[Q] Quick (probably stupid) question BEFORE unlocking - Asus Transformer TF700

I just got my TF700 today. I am prepping for REALLY long airline flights and bought this setup for the battery life so I purchased the keyboard attachment for the added battery life. It came stock with JB (can't remember the firmware #) but I was able to downgrade to firmware .30 via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925230 then rooted via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588. Playing with it tonight has angered me enough to know that I want to unlock and install a new ROM. I am aware that I cannot use NVFlash because of the .30+ firmware which angers me even more...almost to the point of returning the tablet.
On to the point:
All of the unlocking guides for the TF700 say the process is for ICS which I am running with the .30 (right?) Will the fact that I reverted from JB to ICS adversely affect the unlocking process using the methods available?
Should just return the tablet (and keyboard) and get another setup?

lowriderdog37 said:
I just got my TF700 today. I am prepping for REALLY long airline flights and bought this setup for the battery life so I purchased the keyboard attachment for the added battery life. It came stock with JB (can't remember the firmware #) but I was able to downgrade to firmware .30 via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925230 then rooted via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588. Playing with it tonight has angered me enough to know that I want to unlock and install a new ROM. I am aware that I cannot use NVFlash because of the .30+ firmware which angers me even more...almost to the point of returning the tablet.
On to the point:
All of the unlocking guides for the TF700 say the process is for ICS which I am running with the .30 (right?) Will the fact that I reverted from JB to ICS adversely affect the unlocking process using the methods available?
Should just return the tablet (and keyboard) and get another setup?
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Unlocking works in either ICS or JB so no problem there.
If it's possible to return the tab for an ICS .21 or .26 version that would good as far as NVFlash is concerned.
Otherwise just unlock and do the custom ROM flash of your choice.
Hope all goes well either way...and welcome to the board!

Go ahead and unlock. You will be fine. As long as you are carefull and follow instructions you shouldn't run into a problem that would require nvflash to restore
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laod said:
Go ahead and unlock. You will be fine. As long as you are carefull and follow instructions you shouldn't run into a problem that would require nvflash to restore
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Just want to remind you of one thing, I also unlocked mine works fine, and yes it was smoother, but a few weeks ago, my tf700 was suddenly broken, did no reboot anymore.
So there goes my 700 euro tablet because with the unlock I don't have any warrenty.

Zuran said:
Just want to remind you of one thing, I also unlocked mine works fine, and yes it was smoother, but a few weeks ago, my tf700 was suddenly broken, did no reboot anymore.
So there goes my 700 euro tablet because with the unlock I don't have any warrenty.
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No way to tell if your problem was related to the unlock procedure -- so I cannot refute that point of view, either -- but the changes are slim at best. Lots of follks -- myself included -- have unlocked succesfully and have enjyed a custom ROM since then.

Thats OK said:
Unlocking works in either ICS or JB so no problem there.
If it's possible to return the tab for an ICS .21 or .26 version that would good as far as NVFlash is concerned.
Otherwise just unlock and do the custom ROM flash of your choice.
Hope all goes well either way...and welcome to the board!
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All of the research I have been doing has said that .30 changed the bootloader and you cannot go back from that.

lowriderdog37 said:
All of the research I have been doing has said that .30 changed the bootloader and you cannot go back from that.
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Ah,
I meant could you return the tablet to where you had bought it in hopes of obtaining a .26 versioned tablet.
True NVFlash is a no go with ICS version .30 and higher.
Apologies for the confusion.

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PLEASE HELP!! :S Bricked?

