I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
Also it could be radio and what most likely is the signal strength. As weaker the signal, as more power required to compensate.
WAAAAHHHH! Don't buy a smart phone then.
I get a full days use. About 2 hours of music playing, signed into an IM client and do some msg and talking and still have 75% at the end of the day.
My guess that its your rom, but i am betting you didn't change the setting in HTC's task manager.
Go to Settings > system > Task manager and change the close action button actually close the buttom. The default action for WM task manager and HTC task manager is to minimize or hide the apps.
So let's say i open WMPlayer, Google Maps, Contacts, Text, Microsoft word. I hit the X, but if i don't change that setting, when i press the X, those programs are still running consuming battery and memory.
Try making sure no unneeded tasks are running and update your radio to 1.14.25.05, and Da_G's 6.5 rom and lets see how ya do next week.
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Yo PwnCakes193..
I feel yur agony.. I used to experience shi tty battery life too.. My raphael can only sustained for like 5 hours.. without battery draining applications like music player even running..
However, Things took a turn when i flashed my raphael to the following rom and radio:
ROM Version: ROMeOS v1.95.4 WWE
Radio: 1.12.25.19 (With matching rilphone version)
It is so much better now !! I have calls and sms coming in while Garmin GPS is running for like an hour with battery dropping only 15% from 100% to 75%... !! And i **** u not.. And by the way.. my raphael's been with me for like 5 months now.. I'm loving it more each day..
Good luck and hav fun!
Too advanced for you?
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
I echo what's been said in above posts and would add as a suggestion only to try the new htc rom with the 1.14.xx radio both are the latest from htc. Boring I know, but very stable. Don't throw your device away without trying it. The custom roms can be frustrating as they can be unstable at times, but very fun to tweak and experiment with.It sounds like yourmore a user who wants stability over the rest. Go to htc site and search for latest rom, try that 1.14 radio and report back.
I use a 1800 mAh battery in my pro and I always charge everynight. Not a big deal. I also have prolly less than the 75% you reported at the same time, another not a big deal. "it is what it is" You can adapt or you can get a diff phone. I have an LG dumb phone my work supplies me for calls only, that battery lasts 2 weeks . LOL!!
wow, harsh words.
It's not like this complaint is an isolated one. There are other forums out there(AT&T, and Howard) that have the same observations about battery life. To say that it is a portable pc and that someone should be happy with 6-8 hours of battery life is pretty silly too. It is a smartphone, like the blackberry, like the treo, like the blackberry. And when people complained about the battery life of the Iphone, it's not like everyone said, deal with it. Apple released another firmware to try and remedy this. Blackberrys seem to go for a couple if not more days without charging with 3G, push email etc running, so why would this not be expected from the Fuze?
I own both the Tilt and the Fuze and find I can squeeze out about 3 days with push email, a bluetooth headset, about an hour or two a day of listening to music through the headset and 3G enabled. The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the tilt, so wouldn't it be logical to think i should be able to do the same with this product? I have flashed several different roms and radios(with the rilphone.dll) and right now cannot get past 8 hours of usage on it. I thought it was the radio but I have tested it without a sim in it and get the same results. So either the battery is faulty, or it just stinks.
I am going through troubleshooting it right now, and based on some helpful hints on other forums, am trying to discharge the battery fully in hopes that it resets the battery guage.
I think helpful posts, like those that say try a new radio/rom are good ways to respond. Saying "go get an Iphone" or "this is a ppc, deal with the battery" are not helpful to people who search the forums for solutions.
Just my 2(maybe a lot more) cents
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Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
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Really? Listen a**hole, I know what I'm dealing with. I'm running the 21210 build of 6.5 that I cooked in Da_G's Kitchen with the .20M1 radio AND RIL. Yes, I know i'm being picky, but a phone should last at least a little while, no matter what. I get a full day charge, but just texting and no calling, on EDGE, I should easily be down to 85% in 24 hours. I know it's a small PC, but that is no excuse. I am a mainstream tech savvy person, and I mod/hack everything I own, use everything to it's full potential. I don't want an iPhone because its an overhyped and, in my opinion, horrible phone. I was never trying to look cool when I bought this phone. I even helped a few members out here when they bricked their phones, and I taught a few how to cook ROMs!
Next time think before you post, you troll.
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I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
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I have tried almost all the ROMs, my favorite being At0mAng's, but he's gone now . I'm cooking my own 6.5 ROMs now
The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the Tilt? I guess according to the order that ATT purchased their HTC phones, but probably not according to HTC...
