I am still extremely new to rooting and I have not yet even installed a Rom. However, my SGN10.1 wifi is now rooted. I installed Titanium Backup Pro and I saw that there was an option to backup to Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. I figured that if I wasn't using one of these cloud services for my PC related activities, that I might as well make use of it for my Android related needs.
I further assumed that I might as well make use of the cloud, rather than first taking up storage space on my SD card. So a simple question: Is this a good approach for backing up or is there a good reason why I should also be using the available space on the external SD card?
Placing them on external SD would be better (along with a cloud backup if you prefer.)
I always do it on SD card itself as it is easy and I don't have to download / upload hundreds of mbs of data to cloud. If you have a good wifi connection and a reliable server, then do it on the cloud itself.
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I am still extremely new to rooting and I have not yet even installed a Rom. However, my SGN10.1 wifi is now rooted. I installed Titanium Backup Pro and I saw that there was an option to backup to Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. I figured that if I wasn't using one of these cloud services for my PC related activities, that I might as well make use of it for my Android related needs.
I further assumed that I might as well make use of the cloud, rather than first taking up storage space on my SD card. So a simple question: Is this a good approach for backing up or is there a good reason why I should also be using the available space on the external SD card?
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the Mega storage seems to work good. I had trouble on the other ones figuring out how to upload a folder. Not the case with Mega EAZY PEAZY
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the Mega storage seems to work good. I had trouble on the other ones figuring out how to upload a folder. Not the case with Mega EAZY PEAZY
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Since originally posting my question, I have installed different roms onto my Razr Maxx, as well as my Note 10.1. I have used the ext SD card for nano backup, however with Titanium, the cloud backup isn't so bad. The only other cloud settings that I see are for Dropbox and Google Drive, so I do not see how Mega can be used.
I am not familiar with Mega, but I just did some research about it and based upon what I read, I wouldn't be in a great hurry to use it. I do have plenty of storage with Dropbox (over 50 gb), as well as the availability of other cloud storage services. Then there is always the trusty USB cable to the PC.
I suppose that as long as we can keep our external backups organized, then nowadays it probably doesn't make that much of a difference where things are just as long as they are secure, safe, and reliable. Redundancy is also a great idea. I learned that years ago working for a large banking institution. The internal audit staff walked in unannounced one day and advised me that my department was under an unannounced systems audit and that I had to immediately put my backup systems into operation, which meant retrieving offsite rotating stored disk packs and driving 50 miles to the back up site. Fortunately everything worked! So it's not enough to just backup, you have to test it every so often too.
It only seems to backup some apps if that even. Do I need to do some other settings? Happens on all 3 cloud services.
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I just bought the Nexus S, but I fear the process of importing all my apps and settings from the N1 to the NS. I have about 80 apps, approx 20 paid apps and 20gb used on the external 32Gb memorycard. Of course, I will need to trim down the data amount to lower than 16Gb that is available on the NS. All of the apps that can, are installed on the SD card.
I have both a regular gmail account and a paid Google Apps account that are synked with my N1
So, must I set aside a whole working day manually re-installing all apps and reenter licence codes & settings & synk settings, or can I simple log in to the new phone and experience - like magic - that everything is transferred wirelessly? (I would consider believing in Santaclaus if that happened)
i moved from hero to nexus s and had the same problem, i used titanium backup to restore most of my apps+data, it will automatically link the apps to the market and install them on the next best place (for example it was on ext on my hero but got moved to internal on my nexus s)
but rom-/systemapp-settings had to be reentered manually because the rom got corrupted when i tried to restore my settings (for example google account)
hope this could help you out a bit.
I've gone through 4 phones and my paid apps have followed me. The non paid apps don't though. I definitely recommend Titanium Backup for those as well. Especially if you have game saves or something. I don't mind re-entering information for like connecting to my server but game saves that would piss me off to lose.
