clear difference in the battery charge left. Its not like GPS where the icon actally dissapears when you don't use it but this doesnt happen with 3g so far as I can see it, it still uses more power than when disabling it.
I understand all the google stuff needs it, but I don't use any of it so for me its rather useless.
Again, this seems to be a problem with your rom/app version. I (and many other people) don't have any trouble with YT on android.
As for the HQ, it's turned on automatically when you're on wifi, on a gsm connection it defaults to standard quality. Personally i like this behavior but i agree that there should be an option to change that for people with huge/unlimited data plans.
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I did some more reachers on this and the problems seems to exist on a lot of different models/rom versions. I got the latest 2.1 rom for legend so I should have the latest (v1.5 I believe).
Weird, but also not android bug, just the browser. You might want to try some alternatives (like dolphin, skyfire, opera mini)
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I reacherd a bit more and it seems to be a IIS and android problem. Wm and Iphone have the same problem but they just ignore the IIS message and continue. I tried Opera and it has the same problem. Btw, I think Opera on android is a long way off from Opera on WM. Still missing lots of functions I think.
IIS problem for the website login btw. Not sure why the exchange site doesnt save credentials but that seems to be misconfiguration. For example it wont even work on most desktop browsers either.
Okay, and since when does WinMo display the agenda without any additional software? But i agree, htc really should make some "upcomming events" widget, and default android could use one as well. For now i use "CalWidget" and i know of "pure calendar widget" (paid). I don't know it they're compatible with sense but it may be worth a try
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Yes ofcourse with extra software I will try the apps you posted. Thanks.
There is no way to do that or maybe you just don't know a way to do it? Try DroidLive (it might even have this station in its database) or StreamFurious. Both have usable free versions.
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Thats the problem. They work with their own databases. I just want to load a .pls or m3u file in a player and have it connect.
Well, seems to me that you don't really have a problem with android but you just got screwed by HTC and their customized version of android
If i were you, i'd just look for an unofficial rom. It might actually fix all your problems.
Also, part of your woes seems to be the fact that you knew winMo, knew the tweaks and apps you needed to make the device do what you want. Going over to android is a fresh start where you have to find out everything again. I know, i had similar feelings on a stock rom on my G1 after being a hardcore winMo user But after some research and grabbing a new rom and few extra apps android is way more functional than winMo for me and i don't feel like ever going back.
Just give it a chance and do some research.
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Maybe you are right. I know everything about WM and for me android still has a lot of things beneath its skin I don't know. If the apps I want exist I could fix some of my problems.
But some problems are just android related. The whole website thing is a combination of android and IIS configuration that don't play nice. Nothing HTC can do about this, nor can any custom rom. Its something google needs to fix. Ofcourse, if my uni would change their IIS settings it could also fix the problem but I don't think I can get them to change settings just for me.
For me that really needs to work because its a daily function for me.
Also I wonder if some things can be done. For example in WM you can just select to only use your provider. I still havn't found a way to completely disable roaming on android. Fortunatly its easy to prevent data roaming.

Ventrilo App?

Hey I was wondering if anyone knew or a Ventrilo program for android (HTC Incredible)
I heard of Centrilo for WinMO, but tbh could never get it to work, is there a Vent based program for our phones?
Thanks in advance
conty
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So i found this and I was wondering if anyone knows anyone who could help them, I would LOVE to see this app fully working on a android based phone...
http://www.mangler.org/2010/03/mangler-on-android-whats-the-deal/
Thanks for noticing

Please edit URL using BBcode.

DeeBG said:
Please edit URL using BBcode.
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Why should he edit the URL? Are you using Chrome? I've noticed it likes to fail on forums and when the forum shortens URLs and puts the "..." in place of the text it has taken out, chrome will think the ... is part of the actual URL.
That along with a few other problems Chrome had given me, has made me switch back to Firefox.
Anyways, here's the link.
Apparently the company is having problems finding a Android/Java developer.
It was posted in March, and there had been one reply by someone interested. So I'm not sure if someone has taken this project on or not.