I installed the new jelly Bean ROM for the tf300, forced it really with a forum in the general section, everything was working fine except i had lost my recovery.
I tried installing the recovery back on but i couldent, then i tried wipe user data waited a long time for that but nothing happened so i rebooted and now it is stuck at the Asus logo and i cant access the boot loader!! please im desperate! hope its not totally messed up.
I did EXACTLY the same. You are ****ed no way to fix it. I will be sending my tf300 for RMA later this day.
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I did EXACTLY the same. You are ****ed no way to fix it. I will be sending my tf300 for RMA later this day.
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Let us know how that goes - rumor has it that Asus doesn't service tablets with unlocked motherboards. So they'll throw your board in the trash, place in a new one, then charge you for it.
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Let us know how that goes - rumor has it that Asus doesn't service tablets with unlocked motherboards. So they'll throw your board in the trash, place in a new one, then charge you for it.
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what about locked tablets but w/ rooted w/ SU installed? any rumors that they wouldn't service it? I think I should be fine. My JB update is causing tons of Gapps force closings, must have been a corrupt update. Sending it in since I want to keep the BL/warranty intact
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what about locked tablets but w/ rooted w/ SU installed? any rumors that they wouldn't service it? I think I should be fine. My JB update is causing tons of Gapps force closings, must have been a corrupt update. Sending it in since I want to keep the BL/warranty intact
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If your bootloader is intact, your warranty is completely intact. I think there are ways to force the unit to flash stock firmwares.
If you have your root, check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
Method 2 worked for me going back to 9.4.3.30/ICS, then I was able to go to JB afterwards. Bootloader unlock NOT required.
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If your bootloader is intact, your warranty is completely intact. I think there are ways to force the unit to flash stock firmwares.
If you have your root, check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
Method 2 worked for me going back to 9.4.3.30/ICS, then I was able to go to JB afterwards. Bootloader unlock NOT required.
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oh nice! I may need to try this. I assume you were unrooted when you tried Method 2. curious, why did you have to go back to .30/ICS before going to JB? and did the JB OTA update come down again for you or you had to try that workaround method?
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oh nice! I may need to try this. I assume you were unrooted when you tried Method 2. curious, why did you have to go back to .30/ICS before going to JB? and did the JB OTA update come down again for you or you had to try that workaround method?
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The JB update script will fail when it tries to patch APK's that you removed. I removed a bunch to de-bloat, so you need a 100% complete stock 9.4.3.30 ICS before the JB update from Asus will work.
I was rooted and unlocked, so I couldn't use the traditional method -- I used a modified zip file that I flashed through TWRP.
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The JB update script will fail when it tries to patch APK's that you removed. I removed a bunch to de-bloat, so you need a 100% complete stock 9.4.3.30 ICS before the JB update from Asus will work.
I was rooted and unlocked, so I couldn't use the traditional method -- I used a modified zip file that I flashed through TWRP.
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thanks for the info
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thanks for the info
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Couple other things -- you will lose TWRP or CWMR upon flashing, attempting to flash one* will brick your unit.
Make sure you back up your root with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and SuperSU (not Superuser) -- there's a couple threads about this floating around. I was following this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840504
* - they are currently working on making a new JB-compatible recovery after a bunch of us bricked our tablets
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Couple other things -- you will lose TWRP or CWMR upon flashing, attempting to flash one* will brick your unit.
Make sure you back up your root with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and SuperSU (not Superuser) -- there's a couple threads about this floating around. I was following this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840504
* - they are currently working on making a new JB-compatible recovery after a bunch of us bricked our tablets
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I read that about the custom recoveries since they need to be JB compatible. looks like TWRP is on the case. My instance, I kept my bootloader intact and wanted to keep it still like that just in case I screwed it up like cracking the screen. I've only had it for a few months. That's why I may have to try the Wolf method for rooted users w/ locked bootloaders. I just need to verify thru ADB that I still have root after I upgraded or try the unrooted method to go back to ICS.
Just read that link closely and I def did not have SuperSU installed only Voodoo OTA RK, guess I'm no longer rooted after the update then. I should have waited a few days before I updated and scoured the forums. oh well, I'm just hoping to get a working tablet back. I can only get to the "Welcome" setup screen on JB and immediately get gapps force closes, popping up one after the other. Def a corrupt flash.
How is the rma thing have u gotten word back? I bricked mine upgrading to jb. The fast boot USB method errors and locks up the unit.
So I opened an RMA ticket and am sending my tablet in a day... my boot loader is unlocked as well.
Happened to me too. I'm hoping that ASUS will fix it for a reasonable price. Otherwise I'm just going to get a Nexus 7.

Rooting Newest Firmware Update?