The HTC Touch Pro is the successor of the Diamond. Just because ATT replaced the Tilt with the Fuze does not mean its the successor. Tmobile is calling the TP2 the "Wing 2" in America, does that mean it's the successor to the wing?? NO. If anything most hardcore HTC follower will agree the TP2 is the successor to the Tilt (kinda obvious isn't it?).
Regardless of what order they came in, or what phone its supposed to replace, the Fuze has a bigger processor, twice as much ram, and twice as high resolution LCD. Its hard to compare the 2 on battery life. My Tilt gets a faster GPS lock, and the battery lasts way longer, than the Fuze. Does that mean its better? NO.
If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
If you have an honest question where you need help then please ask, and im sure someone will help you get MUCH better battery life! All i really meant by what i was saying before i got sidetracked, is that if you don't like your HTC products, or it doesn't fit your lifestyle like you thought it would, then take it back, and get something else. Just don't come into a HTC forum, and start badmouthing products, because that will get you nowhere, and you should have been expecting the answer you got.
I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
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Where'd you get badass? I just said I hacked/modded a lot of the things I owned.... I haven't gotten into the processing specs and all that stuff yet...
And since when does being a troll have to do with what time you joined? I have yet to troll on this forum, I have either asked questions, or have helped people who are having trouble....
jjjacksonjjj said:
I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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I hear that, I can relate as I've had my s**t jumped a few times on this forum as well and I always learned from it. I'm not an expert at all and thats the reason I come here to learn about my various wm devices, currently the touch pro. I undestand the issues especially with battery and stability.Except for battery I don't have any complaints that you mention. My RF which I value as a number 1 priority is very good. No dialer issues here either. I also think it would be nice to have perfectly operating devices right out of the box and considering what we pay for these things, it seems we should get better. In my experience all the wm devices I've ever had have had inadequate batteries. It's just the way it is. I did not expect my pro to be any diff. in that regard. I got it anyway and bought a better battery. In the past few weeks I've tried various 6.5 roms with differing results and none were very stable. It's the way it is and I don't really expect it to be better, but I love it anyway. I've used symbian s60 nokia devices and thought some of the e series have outstanding stability and battery life. So I have choices.
My choice is to continue learning and I'll get extended batteries when I think I need it. When I get tired of the wm BS I'll go back to E series for awhile.
For anyone who is calling themselves proficient in wm and the various ins and outs of flashing and obviously has some experience apparently, I find it kinda strange that they would be surprised by the battery life. Stability can be had from diff rom combos. But bad battery life is a given with wm. we get used to it and move on or go check out e series. It also rocks! Lotsa choices.
Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
wow, boys, calm down. *****ing at each other is oh so productive. maybe we could try to HELP each other out and be friends! just a thought...
i'm getting maybe 12 hours on a full charge running the leaked att stock rom and it's really starting to tick me off. i bought a portable power pack that can give me a full charge on its full charge (Xpal harry II) but i want to be able to get AT LEAST a full day without having to pop it onto a usb or wall charger for 20 minutes. im thinknig of flashing to da_g's or natf's 6.1 roms witihn the next couple weeks hoping that they'd be able to improve my battery life. i'm pretty happy with the radio and i'm in boston so no major signal issues there. maybe it's just a sh*tty rom draining my battery?
and now that i wasted 10 minutes reading this thread, i'm giong to go back to studying for finals. joy.
EDIT: I installed the fuzeberry theme a week or two ago and that's caused a TF3D problem (see my thread here about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511760) but is there any chance that THIS is also killing my battery? hate the att manila but i might have to revert back if it gets me more hours :\
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
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****, sorry mate I can't remember now, I changed a setting in the registry and installed a keyboardincrease cab? Maybe others on here will be able to point you in the right direction. I am a noob at this type of stuff really and just follow instructions that members on here suggest - once the problems fixed I forget about it.
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try using a 6.5 ROM I cooked now, it's doing fairly well, i would Hard-SPL, then try and flash a new radio or ROM, should help you out, turn off 3G, which should help. Also download advanceconfig and turn on the power saving items there.
FWIW, I have never had good results with the gps, but since I flashed the htc 5.05.401.1 with radio: 1.14.25.05 I now get very quick lock times. Also battery is a bit better even tho I'm running shell3.
So I recently made the plunge and rooted my Nexus S. It was well worth the trouble. But maybe not for the reason most people might think.
Obviously, my aim was to try out different ROMs and get more power/battery life/functionality out of my phone. I agree on the functionality, but I have great doubts about the other two.
For the last week I've been testing Cynogenmod against Inf1nity against NSCollab and the results have been poor on most accounts.