Anyone know anymore of a Ventrilo app coming?

codybear said:
Why should he edit the URL? Are you using Chrome? I've noticed it likes to fail on forums and when the forum shortens URLs and puts the "..." in place of the text it has taken out, chrome will think the ... is part of the actual URL.
That along with a few other problems Chrome had given me, has made me switch back to Firefox.
Anyways, here's the link.
Apparently the company is having problems finding a Android/Java developer.
It was posted in March, and there had been one reply by someone interested. So I'm not sure if someone has taken this project on or not.
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He fixed the link (see edit), but I think the link issue may have been fixed in the latest Chrome (if it supports WebM it should work, but I am stuck using Firefox myself for various reasons even though it still has memory link issues, esp. with certain plugins =p).
contagous, as far as Ventrilo/TeamSpeak/etc, what cody said still stands. Because they choose to stay closed-source there isn't even a way for Android developers to "take a whack at it". Part of the issue is that some of the codex they use are copyrighted themselves, but it's mostly an issue of them being closed-source. I know how cool it'd be to be in a game and have your buddies on a on your phone (either via speakerphone or even better, a bluetooth headset), but based on what I know we won't see it soon.

DeeBG said:
He fixed the link (see edit), but I think the link issue may have been fixed in the latest Chrome (if it supports WebM it should work, but I am stuck using Firefox myself for various reasons even though it still has memory link issues, esp. with certain plugins =p).
contagous, as far as Ventrilo/TeamSpeak/etc, what cody said still stands. Because they choose to stay closed-source there isn't even a way for Android developers to "take a whack at it". Part of the issue is that some of the codex they use are copyrighted themselves, but it's mostly an issue of them being closed-source. I know how cool it'd be to be in a game and have your buddies on a on your phone (either via speakerphone or even better, a bluetooth headset), but based on what I know we won't see it soon.
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lol thanks, i was wondering if the linux version that was open source, someone would create something with that.
oh and this has nothing to do with games , i speak to my family on vent a lot, because we can all be in the same place and chat. See they are all back in UK, and im in Seattle WA
Anyways thanks, and maybe one day

Make them get Skype then =p, I believe you can do voice conferences in there (I have the hardest time getting my friends to install Skype, they always say "Well not a lot of people I know use it", to which I often reply, "That's the problem! Just download it and get the ball rolling!" and then bang my head up against a solid object for a few minutes =p.

Everyone has Skype, Skype is good but everyone all in one place without push to talk to crazy, BUT BUT check this out
http://androidforums.com/android-developers/44723-ventrilo-android-lets-make-happen.html
They did it, and it works amazing, its still only in alpha testing but its awsome

they have a test version to download works fairly well too its a bit loud on the receiving side but for the most part good.
Link:
http://www.mangler.org/download/#android

Very nice, I had not come across this alternative but it seems to have a really good flow going (I like that they support Android 1.5 - 2.2 already). I am going to setup a VMWare install tonight on my 8GB flashdrive that will be my Android workstation, I'll lend these guys any help I can.

DeeBG said:
Very nice, I had not come across this alternative but it seems to have a really good flow going (I like that they support Android 1.5 - 2.2 already). I am going to setup a VMWare install tonight on my 8GB flashdrive that will be my Android workstation, I'll lend these guys any help I can.
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Sounds awsome

ICS Browser Crashing

I don't really know if anyone has had a similar issue but I figured I'd try to at least not feel completely alone. Without fail, if I navigate to www.grantland.com on my phone it will "load" about halfway and then crash back to home. I've found the stock browser com.android.browser does this on some sites but obviously not all. I'm guessing that it is something that their website is attempting to do that the browser doesn't exactly like. It also happens on Dolphin HD. I've attempted to logcat the error, but either I'm not trying to capture the right information or it just doesn't want to give it to me.
I've tried "logcat WebCore:V *:S" "logcat browser:V *:S" and "logcat com.android.browser". I believe the first two are aiming to capture any javascript that is happening. At any rate the only information I could get is on the last version. I've posted that on pastebin here http://pastebin.com/rjgDHT4e. There is a longer version of the logcat, but this was about the only worthwhile information I could find.
I'm running AOKP Milestone 6 Build 5. It has also happened on CM9.1 R7 and R8
From what I've read it could be just a general bug in the android browser
I *hope* it happens to everyone else and not just me, but there's always the chance that I'm completely off the reservation and one step closer to breaking my phone.

