Hello, this might not be the newest thing, but it can be something bothering and inconvenient. In fact, when you have some very large games such as Real Racing 2and GTA Vice City that requires external data (about 1 or 2GB), you certainly don't want to save it on the internal storage. And unlike the regular app data that you can back up to the external SD card with Titanium backup, you can not back up to the external data to the SD card. Therefore, you need some apps such as Directory bind and GL to SD that bind the directory of the external data in the internal sd to the external one. BUT there are common issues with th these apps for me. In fact, I found that these apps are not actually binding the directory of the data to the new one, but they are just copying them to a new place while leaving the original one in the original place. Therefore, when I deleted the original data and relaunch the game, it doesn't run since I think that the game still relies on the data in the old location that I deleted instead of those in the new one. Here are the links to the pages in which the issues which Directory Bind and GL TO SD will be explained in detail
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39383603#post39383603) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39383533#post39383533). So, did I do anything wrong or do i need to follow any specific instruction to do it right or do you have any recommendations for the alternative apps that do the same task better. Any suggestion would be helpful.
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I have the same problem with DirectoryBind not moving files. It merely copies it, like in your situation. GL to SD won't work on my Optimus S with CM9/stock CM9 kernel.
Check this thread on FolderMount out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39178981
I am actually trying to get to 10 posts to pm the FM dev, because I have the same problem of not being able to MOVE /data subdirectories from internal to external (FM only does /data subs, not /data itself). I can't move ANY directories, regardless of whether it's a /data sub or otherwise, only copy. You may have better luck with your setup.
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Miche454 said:
I have the same problem with DirectoryBind not moving files. It merely copies it, like in your situation. GL to SD won't work on my Optimus S with CM9/stock CM9 kernel.
Check this thread on FolderMount out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39178981
I am actually trying to get to 10 posts to pm the FM dev, because I have the same problem of not being able to MOVE /data subdirectories from internal to external (FM only does /data subs, not /data itself). I can't move ANY directories, regardless of whether it's a /data sub or otherwise, only copy. You may have better luck with your setup.
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I think carbon backup can be helpful for you, download link
If i am not wrong the dilemma here is about completly moving data to sd card not backing up data
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AbhimanyuAryan said:
If i am not wrong the dilemma here is about completly moving data to sd card not backing up data
I hate my X and love my Next.......... Conditions apply*
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Yes, this is correct.
I have yet to find a way to actually move /data or its subs. FM was the closest hit, since the dev states it allows for movement of /data subdirectories. However, until I can PM the dev/post in Dev threads, it will not work on my setup. Not sure why, as other posters have stated they were able to move /data/[xxx]. Directorybind does the same thing as FM, but will not move /data, although I have not scanned the ~180 page thread to see if it will move subs.
How about reversing the storage........ U can make external(64 gb) as internal and internal(16gb) as ext. Have look at this, i think i tried to help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796:)
I hate my X and love my Next.......... Conditions apply*
Mmm, you're right, same problem arises, plus it couldn't even let you set up more then 3 directories.
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How about reversing the storage........ U can make external(64 gb) as internal and internal(16gb) as ext. Have look at this, i think i tried to help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796:)
I hate my X and love my Next.......... Conditions apply*
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I will take a look at this thread after I get out of this meeting--thank you for the link.
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How about reversing the storage........ U can make external(64 gb) as internal and internal(16gb) as ext. Have look at this, i think i tried to help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796:)
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I perused the thread, but it appears the app is for Sammy rom only. If I've made a mistake, please let me know. Otherwise, I will keep searching...and searching.
Yup u r right
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How about reversing the storage........ U can make external(64 gb) as internal and internal(16gb) as ext. Have look at this, i think i tried to help u: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036796:)
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Exactly, I used same solution. External sd card I have mounted as internal, Just change it in void.fstab, you need to have your phone rooted.
eddie-lu said:
Exactly, I used same solution. External sd card I have mounted as internal, Just change it in void.fstab, you need to have your phone rooted.
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Have you seen evidence this app will work with a non-Sammy rom?
Yes, I would like to do that.