Improved battery life:
Absolutely no way. My battery life has never been worse. No matter what I try, the battery drain is pretty bad. Not helped by the fact that in all three ROMs there are serious bugs which means auto-syncing even though it's switched off and constant notifications, even though they are all switched off. And that's just on the surface. System processes are going berserk on all three ROMs for no good reason at all.
Improved speed:
If there is, it's a bloody small one. In my opinion, it's quite the opposite. Maybe there's a performance improvement in certain areas, like gaming or audio. But in general the phone was prone to sluggish behaviour, no matter what settings were selected. Only Infinity felt snappy. In all cases you have to remove whatever non-stock launcher was on there and switch off many things.
The only thing you get from all of them is more functionality. But to be honest, I'm back on the stock 2.3.4, rooted and flashed the kernel and my phone is the snappiest it's ever been and so is the battery life. And there was no ROM in sight to get it there.
I'm new to this, so if I have been testing the wrong ROMs then please do point me in the right direction. If not, I'm just going to stick to my rooted phone and customize the parts I want when I have a need for it.
For some reason there is often a disparity between the experience that one individual has with a ROM, and that which another person may have. Even on the same make/model device and the same ROM, peoples 'luck' may be completely different. Perhaps it's the interaction of ROM + Apps installed, configuration, usage, variations at the silicon level...sheer luck...? Who knows?
My device hates Stock ROMs but excells with CM7, whereas others with the same device often have the opposite experience. That's why we're lucky to have a diverse dev culture and usually many options available to us. You just have to find one that fits.
Well, I'm not giving up, that's for sure The Nexus S compatible ROMs seem to be quite new, so I'm hoping future versions will show improvement.
In the meanwhile I have to applaud the community spirit and the work some people put in this. Just a pity it's not translating into results on my phone quite yet. I hope to see a real lean and fast ROM run on my phone soon.
I have just upgraded from an unbranded Desire I used on Voda UK to a Voda UK Sensation and I am very disappointed.
The Sensation has the potential to be a fantastic phone, but for a few really annoying faults.
1) The Phone network reception is terrible. In my house I have a very good 2g Voda reception and quite good 3g reception (One of the reasons I went with Voda years ago) I have NEVER had a problem with any other phone on Voda in my house before until now. The sensation will one minute show 3-4 bars of 2g signal, if I then pick it up and start using it, browsing the web etc, the phone will often go to no service. When I am talking on the phone in my house the person at the other end constantly complains that I am cutting out.
I have read about the alleged “grip of death” problems the sensation has if you hold the phone at the top with the Wi-Fi signal dropping and mine does that as well. I think the GSM/3G aerial is at the bottom of the case which is exactly where most people hold their phone normally and holding it defiantly affects the mobile signal as well as Wi-Fi a LOT more then I have experienced with any other phone to the point of it losing the signal in a strong area.
I am getting a replacement from Voda next week as I am still within the 7 days. I really hope this one is better with regard to GSM/3G signal.
2) I am getting the well documented problem with the Widgets (even the HTC power widget) intermittently getting coloured lines through it. It may be fine for a day then one starts and then they all start ending up in the widgets becoming unread able. To clear the problem you either have to remove the widget and then re place it on the home screen or change the scene and then back again or reboot the phone (rebooting does not always work, seems to be pot luck). I have read that HTC say that this is to do with 3rd party software not being written for QHD resolution!! Well HTC as the Sensation is, as far as I am aware, the first phone to have a QHD screen, how many f**king apps do they think will be written for QHD screens?? This is not the case anyway as sometimes they display fine for a day or so and sometimes their own power widget suffers!! Come on HTC, it is your responsibility to make sure at least 3rd party software written for earlier resolutions display without corruption, I can understand when apps display small and don’t take up the whole screen but this is a BUG.
3) I am also getting another commonly reported problem. Sense almost always reboots after installing/removing/moving an app and sometimes after exiting an app. I have read that people have put this down to the new sense being quite memory hungry and the device can shut Sense down sometimes if memory runs low??? WHAT ??? This version of sense was written by HTC for THIS PHONE!!! How can this phone not have enough RAM memory to deal with it??? I experimented with custom ported versions of this sense on my rooted Desire and sense would very, very rarely reboot, but I accepted those very few occasional sense reboots as they were custom roms with ported software not designed for that phone also modified to use the SD card for internal storage to overcome the Desires lack of internal storage. Again this is a BUG, possibly a memory leak somewhere?
I really do not expect these sort of serious, normal use affecting BUGS on a stock rom from HTC.
I have received the OTA update 1.35.161.2 but note that it isn’t quite the latest version released by HTC but I suppose it’s the Voda version, but this hasnt solved these problems.