Hey all, just got my TF700 on Friday. So stoked.
I am about to root my tablet, but I want to make sure the current tools with work (sparkym3 and Debugfs) with the newest update. I would rather root the latest release than root what I have and use Voodoo. I have had issues doing that in the past.
My current firmware is IML74K.US_epad-9-4-5.26-20120720
How many update as I away from current? Will the current tools work with the most recent updates? Which method do you guys recommend?
Thanks!
I have not been able to get those two methods to work for me on the newest update. I think I am a rare exception, most seem to have success. I have even returned a tablet becuase of defect and the second would not root either. It wasnt a big deal because i knew i was going to unlock the bootloader and then i could install a custom recovery and rom and achieve root that way. If you are planning on unlocking I suggest you do a little more research in the NVFlash page because if you update from your current firmware that will no longer be an option. Just my 2 cents
(Imo) i would just root what you have now and use voodoo. Checkout the nvflash thread while your at it. ( doesn't work with .30 update, i wish i had noticed that before i upgraded to .30 )
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I know it was mentioned but just for good measure... If you plan on unlocking at all make sure you do it before upgrading to .30 so that you can get nvflash setup for your device.
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Is .30 the next update? How many update am I away from current?
I have some thinking to do, I wasn't planning on unlocking (at least until CM and AOKP officially support the TF700) but if NvFlash won't work on any other updates I may need to rethink.
And to be honest, I don't really see the purpose in unlocking. I ROMed my TF101 but ASUS does such a good job of only altering AOSP with small (and beneficial) changes I may just leave my Infinity as is. Especially if I have to stick with the shipped firmware and once I update NvFlash won't work. I guess I can always just flash ROMs without NvFlash though...
But my two questions above still stand.
One more question as this is the first device I have owned that had NvFlash available. What is the benefit of having NvFlash vs just CWM? Just protection in case I do something really stupid?
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You are one update away from the latest which is .30. (soon to be two) The debugfs root method will root you.
you should check out my thread on root and jellybean: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908304
Nvflash allows you to flash anything even if the bootloader is corrupted or prevents it, it also allows you to downgrade when the bootloader prevents it e.g. .30 to .26. it is also required to flash custom bootloaders which is useful if someone develops a dual-boot bootloader. You can even relock and reunlock your bootloader with nvflash. If you don't plan on using non-stock fw though, stay locked so that you can get your updates and support.
Thanks for the help guys.
So what I'm thinking is just to root, unlock, and NOT flash NvFlash. It isn't terribly dangerous not to use right? I mean as long as I have CWM installed I am pretty safe unless I do something completely stupid right?
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I_EAT_BABIES said:
Thanks for the help guys.
So what I'm thinking is just to root, unlock, and NOT flash NvFlash. It isn't terribly dangerous not to use right? I mean as long as I have CWM installed I am pretty safe unless I do something completely stupid right?
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If you have .26 and are going to unlock, you may as well create your nvflash files. It isn't so much as flashing nvflash. Nvflash is already hardcoded in the tegra chip. You would just be creating the encrypted files needed to utilize it on your device. You save these in triplicate in case the worst happens. Unlocking is necessary for generating the nvflash files, but it voids your warranty and leaves you unable to recieve OTAs (you can still update manually using methods listed in the development forums).
I'm not explicitly recommending that you unlock, but if you do, it's best to do it on the .26 update, so you can get those nvflash files from your device.
So if I do install NvFlash can I still waiting install official updates from Asus by downloading them from Asus website?
I really want to try Asus's stock Jelly Bean ROM, so anything that removes that as an option is not for me.
Thanks for the clarification.
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you don't install nvflash. you use it to interface with the device's apx mode.
as for the official firmwares, you can still install those even if you are unlocked. you just have to do it manually.
Yup, you can just download the firmware zip from asus's website:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#download
Unzip it once(it'l be another zip) and flash that in TWRP. (not sure if it works in cwm. I am biased but I definately recommend twrp:angel Make sure you uncheck flash recovery. reinstall recovery using fastboot because the update deletes it.
I_EAT_BABIES said:
So if I do install NvFlash can I still waiting install official updates from Asus by downloading them from Asus website?
I really want to try Asus's stock Jelly Bean ROM, so anything that removes that as an option is not for me.
Thanks for the clarification.
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No, you need to unlock to take a bootloader backup, which you will not able to take OTA Jelly Been, however, you can download the new Jelly Bean from Asus website and manually flash it.
OK I feel like I understand now. There really aren't any downsides to setting up NvFlash (Asus warranty not an issue, I have Best Buy's super program where I can return the tablet even if I just scratch the screen if I want to).
My initial impression was that if I unlocked I would not be able to update any stock firmware period, and that if I set up NvFlash I could not move from .26.
If I understand correctly I just have to be on .26 to set up NvFlash, and can manually install official Asus firmware after unlocking.
Thanks for the help all! I am not new to flashing ROMs etc. but have never had the ability to use NvFlash.
Have a great night all!