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The internal memory in the G2x is treated as an SD card in many apps (because it's mounted on stock at /mnt/sdcard). This can pose a problem with applications that store lots of data. Users have large external micro SD cards for this purpose, but many applications just blindly choose to install to /mnt/sdcard. The user has no option of saving to the external card.
Has anyone figured out a way to 'fool' applications into thinking the "External SD" card is actually at /mnt/sdcard?
As an example, if each file system supported symlinks, the amazon mp3 player app could be fooled by:
ln -s /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD/amazonmp3 /mnt/sdcard/amazonmp3
Of course, this won't work when working with SD cards, as they use FAT partitioning which does not support symlinks.
Anyone mess with this and have a 'suggested' way to 'fool' apps into using the external SD card for more storage?
Edit: I have tried swapping mount locations of the two cards in /etc/vold.fstab. This worked, kinda. USB storage mode just hangs when enabled and the computer sees a drive it can't read (and asks you to format it).
Ive been trying to figure out a solution for this since I got my G2x, cause I just have too many gameloft games LOL
Came up w/ the same syslink idea but FAT doesnt support such a simple idea. We can link between an EXT and FAT, but not FAT to FAT, it seems.
This probably requires edits to the kernel init files for a true solution
The vold method would work if there were edits to the kernel, so you had half the solution. Ran into the same mounting bug. Wonder if one if those dual mount apps would work. hmmm
Cm7 fixes this.
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Cm7 fixes this.
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I noticed this when I ran CM7 for a while. If I remember correctly, it mounts the internal to /mnt/emmc and external to /mnt/sdcard.
Unfortunately, there are a few issues that CM7 has that prevent me from keeping it as my daily driver OS (bluetooth issues, worse camera app, slow to no GPS locking, G2/3/4 data does not enable after wifi disconnect, and a few more). As it matures it could become the solution for me.
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zimphishmonger said:
Ive been trying to figure out a solution for this since I got my G2x, cause I just have too many gameloft games LOL
Came up w/ the same syslink idea but FAT doesnt support such a simple idea. We can link between an EXT and FAT, but not FAT to FAT, it seems.
This probably requires edits to the kernel init files for a true solution
The vold method would work if there were edits to the kernel, so you had half the solution. Ran into the same mounting bug. Wonder if one if those dual mount apps would work. hmmm
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Thanks for the info. At least I now know there is not a simple solution that was escaping me
Why not, then, just reformat the microSD card to a file system that supports symlinks? Backup your data off it first, of course lol.
Can you do that? Will it still be treated as an internal SD card then (for example, able to be accessed via USB on my computer)?
I did some reading about partitioning both the external and internal SD cards to ext3/4, but people didn't seem to have a "flawless" experience. This wasn't specific to the G2x however.
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I noticed this when I ran CM7 for a while. If I remember correctly, it mounts the internal to /mnt/emmc and external to /mnt/sdcard.
Unfortunately, there are a few issues that CM7 has that prevent me from keeping it as my daily driver OS (bluetooth issues, worse camera app, slow to no GPS locking, G2/3/4 data does not enable after wifi disconnect, and a few more). As it matures it could become the solution for me.
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I'll be more specific. There was a fix for CM7 users to reverse the roles of internal and external storage somewhere in the monster CM7 threads. You could try this fix in reverse to the ROM of your choice. Just search the CM7 thread for information on how to swap internal for external. May or may not work.
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I'll be more specific. There was a fix for CM7 users to reverse the roles of internal and external storage somewhere in the monster CM7 threads. You could try this fix in reverse to the ROM of your choice. Just search the CM7 thread for information on how to swap internal for external. May or may not work.
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Thanks,
I decided that the lack of being able to do this on stock was enough to go to CM7 again. The issues I described before are less annoying (to me) than not being able to save stuff to my external SD. Plus CM7 will always be getting updated as well.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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Why not, then, just reformat the microSD card to a file system that supports symlinks? Backup your data off it first, of course lol.
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Cause I still mount to a Win7 machine sometimes
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Cause I still mount to a Win7 machine sometimes
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I used to use this with XP.
http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
Haven't tried it with Windows 7. Maybe I'll do that tonight lol. There are some other standalone utilities for windows 7 that let you access ext2/3 file systems but I like this one because it lets windows access them as native file systems so you can access them through windows explorer, etc.