The free version I think you have to restore them individually but the paid version you can do them all at once I believe. Coming from the same android version always helps this process too.
Google login on the new phone should push a lot of stuff to the phone, but you might need to make sure the setting on the Nexus One to back up your setigns on the cloud/mothership is turned on. It's not been 100% reliable for me in the past moving from one phone to another.
Agreed with the others who suggest Titanium, it's been a life-saver.
We're assuming you're rooted, because to use Titanium, you must be rooted. Also, get the paid version, it's under $5 and adds a lot of functionality, like batch restore of all your apps.
On caveat when moving from one phone to another (or even one ROM to another) is that when you restore with Titanium, you just want to restore apps + app data...you don't want to restore system settings, this could, supposedly, lead to some trouble.
i see this asked a lot, but i must be confused. i thought that anytime you sign into an android phone with your account, all free and paid apps you have automaitically download to the phone, simply by signing in. i know when i completely wipe my phone, sign in upon boot up, and all apps return like i never even wiped. i can watch them install one by one over a 15 min period.
even my wallpaper gets saved to google's server, and placed back onto the phone as my wall paper. most settings too.
the one thing you will not have saved are texts, oh and any app-specific data from the old phone.
Your app history is tied to the sign in account (free and paid).
The data/settings for the applications is the issue at hand. Some developers sync the data to cloud services, some don't. For the latter you must to the titanium backup deal to move stuff or copy the sd card contents. Some devs opt to just create a folder on the sd card.
Most google applications (obviously) sync data/settings to the cloud. They offer devs a service to do the same. As more devs use it or their own you'll be able to seemlessly switch from device to device withou a hassle.
if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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Yep, it's pretty much that simple.
I need some help here. I have no internal memory on my blaze. I have no games, a hundred pictures or so, and a decent number of apps downloaded. I have used app2sd to move as many apps to the external sd card, but I have consistently run out of memory in a variety of ROMs. I am currently using AOKP ROM, but it is the same case with a few others I have used. I cannot take pictures because my memory is full. Things like evernote will not sync, nook can't download books, etc.
Anybody got any suggestions? I am not really even sure what is taking up all the memory, none of the files are even that large. I can provide any info needed, just not sure where to begin.
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I need some help here. I have no internal memory on my blaze. I have no games, a hundred pictures or so, and a decent number of apps downloaded. I have used app2sd to move as many apps to the external sd card, but I have consistently run out of memory in a variety of ROMs. I am currently using AOKP ROM, but it is the same case with a few others I have used. I cannot take pictures because my memory is full. Things like evernote will not sync, nook can't download books, etc.
Anybody got any suggestions? I am not really even sure what is taking up all the memory, none of the files are even that large. I can provide any info needed, just not sure where to begin.
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I used clean master which gave me a good 250mb back. You should try it.
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Bradlees said:
I need some help here. I have no internal memory on my blaze. I have no games, a hundred pictures or so, and a decent number of apps downloaded. I have used app2sd to move as many apps to the external sd card, but I have consistently run out of memory in a variety of ROMs. I am currently using AOKP ROM, but it is the same case with a few others I have used. I cannot take pictures because my memory is full. Things like evernote will not sync, nook can't download books, etc.
Anybody got any suggestions? I am not really even sure what is taking up all the memory, none of the files are even that large. I can provide any info needed, just not sure where to begin.
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Try getting a dropbox, google drive or skydrive account and loading all your files such as pics, videos and even titanium backup folder etc. Using file explorers suchas astro will still let you view the files as if they were on your phone. Also go through all your apps and clear all the caches. Browsers such as Mozilla can have very large caches especially if there synced to your pc. I use dolphin browser, other small browsers such as opera mini might help based on your preferences, try a few. Google+, maps and other google apps tend to keep a large cache on hand. The online album syncs such as dropbox should resolve the issue.