just got my TFT700T

Hello everyone
I am a galaxy note2 owner. Read great reviews on this so I chose this instead of Note 10.1.
Anything I should know before I root it?
Is it just like rooting my Note? Just use odin and a costume firmware?
toofank said:
Hello everyone
I am a galaxy note2 owner. Read great reviews on this so I chose this instead of Note 10.1.
Anything I should know before I root it?
Is it just like rooting my Note? Just use odin and a costume firmware?
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You only can root while you on ICS version .30 or below. Once upgraded to JB there's a different procedure to obtain root. Here is the guide. If you have any question, just ask here. BTW tf700 is not same as galaxy note 2. NO ODIN for tf700.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
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You only can root while you on ICS version .30 or below. Once upgraded to JB there's a different procedure to obtain root. Here is the guide. If you have any question, just ask here. BTW tf700 is not same as galaxy note 2. NO ODIN for tf700.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
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Thanks. My asus is still on ics. Im gonna root it then upgrade to jellybean cuz ics is laggy! So to be sure here,I use the link to root then i can install cwm,then flash a costume rom like cleanrom straight from rooted ics, even if the costumerom is jellybean?
toofank said:
Thanks. My asus is still on ics. Im gonna root it then upgrade to jellybean cuz ics is laggy! So to be sure here,I use the link to root then i can install cwm,then flash a costume rom like cleanrom straight from rooted ics, even if the costumerom is jellybean?
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After rooted on ICS, you need to download OTA rootkeeper from the market to preserve root (keep a copy of root), then use dlpkg method (incremental upgrade) to JB. If you use Asus full JB firmware, it's going to wipe out your root. Once you on JB, use OTA root keeper to restore root, then you need to unlock your device before you can install custom recovery (TWRP/CWM). From here on you can flash any custom rom that you like. I highly recommend TWRP, it works well with tf700. Some people do have issue with CWM.
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After rooted on ICS, you need to download OTA rootkeeper from the market to preserve root (keep a copy of root), then use dlpkg method (incremental upgrade) to JB. If you use Asus full JB firmware, it's going to wipe out your root. Once you on JB, use OTA root keeper to restore root, then you need to unlock your device before you can install custom recovery (TWRP/CWM). From here on you can flash any custom rom that you like. I highly recommend TWRP, it works well with tf700. Some people do have issue with CWM.
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Ok thank you very much for the info.
toofank said:
Thanks. My asus is still on ics. Im gonna root it then upgrade to jellybean cuz ics is laggy! So to be sure here,I use the link to root then i can install cwm,then flash a costume rom like cleanrom straight from rooted ics, even if the costumerom is jellybean?
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To install a custom recovery you need to unlock your device, which will void your warranty. If,after unlocking, you want to have a way to recover from any software-induced brick situations, then BEFORE YOU UPGRADE, read the nvflash thread and get the required files from your device. You cannot do this once you upgraded!
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To install a custom recovery you need to unlock your device, which will void your warranty. If,after unlocking, you want to have a way to recover from any software-induced brick situations, then BEFORE YOU UPGRADE, read the nvflash thread and get the required files from your device. You cannot do this once you upgraded!
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thanks. ill do that.
Welcome to our little company. I have the same Combination as you have. You will soon notice that this is hard to get as fluid as the note 2.
Also rooting not that easy. I am still with stock with this one.
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CandyAndy said:
Welcome to our little company. I have the same Combination as you have. You will soon notice that this is hard to get as fluid as the note 2.
Also rooting not that easy. I am still with stock with this one.
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You have to take a shot at rooting and unlocking, without them, I won't able to use my tf700, my kids actually refused to use it. After Cleanrom, they love it!
Needed to update superuser to get root.
But now it wont unlock!
Wjhen i click the unlock device it gives me some network error!