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Can you do that? Will it still be treated as an internal SD card then (for example, able to be accessed via USB on my computer)?
I did some reading about partitioning both the external and internal SD cards to ext3/4, but people didn't seem to have a "flawless" experience. This wasn't specific to the G2x however.
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I'll do some experimenting around. Not really sure.
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ok so i looked in the forums and from the looks of it cm9 n cm10 and all other roms cant or wont make a work arounf for the inability to move app to the ext sd card i read that their someone making some kind of script but i am an idiot and cant understand but i do know how to read and follow instructions, but i dont see how one can apply these work around for the ext sd card fix unless their is a fix in the works and im jus being impaitent, i know people may think 4gb is alot but the fact this tablet can handle big gaming app it takes up alot of space fast. if have a memory card only for only multimedia, it kind of defeat android purpose for innovation when it was the only phone capable of putting apps on a ext sd card, any advise would be appreciated thanks..
here the link to some attempt to fix this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014
I'm rooted, and downloaded GLtoSD (GL2SD) from the market.
It's a 1-2-3 app. Install the app, download the contents of the game/app, load gl2sd, open the menu, click move app, then select the app you want to move, if it's able to be moved it can be. I love it.
I looked into other apps, and other solutions, and this one was the least complex of them all. Sorry I do not have a link handy, I been drinking a bit lol
Been in your boat though, and wanted to help. Give it a shot!
Try (directory bind) their is a thread for it in the forum
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Gt-8013, 16gb white. So I've had my note since the end of September and have not really used it much till recently. Downloading large games/apps and coming to realize that I can't move ANYTHING to the SD card what a shame. Now before people just comment and say why didn't you buy a 32gb I thought that I could move the apps to the SD card and managing storage wouldn't be a problem. How wrong was I. So my first thread and I'm asking what have you guys done to solve this annoying problem no matter how easy or hard the method was.Yes, I've searched the threads and I've read a lot of options but I just feel like none of them are Noob friendly.
TIL : What was the easiest method for you to move apps to your SD card?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Gt-8013, 16gb white. So I've had my note since the end of September and have not really used it much till recently. Downloading large games/apps and coming to realize that I can't move ANYTHING to the SD card what a shame. Now before people just comment and say why didn't you buy a 32gb I thought that I could move the apps to the SD card and managing storage wouldn't be a problem. How wrong was I. So my first thread and I'm asking what have you guys done to solve this annoying problem no matter how easy or hard the method was.Yes, I've searched the threads and I've read a lot of options but I just feel like none of them are Noob friendly.
TIL : What was the easiest method for you to move apps to your SD card?
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Check my thread (one on my signature). Haven't been able to get it working for every android device yet, but it works great for anything with data/media, which includes the note 10.1 Essentially my script makes all apps (and apps only) get installed straight in the external SD. One warning: the process is more advanced than just flashing something in recovery, though not too advanced that You won't be able to do if you follow instructions.
Personally I use directory bind, this requires root. Directory bind will allow you to specify exactly which folders you want to redirect to sd. I currently redirect all my game data to sd, leave plenty of room on internal storage.
The other bonus, since my game data is on sd if I have to wipe I won't have to download all those gigs of data again.
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I dont know why more developers dont give you the option to store large data on the external card. Bards Tale came out and initially stored all data internal (3-4Gb), couple of updates later and it gives you the option to store externally so more developers need to cotton on to this and sort their apps out !
i use zedomax's apps2sd script to swap storage
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Check my thread (one on my signature). Haven't been able to get it working for every android device yet, but it works great for anything with data/media, which includes the note 10.1 Essentially my script makes all apps (and apps only) get installed straight in the external SD. One warning: the process is more advanced than just flashing something in recovery, though not too advanced that You won't be able to do if you follow instructions.
