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Hey guys,
I am trying my best not to upgrade to WM6.1 on my SP5..
I love my phone with its factory OS.. Though i am curious to what i am missing out on by staying with WM5.
Can someone give me some advantages of WM6.1 over WM5?
And if i was to upgrade.. Do any of these cooked up versions just install and run without any further tweaking?
Thanks for your input
Hi there,
Please proceed to my blog for step by step instruction
http://karhoe.net/htctornado
Why upgrade to WM6.1?
1) Faster
2) Alot of useless stuff removed
3) Running Net compact framework 2.0/3.5
4) More functions
5) GUI improved
6) Windows Mobile (old one) removed savings extra 4-5MB, so now you can install the latest Windows Live Mobile which has more features as well
7) and many more....
Just go to my blog, follow the steps precisely, and it will work flawlessly.
wow you have me convinced
thanks very much.. especially like the fact you have the same phone as me too!
oh hang on..
the upgrade will work flawlessy? or the OS will?
like Wifi, bluetooth etc all ok?
Everything is perfect, WiFi, BT, etc
But there are some minor bugs, which won't really affect you, you have to check the thread of the cooked ROM.
I suggest this ROM, and the thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
THREADED MESSAGING ... that's probably my favorite feature on there, something they should've had from the beginning
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THREADED MESSAGING ... that's probably my favorite feature on there, something they should've had from the beginning
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mmmh. That's always the first thing I deactivate after flashing.
I'd upgrade cause it's way faster in accessing applications and loading them, and i like that new sliding homepage
wm6 windows live
Hi
I cannot get any version of wm live to run on your rom Karhoe (wm6.1 platinum). Tried the one on your website too. HELP!
Regards
whats threaded messaging?
Means SMS is like chatting style
well i did the upgrade about a month ago..
i love the sliding panel theme.. though i cant handle the issue with syncing on 2 PCs not working and the issue with dismissing reminders..
I think im going back to the original ROM.
Or would i have more luck with WM6.0?
Karhoe can you recommend a WM6.0 rom and/or a better WM5 ROM than the original i-mate one?
I take it since my phone is now supercid i can just flash away as normal without bothering with formatting the BINFS?
Thanks again for your help.
this one is perfect
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343358
but only 6.0
just try... nothing to lose...
thanx redred will take look
hmm... got the same problem with dismissing reminders not working with that ROM too..
Reminder comes up.. hit dismiss.. reminds again and again until its actually past the time of the appointment..
sigh.. looks like its back to WM5...
strange...
i'm using appointments 3~4 times in week and everything works ok
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hmm... got the same problem with dismissing reminders not working with that ROM too..
Reminder comes up.. hit dismiss.. reminds again and again until its actually past the time of the appointment..
sigh.. looks like its back to WM5...
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It looks like you need to purge outlook on your PC mate. You must have multiple entries for same apointment. I've had a similar problem every now and then, where Outlook fails or I did a Sync on another pc, and when back to main PC, it screws up outlook. Have had to go and view all apointments, birthdays, etc and clean it up manually.
Also, review how you have your settings, ie "Show 2 weeks" if more than that and you have lots of apointments, it'll go crazy on u.
I've used Nitros Platinum Rom for ever and it works great. Am using now SGreg's Rose Rom, also working good(but w/o the extras on Nitros).
Good Luck!
how much better than 6.0
I flashed up to 6.0 when I first got my 2125, am running WM6 standard CE OS 5.2.1616 build 18120.0.4.0, radio 4.1.13.28_02.61.01 RIL 2.002.
I am relatively happy with speed, and all the apps I installed, etc. I am thrilled with the stability and versatility (phone is also my mp3 and movie player, camera, video recorder, messaging system, etc.).
I have heard rumors that the 6.1 ROM drains the battery faster. True?
I have heard rumors that some bluetooth stuff is not as stable?
The reasons I might upgrade include the fact that some software I put on the phone did not completely uninstall and the ROM I am running has very many features I do not want or use and they clutter up everything .
What is the consensus? Is it worth flashing up again?
looks like it was the time sync from network causing the issue.. turned it off now they dismiss without issue!
also i kinda like 6.0 more than 6.1 didnt like the threaded msging and the way you compose in 6.1
the only way I see 6.1 draining the battery faster than 6 on my phone is that 6.1's Media Player doesn't turn off the screen light while playing music. Other than that, I haven't noticed a battery drain.
flashing up to 6.1 from 6.0
Thanks. Which 6.1 "clean" distro should I use? I have collected the .CABs and don't mind re-layering all the apps I use. I would also love to be able to completely uninstall Windows Media player since I run CORE (TCPMP).
Hello,
back in September when I updated to Mango, i was able to change settings for podcasts I subscribed to via the phone itself. This included that the phone would automatically download new episodes via Wifi without the need of the Zune Software. (see the top section of this site: http://www.wingadgetnews.com/subscribe-podcasts-windows-phone-7/ )
I am now running version 7.10.8773.98 on my phone (Custom Nextgen+ ROM) and this setting has gone missing. Did Microsoft remove this option in later versions of Windows Phone? Is there some way I can get it back? I do not want to have to boot my PC and start the Zune software to sync my podcasts, I want my phone to do this on it's own like it used to to back in October.