It seems that asus server wont let me unlock.
I keep getting the message in screenshot.
Ive manually downloaded the stock jb zipfile from asus site. How can I flash it to my device? Idont have cwmrecovery.
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It seems that asus server wont let me unlock.
I keep getting the message in screenshot.
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I can take a few days or weeks for new devices to become unlockable - apparently Asus' unlocking server is always behind. Usually it helps to be patient and try again after a few days.
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Ive manually downloaded the stock jb zipfile from asus site. How can I flash it to my device? Idont have cwmrecovery.
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You can do that by unpacking the UpdateLauncher zip once (another zip is inside) and putting it onto a microSD card, then boot the tablet in recovery mode (hold down Volume-down while powering on). Some guides say that you must rename the zip to something specific, I don't know if that is still true. Beware: if you upgrade, you will lose the ability to ever use nvflash because the new bootloader is more locked down and can't be downgraded. Also you will lose root by flashing a complete firmware.
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I can take a few days or weeks for new devices to become unlockable - apparently Asus' unlocking server is always behind. Usually it helps to be patient and try again after a few days.
You can do that by unpacking the UpdateLauncher zip once (another zip is inside) and putting it onto a microSD card, then boot the tablet in recovery mode (hold down Volume-down while powering on). Some guides say that you must rename the zip to something specific, I don't know if that is still true. Beware: if you upgrade, you will lose the ability to ever use nvflash because the new bootloader is more locked down and can't be downgraded. Also you will lose root by flashing a complete firmware.
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Thanks. Ill just wait for the asus server to work then. I hope it doest take longer then a month
Came from the Prime to the Infinity and was hoping this device was smoother/faster and it seems to be even worse. Should I give up on Asus giving us good software? It's just frustrating having an S3 being so fast and smooth being a high end device and also having 4.1.1. Why the hell can't Asus get it right too?
Should I just unlock and get a custom rom on this? Is that the only way to get this tablet to be fast and smooth?
Sorry to butt in someones thread, but...Got my Infinity today at 11 AM.... Updated to JB, rooted, installed Titanium and all goodies.
Do not feel that it's any slower than Google Nexus 10.1 in no way. Ever screen, it's a less resolution per spec does not look any different.
Happy with it, great tab.
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Came from the Prime to the Infinity and was hoping this device was smoother/faster and it seems to be even worse. Should I give up on Asus giving us good software? It's just frustrating having an S3 being so fast and smooth being a high end device and also having 4.1.1. Why the hell can't Asus get it right too?
Should I just unlock and get a custom rom on this? Is that the only way to get this tablet to be fast and smooth?
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Yes, if you want your device to be fast and smooth you definitly need to unlock and install Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel. Without them I probably throw mine in the trash.
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Yes, if you want your device to be fast and smooth you definitly need to unlock and install Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel. Without them I probably throw mine in the trash.
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its really stupid that you loose your warranty if u wanna unlovck and install cleanrom.
not that the unlock works anyways! ..
Im not happy with it at all!
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its really stupid that you loose your warranty if u wanna unlovck and install cleanrom.
not that the unlock works anyways! ..
Im not happy with it at all!
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Don't we all? but we just have to move on...otherwise we still sitting in the dark!
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Don't we all? but we just have to move on...otherwise we still sitting in the dark!
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I encountered a similar issue with another tab. I moved on from there to the TF700 only to relive the same experience. Next time I will do my research before buying another tab. I paid for the tab and I want to have complete control to 'abuse' it!