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Will do so, I take it that i have to be rooted for me to apply your script. (sorry for the noob question)
Also, like to thank everyone for help/answers. I wouldn't be able to do half the stuff with out this community. :good:
What should I do to put the game files on sdcard insted of inside memory? Because all games install on internal memory, and I want to change that because I have a really fast micro sd card. Will simple going from /sd1/Android/obb/*files* to /sd2/Android/obb/*files* work?
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What should I do to put the game files on sdcard insted of inside memory? Because all games install on internal memory, and I want to change that because I have a really fast micro sd card. Will simple going from /sd1/Android/obb/*files* to /sd2/Android/obb/*files* work?
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No you can't use your micro sd this way. You need to go down the data2sd route if you want to use your sdcard. Read the data2sd thread in Dev. You'll need to partition your card into a fat 32 and ext4 partition to make it happen and I warn you now it will be more maintenance than you may wish for.
I think this might be a pirating-related question -- I have the answer but I am a bit hesitant to give it for I'd be helping to rip off developers.
(For the smarty-pants under you: I acknowledge there are legitimate reasons for wanting to do this (ShadowLea and I have participated in related topics before) -- I had them too -- but I am just not sure enough in this case.)
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I think this might be a pirating-related question -- I have the answer but I am a bit hesitant to give it for I'd be helping to rip off developers.
(For the smarty-pants under you: I acknowledge there are legitimate reasons for wanting to do this (ShadowLea and I have participated in related topics before) -- I had them too -- but I am just not sure enough in this case.)
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I do not pirate. I have games like Gangstar 4 and I bought them. But we may talk on Real Racing 3 example. It's free and it uses heavy graphics. I have no control where .obb files or simply the data goes. And sbdags answer is good enough for me. Thank you.
Seems like the only downfall of this phone is the lack of an external SD card slot. Is any one oiy there working on an app similar to link to SD but utilizing a micro USB.card reader like the Meenova? What about a script that would swap the internal memory with the externally mounted micro SD reader? Anybody?
How about connecting our brain by spinal cord lol.... Yes there are some otg device which can help you as a external storage and no need of swap internal memory since moto G is best working at this moment
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All solutions are for media only none of them provide app apk or app data support. I have been scouring the internet for days. There is no way as of yet to implement link2sd, app2sd, data2sd support for within app usage. But thanks for your sarcastic remark!
joeatheist said:
All solutions are for media only none of them provide app apk or app data support. I have been scouring the internet for days. There is no way as of yet to implement link2sd, app2sd, data2sd support for within app usage. But thanks for your sarcastic remark!
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There are apps to link apps to external sd (both apk and data) via otg. You can do it manually via busybox+mount -bind or all automatic via some apps that are in this forum (I swear they are in moto-g/general, so give it a try). If I see the link again I will come back and link it to you, but I remember at least two apps available in the play store to do it.
you can try folder mount or directory bind for moving big data games to usb otg
I wouldn't see a problem with mounting your external sd card wherever you want in the filesystem.
However I would suggest to just mount the external sd card to /sdcard
Filling the 8gb with apps seems pretty impossible to me. Data stored by the app is stored in /sdcard, so that's where you actually would need more space.
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Seems like the only downfall of this phone is the lack of an external SD card slot. Is any one oiy there working on an app similar to link to SD but utilizing a micro USB.card reader like the Meenova? What about a script that would swap the internal memory with the externally mounted micro SD reader? Anybody?
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Just out of curiosity, which apps do you plan to install that require more than 12.5 gb?? I do agree though that the space restriction makes it difficult to keep multiple cwm backups..
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Just out of curiosity, which apps do you plan to install that require more than 12.5 gb?? I do agree though that the space restriction makes it difficult to keep multiple cwm backups..
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Multiple CWM backups are always annoying, no matter if you have sd card or not.
This thread on the other hand makes no sense, there are apps that do the job out there, but if you can't mange your space, then probably you ain't for Nexus-like device.
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Multiple CWM backups are always annoying, no matter if you have sd card or not.
This thread on the other hand makes no sense, there are apps that do the job out there, but if you can't mange your space, then probably you ain't for Nexus-like device.
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Well i like to keep a couple of backups while moving from rom to rom.. but not an option on this device!
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I was wondering if it's possible do something like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046178