So, I figured this out a while ago through intensive searching and trial, but I figured I post the sollution in this thread for future reference.
all that is needed is a registry change in
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Zune\Settings
here you'll find a registry entry called "XuidLocale". For me, the value was DE-DE as I live in germany. I changed this to us-EN and the podcast settings came back.
After I reboot my phone, the value changes back to DE-DE, but the podcast settings are still accessible, so that's a good thing
I just upgraded to Tango 7.10.8773.98 (legit) as well as the .12220 firmware for my Lumia 800, and I seem to have lost these features as well. I tried searching for a solution here on the forums and this seemed to be the most relevant and helpful.
However, I can find neither the settings folder nor "XuidLocale" when going through my registries. Any help would be appreciated...
Edit: Or is this fix only for rooted/unlocked phones?
I've just upgraded to Tango and lost the ability to manage podcasts from the handset too. I thought this was a feature of low-end handsets, not my Lumia. As this is one of my primary uses of my phone it could be enough to drive me back to Android and Jellybean.
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I just upgraded to Tango 7.10.8773.98 (legit) as well as the .12220 firmware for my Lumia 800, and I seem to have lost these features as well. I tried searching for a solution here on the forums and this seemed to be the most relevant and helpful.
However, I can find neither the settings folder nor "XuidLocale" when going through my registries. Any help would be appreciated...
Edit: Or is this fix only for rooted/unlocked phones?
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you need to be at least interop unlocked, I think.
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you need to be at least interop unlocked, I think.
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Yeah, makes sense. I misinterpreted OP's post.
Has anyone (non-US) retained their podcast settings after updating to Tango? Perhaps particularly someone from Sweden with a Lumia device? I got the advice to simply just master reset the phone and just re-sync everything again, but I don't really want to do so if it won't amount to anything.
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Yeah, makes sense. I misinterpreted OP's post.
Has anyone (non-US) retained their podcast settings after updating to Tango? Perhaps particularly someone from Sweden with a Lumia device? I got the advice to simply just master reset the phone and just re-sync everything again, but I don't really want to do so if it won't amount to anything.
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I wiped when I installed (Zune wouldn't put Tango on so I flashed it using the Nokia care suite - Vodafone UK PAYG version same as my Mango). I have lost my podcast management abilities - I had them in Mango.
Has anyone managed to find the fix for this for non-unlocked devices?
I was able to subscribe to podcasts before on my Lumia 800 but as soon as I installed 12220 the options has gone.
Unfortunately, this happened to me too. Couldn't subscribe to new podcast feeds on the phone (although previously-added feeds still updated). There isn't a registry editor that works with my phone either.
As over-the-air podcast syncing is one of my most-used features, I have reverted back to a pre-Tango backup (using Zune). Everything works fine now, albeit on an older OS version.
Sounds like MS added a region check to Tango to make sure you're in a region that has podcasts in the Zune store before allowing you to manage them on your phone. I hope this gets fixed
I think you are out of luck. Unless MS decides to magically bring these features back, if you don't have the ability to edit the registry, you wont be able to manage podcasts on the device
Sorry.
On Tango it worked for me too.
Now i´m an wp7.8 and there it didn´t work
Any idea?
Hi, I was hoping someone could help me!
I had a Titan which I successfully updated to WP7.8 earlier this year using the 78er tool. Unfortunately I dropped that phone and smashed the screen but my insurance company just sent me a new handset so, naturally, the first thing I did was attempt to update to 7.8 again.
I realise now that I should probably have let the default WP7.5 ROM fully update through Zune before running 78er but, alas, I did not. Now, since updating to WP7.8, some aspects of my phone's functionality are working fine but other aspects are not.
For instance I cannot access a variety of settings: the WiFi menu, the accounts menus (email, Facebook, etc), the lock + wallpaper menu, mobile network menu and others. Every time I select one of these nothing happens.
I don't know what to do to resolve this - I cannot re-run 78er as it tells me that it has already updated, so I can only assume that I need to flash an earlier (stable) ROM and then re-run 78er again. But, I must confess I don't know how to do this.
Something that puzzles me is that the OS is otherwise operating normally.
Any thoughts?
Many thanks.
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RESOLVED!
After some searching I discovered that this was due to my selecting the wrong language during the Seven-Eighter update (I selected US English instead of UK English). It seems this is quite a common problem and the solution was to use Cab Sender to send the relevant UK English files to my phone from this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
I had to start from the first update and work my way through. It didn't start working until I had updated to "WP 7.8 OS UPDATES (7.10.8779.8 - 7.10.8779.8)"
Patience is necessary!
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Now that the Windows 10 Insider Preview supports the one M8 I'm going to give it a shot. Will report back how it all works out etc.
First since the Windows Phone Recovery Tool (2.0.3) now supports it as well. I will take this chance to do a restore on the phone.
Since no RUU are available for T-Mobile M8 and the tool has a firmware package available I'm going to let it flash over the device. If i can locate the downloaded firmware if its in any usable .nbh file that would help everybody else. I like to believe many bugs can be caused by a bad flash and since there's no RUU you can't necessarily rule some out.
Issues that are not on articles that I've read.
A lot of UI inconsistencies. App images on the start screen and the apps list are blurry depending on the app. Wasted space, a lot of the UI isn't scaled properly.