Custom ROM close to stock but not lagy as stock??

I've only had my TF700 for less then a week and I know already like my Galaxy S2&S3 I'm going to be rooting and installing a custom ROM on my TF700, strange that I didn't feel this way with my old Nexus 7 but man this TF700 is sweet but suffers from lag at times to where I need to do the Power/volume Down cleanout at least once a day and that helps but not enough...
As with my Galaxy S3 I don't want the newest wildest ROM rather one that is close to stock as possible YET is faster, cleaner and doesn't bog down... The double and triple taps to accomplish tasks or while browsing is driving me crazy already, I am totally surprised by this seeing this is the top of the line tablet and as good or better then the iPad hardware/processor wise..
So any suggestions and/or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!! Now I'm off to start reading up on unlock and root procedures
PS: I am believe my TF700 is up to date (Running Stock JB ver. 4.1.1)...
CleanROM inheritance
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CleanROM inheritance
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Interesting sdbags in the little reading up I have done that does seem to be the most logical choice.. Reminds me of KyanROM I'm running on my GS3, well other then one is ICS and the other is JB lol... But both look to be stripped down/slightly jacked up stock ROMS, I always find these types have practically little conflicts with apps and include more customazation without taking a battery hit, speaking of lol.. Are you running CleanROM now and has your battery life increased or decreased?? Obviously that isn't as important with the Tablets(you won't miss calls if you get in trouble battery wise with a Tab). Also is there any Lag with CleanROM?? It is my biggest gripe and THE reason I'm looking to Root and Flash
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Interesting sdbags in the little reading up I have done that does seem to be the most logical choice.. Reminds me of KyanROM I'm running on my GS3, well other then one is ICS and the other is JB lol... But both look to be stripped down/slightly jacked up stock ROMS, I always find these types have practically little conflicts with apps and include more customazation without taking a battery hit, speaking of lol.. Are you running CleanROM now and has your battery life increased or decreased?? Obviously that isn't as important with the Tablets(you won't miss calls if you get in trouble battery wise with a Tab). Also is there any Lag with CleanROM?? It is my biggest gripe and THE reason I'm looking to Root and Flash
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Pretty sure SBDags is running a version of CleanROM
Do a bit more reading up on the ROM development work for the Infinity.
You'll most likely be very happy stepping away from a stock ROM tablet and going with a custom version.
Captpt said:
Interesting sdbags in the little reading up I have done that does seem to be the most logical choice.. Reminds me of KyanROM I'm running on my GS3, well other then one is ICS and the other is JB lol... But both look to be stripped down/slightly jacked up stock ROMS, I always find these types have practically little conflicts with apps and include more customazation without taking a battery hit, speaking of lol.. Are you running CleanROM now and has your battery life increased or decreased?? Obviously that isn't as important with the Tablets(you won't miss calls if you get in trouble battery wise with a Tab). Also is there any Lag with CleanROM?? It is my biggest gripe and THE reason I'm looking to Root and Flash
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It can hardly be argues that sbdags is impartial in the matter -- I'm sure you are aware he is the developer of CROMI?
That being said, CROMI is one hell of a kick-*** ROM, and I'm currently running it myself -- it's VERY good in all regards, be it battery life or performance and fluidity. A lot of that depends on the kernel you use it with -- Clemsyn's 650 versions are really good candidates.
A little bit of the lag is still there, admittedly, but that's hardware-related and no developer can remedy that. CleanROM saved the 700 for a lot of users, and CROMI takes that a step further. Props to sbdags, obviously!
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It can hardly be argues that sbdags is impartial in the matter -- I'm sure you are aware he is the developer of CROMI?
That being said, CROMI is one hell of a kick-*** ROM, and I'm currently running it myself -- it's VERY good in all regards, be it battery life or performance and fluidity. A lot of that depends on the kernel you use it with -- Clemsyn's 650 versions are really good candidates.
A little bit of the lag is still there, admittedly, but that's hardware-related and no developer can remedy that. CleanROM saved the 700 for a lot of users, and CROMI takes that a step further. Props to sbdags, obviously!
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I actually didn't realize SBDags was the Dev for CleanROM lol... Seems to be a very popular ROM indeed!!
Haven't had much time to read up on unlocking and rooting yet but I'm seeing what version OS I have is quite important to how to root, I have JB 4.1.1 and I understand rooting and unlocking is different then those who had ICS..
Thank you for the Kernel/ROM combination suggestion, haven't had to deal with that much with my GS3 but with my old GS2 getting the Kernel/ROM Combo right was pretty tricky, sometimes different modems had to also be flashed to get it right..
Well after some reading here it looks a bit more complicated then I imagined to root and flash my TF700 compared to my phones...
is this correct:
First I need to get ICS Version for my TF700 off Asus site, put it on a microcard and flash back to ICS..
Then unlock, root and install RootLock.
Then update to JB.
Check and make sure my Root is still intact.
Finally install CleanROM..
CORRECT??
Captpt said:
First I need to get ICS Version for my TF700 off Asus site, put it on a microcard and flash back to ICS..
Then unlock, root and install RootLock.
Then update to JB.
Check and make sure my Root is still intact.
Finally install CleanROM..
CORRECT??
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If you plan to unlock anyway, you can take a shortcut: Unlock, flash TWRP via fastboot from your PC, install CleanROM.
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If you plan to unlock anyway, you can take a shortcut: Unlock, flash TWRP via fastboot from your PC, install CleanROM.
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Thanks for the reply _that, so I can use TWRP after unlocking my 4.1.1 without backpedaling to ICS and it will root and install recovery for flashing different ROMs, kernels and such?? Damn that sounds too easy lol..
Captpt said:
Thanks for the reply _that, so I can use TWRP after unlocking my 4.1.1 without backpedaling to ICS and it will root and install recovery for flashing different ROMs, kernels and such?? Damn that sounds too easy lol..
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TWRP _is_ a recovery for flashing stuff, and CleanROM is pre-rooted, so you don't need to root it. And if you decide to install a non-rooted ROM, you can still use TWRP to flash a Superuser app from a zip to get root.
_that said:
TWRP _is_ a recovery for flashing stuff, and CleanROM is pre-rooted, so you don't need to root it. And if you decide to install a non-rooted ROM, you can still use TWRP to flash a Superuser app from a zip to get root.
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Nice, first dumb question of the day lol.... Don't I need to be unlocked AND Rooted to install any custom recovery program??? I see you said CleanROM is already pre-rooted BUT obviously I have to install the recovery program first and thought(and in my research read) that my TF700 needs to be rooted before installing a recovery program such as Team Win's Recovery??
Thank you again _that, your help is greatly appreciated!!
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Nice, first dumb question of the day lol.... Don't I need to be unlocked AND Rooted to install any custom recovery program???
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No, just unlocked. fastboot does not care about root, it works from the bootloader.
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No, just unlocked. fastboot does not care about root, it works from the bootloader.
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Great...
Now finding the unlock apk for TF700T with jelly bean 4.1.1 is not a easy find, Asus download site seems to be down and everywhere I look the only version I find is "UnLock_Device_App_V7.apk" with disclaimers of only for ICS OS not JB 4.1.1...
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Great...
Now finding the unlock apk for TF700T with jelly bean 4.1.1 is not a easy find, Asus download site seems to be down and everywhere I look the only version I find is "UnLock_Device_App_V7.apk" with disclaimers of only for ICS OS not JB 4.1.1...
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For the unlock tool click here
Captpt said:
Great...
Now finding the unlock apk for TF700T with jelly bean 4.1.1 is not a easy find, Asus download site seems to be down and everywhere I look the only version I find is "UnLock_Device_App_V7.apk" with disclaimers of only for ICS OS not JB 4.1.1...
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Thats OK said:
For the unlock tool click here
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The tool Thats_OK pointed you toward is probably the same as you found, and the same as for the TF201 Prime and TF300T. I guess ASUS like KISS principles, hehe. It should work for JB as wel, IF you get some cooperation from the ASUS unlock server side. Apparently a lot of people have had trouble unlocking due to their device's serial number not being in the database. That's probably the biggest hurdle to overcome in the process.
MartyHulskemper said:
The tool Thats_OK pointed you toward is probably the same as you found, and the same as for the TF201 Prime and TF300T. I guess ASUS like KISS principles, hehe. It should work for JB as wel, IF you get some cooperation from the ASUS unlock server side. Apparently a lot of people have had trouble unlocking due to their device's serial number not being in the database. That's probably the biggest hurdle to overcome in the process.
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I did realize that was the same Unlock download that was being listed as the one being disclaimed as for ICS only... honestly not sure what I'm going to do, don't think I'm willing to roll the dice on a Unlock attempt that may screw up my TF700 AND void my warranty...
Maybe I should just starting reading up on how to roll back to ICS and take it from there,
hard to believe a Unlock download hasn't been created yet seeing how many TF700t's are now on Jelly Bean 4.1.1?
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I did realize that was the same Unlock download that was being listed as the one being disclaimed as for ICS only... honestly not sure what I'm going to do, don't think I'm willing to roll the dice on a Unlock attempt that may screw up my TF700 AND void my warranty...
Maybe I should just starting reading up on how to roll back to ICS and take it from there,
hard to believe a Unlock download hasn't been created yet seeing how many TF700t's are now on Jelly Bean 4.1.1?
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Unlock process is very safe, its either works or not working. Most ppl bricked due to flash a wrong recovery or bootloader etc...but not unlocking.
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Unlock process is very safe, its either works or not working. Most ppl bricked due to flash a wrong recovery or bootloader etc...but not unlocking.
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Thank you, that's nice to know but have to say after doing some reading Adb\fastboot is looking much more complicated then methods I've used on my phones... second thoughts are creeping in lol...
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Captpt said:
Thank you, that's nice to know but have to say after doing some reading Adb\fastboot is looking much more complicated then methods I've used on my phones... second thoughts are creeping in lol...
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adb/fastboot is nothing but a few .exe command. All you have to do is download Android SDK on your PC and install it like other software. During the install, just select Android packages (there are many in the option), should be only 2. After that there is a script (its a .bat file) to install custom recovery. This script will kick off adb and fastboot command so you automatically, all you have to do is double click on the script while connects your device to your pc. Once you have custom recovery, you home free.
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adb/fastboot is nothing but a few .exe command. All you have to do is download Android SDK on your PC and instaco it like other software. During the install, just select Android packages (there are many in the option), should be only 2. After that there is a script (its a .bat file) to install custom recovery. This script will kick off adb and fastboot command so you automatically, all you have to do is double click on the script while connects your device to your pc. Once you have custom recovery, you home free.
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Thanks buhohitr, having second thoughts now about unlocking now( too much $$ invested in tablet, keyboard and cases to blow warranty off ) and contemplating rolling back to ICS, ROOTING, using Rootlock then flashing CleanROM... probably same amount of steps plus warranty is still intact.. yes?

