ok, so more and more interesting games are coming out like GTA III but in my oppinion touch-interface controls are completely useless.
As the tf101 has a usb port, you can use usb-gamepads with it - the problem is though that most games do not accept input from the keyboard (the gamepad basically just pushes kb buttons) but only the touchscreen or a few hw buttons
isnt there some way we could "emulate" the touch controls or something in order to use real hgamepads in any game or emu? i know most emus support keyboard input and work with pads, but most games dont.
in many cases steering via the gamepad still works, but the action buttons remain unmapped for most games.
I dunno much about the eeeePad Transformer, but if it will do OTG (on the go) support, you can get an adaptor and a USB gamepad.
Search thru youtube or Amazon for OTG adaptor.
eos666 said:
isnt there some way we could "emulate" the touch controls or something in order to use real hgamepads in any game or emu? i know most emus support keyboard input and work with pads, but most games dont.
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I can't see how this could be implemented all that awesomely, that it would be all that much better for the work. May as well bribe developers to patch in suitable support.
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So yesterday I downloaded Nesoid and a handful of ROMs for my Captivate. I had some fun playing them, but using the on screen virtual keyboard was really hard and it covered most of the gaming action. So I see that the new psx4droid supports wiimote. So I emailed the developer of Nesoid and suggested that he add that capability to his too and that other than that its a great emulator. He emailed back and this is his response
You can use other apps on the Market. But please enable input method in Nesoid settings.
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What does this actually mean? Is there another app that I have to download and install first to get the wiimote to connect to my phone via bluetooth?
I dont have a wiimote yet, and before I go buy one, I'd like to know exactly how it works, if it will.
Search for "Wiimote controller" on the market, should work.
You can use a few bluetooth gamepads with android. One being
MSI Bluetooth Gamepad (BGP-100) which is a weird kinda swivel thing. I am going to gut a SNES controller and put the BGP-100 into it. It has been done before and everything seems to fit fine.
There is also another bluetooth controller made for blackberry's that works with android. It is vertical gamepad with a trigger control. Seems pretty nice.
I think you have to buy a market app to get the drivers to make the above 2 gamepads work.
Also as mentioned you can use a wiiremote as a gamepad for android. I have been looking for a wii classic controller + wii combo, so it does not have to be tethered to a normal wii controller to work. I want small and portable bluetooth with a dfecent amount of buttons that is why I am going with the SNES form factor.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.ccpcreations.android.WiiUseAndroid
Free, although it does say there isn't galaxy s support....so it might not work.
wiimotes currently do not work on the SGS phones because of the bt3.0. not sure on the other BT controllers
Are there any controllers that can be plugged in? Just wondering for flights...
Well I emailed the developer of Wiimote Controller and asked if they could update to support Galaxy S phones. This is there response:
Hello,
thank you for your feedback.
I don't think this will be possible with the current way Samsung's software is handling bluetooth.
Best regards,
Piki
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Doesnt sound good for us getting to use a wiimote as a gamepad
Trying to play Nesoid with onscreen vitrual controller sucks, its too hard and I'm afraid of breaking my phone. Every time I get into the game and start tapping A or B rapidly I can feel it flex and creak in my hands.
Just wondering in anybody has made progress on getting a bluetooth controller for the captivate/galaxy s?
Ive been looking into it...and came to a bunch of dead ends aswell :sigh:
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Please let me know if anyone finds a controller that works.
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Speaking of games...
I wasn't able to find any in the market but I'm rooted so I know I can find games from other sources.
Are there any games like Alone in the Dark (horror genre) or fantasy role playing that would have the same type of graphics you'd see in WoW that I can put on my Captivate?
Hi all,
Since HC3.1 starts supporting gaming controllers, what other native games (non-emulator) have you found working with your PS3/XBox controller with your TF ?
Here's the working list for PS3 via USB
1) Cordy
2) Gem Miner: Dig deeper (R d-pad or analog to move, L3 to deploy ladder)
3) Pinball by Magma Mobile games (Map-able keys but only runs on potrait mode)
4) Amageddonoid (Fully functional but small screen play)
5) Grave Digger Full & Free (DPad to control, Circle to dig)
6) Battle Bears Lite - Xperia play (Playable - Almost all keys working need to investigate further)
7) Zenonia 2 (All except special binded actions doesn't work; need to press on screen to activate - fair I guess)
I'm testing and will update here of my findings, please contribute if you had found any. Your best bet is to look for games that had been optimized for Xperia Play gamepad (or just Xperia Play).
Quick side Q on this...