The start sceen has the option to go with the old school layour. Two Regular Square tiles across or Three across. Well it stays at three across no matter which one you pick. I tried removing all tiles just to see if they would reset a cache or registry somewhere and allow the two across layout. That caused me to loose the start screen entirely. Power the device off or on i will only see the all Apps list and the start button takes you to the list.
The Store Beta app appears to be just a link in the start start screen if unpinned you will lose it. While the regular App store in the apps list takes you to the WP8.1 app store.
To get my Google account synced up I have to do it via the Peoples app or Outlook Mail. There is no option to add a Google account or anything of that nature in the Settings app.
The nav bar is ALWAYS there. Some UI elements will remain under it similar to the same bug on WP8.1
All the bing apps are just links to the install page in the Beta Store. The Music Preview, Video Preview apps are also just links to the Beta store. Once you install them the link becomes the actual app, but you lose that path to the Beta store if you unpinned it from the start screen.
If copying something to/from the device. If the display times out and transfer is interrupted.
The brightness slider if you simply tap to jump around the level the actual brightness will not change. You'll have to slide it. I've always found WP levels to be too high. So i had to slide it from 100 and progress slowly for the changes to take affect.
So download an HTC 8X RUU and removed the RUU_SIGNED and UEFI_signed 8X files and replacing them with the M8 files that the Windows Phone recovery Tool downloaded. The RUU.exe was able to recognize my device and the new files. The phone is currently being reflashed with those .nbh files.
Update: The RUU.exe from the 8X RUU worked. Similar flash like the Windows Phone Recovery Tool.
Used the Windows Insider app to enable W10 updates. Waiting for the updates to appear.
I was prompted for a WP8.1 update, then was presented with this after the install.
Edit* Got prompted for W10 update. Screen shot included
On windows 10. First thing, the proportions on everything seems off. I'm all for smaller text since first things i do on android is lower the dpi. It just doesn't look right.
Going to do a factory reset, just to erase any lingering user data that might cause issues.
Couldn't take screen shots.
What I did to get up to this point.
Using the Windows Phone Recovery Tool (and tested the RUU I uploaded) I made sure no stock updates came through.
Installed the Windows Insider app, which then got prompted for an update.
Once the first update was installed I ran the Windows Insider App again, The phone was automatically rebooted
Windows 10 update came up and installed.
Now performing a factory reset to have a clean Windows 10 to work with.
Keep up the good work! did the factory reset fix your DPI issues? Im an android m8 user, but if it were ever possible, I would install windows 10... always willing to try new stuff out
OP updated. Will spend the night out and see how it all goes down. It'll also give me a chance to test out how GPS and the new Maps app perform as well as Bluetooth.
Hope you're having luck with Windows 10. I just downgraded mine because I couldn't stand the amount of crashes that were consistently happening. You'd think the first thing they'd look into would be making sure the people app and contact related software worked before involving people in a beta test. I could understand bugs but I literally couldn't open the people app, and if I tried to search for a contact, the search would close. Its not even close to being a daily driver OS yet.
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Hope you're having luck with Windows 10. I just downgraded mine because I couldn't stand the amount of crashes that were consistently happening. You'd think the first thing they'd look into would be making sure the people app and contact related software worked before involving people in a beta test. I could understand bugs but I literally couldn't open the people app, and if I tried to search for a contact, the search would close. Its not even close to being a daily driver OS yet.
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People app works fine on this end. I made sure to do a factory reset after the upgrade to W10 was done. Granted it is still technically an OS in beta there are an outstanding amount of issues for a build of 10080. What I've seen they have only just merged the underlying code from the Desktop branch. The universal apps have been touched up around the corners to make them work on smartphones, but user end of the experience is still a mess.
Some of the other things i've noticed.
Some apps continue to use a white or black colored font even when I change the theme. The Music Preview app for example. The text color remains white even after you switch to the light theme. So youre literally looking at a white screen playing music unless you switch back to the dark theme.
When attaching anything to a message if you chose to browse for your picture/video from the "This Device" or "Removal Disk D (sdcard)". When you go to actually select the picture nothing will happen. The picture wont get selected. Youll have to use the Photos option to use the separate app which most people will do anyways.
Text a contact whose number isn't in your Outlook contacts will remain as just a number even after syncing Google contacts which has the same saved. Threads where kept separate from each other with the Google Contact details in one thread and the other just the number. Only after saving the number to my Outlook account and linking both contacts (Google & Outlook) where the threads combined.
Maps turn by turn navigation will blend into any music you have playing. Compared to Google Maps which it would lower any audio being played and loudly tell you directions. The Maps app however will just keep all outgoing audio the same volume.
I had my fun on Windows 10 for over a week (closer to two weeks really). So much stuff messed up in day-to-day usage that I had to dial back to 8.1 for now.
I am on Verizon, the restore tool DOES NOT WORK on the Verizon version of the phone (Package not found error)! You must use ACDU and flash the rom yourself to go back to Windows 8.1!
On the bright side, even backups on Windows 10 are restoring on Windows 8.1.
The issues I experienced (almost all I believe to have have reported to Microsoft):
DPI issues and the option to change it being nonfunctional. (mentioned above because you'd have to be blind not to notice it right off the bat lol)
Dot View case is completely non-functional, although app still appears in Settings.
Changing theme from black to white and back again sometimes results in theme staying white on settings screen, but turning back to black on rest of setup.