[Q] That slow or defective???

I love my tf700t but I am also tired of how slow it is. My wife has a Samsung 10.1 note and from off to power up it takes her about 30 sec to get to the desktop and it takes me about 2 minutes. My screen is better than hers of course but loading apps and switching apps is slow and I get apps freezing and the popup asking if I want to wait or kill it.
Wifi is there but not as good as hers. We recently went on vacation and I installed copilot nav software 1.3g on both tablets. Hers was done in about 30 minutes and mine took about 4 hours.
Very frustrating. I have an extended warranty on it and I can either take it back to see if they can do something with it or I can ditch the warranty and flash it and hope that will improve the situation.
I know that most people here say that flashing really makes a big difference but does it seem that mine is a bit too slow to be normal???
Thanks
Paul
ps. I have done a factory reset and cleaned it off. I have about 90 apps installed but not all running of course
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I love my tf700t but I am also tired of how slow it is. My wife has a Samsung 10.1 note and from off to power up it takes her about 30 sec to get to the desktop and it takes me about 2 minutes. My screen is better than hers of course but loading apps and switching apps is slow and I get apps freezing and the popup asking if I want to wait or kill it.
Wifi is there but not as good as hers. We recently went on vacation and I installed copilot nav software 1.3g on both tablets. Hers was done in about 30 minutes and mine took about 4 hours.
Very frustrating. I have an extended warranty on it and I can either take it back to see if they can do something with it or I can ditch the warranty and flash it and hope that will improve the situation.
I know that most people here say that flashing really makes a big difference but does it seem that mine is a bit too slow to be normal???
Thanks
Paul
ps. I have done a factory reset and cleaned it off. I have about 90 apps installed but not all running of course
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Out of the box, Samsung is smoother and faster than the tf700... The internet on the tf700 is very slow with the stock firmware. It was the reason why I was here in the first place...
Well I guess that answers that question. My Asus warranty has expired but the wife bought an extended one. Will have to check and make sure they don't care about unlocking and rooting. Then maybe I can end my frustration.
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Well I guess that answers that question. My Asus warranty has expired but the wife bought an extended one. Will have to check and make sure they don't care about unlocking and rooting. Then maybe I can end my frustration.
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You are unlocked? Dude - just run CROMI-X on the tablet and you're gonna love it! The TF700 with CROMI-X is probably the best device I ever owned!
It sucks on stock, yes. But with that custom rom this tablet soars!!
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I am not unlocked yet. I don't like the idea of having to use Asus unlock tool and letting them know that I have unlocked the tablet. Just a phobia about nosy companies.
If it doesn't scrweup my extended warranty I will bite the bullet and do it
I was in the same boat (2min + boot, slow and lagging) until I finally got fed up enough to unlock and now can enjoy the tablet again. I've been rooted from the beginning but its been no help fixing the problem. Now it's faster than its ever been and I have both CROMi-X and Cyanogenmod installed for a little variety. I hadn't flashed anything since my OG Droid days but with a little research on XDA and a little trial and error, it was quickly unlocked and running smooth. Best decision I could of made.
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So I guess it's unlock, root, TWRP and then rom of my choice. You say you have CROMi-X and Cyanogenmod. I didn't know you could have two roms installed at the same time???
Just my opinion here but when you unlock and flash custom Roms will make the device faster compared to stock but compared to the note it will still be slower probably...
As long as you don't compare it side by side the TF700 is okay though.
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After reading a bit and being a bit confused I thought I might list what I think I need and see if I am right.
First I am on 10.6.1.14.10 so that seems to limit me on some items, sigh.
First - unlocking using the Asus unlock tool. Is there any other way to unlock??
Second - Root using debugfs. Can this be done with goomanager or am I ahead of myself?
Third - NVFlash tool
Fourth - TWRP with goomanager
Fifth - Rom of my choice
Right or any mistakes??
Thanks
frozenbutt said:
After reading a bit and being a bit confused I thought I might list what I think I need and see if I am right.
First I am on 10.6.1.14.10 so that seems to limit me on some items, sigh.
First - unlocking using the Asus unlock tool. Is there any other way to unlock??
Second - Root using debugfs. Can this be done with goomanager or am I ahead of myself?
Third - NVFlash tool
Fourth - TWRP with goomanager
Fifth - Rom of my choice
Right or any mistakes??
Thanks
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Sorry, but you got some more reading to do.
On the 10.6.1.14.10 firmware you cannot root - at least not with Motochopper. You can downgrade to .8 and use Motochopper or - easier and better - just unlock and use Scott's recovery tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129 to flash TWRP 2.6.1 and a then a custom rom through TWRP.
First: No
Second: See above. You cannot use GooManager to root
Third: NVFlash just became available for TF700 on Jellybean! Leave it for later - it's not necessary to flash a custom rom but if you have your NVFlash blobs, your tablet is unbrickabable! https://www.androidroot.mobi/pages/guides/tegra3-guide-nvflash-jellybean/
Follow this thread and read up on anything you don't understand. This is not for the faint of heart! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455925
Fourth: You need root to use GOOManager to install TWRP, use Scott's tool instead
Fifth: exactly
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Yikes see what I mean. Do this but if you have this version don't do this or you will brick. Glad I asked
So unlock with Asus tool then scott's recovery tool to root. I though at that point you had to use NVFlash before you flashed to a new rom to make sure you had the blobs to have insurance for bricking? I don't mind taking the extra step before flashing a new rom to make sure I don't screw the pooch.
Thanks very much for the info. Back to reading.
Damn I have flashed nearly all the phones I had and never had this much trouble.
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Yikes see what I mean. Do this but if you have this version don't do this or you will brick. Glad I asked
So unlock with Asus tool then scott's recovery tool to root. I though at that point you had to use NVFlash before you flashed to a new rom to make sure you had the blobs to have insurance for bricking? I don't mind taking the extra step before flashing a new rom to make sure I don't screw the pooch.
Thanks very much for the info. Back to reading.
Damn I have flashed nearly all the phones I had and never had this much trouble.
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I would think that you should obtain the NVflash blobs before flashing anything else to ensure that you can go back if you somehow screw up your bootloader... You can fix most things as long as your bootloader is still intacted.. It is just my two cents..
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I would think that you should obtain the NVflash blobs before flashing anything else to ensure that you can go back if you somehow screw up your bootloader... You can fix most things as long as your bootloader is still intacted.. It is just my two cents..
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Agrred. That's the best and most logical way to proceed.
But not the easiest....
Tell ya, I have been flashing this baby for a while now, but the NVFlash procedure gives me sweaty palms
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