I really hope HTC sort the software problems out ASAP, as there really is a lot to like about the Sensation, the screen looks fantastic with text/pictures and videos and the speed of the phone is very impressive and the new sense is very good software if these bugs are sorted.
But if my replacement Sensation has the same signal performance as this one, I am afraid it will be back to the slow, small screened desire for me as at least I can use it properly and generally reliably as a phone!!!!
Rant over!!!
Honestly... I have not had a single problem with my Sensation. If I were you, I would exhange it for a new one. Probably a defective unit. Go to a different store when you exchange it.
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Honestly... I have not had a single problem with my Sensation. If I were you, I would exhange it for a new one. Probably a defective unit. Go to a different store when you exchange it.
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Same here..this phone is phenomenal
Ok, thanks for replys, hoping that replacment unit has at least better signal performance.
So you guys dont ever get problems with colour bars running though widgets or sense rebooting? Lots of people have posted about these problems with no answers so far. Do you have many Widgets on your home screen? I have seen a few people who posted that they eventually ended up removing the widgets. I supose if you dont have any/very few widgets the problem will not/may not occur, but for me the widgets are one of the great things about Andriod and Sense and makes them better than an iphone running iOS!
That's a bummer! Just exchange it...I've had no issues with mine!
I have EXACTLY the same software issues with my Sensation on T-Mobile USA. My reception is fine, I haven't had any problems there, but the colored lines on non HTC widgets and sense reloading after installing, uninstalling, moving to SD card or after playing a game/surfing for a long period definitely happens. This is my second replacement and it was better the first few days and now is doing the same thing that was happening before. Some days Sense doesn't reload much, maybe once. Other days, like yesterday, it reloads close to 10 times. I'm hoping HTC fixes it with the update that is supposed to come in August, in the mean time I installed LauncherPro Plus. It isn't having any of the problems the HTC launcher did. I miss the Sense home screen a lot, but not having a few HTC widgets is a small price to pay for the phone working correctly.
ru using Advanced task killer/manager or any other battery saving applications like Dr.battery or any other things like memory boost,ram booster if so please remove it.. even i had the same color bar problem in the widgets i had removed the above applications now its all fine no problem at all...
it might be another problem than just them apps. I've had both of the apps you've mentioned and never once had the application problems that the op mentioned.
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I have just upgraded from an unbranded Desire I used on Voda UK to a Voda UK Sensation and I am very disappointed.
The Sensation has the potential to be a fantastic phone, but for a few really annoying faults.
1) The Phone network reception is terrible. In my house I have a very good 2g Voda reception and quite good 3g reception (One of the reasons I went with Voda years ago) I have NEVER had a problem with any other phone on Voda in my house before until now. The sensation will one minute show 3-4 bars of 2g signal, if I then pick it up and start using it, browsing the web etc, the phone will often go to no service. When I am talking on the phone in my house the person at the other end constantly complains that I am cutting out.
I have read about the alleged “grip of death” problems the sensation has if you hold the phone at the top with the Wi-Fi signal dropping and mine does that as well. I think the GSM/3G aerial is at the bottom of the case which is exactly where most people hold their phone normally and holding it defiantly affects the mobile signal as well as Wi-Fi a LOT more then I have experienced with any other phone to the point of it losing the signal in a strong area.
I am getting a replacement from Voda next week as I am still within the 7 days. I really hope this one is better with regard to GSM/3G signal.
2) I am getting the well documented problem with the Widgets (even the HTC power widget) intermittently getting coloured lines through it. It may be fine for a day then one starts and then they all start ending up in the widgets becoming unread able. To clear the problem you either have to remove the widget and then re place it on the home screen or change the scene and then back again or reboot the phone (rebooting does not always work, seems to be pot luck). I have read that HTC say that this is to do with 3rd party software not being written for QHD resolution!! Well HTC as the Sensation is, as far as I am aware, the first phone to have a QHD screen, how many f**king apps do they think will be written for QHD screens?? This is not the case anyway as sometimes they display fine for a day or so and sometimes their own power widget suffers!! Come on HTC, it is your responsibility to make sure at least 3rd party software written for earlier resolutions display without corruption, I can understand when apps display small and don’t take up the whole screen but this is a BUG.
3) I am also getting another commonly reported problem. Sense almost always reboots after installing/removing/moving an app and sometimes after exiting an app. I have read that people have put this down to the new sense being quite memory hungry and the device can shut Sense down sometimes if memory runs low??? WHAT ??? This version of sense was written by HTC for THIS PHONE!!! How can this phone not have enough RAM memory to deal with it??? I experimented with custom ported versions of this sense on my rooted Desire and sense would very, very rarely reboot, but I accepted those very few occasional sense reboots as they were custom roms with ported software not designed for that phone also modified to use the SD card for internal storage to overcome the Desires lack of internal storage. Again this is a BUG, possibly a memory leak somewhere?