Alarms do not migrate over to new alarm app in Windows 8.1, but old alarms will still go off(randomly)!
Emails notifications that were listed in the Action Center before migration do not disappear from Action Center after migration, they listed as a random registry value and must be cleared.
Count down timer will crash randomly when changing the hour
NBCNews app crashes on startup
Outlook will not migrate multiple Google accounts correctly. I had to remove both of my Google accounts (one for personal, one for work) and then readd them to get both of them to function. Also, Outlook cannot setup multiple accounts with different notification icons.
Adding accounts to Outlook is a pain in the ass (mentioned above)
Phone icon appears twice in apps list.
Phone randomly locks up after alarm, toast notification, or even incoming call goes off. You must eject the sim card to get the phone to reboot to access the phone again because the touch sensor will stop responding.
When trying to open attachments from Outlook, Project Spartan will open and give and error instead (with PDFs and Excel files anyway).
When browsing with Internet Explorer, if you try to use built in Bing, it will switch to Project Spartan.
Rendering issue with IE's address bar.
Project Spartan has so many issues, I won't even bother to list them all. Lots of issues with tabs and using the back button. Rendering is a huge improvement over IE, but the UI is a huge step back IMO.
When going back to the Start Screen after an extended length of time, the Start Screen must thaw. This phone has 2GBs of ram for Pete's sake! I don't expect it to behave like my Lumia 635!
Wi-fi switch in Wifi menu doesn't appear to have a red outline around it, only a switch.
Cortana no longer shows local news (I really liked that feature!)
Probably other issues, but I think I remembered most of them! I don't recommend trying this current build at all for ANYONE with an M8!
*edit* For anyone who wants to flash the Verizon rom on, the link to the rom is here. I have additional info on the process here along with a video.
Error 0xFFFFFE70
Tachi91 said:
So download an HTC 8X RUU and removed the RUU_SIGNED and UEFI_signed 8X files and replacing them with the M8 files that the Windows Phone recovery Tool downloaded. The RUU.exe was able to recognize my device and the new files. The phone is currently being reflashed with those .nbh files.
Update: The RUU.exe from the 8X RUU worked. Similar flash like the Windows Phone Recovery Tool.
Used the Windows Insider app to enable W10 updates. Waiting for the updates to appear.
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Hi. I bought HTC One M8 for Windows mobile (T-Mobile US version) running WP 8.1 OS few days ago. Whenever I try to log into Microsoft account I get error code 0xFFFFFE70 saying 'We weren't able to activate your phone' with an advice to contact Microsoft support regarding error.
I have searched on-line for this error and have tried everything advised including correcting system date/time settings, soft/hard reset of phone, even reformatting the stock firmware with WDRT (Windows Device Recovery Tool) and also HTC custom tool. Nothing seems to resolve this error so far. Due to this I am unable to use windows store to download apps or log into my one drive on phone etc as each one of these requires Microsoft account login.
I was thinking maybe you can help me by providing me with latest windows 10 preview RUU for HTC M8 (T-Mobile). If you installed it on your M8 via WDRT (Windows Device Recovery Tool) then you can copy it from C:\ProgramData\HTC\Packages\Products (default directory for WDRT). Maybe Windows 10 preview would solve my problem.
how can i do this on the AT&T one?
Interested in upgrading to w10 with my Verizon One... Does it work right? I'm more concerned about going back to w8.1 in case I does not.
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Interested in upgrading to w10 with my Verizon One... Does it work right? I'm more concerned about going back to w8.1 in case I does not.
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My experience with Windows 10 Mobile on the M8, prior to build .420 was more or less unpleasant. Battery drain was more than 8.1 (I even waited atleast 5 charge cycles to see if it changed), the bug after the upgrade caused if you have a passcode lock was still there (which means you have to reboot after the upgrade to be able to login), messaging would crash/hang sometimes, call quality for me was not so great, and sometimes I would get app freezes or other lockups where touch would not respond. I own the AT&T variant and I simply used the Windows Device Recovery tool to reset it back to Windows 8.1.
There is a way though using the interop tools found here on XDA to upgrade to the Redstone build. I have tested it on my Samsung ATIV SE without a sim card and so far so good for 1 day now, and I plan to update my M8 as well. If folks want I could report back how the Redstone build works with the M8?
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My experience with Windows 10 Mobile on the M8, prior to build .420 was more or less unpleasant. Battery drain was more than 8.1 (I even waited atleast 5 charge cycles to see if it changed), the bug after the upgrade caused if you have a passcode lock was still there (which means you have to reboot after the upgrade to be able to login), messaging would crash/hang sometimes, call quality for me was not so great, and sometimes I would get app freezes or other lockups where touch would not respond. I own the AT&T variant and I simply used the Windows Device Recovery tool to reset it back to Windows 8.1.
There is a way though using the interop tools found here on XDA to upgrade to the Redstone build. I have tested it on my Samsung ATIV SE without a sim card and so far so good for 1 day now, and I plan to update my M8 as well. If folks want I could report back how the Redstone build works with the M8?
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Not trying to steal the OP steam at all, but in the event folks would like the info later below here it is:
Today with the Interop Tools installed on M8 with Win10 Mobile Release 1, I edited the registry to read NOKIA as the Manufacturer and RM-1104 which is the global version of the 950, as the Model Name. I then installed the update to 10.0.14372.0.