Oh and google drive offers more space initially than dropbox, skydrive gives you 7 gigs off the jump. If it helped hit thx
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Try getting a dropbox, google drive or skydrive account and loading all your files such as pics, videos and even titanium backup folder etc. Using file explorers suchas astro will still let you view the files as if they were on your phone. Also go through all your apps and clear all the caches. Browsers such as Mozilla can have very large caches especially if there synced to your pc. I use dolphin browser, other small browsers such as opera mini might help based on your preferences, try a few. Google+, maps and other google apps tend to keep a large cache on hand. The online album syncs such as dropbox should resolve the issue.
Oh and google drive offers more space initially than dropbox, skydrive gives you 7 gigs off the jump. If it helped hit thx
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I've downloaded skydrive as I've been using windows 8 on my pc and pretty happy with it thus far. Is there a way to change my setting\s so pictures, etc are stored here? Or would I just basically upload them and then delete them from the gallery?
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I've downloaded skydrive as I've been using windows 8 on my pc and pretty happy with it thus far. Is there a way to change my setting\s so pictures, etc are stored here? Or would I just basically upload them and then delete them from the gallery?
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You need to download sky drive to your PC. You can edit the settings from your PC to automatically sync PC when on, and doesn't matter where u delete from PC or phone ,online album will sync delete across all devices. I use all three giving me a total of 14.5 gbs of space, I only keep drop box sync on and use the other two selectively.
Also probally best to setup sync over WiFi only to avoid overage on your data network usage
Did everything work out for you?
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Did everything work out for you?
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Ok, so things did not work out for me. I have files synced and uploaded to dropbox and skydrive. However, all the pictures were already stored on my external sd card, the real external sd card which has about 4 of 8 gb free still. So, I'm at a bit of a loss here as to what to do. The 1.39 available storage on the internal usb storage is completely full. THere are no games, music, and a few pictures on it and that it is it. What is taking up so much space?
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Ok, so things did not work out for me. I have files synced and uploaded to dropbox and skydrive. However, all the pictures were already stored on my external sd card, the real external sd card which has about 4 of 8 gb free still. So, I'm at a bit of a loss here as to what to do. The 1.39 available storage on the internal usb storage is completely full. THere are no games, music, and a few pictures on it and that it is it. What is taking up so much space?
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Look at it in a file explorer only u can see what's on it not us
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I have the same problem with mine. Use a file manager and delete the ".thumbnails" folder in the DCIM folder and it frees up a few hundred mb. It might be hidden so you may need a root explorer or plug your usb into the computer
That's how it is for me at least.
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Ok, so things did not work out for me. I have files synced and uploaded to dropbox and skydrive. However, all the pictures were already stored on my external sd card, the real external sd card which has about 4 of 8 gb free still. So, I'm at a bit of a loss here as to what to do. The 1.39 available storage on the internal usb storage is completely full. THere are no games, music, and a few pictures on it and that it is it. What is taking up so much space?
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You dont sync your browser from phone to pc do you? I use to with mozilla, but ended up with a mobile browser weighing in at around 120 mb (ouch). Use a smaller browser. Another thing do you regularly clear your caches? These can stack up. Also if your photos are all uploaded to dropbox and such, DELETE them from your phone. The ones you use for wallpapers,contacts etc., store on your external card that way to be safe and not delete them when you clear your gallery after new uploads. Last thing check your downloaded files from setting and see which ones can be moved to sd card. Other than that explore your files.
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Try wipping Dalvik and cache partition and any thumbnails inside the DCMI folder.
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You dont sync your browser from phone to pc do you? I use to with mozilla, but ended up with a mobile browser weighing in at around 120 mb (ouch). Use a smaller browser. Another thing do you regularly clear your caches? These can stack up. Also if your photos are all uploaded to dropbox and such, DELETE them from your phone. The ones you use for wallpapers,contacts etc., store on your external card that way to be safe and not delete them when you clear your gallery after new uploads. Last thing check your downloaded files from setting and see which ones can be moved to sd card. Other than that explore your files.