I really do not expect these sort of serious, normal use affecting BUGS on a stock rom from HTC.
I have received the OTA update 1.35.161.2 but note that it isn’t quite the latest version released by HTC but I suppose it’s the Voda version, but this hasnt solved these problems.
I really hope HTC sort the software problems out ASAP, as there really is a lot to like about the Sensation, the screen looks fantastic with text/pictures and videos and the speed of the phone is very impressive and the new sense is very good software if these bugs are sorted.
But if my replacement Sensation has the same signal performance as this one, I am afraid it will be back to the slow, small screened desire for me as at least I can use it properly and generally reliably as a phone!!!!
Rant over!!!
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I'd owned a few android phones (7) including LG P 990, according to my exp they couldn't beat sensation even it was temp root and stock ROM. But it is really hot (battery)
I flash like 3 times a day, sometimes 5...I am a flash-maniac, addicted, whatever you want XD
now, does flashing too much damage the phone or decreare our device's life? there's a lot of read/write/format/flashflashflash in every operation!!
I had an hd2 before, and it died because of a bad block...like bricked...and I flashed it so much...maybe I exaggerated XD
so, what you think?
Hi I flash a lot too . Not 3 xs a day but often if there's an update or mod or something I want. I've flashed so much my USB port on my device is kinda loose .(Already have the part to fix just need to take to the shop) but let's be honest here, I'm sure it does decrease life of the device some, how could it not? But I say have fun while you can and enjoy! Maybe cut back a bit from 3 times a day .haha
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, mugen battery. please press thanks if I helped in anyway.
There are devices that have known problems with this. Like the MyTouch 4G for instance had some of it's devices built with a bad batch of emmc chips that eventually failed like 10% of the time and flashing was ultimately determined to be overstressed by flashing. Sometimes they would fail quickly like after 2-3 flashes. Sometimes they would fail after 1000 flashes. Sometimes they never failed.
The Sensation isn't known to have bad chips that fail under stress at a regular rate. So you're okay.
Now that's not to say that your particular phone didnt just happen to get the 1 bad chip in the batch of a million of them. That's possible with any peice of electronics equipment (or anything else for that matter). But it's not a common problem on the Sensation. It is a common problem on some devices.
It you want to learn more about the possibility of it start here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081243
Or do a search in ght eMyTouch4G forum for "bad emmc" and you'll have lots of threads that will talk about how they fail.
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Going by iQOO track record do not expect any development or custom roms in future. It would be good for 2 years then you'll have update to new phone. Do not expect any development. Like LOS, Even simple bootloader unlock and root will not be possible.
This is actually true for almost all Android phones these days. I want able to use my S9+ Street 2 years because it's battery decayed pretty fast. My wife's phone's displayed died. She had the S9 and we bought both phones together.
Updated and custom ROMs aren't that great these days because of plethora of phones and great devs of this forum also can't keep up with whether to fix issues with current build or to push next update build.
I used to own an HTC Wildfire S and its devs were pretty mind blowing. It used to have great ROMs which were much faster than stock. But these days stock ROMs are also good enough if you disable some bloatware and irrelevant system apps.
I have disabled some system apps using adb and am not facing any kind of adware notifications and the phone is smooth as ever.
I never even tried to root my S9+ also since I never found any good reason to lose Knox and DRM capabilities just for a little bit faster but still bugged ROM since I had the Exynos version.
With stock I prefer the peace of mind.
I've shared all my thoughts with you on this, now choice is yours.
Quite right. And will there be something significant better then screen 120hz, 12gb ufs 3.1, incredible fast charging, 120 watt 18 minutes fully charged, exceptional good battery management, at least 36hrs with full use of phones possibilities. Processor SD 888, good for the next 4 years I think.
With the increasing complexity of hardware, various chips (additional display chip in Iqoo 7), multiple cameras, etc. it will be difficult for custom rom devs to keep up with future of android. We will have to learn to live with Stock ROMs.
I suggest to keep full backup of each stock ROM before upgrade so that you have option to roll back incase you dont like performance/features of upgraded ROM.
Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
The device's heating issue is a major concern. if a gaming phone gets toasted frequently it won't last longer
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Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
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I agree but I change my device every 6 to 8 month so no worries and I get try new features comes with an update
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Always have an external storage or Hardisk to save your files or if you loose your device you might miss a lot of data. I always back my data and keep my device free