Just tried The Conduit HD for Xperia Play. I found that it's partially Optimized. Could we expect a complete optimization when it'll come out? Who knows...
Video:
youtube.com/watch?v=NOFLP6Qo1hg
Hate to be a downer, but it's only working because the Xperia Play shares some of the same button bindings as bluetooth controllers, not because of any kind of optimization, partial or otherwise. Maybe in 6 months when it's no longer Tegra 3 exclusive they may do that, but our phones are old enough as it is.
Now what would be nice is if someone developed an app that allows the Plays touchpads to emulate bluetooth controller analog sticks rather than the cumbersome setup with gamekeyboard, which is great but not ideal.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Now what would be nice is if someone developed an app that allows the Plays touchpads to emulate bluetooth controller analog sticks rather than the cumbersome setup with gamekeyboard, which is great but not ideal.
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If emailed gamekeyboard dev I would of thought he could enable this option as he already has (touchscreen to Bluetooth controller natively with analog input) but would still mean you would need ICS or above.
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So yesterday I downloaded Nesoid and a handful of ROMs for my Captivate. I had some fun playing them, but using the on screen virtual keyboard was really hard and it covered most of the gaming action. So I see that the new psx4droid supports wiimote. So I emailed the developer of Nesoid and suggested that he add that capability to his too and that other than that its a great emulator. He emailed back and this is his response
You can use other apps on the Market. But please enable input method in Nesoid settings.
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What does this actually mean? Is there another app that I have to download and install first to get the wiimote to connect to my phone via bluetooth?
I dont have a wiimote yet, and before I go buy one, I'd like to know exactly how it works, if it will.
Search for "Wiimote controller" on the market, should work.
You can use a few bluetooth gamepads with android. One being
MSI Bluetooth Gamepad (BGP-100) which is a weird kinda swivel thing. I am going to gut a SNES controller and put the BGP-100 into it. It has been done before and everything seems to fit fine.
There is also another bluetooth controller made for blackberry's that works with android. It is vertical gamepad with a trigger control. Seems pretty nice.
I think you have to buy a market app to get the drivers to make the above 2 gamepads work.
Also as mentioned you can use a wiiremote as a gamepad for android. I have been looking for a wii classic controller + wii combo, so it does not have to be tethered to a normal wii controller to work. I want small and portable bluetooth with a dfecent amount of buttons that is why I am going with the SNES form factor.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.ccpcreations.android.WiiUseAndroid
Free, although it does say there isn't galaxy s support....so it might not work.
wiimotes currently do not work on the SGS phones because of the bt3.0. not sure on the other BT controllers
Are there any controllers that can be plugged in? Just wondering for flights...
Well I emailed the developer of Wiimote Controller and asked if they could update to support Galaxy S phones. This is there response:
Hello,
thank you for your feedback.
I don't think this will be possible with the current way Samsung's software is handling bluetooth.
Best regards,
Piki
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Doesnt sound good for us getting to use a wiimote as a gamepad
Trying to play Nesoid with onscreen vitrual controller sucks, its too hard and I'm afraid of breaking my phone. Every time I get into the game and start tapping A or B rapidly I can feel it flex and creak in my hands.
Just wondering in anybody has made progress on getting a bluetooth controller for the captivate/galaxy s?
Ive been looking into it...and came to a bunch of dead ends aswell :sigh:
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Please let me know if anyone finds a controller that works.
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Speaking of games...
I wasn't able to find any in the market but I'm rooted so I know I can find games from other sources.
Are there any games like Alone in the Dark (horror genre) or fantasy role playing that would have the same type of graphics you'd see in WoW that I can put on my Captivate?
Is it possible to either an Xbox360 or PS3 controller with Android Games such as Sprinkle, Angry Birds, Dungeon Defenders, T-Racer, etc...?
I'm also getting mixed info on whether or not its possible to use PS3 and Xbox360 controllers Wirelessly?
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not sure about those games but i use a wii remote for all my emulator games.
The game/application must explicitly support it. The only ones I know of that do right now are the emulators, Riptide, and the new Shadowgun(awesome btw).
I think you can use the XBOX 360 controller wirelessly with the USB dongle, which kinda defeats the purpose. No clue about PS3
Thanks, that's what I figured.
You can use the ps³ controller wirelessly with an app called sixaxis. Works amazing on shadowgun and emulators. Im sure itd also work with riptide but i dont have that game.
Thanks! I'll try it out.
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The PS3 SixAxis app does the same thing as the WiiMote app. It binds the buttons to letters... which can be MAPPED in Emulators and games that support button bindings.
So Wireless gameplay on native android apps is probably a no go (except ShadowRun since it supports button bindings).
WIRED gameplay is totally different. Android supports WIRED controllers out of the box since 3.1 or 3.2... This should work... to some extent. Your using a controller for a game which requires touch input... may not work well. YMMV!
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not sure about those games but i use a wii remote for all my emulator games.
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which driver do you use? I used RWiimote back in the day with my G2 without issue, but it immediately force closes on the transformer.
I got sixaxis working great last night, but it slugs the game down pretty bad. But at the time I was just rooted with bone stock otherwise, I'm in the process of flashing a custom rom, hopefully runs better with CPU tweaks. The only issue I was having with emulators was that I had to specifically select "Use Input Method" in SNES Emu, and I think N64 the option is called Use IME.