Was anyone able to get their X360/PS3 pad working wirelessly? With the x360, you'd need to USB-to-PC receiver, and I have one but wasn't able to get it going. Otherwise, maybe the PS3 one would work wirelessly?
I also tried my Play N Charge cable for my x360 controller, but that didn't work either (reported that said cable does not supply data, only current).
So, I guess what I'm asking is...Is the only way to get X360/PS3 controllers working is if you wire them into the USB port on the dock? If it's an X360 pad, of course you would need a traditional wired version I also assume.
Failing these pads, I'm still going to try to get a Datel Retro Wii Classic Wireless pad, but they're sold out everywhere!
(didn't mean to bring this off-topic, but to answer your Q, I can only backup your report of Cordy. It works for me with my WiiMote)
I've only played Cordy with a controller, and it didn't seem to like my USB Saturn pad. Considering that 3.1 is brand new, I doubt developers have been given enough time to start adding support for gamepads, and even then I'm still not even sure if it will be a popular feature. The Acer Iconia is the only Honeycomb tablet that has a standard USB port on the tablet itself, while the Transformer requires the keyboard dock and the Xoom needs an adapter, and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 doesn't even support an adapter.
I think gamepad support is going to be isolated to emulators for a while, at least until a major developer decides to build a high-profile game that is best played with a controller. But even then there's the issue of building a game around the requirement that the consumer go out and buy a third party accessory. Consumers are historically stubborn and lazy, and will often refuse to purchase extra peripherals for gaming systems if they can get away with using the included controls on the system.
PCs don't often see ports of high profile console games because the developers lose a lot of sales by trying to force the consumers to buy an extra game controller to play their game, and those that plan on doing without expect that the developers are going to make the game playable on keyboard/mouse anyway. The same principle would apply to tablets and phones, wherein consumers are going to expect to be able to play all games simply by using the accelerometer and touch screen. It's tough to sell a game that needs extra peripherals, especially when you don't have the support of a major game company like Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony. Using existing gamepads is a great feature, but there's no way to enforce the usage of one particular gamepad unless someone offers a game and gamepad together in a single bundle.
Only time will tell if gamepads are going to become more popular on Android.
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Quick side Q on this...
Was anyone able to get their X360/PS3 pad working wirelessly? With the x360, you'd need to USB-to-PC receiver, and I have one but wasn't able to get it going. Otherwise, maybe the PS3 one would work wirelessly?
I also tried my Play N Charge cable for my x360 controller, but that didn't work either (reported that said cable does not supply data, only current).
So, I guess what I'm asking is...Is the only way to get X360/PS3 controllers working is if you wire them into the USB port on the dock? If it's an X360 pad, of course you would need a traditional wired version I also assume.
Failing these pads, I'm still going to try to get a Datel Retro Wii Classic Wireless pad, but they're sold out everywhere!
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I use my keyboard dock for all USB devices, so I can't comment on the wireless capabilities for 360/PS3 controllers. I do know though that Datel's wireless Wii controller is available directly from the Codejunkies website.
Edit: I just noticed the controller is out of stock. That makes me sad.
I noticed that the controller maps to the direction keys as well. For example, I remember trying to use the controller to scroll to the next home screen in launcher pro. Hence if there are games that uses the direction keys on an android device that has keyboard (i.e. G1), there may be chance that we can use controller to control the game instead.
Btw, I mean it's wired controlled, not wireless...
Hey guys, looks like after the update the 360 controller works now
Great news but what to do with it?
I mean, its great for mapping the controls to emulators but I Want to map it for android games! Like asphalt 6 and NOVA and others!
This would also help us to map wiimotes and other gamepads to other applications and games.
Anyone know how?
anyone? please?
How did you get it to work im still trying
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How did you get it to work im still trying
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see my other thread
no way to map wiimotes and gamepads to other games other than emulators?
On a side note. I used my standard USB gamepad and it works great. I don't think you need a 360 or PS3 pad specifically.
Just any old USB gamepad. Mine is a Saitek or something. It looks and feels like a PS3. Its too quality of PC gamepads.
I also have a wireless Wii gamepad that works well.
I tested this last night and the controls just work. You can't change the mappings but the buttons function. So Nova and others will work. You also have touch screen for those games if something came up which required touch input.
For emulators with key mapping... you just map ad normal.
For standard android games... they just work.
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On a side note. I used my standard USB gamepad and it works great. I don't think you need a 360 or PS3 pad specifically.
Just any old USB gamepad. Mine is a Sitek or something. It looks and feels like a PS3. Its too quality of PC gamepads.
I also have a wireless Wii gamepad that works well.