I had tested this formula on my Samsung ATIV SE with no issues prior...
After the Update: So far I am impressed. The Redstone build 10.0.14372.0 on my AT&T M8 installed just fine. It was a quick install compared to upgrading from 8.1 to 10 release 1. All the apps updated just fine. I edited the registry back to the original manufacturer/model name. Battery drain does not seem to be as much of a problem with this build on my M8, I was at about 67% and it recorded 1day 8hrs remaining from there, but I will check it again in a couple of days. I also have visual voicemail working
The 1 noted issue thus far is the front facing camera (if used) will crash the OS where it is at and cause it to reboot, but for now I can deal without the front facing camera.
nate0 said:
Not trying to steal the OP steam at all, but in the event folks would like the info later below here it is:
Today with the Interop Tools installed on M8 with Win10 Mobile Release 1, I edited the registry to read NOKIA as the Manufacturer and RM-1104 which is the global version of the 950, as the Model Name. I then installed the update to 10.0.14372.0.
I had tested this formula on my Samsung ATIV SE with no issues prior...
After the Update: So far I am impressed. The Redstone build 10.0.14372.0 on my AT&T M8 installed just fine. It was a quick install compared to upgrading from 8.1 to 10 release 1. All the apps updated just fine. I edited the registry back to the original manufacturer/model name. Battery drain does not seem to be as much of a problem with this build on my M8, I was at about 67% and it recorded 1day 8hrs remaining from there, but I will check it again in a couple of days. I also have visual voicemail working
The 1 noted issue thus far is the front facing camera (if used) will crash the OS where it is at and cause it to reboot, but for now I can deal without the front facing camera.
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Just wondering, is there a way to install Windows 10 on a 8.1 device now? They pulled the Insider support, so I was wondering. Thanks!
I no longer have my m8, but I have an Ativ SE from my VZ days. I was able to edit the registry about 2 weeks back on the Ativ to get the anniversary update installed. There are many tutorials for changing the proper keys on this site. It should still work.
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Just wondering, is there a way to install Windows 10 on a 8.1 device now? They pulled the Insider support, so I was wondering. Thanks!
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Hi nar001,
Any luck??? Am also looking for a solution to upgrade my 8.1 Ver HTC M8 ... Any help will be much appreciated...
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Hi nar001,
Any luck??? Am also looking for a solution to upgrade my 8.1 Ver HTC M8 ... Any help will be much appreciated...
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Nope, still nothing. I guess we're dead in the water, sadly.
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Nope, still nothing. I guess we're dead in the water, sadly.
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Hey does anyone tried to flash a RUU file of a Windows 10 Mobile?? Probably somebody must have tried they way Mi4 worked!!! must search for Chinese sites.,,,
Hi !
I see a lot of Lumia 1020 on Ebay and I have a few questions that could help for a decision.
What is working now on this phone? (Email/contacts/calendar synchronisation, SMS/MMS, GPS, camera ...?)
What would happen if we do a factory reset ? Which apps remains?
Thanks in advance.
Hi there.
I own a Nokia Lumia 1020, and I guess it owns me to this day as well. I guess nowadays phones are only going up in prices & looks, just like us - people.
I have to switch from Windows Phone to Android, finally last year - January 2019. I still am not able to forget it's shear awesomeness! I still keep it with me, I have tweaked it around 2017 and managed to run Windows 10 Mobile
It works at a quite basic smartphone level still. I have limited the phone to:
Windows 10 Phone Mobile
Version: 1511
OS build: 10.0.10586.107
Glance Screen: Works - completely.
Groove Music: Works - I listen to songs often.
WiFi: Works (I used Edge browser, Spotify - somehow it works partially)
Outlook Mail: Works.
Contacts: Works (I sometimes am having problem in deleting duplicate contacts, but that's some other issue I guess)
Calendar: Reminds me of Birthdays & Events, never used it more than that.
Telegram: Works
Here Maps, Here Drive: Works great!
Camera/Alarm: Works -just like they used to.
Calculator: Works - but it does not have currency conversion like Windows 10 for PC's have.
Gallery: Works and syncs, as of now.
Camera: Works! But is shi*ty, because it's Windows camera, I managed to skip installing Lumia Camera
SIM/SMS: Used to work, until, I messed up SIM Connector - now waiting to go home and work it out, after Corona lock-down eases in my place.
MMS: Might work, I never used MMS service.
News/Weather: Doesn't work! Open the app, it redirects to Windows Store - Windows Store says app already installed. This is never-ending loop. of sadness.
WhatsApp: It used to work before I went down to Windows Phone 8.1, then I can;t even download it from Windows Store. Looking for XAP file for it, just to read old conversations.
So, it is like - Very basic essential things actually still work.
I am actually looking to Install Android or Windows 10 (PC) or Ubuntu/some Linux.
Also, I have my WhatsApp backup - I don;t know what to do with it, as it is not usable with WhatsApp Android.
Thank you for passing by.
I actually upgraded from Windows Phone 8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile, to use Instagram and other latest app available for Windows 10 Mobile. But since, nothing works now, I am actually thinking of just giving it a factory reset.
It will then come back to Windows 8.1 Mobile (after few updates, if they still work)
Shall I downgrade to Windows 8.1 in Lumia 1020? It might give me access to apps like Lumia Camera, Here Maps,etc. but other apps I don't know.