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The PS3 SixAxis app does the same thing as the WiiMote app. It binds the buttons to letters... which can be MAPPED in Emulators and games that support button bindings.
So Wireless gameplay on native android apps is probably a no go (except ShadowRun since it supports button bindings).
WIRED gameplay is totally different. Android supports WIRED controllers out of the box since 3.1 or 3.2... This should work... to some extent. Your using a controller for a game which requires touch input... may not work well. YMMV!
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theres other games that it works well with like reckless racing and riptide gp. ive read about others working as well. im sure a quick google will bring up a decent list of complatible games.
ok, so more and more interesting games are coming out like GTA III but in my oppinion touch-interface controls are completely useless.
As the tf101 has a usb port, you can use usb-gamepads with it - the problem is though that most games do not accept input from the keyboard (the gamepad basically just pushes kb buttons) but only the touchscreen or a few hw buttons
isnt there some way we could "emulate" the touch controls or something in order to use real hgamepads in any game or emu? i know most emus support keyboard input and work with pads, but most games dont.
in many cases steering via the gamepad still works, but the action buttons remain unmapped for most games.
I dunno much about the eeeePad Transformer, but if it will do OTG (on the go) support, you can get an adaptor and a USB gamepad.
Search thru youtube or Amazon for OTG adaptor.
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isnt there some way we could "emulate" the touch controls or something in order to use real hgamepads in any game or emu? i know most emus support keyboard input and work with pads, but most games dont.
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I can't see how this could be implemented all that awesomely, that it would be all that much better for the work. May as well bribe developers to patch in suitable support.
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I'm sure I don't need to get anyone here up to speed on the OUYA, but one thing that does strike up interest is their partnership with Square-Enix. Ouya being a physical controller dominated consolve means that Square-Enix support is bound to upgrade their games with that all-important precision of controller-based input.
Touch input on RPGs is fairly acceptable, but what I've noticed in games like Eternal Legacy and Symphony of the Eternity is that; while touch input seems like it'd be better than gamepad input for RPGs, it's actually much slower, and much less precise.
At any rate, do you think Square-Enix being in bed with Ouya means Final Fantasy III will get native controller support in an update? I'm thinking that we may get some inadvertent Xperia Play gamepad support just from that!
Unfortunately though it seems like the API for controller support on ICS is different than what the Xperia play controls need to work. Hence why dead trigger for example needed additional work to be xplay optimized. I wouldn't hold my breath.
I agree with Rogue Leader. Many games have ICS gamepad support without Xperia Play game-pad support and I can't imagine supporting one controller medium will necessarily lead to supporting another. There is a ray of hope shining in from a different direction, Lara Croft was made by Square-Enix and features gamepad support so the company does have experience with the code and could implement it based on that if they feel that implementation will boost their sales.
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Unfortunately though it seems like the API for controller support on ICS is different than what the Xperia play controls need to work. Hence why dead trigger for example needed additional work to be xplay optimized. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Only the touchpad. The play uses the same hardware keys as a native controller except that X (D-Pad center) = Button A and circle (back) = button b. So this could be rectified with gamekeyboard remapper. This is the reason there was no ics for xperia play as Sony could not match touchpad (Sony framework code) to android 3.1+ native controller code. Thus making some games broken as seen in Sony's ics beta Rom.
As for FF I can't see that touchpad/ analogs would be needed so there is a good chance most buttons would work
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There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
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There are tons of apps out there that can turn xperia play as a pc gamepad but they take no advantage of the dual analogs.Now if a cool developer can create an app or modify a current one to let us use the touchpas it would be awesome.!!! I mean imagine using left touchpad for movement in an fps game, and right touchpad for camera movement with an option to adjust sensitivity.I am currently using app.pcon by Noire since it is easy to set up although it lacks the touchpads which are needed in every single 3d game.I played Darksouls with my play as controller although i found it hard to move with arrows and eventually i couldnt map every button i needed since all four dpad buttons were used as a movement option.Thank you for your time.If i could develop i would it myself for every xperia play owner but i lack the skills required::fingers-crossed:
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You have 2 solutions Friend!
1) Install the application Kainy, use PC mode controller. And with gamekeyboard emulate analog like the mouse to control the camera in some games.
2) Install a Rom Android 4.0 or higher, and with the application USB / BT Joystick Center (which is better than gamekeyboard) and use the analog and mouse, and configure other keys to your liking.
Hope that helps,
If you need any help leave a more detailed tutorial
Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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So there is no app i can use directly to emulate and map analogs on play?Altough i think it can be done somehow...
Maybe it can be done with Droidmote but i have a hard time installing drivers and it is getting very messy
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Kainy gives me some issues on controlling the mouse... :\ did you have any?
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but tasted the latest verson 1.40??
eh read that has some bugs, but it's pretty configurable within everything. And it depends on the PC and Internet speed you have, and you wear rom installed. For applications Gamekeyboard Kainy & USB BT Joystick Center or go smoother.
I have a 10 mb connection & a PC (Intel Quad Core i7 3770, AMD graphics card Radeon HD 6850 1GB DDR5, and 8 gigs of ram and GTA 4 is playable on my Xplay as gods.
For PS2 games on PC emulator. Kainy + USB / BT Joystick Center is excellent. Eh I did not tested yet, but I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfT64J3NZKg