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I found the culprit with es file explorer. Sizes of folders were not showing up if I connected to the pc and tried to use the windows file explorer. THere was some file that was almost 1gb in the cwm folder.
I use chrome and it is synced. Should I turn this off?
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I found the culprit with es file explorer. Sizes of folders were not showing up if I connected to the pc and tried to use the windows file explorer. THere was some file that was almost 1gb in the cwm folder.
I use chrome and it is synced. Should I turn this off?
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I would. Also have you ever tried dolphin browser? It loads web pages alot faster, throw in adaway to block popups and youll be solid. Both you can get from the play store. Its up to you but I use jetpack (playstore) with dolphin to improve speed.
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Back up all your apps (Either with Titanium Backup) Wipe and factory reset everything,(In cwr go to mounts and format all except external_SD) flash your ROM. Now you should be all clean. Then I suggest getting a 32 GB SD card and use Link2Sd and Directory Bind to move actual apps to your external SD. Here is a great guide on how to use both apps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33884286
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I've always had Android phones with SD cards and was mostly able to always keep files other than Apps (and a few things like Titanium BU license) on the SD so when changing phones, or ROMs or having the need to reset I never was at risk of losing music, books, pictures, etc.
Do any of you have a good strategy for doing something similar on a phone with no SD? I absolutely love this 7 Pro (especially being back to rooting after being with Verizon for 4 years and their phones being unable to be rooted).
Other than the difficult and dangerous ordeal of going the A/B overhaul (sounded really scary when I read about it)... What say any of you?
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Just transfer files out to computer before you touch the storage, or use cloud storage, also type c to USB adapter also works...you can have a USB SD reader attached that way
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I've always had Android phones with SD cards and was mostly able to always keep files other than Apps (and a few things like Titanium BU license) on the SD so when changing phones, or ROMs or having the need to reset I never was at risk of losing music, books, pictures, etc.
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People who used a black and white TV every day
were shocked by the transition to a color TV.
The physical limitations of the SD card have long been
exceeded by the speed of internet traffic and cloud storage.
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A Google Account takes care of your contacts.
Keep everything important on Google Drive, Dropbox and so on.
Opera browser has long been synchronizing your tabs and more.
Nova Launcher backup & import settings in one file, etc.
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I've always had Android phones with SD cards and was mostly able to always keep files other than Apps (and a few things like Titanium BU license) on the SD so when changing phones, or ROMs or having the need to reset I never was at risk of losing music, books, pictures, etc.
Do any of you have a good strategy for doing something similar on a phone with no SD?
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If you want something that's not cloud-based, but, convenient, I use this solution from MEENOVA:
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/dash_g3c.html
After reading about the problem people have with video playback the latest OTA versions"IN: 11.0.6.7.KB05DA ; EU: 11.0.6.8.KB05BA ; NA: 11.0.6.7.KB05AA "
I want to ask what is the best way to backup as much data as possible before updating in case I need to wipe and downgrade later. On my older phones when I was rooted I would just fire up TWRP and take a nandroid backup before updating. If any problems I would just restore that.
What is the best alternative without root? Adb backup? and manual sync/copy of photos and stuff to the cloud/my computer. I read about adb backup that not working properly for some people and possible being deprecated in the future.
One of the reasons I got the 10+ was for the SD card slot. I use the SD card like a data drive. The internal memory is for the OS, programs and to temporarily store downloads (to check for malware).
Samsung's also have Smart Switch to back up settings data, apps, etc. That backup copy is also on the SD card (haven't tested it yet).
Right now I can do a complete reload with little or no internet connection and be good to go in about 2 hours.
You can use external memory instead though. Cloud crap takes too long, same with Playstore.
Use ApkExport to copy all your apps and updates then load directly from those copies.
Save all critical data on the external hd. Make sure your bookmarks are recoverable. Any app that allows you to backup their settings, do so and add those as well.