Shall I downgrade to Windows 8.1 in Lumia 1020? It might give me access to apps like Lumia Camera, Here Maps,etc. but other apps I don't know.[/QUOTE]
That is exactly my question, I would like to reset the phone but I don't know what is working after that, somebody could help maybe? I am ready to loose spotify and vlc but it would not be good if I loose Onedrive with Onenote. I already know that email account exchange is working fine but it seems that onedrive and onenote comes with microsoft account.
You can get the Lumia Camera & Here Maps apps back, on the cost of OneNote.
In this reply, I had written like a whole story that happened when you started this thread. I saved those words away & this is the short version of what I've to say now:
You can get the Lumia Camera, Here Maps app back. That too on either W10M or WP8.1, ofcourse. But you've to compromise OneNote in both working cases.
When I saw your post and replied first, I was running W10M on my Lumia 1020. Right after that, I decided to downgrade to WP8.1, in hope for classic LUMIA experience back. :/
Because, at some point, I lost Lumia Camera, Here apps - because I did a HARD-RESET after upgrading to W10M, which I regret.
So, I used WDRT(Windows Device Recovery Tool) to reset my Lumia to Factory Settings having WP8.1. I got the apps back, they're working great.
Being on WP8.1 was hard for me, because of this unable to sign-in to Store thing. I decided to Upgrade back to W10M again, which I thought was not going to be successful.
But I still gave it a try and Wooohooo! I am now on W10M OS Build: 10.0.10586.107 (beyond this build Here Maps won't work, but OneNote might do)
Basically, in the last week, I managed to downgrade LUMIA 1020 to WP8.1 and back to W10M again, added with Lumia Camera, Here Maps, Here Drive, Glance Screen etc.
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NOTE: Before regretting and doing anything, you can always discuss here, as I suspect that some of apps that you're able to use now might not work afterwards just like OneNote.
so please don't blame me for any un-calculated steps you may take. I am more than willing to discuss things in detail, as much as I can.
~ Thanks
I got mine today with Windows 8.1. As I see it is not a good move to upgrade to Windows 10...
Win 10 on Lumia 1020
Chandigarh: I have Winternals and the other needed tools, but I have a question: When you installed Win 10 on your Lumia 1020, was it in May 2020? Did you follow the procedure in which you basically trick the phone into believing it's a different model using Regedit, or did you find an ISO or other file? I just bought an A-grade 1020 as a test phone to try Win 10 Mobile or other OS.
My main 1020 has a ton of apps, including several camera apps like Lumia Camera, Flat Camera, and others. Like many others, I went to the Store and downloaded a couple dozen apps before the store closed. Thank God I loaded TuneIn radio on it. I have a bunch of cool music sites as Icons, including a Polish Republic station that plays only Pink Floyd, with NO commercials. I won't mess with that phone. So the one I just bought is for play.
How do you like Win 10 Mobile?
John/w3afc
w3afc said:
When you installed Win 10 on your Lumia 1020, was it in May 2020? Did you follow the procedure in which you basically trick the phone into believing it's a different model using Regedit, or did you find an ISO or other file? I just bought an A-grade 1020 as a test phone to try Win 10 Mobile or other OS.
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Yes, John, it was indeed in May 2020. I followed this thread for the procedure : https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/guide-win10-mobile-offline-update-t3527340
NOTE: If you read the procedure in the linked thread with care, you'll find that keyboard might have issues after upgrade (Depends upon region). I had a totally useless keyboard after updating to W10, but I followed further instructions on that and got my keyboard fixed.
NOTES 2 :
- Change your phone's information to Factory default names after you get to Win 10 Mobile Version 1511, OS Build 10.0.10586.107, as Here Maps, Here Drive are not supported after this version.
- Also thanks to MS, if you go for further upgrade build, you'll loose not only Here Maps but Maps from Microsoft won't work either, as maps don't even load due to incapable GPU in Lumia 1020!?
- After upgrade, don't update the Here Maps, Here Drive apps from store. Turn automatic updates OFF Or they'll stop working. I've experienced this earlier.
How do you like Win 10 Mobile?
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I limited my own Lumia to Win 10 Mobile Version 1511, OS Build 10.0.10586.107, so I can use Here Maps and Here Drive. I can access Store and download some rare apps but others cannot be downloaded as it needs latest Windows builds. For Online Music, I use Jio Saavn being from India. It runs ad-free compared to its Android version and serves to most of my music needs, including English songs as well.
In a nutshell, I liked my Lumia 1020, still use it for occasional photography and music. It used to be great until Nokia left & MS stepped in. Still not bad though!
I am actually trying to work on having Win10X installed on Lumia 1020, if it supports it! Fingers-crossed or I'll use it in my future project being a Mechanical Engineer.
Thanks!
I found that last night and it worked!
I loaded all of the files he listed, started the process, and went to bed. This morning I had a Windows 10 Lumia 1020 phone! And the Store works again, although not all apps are compatible or work. I'm glad I loaded a bunch onto my Win 8.1 phone before that store completely closed down.