I tested this last night and the controls just work. You can't change the mappings but the buttons function. So Nova and others will work. You also have touch screen for those games if something came up which required touch input.
For emulators with key mapping... you just map ad normal.
For standard android games... they just work.
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I never got my Rumble pads to work on the Transformer, funny enough they work perectly with a PS3 and I got a PS3 controller working with the transformer.
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On a side note. I used my standard USB gamepad and it works great. I don't think you need a 360 or PS3 pad specifically.
Just any old USB gamepad. Mine is a Saitek or something. It looks and feels like a PS3. Its too quality of PC gamepads.
I also have a wireless Wii gamepad that works well.
I tested this last night and the controls just work. You can't change the mappings but the buttons function. So Nova and others will work. You also have touch screen for those games if something came up which required touch input.
For emulators with key mapping... you just map ad normal.
For standard android games... they just work.
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funny, they dont work for me.
Do you change the input or something for standard android games?
this topic androidguys.com/2011/10/24/turn-your-galaxy-nexus-into-a-pocket-console-with-ice-cream-sandwich/ made me think about gamign on the transformer, using the qwerty keyboard - is it possible to use the WASD keys similar to gaming on the PC? do I need a special app for capturing the key presses and "translating" them into something most android games can use?
well, no, however, most games don't use the keyboard anyway. Most emulators will support the keyboard right off the bat. If you're talking about flash games then, yes, it will work perfectly for those however, don't expect good mouse control in flash games. So, it really depends on the game because, to most apps, the dock is just like an attached keyboard and will treat it as such. Also, you CAN use a wii, ps3, or wired xbox 360 controller for games, it that's your thing (mario kart plays really well with the wii and nunchuck controller, just sayin)
Tincore keymapper
Play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tincore.and.keymapper&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50aW5jb3JlLmFuZC5rZXltYXBwZXIiXQ..
Wiki
http://tincore.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page
Support group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tincore-contact
Control your touch only games with most keyboard, joysticks, gamepad or your phone or tablet buttons. Remap the functions of any key, button, mouse...
Support BT and USB connected including Wiimotes. Wiimotes do not work on Android 4.2 due to OS incompatibilities.
Supports more than one gamepad/keyboard at a time.
More than 8 different touch interactions per button/stick.
Create profiles for your games/apps and have them automatically applied on the fly.
Simple, intutitive and well Holo integrated UI.
Very high game compatibility and lag-free performance.
Device compatibility is steadily improving. Help me with your support.
If you are a manufacturer/distributor and you want your device supported natively please send email to: [email protected]
An experimental IME is added. It can be controlled with gamepads. It is NOT mandatory to use it. You can combine the application with other IME.
__IMPORTANT________
This application requires root for advanced mapping modes.
General simple mapping video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2LzTYshWm4
MC4 keyboard and mouse example. Thanks Erwin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g_iB1_s0k4
Downloads:
http://tincore.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page#Download
Supported devices:
The application is rather universal. Most of devices should work, specially if rooted
Just a small list:
Asus TF700
GPD 5005
GPD 7018
GPD G5A
IBENx L1
JXD 5110B
JXD 7300B
JXD 7800B
JXD 5800B
Minix
IreadyGo Much I5
Nexus
Nvidia Shield
Ouya
Sony Xperia Play
Gametel
Ipega 9017
Ipega 9017S
Ipega 9025
Lemon Gamepad
Logitech Rumblepad 2
Logitech F310 F510 F710
Madcatz CTRLR BT/USB
Moga Pocket
Moga Pro
Moga Power
Nyko Playpad and Nyko Playpad Pro
Ouya Controller
PS2 Controllers
PS3 Sixaxis controller
Snakebyte Idroid
Wamo Pro / G910
XBOX Controllers
Reserved (for posting videos)
Video List (Samples of use)
Working beautifully in my smart q t20 tab with an ipega BT controller.
I use option scr invert X and swap X/Y, in out device
Great work! Much better than sixaxis controller and free!!!
This could be a great tool to get some games working on an OUYA. I'll play around with this as soon as I have the time and report back! Thanks!
I have been able to get the ouya control sticks working by swapping x/y axises and inverting the x axis. So far I have set this up for dead tiger and minecraft.
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_swap=1
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_x=X
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_x_invert=1
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_y=Y
event_strategy.ouya_game_controller_0.stick0.axis_y_invert=0
2.8.4
Estabilization of network remote modes.
Estabilization of touch as input.
New mode absolute touch.
New modes virtual pointer (hybrido mouse/touch). Very useful in NFS for non touch devices.