Make sure you copy your contacts and text messages.
I keep master folders on my phone for documents, music, vids, dcim by year, etc that match to those stored in my laptop which serves as a secondary backup to my SD card. Keep at least two backup copies and store in separate locations. Ideally one should be completely off line and stored in a earth grounded metal box.
Hdds are preferable to flash memory.
Workout a plan within the limitations of your device and software before you need it.
So I just got a Note20 Ultra and had a Note 9. I used smart switch and samsung cloud to transfer everything. The apps transferred fine, but none of the app data did.
I was able transfer everything to my Tab S7+ just fine, and it even syncs with my apps. Like if I make it to another level of a game on the Note 9 it will carry over to the tab. Why isn't it doing that with the Note20?
May not work well with different devices and especially OS's.
Never use it to store critical data.
Apparently it does not save secure folder data.
If it doesn't work right you may need to do a factory reset and hand load.
I use it to save homepage settings, contacts and not much more. I load app from saved copies. A clean load can last a year or longer, a bad load won't.
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May not work well with different devices and especially OS's.
Never use it to store critical data.
Apparently it does not save secure folder data.
If it doesn't work right you may need to do a factory reset and hand load.
I use it to save homepage settings, contacts and not much more. I load app from saved copies. A clean load can last a year or longer, a bad load won't.
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It's the same OS though, on all devices. It's just not syncing the app data correctly, and helium is outdated now
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It's the same OS though, on all devices. It's just not syncing the app data correctly, and helium is outdated now
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Apps that allow backup like Poweramp, ColorNote, Digi Clock are hard or impossible to recreate. Fortunately they allow for complete backup. The lesser apps I don't worry about.
Homepage settings however are a pain and can't be completely backed up. I keep a image of my favorite icon pack from Galaxy store so I can easily search for it. Shortcuts need to be recreated. SmartSwitch will partially recreate homepage but loses the icon pack, icon/folder position and so on.
Use your SD card as a data drive; all critical data and backups go here. Redundantly back this up to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps and app updates; no Playstore needed for a reload. Do not encrypt data drives, ever... or you will lose data eventually.
Only loaded apps, the DCIM and download folder go on internal memory. Regularly backup the DCIM folder to the data drive. Do Not name it DCIM folder there as it will cause issues.
If your OS crash and burns, all your data and backups are on the data drive... everything you need for a full reload.
No perfect but you can easily backup a stock Samsung like this and carry everything you need to do a full rebuild in the phone.
So I was able to transfer it from the tab s7 but not the note 9, so whatever
Between Swift backup and nova prime- can one not get everything backed up completely including app data?
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Between Swift backup and nova prime- can one not get everything backed up completely including app data?
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I've never heard of those, but I will try. Thank you!
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I've never heard of those, but I will try. Thank you!
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The reason you do a factory reset most times is to give the OS a clean slate.
Migrating app data can also migrate problem(s). If the degradation is subtle you may never pick it up.
A fast running, stable, glitch free platform is worth a little more set up time.
Your can only backup/recovery full data on a rooted device.
If you use the SD card as a data drive, backup the apps that allow there. Take some screen shots of the homescreen layout/icon pack apk used, use SmartSwitch to save homescreen, backup contacts and use ApkExport to save installable copies for quick reload. Backup all passwords.
I use ColorNote to save all bookmarks and many of my notes because it backups to the SD card.
Hyperlinks can open directly from it.
Takes about 2 hours to get it back to 99%. If you organize it, it's not that bad. I keep a master backup folder that has that kit in it.
♤Preplanning is the key, otherwise it's a data gauntlet.
The first load is the hardest. After 2 back to back boot loops I stopped screwing around with reloads and got very efficient at it
A couple weeks ago I brought my second N10+ online. I simply swapped the older N10+'s SD and sim card to it. It didn't take long to set it up.