It's very cool, and I think it's just as fast, but having just spent an hour or so playing with it, I have noticed some annoyances. Battery life does seem to be shorter, but we'll see after some discharge-recharge cycles. This is a refurbished phone, so I'm not sure how new the battery is. I replaced the one in my 8.1 phone several times until I found an actual Nokia one. DANGER WILL ROBINSON: there's an aftermarket battery on Amazon and eBay that claims to have a super long life. It has a white cover. It's crap! I installed one in my Win 8.1 1020, took the phone to the Florida Everglades, and the stupid battery crashed and died. Thank God I took my Pureview 808 as a backup.
Anyway, now I have another new toy to play with during this stupid pandemic. I think I'm going to love this site!
John, w3afc
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Yes, John, it was indeed in May 2020. I followed this thread for the procedure : https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/guide-win10-mobile-offline-update-t3527340
NOTE: If you read the procedure in the linked thread with care, you'll find that keyboard might have issues after upgrade (Depends upon region). I had a totally useless keyboard after updating to W10, but I followed further instructions on that and got my keyboard fixed.
NOTES 2 :
- Change your phone's information to Factory default names after you get to Win 10 Mobile Version 1511, OS Build 10.0.10586.107, as Here Maps, Here Drive are not supported after this version.
- Also thanks to MS, if you go for further upgrade build, you'll loose not only Here Maps but Maps from Microsoft won't work either, as maps don't even load due to incapable GPU in Lumia 1020!?
- After upgrade, don't update the Here Maps, Here Drive apps from store. Turn automatic updates OFF Or they'll stop working. I've experienced this earlier.
I limited my own Lumia to Win 10 Mobile Version 1511, OS Build 10.0.10586.107, so I can use Here Maps and Here Drive. I can access Store and download some rare apps but others cannot be downloaded as it needs latest Windows builds. For Online Music, I use Jio Saavn being from India. It runs ad-free compared to its Android version and serves to most of my music needs, including English songs as well.
In a nutshell, I liked my Lumia 1020, still use it for occasional photography and music. It used to be great until Nokia left & MS stepped in. Still not bad though!
I am actually trying to work on having Win10X installed on Lumia 1020, if it supports it! Fingers-crossed or I'll use it in my future project being a Mechanical Engineer.
Thanks!
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I just found that battery with the white cover on eBay. It's called the BV-5XW. I had it in my phone for less than a week.
w3afc said:
I loaded all of the files he listed, started the process, and went to bed. This morning I had a Windows 10 Lumia 1020 phone! And the Store works again, although not all apps are compatible or work. I'm glad I loaded a bunch onto my Win 8.1 phone before that store completely closed down.
It's very cool, and I think it's just as fast, but having just spent an hour or so playing with it, I have noticed some annoyances. Battery life does seem to be shorter, but we'll see after some discharge-recharge cycles. This is a refurbished phone, so I'm not sure how new the battery is. I replaced the one in my 8.1 phone several times until I found an actual Nokia one. DANGER WILL ROBINSON: there's an aftermarket battery on Amazon and eBay that claims to have a super long life. It has a white cover. It's crap! I installed one in my Win 8.1 1020, took the phone to the Florida Everglades, and the stupid battery crashed and died. Thank God I took my Pureview 808 as a backup.
Anyway, now I have another new toy to play with during this stupid pandemic. I think I'm going to love this site!
John, w3afc
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jis.s said:
Yes, John, it was indeed in May 2020. I followed this thread for the procedure : https://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-10-mobile/guide-win10-mobile-offline-update-t3527340
NOTE: If you read the procedure in the linked thread with care, you'll find that keyboard might have issues after upgrade (Depends upon region). I had a totally useless keyboard after updating to W10, but I followed further instructions on that and got my keyboard fixed.
NOTES 2 :
- Change your phone's information to Factory default names after you get to Win 10 Mobile Version 1511, OS Build 10.0.10586.107, as Here Maps, Here Drive are not supported after this version.
- Also thanks to MS, if you go for further upgrade build, you'll loose not only Here Maps but Maps from Microsoft won't work either, as maps don't even load due to incapable GPU in Lumia 1020!?
- After upgrade, don't update the Here Maps, Here Drive apps from store. Turn automatic updates OFF Or they'll stop working. I've experienced this earlier.
I limited my own Lumia to Win 10 Mobile Version 1511, OS Build 10.0.10586.107, so I can use Here Maps and Here Drive. I can access Store and download some rare apps but others cannot be downloaded as it needs latest Windows builds. For Online Music, I use Jio Saavn being from India. It runs ad-free compared to its Android version and serves to most of my music needs, including English songs as well.
In a nutshell, I liked my Lumia 1020, still use it for occasional photography and music. It used to be great until Nokia left & MS stepped in. Still not bad though!
I am actually trying to work on having Win10X installed on Lumia 1020, if it supports it! Fingers-crossed or I'll use it in my future project being a Mechanical Engineer.
Thanks!
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OK, something crazy happened. I turned off Windows update but I mistakenly downloaded a couple maps for offline use for HERE Drive, and suddenly DRIVE didn't work. I got the canned "Not supported by this version of Windows" message. So I connected my phone back to my PC and decided to re-do the install that Hikari created, but it received another error message. And now WDRT wouldn't work with my phone, despite my rebooting efforts.
So I did a hard reset, and Windows 10 came back - BUT IT AN OLDER VERSION called LUMIA Windows 10, version 1451. The first one was 1551 (latest good version).