Looks like it crashed in libIMGegl.so -- so, at least for me under Boat Browser it seems to be pretty low level.
It doesn't surprise me that most browsers behave the same as most reuse the sysyem-supplied rendering engines.
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jeffsf said:
Looks like it crashed in libIMGegl.so -- so, at least for me under Boat Browser it seems to be pretty low level.
It doesn't surprise me that most browsers behave the same as most reuse the sysyem-supplied rendering engines.
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I kinda figured that on the browsers. Same thing with SMS apps. Basically just an add on to the base app for more functionality or options. I presume since it is fairly low level its just something I'll have to deal with unless I figure out a way to delve in to that. Experience in that area isn't high. Always looking to learn though.
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Same thing happens here https://viewmypaycheck.intuit.com/ lol

While not all website operators are receptive, reminding them that mobile access is critical to their business and there are more Android devices out there than iPhones sometimes precipitates change.

The recent (and multiple) changes in newer official Gapps

Let me say first this- is NOT a tinfoil hat-style thread. I know data gets collected and that is not really the concern I have here. I am more interested in what seems to be an attempt at monopolizing users' devices. What I am trying to start a discussion on is the recent changes in just about every Google-produced apk update and the changes these updates implement into the Android environment. Take GBoard for example....this recent update took an excellent keyboard and added several features to it that are frankly, redundant and unnecessary. Rendering is better in Chrome or Firefox and with "Now on Tap", Google search widget, Google Now, and the browsers themselves this redundancy is borderline meaningless and seems more like bloatware intended to promote people to use google over any other search engine. Android System Webview is almost as meaningless. There is no reason to have an un-configurable web interface coded into every app when it makes more sense to just use a browser with more feature-rich abilities. I could see it maybe useful on slow devices, but anyone with a Qualcomm dual-core or better should not need it.
Then on the other end of the spectrum they have Google Now Launcher, which has not been updated in over a year and is extremely boring in its customizability. NowLauncher has been ignored even though it's the core of the interface. It's as if they are just bored and instead push updates in order to make people feel like things are new, when in fact many of these updates are really downgrades in functionality by causing the operating system to feel schizophrenic.
Now I am certain some will agree and probably more will disagree, but I am finding myself simply disabling or uninstalling more and more of google's totally revamped "upgraded" apps. The level of device synergy they are trying to accomplish appears to be doing the opposite and creating solutions for problems that really didn't exist. These things may pose security issues, but again that is the least of my concern.
It kinda makes me feel like Google's change in direction since the drop of the Nexus line has caused further alienation of those who loved Android for being simple yet customizable. Does anyone out there agree that Google needs to calm down a bit with these changes and maybe consider that add-ons are not improvements? I know one thing for sure- it's beginning to drive me towards AOSP and third party alternatives. I appreciate any and all input. Thanks.

The Now Launcher hasn't been updated because they moved to the Pixel launcher, I guess.
I honestly kinda like the Pixel launcher a lot better than Now launcher, though I don't use either of them. I did try them, but I prefer Nova still.
As for the keyboard, I think what they did was to make stuff more convenient, or at least try it.
The keyboard browser wasn't made to replace an actual browser. It's just for really small searches.
I also find it kinda neat.
I myself don't use Google Now, nor Google Assistant. I don't even have the Google app installed.
So being able to do a quick search right from the keyboard could prove useful in this scenario.
And I'm pretty sure I saw a switch to turn off the search option, so you can still have the old-school keyboard while still having the new features (multilingual predictions).
But I'm not using their keyboard either. It doesn't really have what I need.
Most Google apps don't suit my needs, so I opt not to use them. And that's everybody can do. They aren't forced to use them. Sure, they may come pre-installed on devices, but I'm almost certain that you can disable them if you don't need of use them.