Xperia play touchpad support (ask for instructions in the forum if you dont know how to do it)
Other fixes and optimizations.
2.6.4
Analog stick calibration
2.6.0
Many bugs corrected.
Experimental remote and touch as input modes and a lot of other things here and there.
are there any video tutorials? or step by step guides? Honestly I have no idea how to use this and didn't understand the wiki page
Exclude devices
Is there any way to exclude device that is conected beacause you dont want to use it in games?
for example i have Conectet to my ouya wireless usb keyboard and mouse witch i dont use in games...
without some tutorials, this is useless! i appreciate the time you spent making this but most of us here have no idea how to use it.
the videos on youtube show just some people paying games, no real DEMONSTRATION.
i'm using NYKO playpad pro and i can't control most of my games.
this might be the right app.
Awesome!
Thank you Tincore, I must say this app is very useful not only for gaming but for my home entertainment.
I use my S4 connected to TV via MHL adapter and ipega wireless controller, both works pretty good and setup is quite easy for me.
To make it more perfect, it possible to have auto load profile to a specific profile? because I want my non games use specific profile (with hybrid virtual pointer and home,back,etc shortcut so I can easily go around the launcher and other app movie, gallery from my couch) but when launching specific game, I want it to load specific game profile.
Also can you explain extra paid support feature below,
- Add extra touch controls? --> what other extra touch? why is it useful?
- Analog stick input? --> I dont understand, sorry
Each extra feature has different price and almost $25 for all features, do you have premium one with cheaper price
I don't see any overlaid buttons at all when I have my Moga connected to my Nexus 4. Are they supposed to show up automatically when I open Tincore?
Edit - figured it out, have to press buttons to get them to show up, working perfectly now
How do you do to use it with a bluetooth gamepad?
It doesn't seem to recongnize my gamepad if I hit the refresh option on tincore and click que bluetooth sync button on the gamepad, so how is it supposed to connect to the gamepad?
Is there someone who can help me to setup my moga pro to play at order and chaos?!
Michealtbh? Can you help me?
Envoyé depuis mon HTC One en utilisant Tapatalk 4
What problems are you having exactly? It's fairly easy to use
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What problems are you having exactly? It's fairly easy to use
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I can't find the way to right setup my moga pro to play in order and chaos?!
Nothing is going right.
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I can't find the way to right setup my moga pro to play in order and chaos?!
Nothing is going right.
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Open Tincore then minimize it. Open the game, launch Tincore while in the game (I use Smart Statusbar to help with this) then map the buttons. It couldn't be easier.
You really need to be more specific if you need help.
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man.. i really need your help. i have lenovo s920 and.. i tried to pair it with ipega via tincore. but it doesnt work,, just force close. i try blueimez and bt joystick and it just the same. but only tincore can detect my ipega. my you have a solution..
my s920 run in jelly bean 4.2.1.
I still can't get a hang of it of Tincore Keymapper. Im trying mapped keys for touch screen games mc4, shadowgun,fifa, codboz, etc for use with xbox 360 wireless controller on a mk802iv android pc mini. Basically, whenever I make tincore visible to mapped out the touch screen keys, it either pause the game or black it out. I probably gonna have to use post-it notes to tape position of touch keys on my smart tv. Even opening the app is a pain in the ass cause most of the times it just force close out tincore. Plus, the 2 triggers buttons R2 and L2 are unusable in tincore.
Most of times, I learned how to use apps by tinking around for about a few minutes. I have been playing around with Tincore for a week now and still clueless about how to use it. wish there was a dumb-down tutorial on it.
Whats new on incoming
3.0.3 (beta)
Application autostart option (checkbox in OPERATION section) This only works if app is installed in internal memory.
Immediate minimize on start (checkbox in OPERATION section)
Application starts without root in BASIC MODE ONLY. You will need to activate the IME and ONLY KEY MODES are available. For now you should be able to use BT, image, accelerometers and *SOME* USB gamepads as input devices. I accept donations of USB or BT controllers to increase support.
USB (without root) new device supported HUIJIA gamepad
USB (without root) new device supported Logitech rumblepad 2
BT device supported Moga Pocket
BT device supported Moga Pro
Console Much i5 support
Operation mode mute. Disables button/key.
Manage unknown keys option (checkbox in DEVICES section)
Home button mapping
Partial off screen option for buttons as well. (checkbox in UI section)
Boot warning change
Joystick keypresses not showing bug fix. I.E. Keypresses were not recognized by Dead trigger.
Dpad default keys non default dpad keys fix
Slideshow on boot