Here are some screenshots. The phone is MUCH faster on Windows 10. Even my wife agrees to that. And the Store works for a lot of apps, plus all the ones I owned downloaded to Lumia Windows 10 1451, and they work great.
Except ONE - Messaging. All the settings for SMS and MMS settings are there, but there's no app, and the one that my 8.1 phone has says it's not compatible with this version of Windows Mobile.
Does anyone have a workaround, like a 3rd party app?
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OK, something crazy happened. I turned off Windows update but I mistakenly downloaded a couple maps for offline use for HERE Drive, and suddenly DRIVE didn't work. I got the canned "Not supported by this version of Windows" message. So I connected my phone back to my PC and decided to re-do the install that Hikari created, but it received another error message. And now WDRT wouldn't work with my phone, despite my rebooting efforts.
So I did a hard reset, and Windows 10 came back - BUT IT AN OLDER VERSION called LUMIA Windows 10, version 1451. The first one was 1551 (latest good version).
Here are some screenshots. The phone is MUCH faster on Windows 10. Even my wife agrees to that. And the Store works for a lot of apps, plus all the ones I owned downloaded to Lumia Windows 10 1451, and they work great.
Except ONE - Messaging. All the settings for SMS and MMS settings are there, but there's no app, and the one that my 8.1 phone has says it's not compatible with this version of Windows Mobile.
Does anyone have a workaround, like a 3rd party app?
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I attached the wrong picture. Here's the SMS/MMS page. Everything except an APP!
This is probably a "dead thread", but here goes:
I bought TWO Lumia 1020's to play with in order to preserve my Win 8.1 phone. One is a "refurbished" model, and the other is one of those "Made in China" models. The build quality isn't bad, actually.
I've been running 1607 Anniversary on the refurbished one, and 1703 full install on the China model. It's hard to assess the battery life issue because of the differing ages of the phones. My original has an actual Nokia battery, but it's about 2 yrs old. I have no idea how old the refurbished one is, but I would guess that the China model battery is fairly new.
As Steve Litchfield points out in his All About Windows Phone page, 1607 is really all the further one should take the dual-core 1020. 1703 is a "reach". Both versions have access through the store to good turn-by-turn GPS programs, and there are other good apps and stations that you can use to replace MSN Sports and Weather with the 1607 version. If you use Shazam and TuneIn, those will be gone. The replacement for Shazam, Soundhound, has cool features but it isn't as quick to identify music as Shazam.
As soon as I was happy, I changed the registry back to a Lumia 1020 and rested on my laurels. But Microsoft never rests..........
About 20 minutes before the ball came down on New Year's eve, I noticed that I wasn't getting shelled with texts from friends and family members. I glanced down and had a conniption fit - all I saw was a black screen with white gears turning. Microsoft was installing 1703 "on the sly". There was no way it would be finished in time, so I popped out my SIM carrier (yes, while it was running) and popped it back into my Win 8 phone which was off. As soon as the "update" was finished, I checked to see if I had left the phone set to a 640XL, but all Reg entries and the ID said RM-877, Lumia 1020, etc. And a part B of 1703 was scheduled for the upcoming evening.
After playing with the "1703a" version, I was surprised how quick it was - a bit faster than 1607, and MUCH faster than the 1703 "full install".
It looks like the only way to completely eliminate subterfuge by Microsoft is to change the values in the Registry. The keys are easy to find using InterOps. But after I edit them, they go right back to what they were. So today I'm writing a few lines and I'll use the Import function in InterOps to see if that works. If it does, I'll post the text here.
Today, my two Win 10 Lumia 1020's were booted off my office Outlook email account because the phones still have a reference in the Registry that reads WP8. Or at least, that's what Outlook says. Both phones have 1703 installed.
Does anyone know the secret hiding spot in the Registry that refers to "WP8", if it actually exists?
I've combed through the Registry using InterOps to no avail.
Hi !
I have a Lumia 1020 64gb and I saw recently that it is now possible to have a root access with the possibility to install all the applications we want.
Somebody tried with Lumia 1020?
A 64GB 1020? Wow, those are as rare as Unicorns!
I assume you mean while retaining Windows 8.1? With Win 10 you can sideload pretty much everything including Win 8 apps like Shazam and even HERE Drive, but the duo-core processor runs too slow. I'm waiting for someone like Hikari to push Win 11 on a 1020, LOL.
I committed heresy and switched to the 950. The stills are very competitive, and the 950 has 4K video from which you can capture great stills. And the 950's hexacore CPU does a decent job with Win 10 .
Yes, I would like to keep win 8.1.
Yes, it is very rare. I don't want to brick it
It seems that it does not work but if there is a chance to add some apps, it will be very good, I don't want to push win 10 on the 1020.
I have the 950, but it is very disappointing. I have a 808 pureview, the 950 is not as good as these 2 phones for photographies. And It miss a processor a little bit more powerful to read a 1080p mkv video, so for multimedia I prefer an android phone or tablet.
I still have my 808 and my N8, but it's getting hard to find good batteries for the 808. I took my 808 to Waikiki in 2014 and took spectacular pictures with it. And I used it as a backup for my 1020 when the aftermarket battery that I had installed in my 1020 crashed and burned, 3 weeks after I installed it.
You could buy a cheap 32GB 1020 on eBay and experiment with that. I bought a couple, including a new Chinese-made one for $60.